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True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7856 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 12.129.87.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 02:22 pm: |
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Emc2:Bro meeru kuda ila chass. aadini melliga time chusi bokkal iraga teeyaka courts case lu..
adini kodite case reverse avutundi, since he filed case, vadini evadu kottina ma uncle ki court lo ittade we tried other options already but since the case is in court, its tough to deal now |
   
Vijay77
Comedian Username: Vijay77
Post Number: 1186 Registered: 06-2010 Posted From: 199.41.197.24
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:54 pm: |
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Uppu:Evaro lo kontha mandi mis use chesarani Law ni tiditarenti. Law unda batte janalu noru control chesukontunnaru. Leka pote all ni darunaga chustaru
Naaku thelisina oka teacher meeda SC/ST attrocities case pettaru friday evening. Ventaney theesuku poyi jail lo pettaru. Bail urgentgaa kudara ledu. Monday public holiday. Tuesday bail vachindi. 3 days jail lo vunnaru. Aa case 5 years nadichindi. Final gaa money vadilinchukovalsi vachindi. Cheyyani thappuku 3 days jail, 5 years mental torture avasaramaa. Ade SC/ST vaadu nijamgaa tittinaa case vundadu, ade vaadu false case pettinaa lopala vesi potharu. Idemi nyayam. |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3360 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:51 pm: |
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Simpletruth:ee paina conditions evi ippudu applicable kadhu.
i am sure everything you said is true. but why make the law specific to a few castes ? all those things are heinous no matter who the victim is. why not just make a law against abuse against citizens. adhi nenu cheppedhi. and the law is loaded with other mindless crap like arrest like trial oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya |
   
Uppu
Side Hero Username: Uppu
Post Number: 3790 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 206.16.32.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:38 pm: |
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ippatiki telangana two glasses system undi ani paper lo vachhindi âGenerations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.â |
   
Uppu
Side Hero Username: Uppu
Post Number: 3789 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 206.16.32.136
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:37 pm: |
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Evaro lo kontha mandi mis use chesarani Law ni tiditarenti. Law unda batte janalu noru control chesukontunnaru. Leka pote all ni darunaga chustaru âGenerations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this walked the earth in flesh and blood.â |
   
Simpletruth
Side Hero Username: Simpletruth
Post Number: 2591 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 69.46.254.75
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:31 pm: |
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Sanman:i) forces a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to drink or eat any inedible or obnoxious substance; (iii) Forcibly removes clothes from the person of a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe or parades him naked or with painted face or body or commits any similar act which is derogatory to human dignity; (viii) institutes false, malicious or vexatious suit or criminal or other legal proceedings against a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe; (xi) assaults or uses force to any woman belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe with intent to dishonor or outrage her modesty; (xii) being in a position to dominate the will of a woman belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe and uses that position to exploit her sexually to which she would not have otherwise agreed; (xiii) corrupts or fouls the water of any spring, reservoir or any other source ordinarily used by members of the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes so as to render it less fit for the purpose for which it is ordinarily used; (xv) forces or causes a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to leave his house, village or other place of residence;
i) mala mootralu taginchevaru intaku mundu 60-70 varuku (iii) nagnam ga chesi vureginchevaru intaku mundu 60-70 varuku (viii) dheeni bg emito teludu (xi) 80 varaku rampant ga vundedhi (xii)80 varaku rampant ga vundedhi (xiii)id ayithe 90 varaku vundedhi (xv) dheeni bg emito teludu ee paina conditions evi ippudu applicable kadhu. previous ga tsundur disco vasthe Ek,TT laki cheppa. ee rojulo oc sc ni kodithe allari. SC oc ni kodithe dikku diwana ledhu. bayataki kanabadadhu. vallu baga argue chesaru how come we dont have incidents of SC bashing OC ani Mahesh: King of TFI in India & USA |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3359 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:03 pm: |
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Rowdy: manchike pettaru ... kani evadu padite vadu evadishtaniki vadu use cheyyadam ...
that is wrong bro. law has to be made keeping all these things in mind. these whimsical laws come into place when parties don't operate according to principles and just interested in vote bank. you can see some sections of that law i posted below. it means oka mindless fellow raasaadu daanni question chese mind adhi vote chesina vaallaki ledhu. everyone is afraid that if they offer corrections they will lose SC ST vote bank oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya |
   
Subzero
Side Hero Username: Subzero
Post Number: 9272 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 112.79.127.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:45 am: |
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Mrhyderabad: Nenu engg kosam hyd vachi room teesukuni vunde time lo
bachpan keinchi Hyd kaada, MrHyd annai One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY |
   
Subzero
Side Hero Username: Subzero
Post Number: 9270 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 112.79.127.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:30 am: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:JP maathram patthithhaa enti? adhedho shop lo pinnulu kottesaaadu, mama daggara katnam theeskunnaaadu.
 One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY |
   
Emc2
Side Hero Username: Emc2
Post Number: 3519 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 199.107.16.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:20 am: |
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True_indian:
Bro meeru kuda ila chass. aadini melliga time chusi bokkal iraga teeyaka courts case lu..
 cherapakura chedevu.
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Mrhyderabad
Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad
Post Number: 9724 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:04 am: |
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True_indian:
Daarunam kadaa... Nenu engg kosam hyd vachi room teesukuni vunde time lo okasari festival ki grand paa village ki vellinnappudu, my old man asked me about my room mate "Mana vaadenaa?"... Naaku shock... room lo join ayi 6 months ayindi... i knew him even before but i never knew his caste.... so light teesuko peddayana ani cheppa... but ilaanti news vinte sometimes it is better to follow old school of thought anipisthundi... but again, ilaante lucha fellows 2-3% vuntaaru emo public lo... vaalla kosam remaining andarini ade angle lo choodatam uncivilized anukuntaa.. Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein |
   
Zulu
Side Hero Username: Zulu
Post Number: 7707 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.253.166.252
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:52 am: |
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Kingaa_bongaa:JP maathram patthithhaa enti? adhedho shop lo pinnulu kottesaaadu, mama daggara katnam theeskunnaaadu.
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Megapowerstar
Side Hero Username: Megapowerstar
Post Number: 3147 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 170.22.76.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:49 am: |
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True_indian:sc/st atrocities law ni mari goram ga misuse chestunnaru one of my dad's friend owns a big shopping complex in hyd, he rented it one guy my dad friend lives in US, recently he visited and asked for rent or vacate if he cant pay, that idiot refused to leave and filed a case saying my dad's friend called him madigoda, so now he is arrested under sc/st atrocities law and he cant come to US till the case is not cleared. that idiot is asking for lot of money to withdraw the case denemma endo india lo e law aina worst ga misuse chestaru
gross mis-use of law. kharma ante |
   
Kingaa_bongaa
Hero Username: Kingaa_bongaa
Post Number: 14001 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.189.128.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:46 am: |
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Jp_rocks:criminal histories unna illiterate/not qualified barre nayallani elect cheskunte inthe....thu deenemma, em desam ra babu
vaadu maa caste memu support chesthaaam, edho oka roju evado okadu nanu atrocity case lo irikinchi jail lo vesinaa sare, nenu maa caste vaadine support chesthaaa. JP maathram patthithhaa enti? adhedho shop lo pinnulu kottesaaadu, mama daggara katnam theeskunnaaadu. Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Kint
Junior Artist Username: Kint
Post Number: 307 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 168.161.192.16
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:45 am: |
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Scallion:ilanti vaatiki okate mandhu elagu case undhi problem undhi... so ipudu oka 4 lakhs navi kadu anukoni ootha kotudu kotinchatame, okasari kadu veelu ayithe rendu saarlu, malli case anataniki bayapadali naa koduku....
Came out in the same way, local SI help tho |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 11780 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 167.83.101.22
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:31 am: |
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Subzero: SC/ST attrocities case lo proof akkarledu. modata arrest sestaar
thu deenemma..ela approve chestaru ilanti laws? criminal histories unna illiterate/not qualified barre nayallani elect cheskunte inthe....thu deenemma, em desam ra babu  |
   
Subzero
Side Hero Username: Subzero
Post Number: 9266 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 112.79.127.71
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:00 am: |
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Jp_rocks:do the arrest someone based on heresay/someone's word?? proof emanna unda?
SC/ST attrocities case lo proof akkarledu. modata arrest sestaar One who wins without problem -- it is just "VICTORY" but one who wins with lot of troubles -- that is "HISTORY |
   
Tenali_rk
Side Hero Username: Tenali_rk
Post Number: 5421 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 96.255.7.218
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 09:05 am: |
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True_indian:
Really sad.....What are the options to get him out....... Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect- Mark Twain |
   
Eluri_kurradu
Hero Username: Eluri_kurradu
Post Number: 13612 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.16.22.169
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 08:41 am: |
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Risingstar:adhi noraa inkemannana?
kondarilaga penta noru alavaatu ledu unnadi unnattu ga cheptam ..topic endi aa kurrodu mattadindendi? I'm not a kurradu  |
   
Risingstar
Megastar Username: Risingstar
Post Number: 24581 Registered: 08-2008 Posted From: 76.99.86.64
Rating:  Votes: 4 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:08 am: |
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Raman:Madigas openly supported TDP in the past .. ante okka TDP ki chendina madigas kuda ilanti case pettada? nuvvemanna MM vaaa mavallu tappu cheyyaru anadaniki?
adhi noraa inkemannana? |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2399 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 173.16.22.169
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 06:51 am: |
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Nagfanscom: I am 100% confident that people who filed the above cases are definitely aligned to the ideology of either Congress or YSR.
nee talakay .. nee tokkalo theries aapu do u support this or oppose this ? Madigas openly supported TDP in the past .. ante okka TDP ki chendina madigas kuda ilanti case pettada? nuvvemanna MM vaaa mavallu tappu cheyyaru anadaniki? |
   
Nagfanscom
Junior Artist Username: Nagfanscom
Post Number: 176 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 115.113.76.194
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 02:53 am: |
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YSR used this law against the people who raised voice against him. Example:AJ I am 100% confident that people who filed the above cases are definitely aligned to the ideology of either Congress or YSR. |
   
Teenmaar
Junior Artist Username: Teenmaar
Post Number: 329 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 75.65.246.129
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:37 am: |
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LOL |
   
Rowdy
Hero Username: Rowdy
Post Number: 10335 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 66.41.97.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:35 am: |
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ee sc/st laws, domestic violence laws ... manchike pettaru ... kani evadu padite vadu evadishtaniki vadu use cheyyadam ... case pedite pettinodu nijam chebtunnada leda ani em chudaru .. ventane velli arrest, case ... anthe ... enni lifes buggipalo telisina oka friend pellam undi ... ikkada vidakulu teeskuni India ki poyi akkada case petti waiting ... eppudu India vastada ani ... asalu mana daggara lawyers kuda alane sacharu Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3357 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:23 am: |
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Raman:time of reckoning for OC kada?
not really. time of reckoning for everyone who doesnt see a link between their life and their vote. it is not like SC STs are benefiting from these policies. the day when an SC speaks as a human not as an SC against these abuses is the day there is hope for India. oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2398 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 12:01 am: |
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bump for siloan and zulu |
   
Raman
Side Hero Username: Raman
Post Number: 2396 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 159.182.1.4
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 11:53 pm: |
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Sanman:
time of reckoning for OC kada? |
   
Sanman
Side Hero Username: Sanman
Post Number: 3356 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 66.177.5.103
Rating:  Votes: 1 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 11:16 pm: |
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this is sad. the two most abused laws are this one and domestic violence law. thala thoka leni vadu evado desaanni uddaristunnaanu anukoni pedthaadu. politicians who cannot think beyond one step. reminder why we should vote for sensible and educated people. not vote based parties and leaders. we feel that law makers are intellectuals but most of them are clueless morons. Look at some of the content from this law. Nobody knows why these are a separate crime for a few castes (i) forces a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to drink or eat any inedible or obnoxious substance; (iii) Forcibly removes clothes from the person of a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe or parades him naked or with painted face or body or commits any similar act which is derogatory to human dignity; (viii) institutes false, malicious or vexatious suit or criminal or other legal proceedings against a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe; (xi) assaults or uses force to any woman belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe with intent to dishonor or outrage her modesty; (xii) being in a position to dominate the will of a woman belonging to a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe and uses that position to exploit her sexually to which she would not have otherwise agreed; (xiii) corrupts or fouls the water of any spring, reservoir or any other source ordinarily used by members of the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes so as to render it less fit for the purpose for which it is ordinarily used; (xv) forces or causes a member of a Scheduled Caste or a Scheduled Tribe to leave his house, village or other place of residence; Please please vote or tell people to vote sensibly. everything boils down to that. i feel bad for that person. practically speaking the only other thing he can do is find some politician from the same caste and settle instead of paying him what he asks. but the goal should to vacate him. andulo matram compromise kakudadhu oka vastuvu ae reethilo undaalo aa vidham gaa undaali - balayya |
   
Scallion
Side Hero Username: Scallion
Post Number: 9282 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 173.46.239.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:56 pm: |
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Jawmetri:so in terms on risk management, better not to deal with any mala or madigas
meeru maree soft ayithe adhi better, kadu mass anukondi nalugu d'tame, epudayina vaadu peekedhi 7 PCT act ee varasaga rendu moodu sarlu tadi padithe debaki line loki vasthadu Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 11779 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 76.29.124.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:56 pm: |
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dad ni chusa, uncle ni chusa ee sc/st goonda nayalla victims..direct ga money adigi tiskunnaru district lo all OC SEs/EEs/DEs daggara....after a lotta discussions, finally andaru muskuni money pogesi valla mokana d'garu eellemma..reservations d'taru, malla parasite mofos la ila sava d'gatam..chasss.. |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 19533 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:54 pm: |
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Jp_rocks: proof emanna unda?
bloody city boys |
   
Scallion
Side Hero Username: Scallion
Post Number: 9281 Registered: 05-2009 Posted From: 173.46.239.244
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:53 pm: |
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True_indian:
ilanti vaatiki okate mandhu elagu case undhi problem undhi... so ipudu oka 4 lakhs navi kadu anukoni ootha kotudu kotinchatame, okasari kadu veelu ayithe rendu saarlu, malli case anataniki bayapadali naa koduku.... last year ilage maa supervisor meedha pedithe, rendo saari police station bayate naalugu peekaru, chivariki case raaji ayindhi Jai NTR, Jai Jai TDP |
   
Jp_rocks
Hero Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 11778 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 76.29.124.182
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:51 pm: |
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True_indian:so now he is arrested under sc/st atrocities law
WTF bro, do the arrest someone based on heresay/someone's word?? proof emanna unda? |
   
Nanigadu
Side Hero Username: Nanigadu
Post Number: 6716 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 173.32.27.61
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:49 pm: |
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True_indian:
Vijayawada lo oka floor motham madi irukku poyi vundi babai ee issue meeda, case nadustundi court, luckily maa nanna godava pettukola, just direct gaa velli court lo case vesaru... ippati nunchi rent kisthey, oka rule pettukovali, avathalodu feel ayina sare, caste kanukko kunda ivva kudadu ani decide ayyaru hope your uncle solves his problems soon Jo Na Janey Haq Ki taaqat Rabb Na Dewey Usko Himmat.
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King143
Comedian Username: King143
Post Number: 1790 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 122.175.15.213
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:43 pm: |
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Ranga:yes, sc/st vollaki rent ki ivvaalante bhayam vesthundi. icchetappudu magigodo, maalodo thelavadu, icchinaaka ranku mogudai koorchuntaadu. fcking law
sc/ st valake kadu avadiki rent ki ekkuva rojulu evakudadu... ade commercial properties ayete asalu evakudadu... |
   
Gandhiguevara
Hero Username: Gandhiguevara
Post Number: 19525 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:40 pm: |
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Saint:ee sari rent kitcheppudu caste certificate tesukuni ivvali annamaata...
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Jawmetri
Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri
Post Number: 915 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.108.176
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:35 pm: |
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so in terms on risk management, better not to deal with any mala or madigas |
   
Saint
Comedian Username: Saint
Post Number: 1232 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 24.4.99.165
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:30 pm: |
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True_indian:
ee sari rent kitcheppudu caste certificate tesukuni ivvali annamaata... I'm not a Saint. |
   
Ranga
Comedian Username: Ranga
Post Number: 1518 Registered: 07-2009 Posted From: 98.81.109.151
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:29 pm: |
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yes, sc/st vollaki rent ki ivvaalante bhayam vesthundi. icchetappudu magigodo, maalodo thelavadu, icchinaaka ranku mogudai koorchuntaadu. fcking law |
   
Rowdy
Hero Username: Rowdy
Post Number: 10327 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 66.41.97.50
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:25 pm: |
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mudanashtapu na kodukulu ... chas Fans are mainly fans of their own fanship rather than the fans of whom they claim to be fans of - RGV |
   
True_indian
Side Hero Username: True_indian
Post Number: 7855 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 75.176.73.14
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 10:19 pm: |
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sc/st atrocities law ni mari goram ga misuse chestunnaru one of my dad's friend owns a big shopping complex in hyd, he rented it one guy my dad friend lives in US, recently he visited and asked for rent or vacate if he cant pay, that idiot refused to leave and filed a case saying my dad's friend called him madigoda, so now he is arrested under sc/st atrocities law and he cant come to US till the case is not cleared. that idiot is asking for lot of money to withdraw the case denemma endo india lo e law aina worst ga misuse chestaru |