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     Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 935 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
I haven't really thought about this word anDi, but it is different from the honorific word garu. anDi is a pronoun which has the following connotations:- hello dear, honey, sir or madam etc. a true translation of annamayya garanDi would be Mr. Annamayya Sir. There are people or cultures who address annamayya garanDi etc., కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 934 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
Thank you very much for the info. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 326 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
good. that fella only plagiarised urdu to create shudh hindi. u know inserting sanskrit words like hasthakshar in place of dasthakath. shudh hindi is farse. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 950 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 125.21.51.18 Rating: N/A |
http://gtoosphere.blogspot.com/2010/07/baverse-bewars-comple te-history-and.html | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 325 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
origin of bewarse is still not known. its typical deccani urdu and cannot be found outside deccani akula katta Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Basky_indya Megastar Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 27992 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166 Rating: N/A |
if you have time, you can visit Houston Nasa etc, San Antonio(sea world etc stuff) , new Braunfels (nearby san antonio) for boating,laking etc, then take the route to hot Austin Barsana dham, Temple(city name) , enroute to Dallas. kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. | ||
| Entikaburlu Comedian Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 1482 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
kshamincheyandi - deergha varaanthaniki New York mahanagaraniki vellamu. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10116 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Yes- but it would depend on which part you are visiting  Houston is good - Space center, Galveston, the Science museum with its Focault's pendulum,Miniature Chinese Forbidden gardens was interesting too San Antonio - Riverwalk , Seaworld, Six Flags,Schlitterbahn waterpark, Fredericksburg wineries Dallas - idea ledu
Meeru question vesi gayab, memu jeedipakam laga lagamu  aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10115 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
I don't think I have ever disputed that. But it has had so many influxes that it is a difficult, almost an impossible task to remove all other influences to restore it to the pure dravidian form you talk about - you will have to compile a dictionary to translate current telugu to pure telugu
Multiple dialects existed though not under the umbrella called Hindi. So I agree,Shuddh hindi did not exist as a language before 1800s and later when Maithili Sharan Gupt and co. started standardising hindi. BTW, Bewarse bypassed Hindi on its way from Urdu to Telugu aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Entikaburlu Comedian Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 1479 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
Thank you Anand and DTS, for a scholarly treatment of a mundane word. In the same vein, could you please throw some light on "andee", "andi" or "andI" - like in - ivvandi, emandI (wife calling husband), rao garandee (garu+andee for ultra double full respect) etc. btw, has Annamayya used garu or andi? have these been added after Annamayya.. | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 933 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
yes, indeed; btw are you based out of texas, if so what are the best places to visit texas? I am planning to visit next week. Thanks in advance. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 324 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
shudh hindi never existed in the past. its a bewarse language  Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 323 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
u and me may be khichdi but linguistically telugu is dravidian  Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 322 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
simple. ultra respect. similar to avargal in tamil. try ur aryan khujli in iran.  Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10114 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Thanks... good discussion aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 932 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
when you have two sawmis as venkateswara and varaha swami varlu. Yes it is plural of plurals just as the word audiences represent set of multiple audiences. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10112 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Makes sense
How do you explain the usage varulu as in swami varulu ? Plural of a plural?
I doubt it - aa usage idivaraku vinnanu kabatte first post vesindi on aryavrat- I only found this link while I was looking to corroborate...But if you are sure that is wrong, we'll leave it at that
Anni kalisi khichdi ayipoyai kada - ippudu shuddh hindi separate chesinattu, dravidian telugu separate chestara cheppandi aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 931 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
was your earlier ID, gulti? ayya is a Telugu work and it has many forms as in ayyaare, ayyayyyo etc. but coming to appa, I feel that it has strong connection with Hebrew word rab (means god) > rabba > abba > appa. In Telugu, though abba means father, appa also means sister. I think akka is derived from appa in Telugu. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 321 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
ayya and appa mean the same in tamil. in telangana and seema appa is used but in different context. commonman tamil prefers appa though. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 930 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
Yeah I know, but that's wrong including the link; Please have them correct it as arya-avarta or aryavarta.
No, the plural of vaaDu is vaanDru => vaaru. We cannot have origin of a word different for that of its plural. vaaDu is authentic Telugu word and so is vaaru or gaaru.
BTW, vaaDu is not a disrespectful word. vaaDu means he in English. as vara and vaaru are different so is their meanings. Interestingly, you can see that vara is also used in Telugu as in kuru-vara, nara-vara (there is a song in telugu). Secondly and most importantly, the honorific form of varaDu is varuDu gaaru. which proves that vara is different from gaaru. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 320 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
i know. chass aryan, sanskrit etc lekunda dravida telugu akula katta nilabadadha? dhaanthalli prathi dhaaniki aryulu, sanskrit, iran, bongu boshanam. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 319 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
i know. chass aryan sanskrit lekunda dravida telugu akula katta nilabadha? dhaanthalli prathi dhaaniki aryulu, sanskrit, iran, bongu boshanam. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 318 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
i know. chass aryan sanskit lekunda dravida telugu akula katta nilabadha? dhaanthalli prathi dhaaniki aryulu, sanskrit, iran, bongu boshanam. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Basky_indya Megastar Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 27989 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166 Rating: N/A |
GARU is neutral gender word. It has not come from any other languages. inshort for gaurava neeyulu ayina. each languages has its own way of intrepretation. like Ji, garu, Avargal etc kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10111 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Meeku telisina etymology cheppandi
 aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10109 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
I said Aryavrata, not Aryavarta
I did not say that either I said Vaaru could have other sources as well
True And is that meaning so different in essence from the honorific vaaru ? And is this not closer in meaning than the disrespectful vaadu or vaarpu ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Basky_indya Megastar Username: Basky_indya Post Number: 27986 Registered: 10-2007 Posted From: 24.127.236.166 Rating: N/A |
Aryans vochara mallli theory loki kRUshITHO nAsthee dURbhikSHAM!! JP_ROCKS: ...der unte enchakka andarni giant wheel ekkistadu..girrr mani oogachu.. | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 14540 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 69.135.178.201 Rating: |
manodu ithe garu anali ..edutodu ithe gadu anali ... Rajanna Amar Hai. | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 929 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
konchem kooDa bhaasha teliyakunDa kEvalam websites nu nammukunTe chaalaa kastam.
dEvavrata and aaryAvarta have two different suffixes they are not related. dEvavrata does not mean one who lives in a place called dEva, whereas aryaaavarta means a place where aryas lived. vrata and varta are two different root words.
But vaaDu is not from varta or vrata, infact both varta and vrata are heavily used in Telugu as well.
No, var is different from vaaru (gaaru) var is derived from Sanskrit word vara (boon) which also means the chosen one (bridegroom) vara aslo means shreshta or the best one. Hence the Sanskrit words, manyavara or aryavara means the best of manya and best of arya respectively. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 944 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 125.21.51.18 Rating: N/A |
Aryan Iyen Ayyan Iyer Iyengar Aiyya Ayya Aiyyangaru Aiyyagaru The Above words and the word 'Garu' could be connected. And from what I have read it seems Aiyya is from aryan Somewhere I read about phonetic switch from 'va' to 'ga' in mid 2nd Millineum So it is possible Garu came from Varu and Varu is from Avaru and I think this is Dravidian origin. How often do the tamils use the word Ayya? | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10105 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
That would negate the parity with Aryavar - and imply that they eveolved separately And I apologise if the flowers quip came out sounding wrong - it was just a joke ...no offense meant
Bhishmudiki inko peru Devavrata - same usage as Aryavrata anukunta
I did - and I do agree there are multiple uses and multiple possible sources too ;)
Yes - by itself the meanings you gave are right - but as a suffix it is used in other ways - e.g manyavar is respectable ... Aryavar uses the suffix similarly aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 928 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
vrata has only one connotation, observing a ritual. If there is such a ritual as arya then arya-vrata would have meant observing the vrata or ritual of arya; so it is out of context. I don't think you have seen my references to the Telugu word vaaDu, whose plural is vaanDru or vaaru or vaaLLu. So vaaru is not derived from varta in any capacity. However, ayya is from arya, going by the usage. Indians commonly address ministers and learned men as arya, as in mantri-varya or amatya-varya etc. So there is a connection here. Hindi var is different, it is derived from Sanskrit word vara or in Telugu varuDu means a bride-groom or a man or bachelor కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 317 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Rowdy Hero Username: Rowdy Post Number: 10499 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 70.122.250.111 Rating: N/A |
hahaha... @chrstianity Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 316 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
It did not. Appa and Ayya are pure dravidian words. Iyyengars are brahmins who migrated to tamilnad from telugunad(dont know around what period) Iyyengar = Ayya + Gaaru. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10102 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Maybe - but the parity of aryavar and ayyavaru is what triggered that thought Conincidence antara ? Implausible anipistundi if we assume ayya came from Arya
Undali ani ledu. Anduke kada vaaru itself root aa, ani adiganu and DTS gave some other uses of the word too aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 7870 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.68.10.73 Rating: N/A |
andy garu..konchem ekkuva alochisthannattu anipinchatam leda?  ilage oka pedhayana Christianity = Krisha neethi Vatican - derived from Vatika ani inka chala cheppadu..manollu vatican lo kashayam janda egaredham anukunnaru anyways, why should every word have root word..if they do..what is the root word of the said root word? garu..gurinchi theliyadu kani..'thamaru' most probably came from 'Thum' | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 33072 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 67.140.245.125 Rating: N/A |
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| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10100 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Vrata has more connotations than just a ritual One of them is being beholden to an oath... We got sidetracked into Aryavrat versus Aryavart- and yesterday I did not have the time to link references to the definitions.Here's my rationale.. Both words can be used to describe people as well - meanings vary with context Aryavrat is someone who is beholden to the Arya dharma.. Aryavrata - observing the laws and ordinances of the Aryans or honourable men http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&beginning=0+&ti nput=aryavrat&trans=Translate&direction=AU And the meaning of Aryavart when describing a person is = resident of Aryavart AryAvarta m. sacred land of the Aryans AryAvarta m. inhabitants of that country http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&beginning=0+&ti nput=aryavart&trans=Translate&direction=AU The first meaning is likely to be the origin of Aryavar - a form of honorific address used in mythology - Aryavar is still sometimes used in Hindi to address Gurus , albeit rarely To my mind, Aryavar and Ayyavaru are too close in syllables and in meaning to be totally independent. That is not to say that because ayya-varu as a compound word is related to arya-var , varu could not have taken a meaning of its own
I don't waste flowers And it does not matter a whit to me which language is the source - just trying to solve a puzzle put in front of me aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 314 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
 Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 927 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
vrata is a different word; it means a ritual. Vaaru is pure telugu word and is plural of vaaDu; vaanDru and vaaLLu are variants. vaaru has another meaning; to drain out as in vanTa vaarpu etc. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Methhanithodugu Hero Username: Methhanithodugu Post Number: 11733 Registered: 12-2008 Posted From: 59.93.69.58 Rating: N/A |
GAyaali RUbabu YSR is to politics what Veerappan is to a forest. NTR lo enno faults unodchu kaani i think he was much more responsible with public money- Sanman >>I am 420 | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10097 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
http://aryahistory.tripod.com/aryanhistory/id14.html Arya-vrat(a) some Arya-vart(a) are both used...not sure which one is completely right... As to parts of speech - do they really remain so sacrosanct as words migrate and evolves? Assuming what I said is wrong - do you think varu has another root in telugu or is it a root word ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 926 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
What???? It's not vrat, but Vart or varta as in aryavarta means a place or region where aryas lived. Where arya means a learned man. varta is a noun derived from a verb whereas varu or garu is a honorific suffix of a noun. They are totally different, not even close to compare. కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 313 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10096 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Dts, So I had It backwards that Garu preceded varu - but you are right the other way round makes more sense as varu propagated further - avaru in Kannada and avargal in Tamil as subzero mentioned... Telengana_gulti, Extrapolating from the above here ... varu <- ayya varu <- arya var <- arya vrat Garu then goes back to Sanskrit vrat kada aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Subzero Side Hero Username: Subzero Post Number: 9408 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 42.104.97.195 Rating: N/A |
avargal ane Tamizh word ninchi vachinattundi One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY | ||
| Telangana_gulti Junior Artist Username: Telangana_gulti Post Number: 312 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 71.204.169.207 Rating: N/A |
I think gaaru is corrupted form of vaaru/avar gaadu is corrupted form of vaadu/avan g and v are interchangeable in telugu in some words. gaaru is pure dravidian in origin. Prime Minister Nehru said in Lok Sabha "I will crush you (chapathi racists)". Syama Prasad Mookerjee replied "We will crush our own balls like chapathis". Lesson#1 - Attack the chapathi racist chaddi party first, not the chapathi non-racist topi party first. Lesson#2 - Even though a typical telugu speaks dravidian telugu language, he has got more of australoid(tribal) features and less of dravida features. Lesson#3 - but what baffles me most is...... dravidian-tongue Telugu maatlaade chaddis ki intha aryan/sanskrit/hindi kujli yendhi vaaa ani. Lesson#4 - Australoid tribals, kothi mooka, hanumans, monkey band telugu rama bakths should not get brainwashed in the middle. | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 925 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: |
I am good, but been very busy. Thanks for asking. I am sure aji is from ajja which is distortion of arya (meaning a learned man). Garu is distortion of varu as in ayyavaru = ayyagaau. It is definitely not from sanskrit word guru (gu = obscurity, ru = remover so guru = remover of obscurity) . కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10094 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
How r u ? Long time no see Hmmm.. not so sure about the root of Ji,thinking it is s distortion of Shri if the writers of TV Mahabharat are to be believed . .. but do you know if there is a root word for Garu in telugu itself ? Just a conjecture but is it distortion of Guru ? aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Dts Junior Artist Username: Dts Post Number: 924 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 78.46.79.86 Rating: N/A |
I agree with you. The word arya can be termed the etymological root for the word ayya. Interestingly, if you see the analogy, (as ya and ja are interchangeable in Sanskrit) arya => ajja which converts to ajji or ji in Hindi Now coming back to Telugu, consider the example, Annama+arya => Annamayya and plural of ayya = ayya+vaaru = ayyavaaru or ayyagaaru. so finally Annamayyagaaru. In Hindi it would become Annama+ajji or Annamaaji కోటిపల్లికి దారడిగి కొండపల్లికి వెళ్తున్నావేమిటి? ...మనసు మార్చుకున్నాను! DTS "The digital experience" | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 10091 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
From what i recall reading, believe it is the other way round... Arya- aiyya Tamil adds n - Arya >-Aryan, Aiyya -> Ayyan Add the respect suffix of garu or varu- thought to be from telugu Ayyagaru -> ayyangar - Iyengar Ayyavaru - > Ayyoru - Iyer And if the migration happened from North to south - it would not be surprising that some language terms also migrated that way irrespective of the age of the languages aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 940 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.108.176 Rating: N/A |
brother, anymore details to this story | ||
| Entikaburlu Comedian Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 1453 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
nijama, comedie na? | ||
| Kindal Comedian Username: Kindal Post Number: 1654 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 122.169.135.224 Rating: |
in 12th century a roman king wanted to know how language was evolved n how people started to communicate with each throw speech. He built a separate house for newly born kids far away from kingdom and they were grown up there. the care takers were strictly instructed to stay silent while staying with children. after few years, guess wat yappened? all those kids died ultimately. For in India, Bhakti or what may be called the path of devotion or hero-worship, plays a part in its politics unequalled in magnitude by the part it plays in the politics of any other country in the world. Bhakti in religion may be a road to the salvation of the soul. But in politics, Bhakti or hero-worship is a sure road to degradation and to eventual dictatorship. | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 7866 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: N/A |
'chettu' ki 'putta' ki etymology enti ante cheppalem kada?..alagey garu ki kooda anukuntunna.. | ||
| Chitti_v2 Comedian Username: Chitti_v2 Post Number: 1536 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 68.37.58.156 Rating: N/A |
okappudu jenaalu ittaa piluchukone vaaranta.....zulesh bangaaru.....ramanesh bangaaru......daantlo bum cutting ayyi gaaru set ayindi......tharvaatha ru koodaa cut ayyi gaa....zulesh gaa...ramanesh gaa annattu......kontha mandi idi koodaa cut sesi jesht peru tho pilusthaaru | ||
| Raman Side Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 2474 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
hehe ayyagaru has become ayyengaar in tamil ani dravidian anti brahmin kurrol sepparu they thing ayyengars and ayyars not tamilians at all . To support this nna inko friend seppadu no brahmin will have native tamil names like muthu or velu | ||
| Entikaburlu Comedian Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 1448 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
naki teleedu. I have a friend in india. when we are in a conf call with americans, we still refer to each other with garu suffix. rest of the sentence will be in english. so, some times they ask. i always wonder where the word came from. It is also realted to "Iyengar". tamil is more ancient than telugu. so, i think it came from tamil. | ||
| Raman Side Hero Username: Raman Post Number: 2473 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4 Rating: N/A |
taman ni adugu gaare gagare ani pata ettadu ante telse untadi | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 3575 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103 Rating: N/A |
something related to gauravaneeyulu ani naa guess ANNA HAZARE nakoduku desaniki jesina droham ento very shortly andariki ardham autundhi - OT | ||
| Zulu Side Hero Username: Zulu Post Number: 7865 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252 Rating: |
edo already gatti ga decide ainattu unnav kada..cheppu  | ||
| Hero Username: Twitter Post Number: 11348 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 151.191.175.206 Rating: N/A |
good question but no answer Lets create a corruption-free India | ||
| Entikaburlu Comedian Username: Entikaburlu Post Number: 1442 Registered: 07-2011 Posted From: 67.247.83.224 Rating: N/A |
anybody know.. |
