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     Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13650 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Kwalling Gatha kurrod.. {dog running icon} | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2726 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
what's that? | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13648 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
vallu diverse aina teliyadu kada..ave kallu (terchi unnayo ..moosi unnayo telvad).. manam diverse ante clear gaa kanipisthadi..Aryan/Dravidian theory maloom ? even otherwise..mana deggara unna antha diversity only African continent lo undi ani seppochu | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2725 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
and I am watching paint dry.  | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2724 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
They were in fact pretty diverse. but the Han chinese completely took over others - brute force. more than anything, their reforms started in the late 70s and ours in mid 90s. that's where we are playing catch up. of course, a totalitarian state also helps in quick decisions - right or wrong. for a new nation like india, centralized planning was absolutely essential. | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13636 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
next idi download aithe..monday commute lo covering seyyali..thx for the info again..
Iraq lo chesindi baaga debba teesindi with media now being all prevalent..and also economically..because it was a full fledged military effort ..and not just a coup funding few localites of course they still managed to show very low casualities on the civilian front..which i read in few other places..as close to a million people.. no wonder ..thurak..desams lo they are loosing respect..because relizion also comes into play ..if you do the same in the middle east | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8733 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
meeru still interested ayithe - John Pliger "The war on democracy" ani inko doc undhi. He detailed how US overthrown democracies in latin american countries and replaced them with washington's puppet dictators to advance its interests.. Noam Chomsky vi kuda unnayi documentaries latin america meeda.. Latin America is where US has first shown its Joker side.. Appatlo manaki media presence ledu kabatti telvaledhu..What they did in Iraq is tried and tested method in Latin America. | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13630 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Thanks for providing details on Oliver Stone's video..found it and watched it.. abbo ..CNN/FOX vaallu oka range lo pulihora kalipinattu unnaru aa time lo ..Thavvez gaadini villian gaa soopinchadaniki enthaina vomerican media rocks.. emi leni sota ni wmd's unnai ani kathalu cheppi oka million mandini lepesaru... aa paapam uttigane podu...naaku telisi | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8732 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.118.197 Rating: N/A |
read as 'As for' | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8731 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.118.197 Rating: N/A |
brother..lets discuss our 5 yr plans and their success/failures in diff thread and on diff day. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8730 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.118.197 Rating: N/A |
Western europe tho comparision aa ..seriously. China ante ok kani mee list lo unna ye country tho comparision set kadu. Manaki independennce ochina 30 yrs lo we fought 3 wars added to that the population. the oomparision with your list of countries is not right. China kuda mana laga hugely diverse country ayyunte, ivala manam unna position lo undeda ani okkosari dounbt osthundi naku appudappudu. As per Chavezism - well i thought cuba will fall in my lifetime but looks like it aint gonna happen.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2730 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
annayya what is the basis to that statement ? 5 year plans are the reason we ended up like pakistan. i agree some slack needs to be cut for mistakes done by leaders in the past. we cannot expect them to be perfect. but comon. this knowledge was not new by that time. IITs nagarjuna sagar ki credit icharu bagane undhi. who are you going to give credit to a million things that did not go right ? corruption, poverty, illiteracy, nation without morale,lack of innovation, fundamental rights limiting to paper, lawlessness, destruction of agricultural sector. give all that credit also http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 297 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
teenage lo communism will definitely have an appeal, as you are raring to go and build a beautiful world.. then you study the world, learn its ways, increase your knowledge and then realize the foolish arrogance in us which made us think we should make the choices for everyone - whether they agree to it or not. all the weak and poor naturally gravitate to the robinhood types, because of the failure of our system to deliver justice swiftly and impartially.. pak and afghan lo it led to talibanism/feudalism, india lo it led to naxalism/ communalism or feudal politicians protecting their turfs with handouts.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 296 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
haha.. same 50 years lo there were many other nations we can compare with: 1. western europe (semi-free) vs eastern europe (soviet 5-year plans) 2. singapore (economically free even if politically not) 3. china was in a worse condition than india in 40s (see how economic reforms 10 yrs before india made the diff) 4. japan's transformation from a war-torn country kaadu pak tho compare chesukuni thrupthi padadam ante.. alaage kaanivvandi.. but do realize that keeping millions in poverty through govt policies is no less tolerable/vicious than physical violence. reg chavezism, i am positively sure that we'll see its downfall in our lifetime itself.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2720 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
right forces dogma down your throat from get go. left evolves into a dogma but is an open slate in the beginning, hence the fascination. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8728 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
exactly ide anukunevanni monnatidaka and then i happened to come across these latin american countries where they moved from Free markets and Neoliberalism to quasi-socialism. On one end of spectrum you have USSR collapse and on the other you have these latin countries which were led into economic chaos in the name of liberty and freedom. I believe our 5 yr plans in a sense were succesful in their own way.Had we not followed such model we would have ended up like pakistan. | ||
| Idiot1 Junior Artist Username: Idiot1 Post Number: 621 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 199.245.32.210 Rating: N/A |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110616/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_france _sects  | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 5453 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
"Within a matter of weeks, an estimated $50 trillion of global wealth virtually vanished.At least $15 trillion of that loss was experienced by Americans, as measured by the combined declines in the value of stocks, bonds, real estate, and other assets." | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 5449 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
alaanti link okati, opika unte chaduvukondi  http://www.scribd.com/doc/49755779/Economic-Warfare-Risks-an d-Responses-by-Kevin-D-Freeman | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2722 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
i get confused by it too. i think they mean to say "dildaar" they have successfully hijacked the words liberal, progressive, reform. may be it started with religious and social liberalism and ended up being political liberalism (exact opposite of the actual meaning)http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 294 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
i think the socialists everywhere have misappropriated the "liberal" label.. everything they swear by is against liberalism.The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 293 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
i don't completely follow your train of logic here.. i think we are mixing up a lot of issues here.. 1. When i say liberalism/free trade is a natural state, i mean that it is so because it would be the state if there were no State to regulate the economy.. so regulation is by definition, a constraint on free trade, and hence needs a lot of justification to be imposed.. even something as "benign and noble" as setting a minimum wage regulation, can have unintended consequences like increasing unemployment, more difficult for new competitors to enter, higher prices etc.. regarding regulation on not having private monopolies, i think it's a regulation which was made because all other regulations (patent laws, tax benefits for large employers, legal and compliance costs etc) are so stifling for a new competitor to come in and challenge the existing monopoly.. 2. when govt runs a company, its objective wouldn't be just profit maximization .. it would be vote/image maximization.. this results in perverse outcomes like govt forcing discount prices even in airline tickets (Air India).. note that any tom, dick and harry can appear magnanimous using others' hard-earned money.. 3. the well known broken window fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window) Applies to various digging the hole and filling it up employment generating schemes of all govts.. the invisible opportunity costs.. 4. imf, blocking trade etc etc are all political tools which obviously carry costs.. and the govt are willing to bear these costs to achieve those political ends.. they are not examples of capitalism.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2721 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
see my sig http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 292 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
the fascination of our intellectuals with the left is just amazing.. considering the "spectacular success" of our own 5 year economic plans for 60 years and running.. stalin, mao, castro, chavez the drum roll goes on.. you can be rest assured that just like china after mao, every other leftist country in the world will eventually move to liberalism.. both in politics and economics.. the order might vary anthe.. the only other alternative would be a collapse ala ussr.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8727 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
nee enks antha scene ledhu babai .. independent documentaries chusi enakesina info and doing some research on the web based on those docus. Der okappudu oka research institute ichadu when we discussed.. went through some of the links there.. chala information undindhi. btw, just now found this article argentina crisis and IMF role gurinchi.. simple ga neat ga rasadu.. easy ga artham avuthundi http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&no de=&contentId=A22623-2001Dec24 | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2718 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
where do you get your news from ? i am also fed up with the current media sources. Looks like you have an inside channel running. There are two reasons why i say what i say 1) I know there are no exceptions to socialist outcomes 2) I have a close friend from there. he escaped and came to US as a refugee. I will post his story some time
again. i am envying your sources. all i can find is crap like this http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/colombia-vs-venezuela-on-crim e/ http://tgr.ph/9QQdyj http://bit.ly/lWu2zE anyway colombia is probably not the best nation to compare with just because its the neighbor. i mean we can be real satisfied when we compare our economic growth with nepal. http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8725 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
google chavez - Bolivar missions and you will get information on chavez policies and how much successful they were. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8724 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Not true again. West reports that corruption in venezuela is highest but the truth is diffeerent. US news channels chusi Chavez ok tyrant and Venezuela oka rogue nation anukuntam ..mana tappu kaadu.. we are fed that information. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8723 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Not true. Neighbouring country Colombia has 300 times more crime rate than venezuela but media in the west report Venezuela has highest because Colombia is an ally to US and is the only country still under clutches of washington so colombia gets a pass even its record in human rights violation is worst and it is drug capital of the world. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2715 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
Thank you for making me read those. very interesting. As per my understanding IMF is akin to a bank that gives money in crisis only. Firstly a nation needs to go to it and beg for money. It doesnt volunteer. So it is the choice of nation whether or not it wants to use it. Secondly its primary interest is recovering its money. If you dont want to deal with that, dont take money from it. 1) Argentina - First of all IMF does not encourage free market principles. It encourages more govt control and more taxation. Its biggest interest is recovering its money, not to enforce liberty. It encourages inflationism, taxation and govt control, perfect mix of poverty. I would look at IMF as congress govt of the world. 2) Can we think of chile experiment as a failure, despite hauling the country from near bankruptcy ? The first reforms were implemented in three rounds - 1974-1983, 1985, and 1990 [2] The reforms were continued and strengthened after 1990. see the gdp graph during those periods. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Economic_ growth_of_Chile.PNG Also how much economic freedom did they have under a military rule during the same periods ? Positive or negative, we need to look at the socio political conditions, trade policies, govt stability etc along with economic policies to assess the success of any system. Sudan can have the least govt interference in businesses but at the same time not provide any protection to free market. We cannot consider the failure of liberal economy. If you want better examples of countries that grew after adapting free market principles, look at singapore. or any of the countries today with most economic freedom (least govt interference and regulation) http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking and tell me if any of the top 50 nations are going bankrupt or face poverty and famine. Coincidence ? another interesting note we are not too different from pakistan. they are 123 and we are 124 in economic freedom. birds of a feather flock together. we are also not too far behind china for those complain about too much capitalism in India. 3) I keep missing the point about venezuela. first of all it is an economy that survives on natural resources and its growth largely depends on intl oil prices. Secondly i dont know which policy of chavez is yielding results. The country suffers with one of the highest levels of corruption in the world. It is not formidably better than an average opec nation. http://bit.ly/mTLoxW Its economic growth depends on intl crude oil prices. http://bit.ly/ktcnv2 It is plagued by all the problems of any socialist nation with protectionist policies. Crime rate is one of the highest in the world. so is corruption. what am i missing here ? http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13579 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Youtube lo unte saalu..aaram gaa Tubemate tho downloading sesukoni..train ko soosukovachu .. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8719 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Oliver stone di south of the border ani oka docu undhi Raju garu..kudirthe chudandi..entertaining and informative. I think it is available on Youtube. Netflix lo it is available. Iran sangathi telvadi..Chavez kurrod ki ego ekkuva..your enemy is same as mine so we are freinds ane concept using chesthunnademo ani anipisthadi Iran vishayam lo. | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13577 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Thanks GF | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 2702 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.30.230.138 Rating: N/A |
idhendhi canada and australia lo asalu no corruption anta | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13571 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Israeli policy emundi...kabzaa cheyyadanni official stamp vesaru ..Western countries..daanni oppose chese vallaki inko peru pettaru anthe.. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8718 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 146.115.118.197 Rating: N/A |
google IMF and argentine crisis and you will find plethora of links on how IMF escalated argentine economic crisis of 2001 with its policies. Chile - chicago boys ani google cheyandi.. Venezuela before chavez ani kuda search cheyandi. After reading the above links you will understand how US treasury and IMF screwed latin america over and over. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5578 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
sanman bro, will continue tomorrow. need to go out now. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2710 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
why should we take any theory at face value and assume that all of them are good when implemented perfectly ? isnt the test of facing implementation challenges part of a theory ? these economic theories must adhere to human behavior first. i can propose a new theory called sunmoonism which says " no one must desire more than they can consume but produce to their full potential until their society reaches its full consumption capacity" and say that is the greatest economic and political theory and im sure a lot of disgruntled people will accept it its face value but after implementing it will find out that they are more miserable than they were before. and to begin with i have to use force for the next 50 or 100 years until my followers realize that i was an idiot that didnt know what i was talking about. karl marx discredited his own work in the later years of his life but by that time too many nations have adapted it in blissful ignorance. http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2709 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
let us not be impervious to the cause and focus solely on effects. "because there are more opportunities" is a rationale that does not address "why". please explain that also. if that is true it is due to births not from conversions. even if it were, it is no way related to any economic model. but yes if the sales of ipods are soaring it is a general indicator that they offer the best experience in mp3 players for the price. uhhhh.... Telangana movement ? tolerance is the trait of a prosperity not poverty. daridraaniki aakali ekkuva. even in US when the economy is good there are no rallies against outsourcing. also the owners of businesses are not too much against outsourcing or foreign workers as much as the layman who is told that their jobs are being stolen http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.png | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5569 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
dont tell me you walk freely alone in the USA, without having to worry about someone shooting at people. Even schools have become unsafe in the USA. I was talking to a elder generation Indian American, he was talking about how in india there is a saying, when people used to say "ardha rathri adadhi vantariga thirigina roju, manaki nijamaina swathanthryam vachinattu" - he said. here in the USA these days, a man cannot freely roam around alone, let alone a woman. an astute observation i must say. he is an american citizen and loves this country as the next citizen. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5568 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
annai, now i can say we are on the same page. coming back to communism and capitalism both are two extremes, and are scenarios where every one is doing there job right. these are idealogically perfect scenarios. currently our civilization is some where in the middle of these, and few countries are leaning towards the communist ideology(which is utopian ideology where every one is working for everyone else around), and some towards capitalism(where few bright ones take the mantle and create oppurtunities for others). both have their down sides to their complete implementation. The problem here is advocates of capitalism try to potray as a evil system, and same goes to the advocates of the other theory. ask a native indian as to what capitalism did to their culture, ask a south american what imperialism did to their culture, ask a russian what communism did to their culture.. they all bankrupted their existing cultures, and started new cultures. which is better, as i said earlier, is a matter of perspective. communism and capitalism is not just about economies it boils down to the way of life.
placards, air tickets has nothing to do with ideological implications in my view. wherever there are oppurtunities people flock there. In Pre-industrialization period, people for flocking to reach India, does that mean the world had to emulate the indian way of economy. In other words worlds fastest growing religion is Islam, so can we assume that Islam is the best religion this world can offer? Why is there discontempt in americans about loosing their jobs to foriegners? do we see the same discontempt about foreigners taking their jobs in countries where people are not buying their air tickets too? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2707 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
map of freedom http://bit.ly/ig8Kg3 GDP per capita world map http://bit.ly/ldPSgN corruption index http://bit.ly/kdCaF8 superimpose those images and you might not be able to notice where one ended and other started just for fun http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Brain_Socialist_Democrat.pn g pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2706 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
Der kurrodiki hitler kuda not so bad anipistunnaadu ee madhya. most of the socialist countries listed below are not even safe to walk around let alone live and prosper there. elli akkada kurchoni super undhi ani cheppadam veru abbo chaala baagundhanta michael moore seppaadu ani anukovadam veru pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2705 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
like you already identified that is a political decision. isolationism is not advocated in capitalism. it is not even economically sound principle. just because US did it doesnt mean it is sound capitalism. the constitution of US has the most scope for implementing capitalism. doesnt mean it is done 100% or even 50%. sadly for humanity that is the country that stands as an example of free market potential. protectionism is the principle of communism not capitalism. who stopped India from participating in open trade before 1991 and even today with grains ? the most growth restrictions come from within a communist/socialist nation not from outside. instead of just waving placards lets see the live voting pattern. lets assume people are voting with flight tickets. which countries are they preferring ? and what is common to all those countries ? pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5561 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
raju bro, no doubt iranian president is a crazy guy, but US or International communities could never answer his questions... especially in regards to Isreali policies towards middleast or nuclear policies. his comments on the five permament membership countries hit the UN like a thunder bolt. there is some truth to the arguments he puts forward. ofcourse, he is a dangerous guy. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5560 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
ok, wasnt planning to get back to db for couple of days. why arent free markets supposed to trade with Cuba, why are there sanctions against Cuba, to kill the cuban economy - ofcourse politics related, but both are intertwined.
same argument can be made against capitalist theories too right.. the theory of corrections!!? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13569 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.11 Rating: N/A |
Details isthe memu kooda saduvuthamu kada ..link unte
aithe next Iran aa ?? enduku ante already Der kurrod..saying Iran president is not as bad as the West potrays him to be | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2704 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
please explain. sounds interesting. US lo ne free market laedhu mallee veellu vere countries lo free market midha em experiments chesaaru ? proving to be successful antoo emi laedhu. the time hasnt come for the results of centralized govt planning to manifest itself anthe. disintegrate ayye 2 years mundu varaku kuda ussr bagane undhi. last 50 years centralized planning unna cuba situation enti ? kontha mandhi anti US and anti capitalist romantics evariki teliyani doorapu kondalu nunupu stories pattukochi chupistaru. ground reality there will be totally different. michael moore gadu cuba ki poi unna okka posh hospital videos pattukochi idhe cuba ani chupettaadu. akkada hospitals are worse than our govt hospitals. if those countries are so great we would be typing all this sitting there not in US. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3168 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 94.228.220.7 Rating: N/A |
because they believed in living simple and true to nature and the fact that this world is not permanent and transitionary In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3167 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 94.228.220.7 Rating: N/A |
are you married?, inta serious thread lo idi eeka lanti question but I am curious, if you are married does your plan include your family if not married yugantam ayina taruvata bratiki em jestaru? In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8717 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
thnks endhuku le bro.. 2 days nunchi thread loki jorralani chusthunna.. hifi posts thone jaaga ivvatled janalu.. so sandu dorkindi, irikina annattu. | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5554 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.7.127 Rating: N/A |
getafix annai, thanks for the Venezuela example, was about to post the same. discussion between you and der is fresh on my mind too. sanman bro, jujung, will catch up with you guys later. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8715 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Untill 2000 , US treasury and IMF used all these latin american countries (except Venezuela) as guinea pigs in their free market experiments. 1997 lo chavez, 2003 lo argentina broke away from IMF. Brazil, and others followed and they now have their own version of nationalistic economies where govt is the driver and their model is proving to be successful. | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8714 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
specifi gane ichina. venezuela lo chalavaraku enterprise ni nationalise chesadu Chavez.. in his presidency,poverty went down as much as 70%. Venezuela lo oil matrame kaadu they have a solid agricultural base and other enterprises now. Brazil inko example.. Lula is a leftist.. he was union leader before becoming president, Eeroju Brazil growth phenomenal. They are gunning like anything. Just 10 years ago, all these countries were under clutches of IMF and US treasury. They used to have high inflation. Brazil paid its entire debt to IMF under Lula and they were in surplus as of 2009. Funny.. 2 years ago I and Der had argument on venezuela.. Back then naa meeda US media effect super undedi..He said Chavez is not that kind of person which US tries to portray ani ..after 2 yrs, nen U turn kotti chavez rocks antunna.. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2703 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
[google] The economy of Venezuela is largely based on the petroleum sector, which accounts for roughly a third of the country's GDP, around 80% of total exports, and more than half of the government operating revenues Better example kaavali ante Saudi Arabia use cheyandi. aa economic model replicate cheddaama India lo ? Rest of the world has to work for food. these countries have to allow digging. question is to show examples where govt is better than private. venezuala saudi arabia ante saripodu. be specific pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8713 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Venezuela! latin america lo curently ippudu Venezuelan model full popular ippudu. Bolivia,Argentina,Chile,Paraguay,Ecquador - these countries are more or less following Venezuelan socialist model and they have been successful to some level. Ofcourse west brands Venezuela govt as dictatorship and Hugo Chavez as tyrant adi vere sangathi. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2701 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
why dont you give examples where govt performed better than private. im sure there are exceptions but it is very rare. kindha jujung cheppinattu it is not about govt vs private. it is about monopoly vs competition. govts anni evil ani kaadhu. even if their intentions are good they just dont have the expertise to assess the markets. private greed ki solution private greed from competition. that is the only way the consumer wins. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5551 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
Jujung, I completely agree with your thoughts here. But the point to me was which sector is better performing. A blind yes to Private sector as being the better perfoming sector is what I was posting against. The point of contention to me is a good percentage of private sector initiatives perform relatively bad when compared to a public sector intiatives. ofcourse like you said, when a private sector fails, the investors loose, but when a public sector initiative fails, its the people who loose. I agree that there should be a healthy competition for moving forward in any arena, and to me public sector should also be part of the competition, and it beats me when the proponents of private sector are against such a competition with the state.
I do not think there is any free market by definition, case in point would be the regulations on monopoly, or manufacturing drugs. there are restrictions as to how and what are legal trade entities. to me this is against the very nature of liberal trade, there is a definetly a design/plan on how trade is to be performed. If it needs to be liberal market why are we against a monopoly of a private organization. Arent we again try to restrict or constrain the growth of a private industry.If a startup needs to compete with an existing monopoly, let it be, as it would be the natural state of the competition.
annai, I dont know how to respond to these. judgement pass chesi, deal with it ante, emi chepthanu. mee ishtam vachinatte kanivvandi antaanu. My posts are purely argumentative, these are not my stands. Private sector, liberal market anevi only relative terms in my mind. if a person is ready to sell his kidney, per free trade we should let him sell his kidney, but why do we have regulations against it. we as a civilization are evolving, so are our regulations and theories. better edhi anedhi purely perceptional, and cultural. selling of land - from a native indian perspective is culturally against native americans. their school of thought you dont trade the air, dont trade the water, dont trade land which part of nature, but so the free traders used weapons to gain their land and started trading their land. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17418 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
it might not be a solution but the strings should always be with the govt to reign in the greed of corporations.....lekapothe chusam ga yem chesaro.....
yes thats a shame....but govt ni/president ni hijack sesi....inko daniki link pettaru ga.... JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2699 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
govt intervention in private businesses is never a solution to rich poor disparity. history has shown that it only increases the disparity. in any country govt spending just mean friends of govt earning. why is obama still continuing the bush tax cuts? if the continuing policy is govt deciding who gets more public money it doesnt matter who is in govt. btw read up on public option and tell me if the insurance companies will make more or less money with it pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17413 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
ok bro GN. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17412 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
...the insurance companies denying claims while their profits raise by 3-400% itself is a proof...that it is not good....enough.
who is even talking about socialism?...that is just beating drums to rep propaganda (ofcourse you ca do it if you believe so...and where is free health care...what public option got to do with free...the govt is giving an 'option'...you can take it if you like or go with your own provider...whats wrong in that...it for sure will ensure a good check on the current practices of the insurance companies.....inka 'fear of what will happen in the future' ante danni with out any basis anocchemo...and it doesn't hold ground when the fear mongers are the companies themselves. and coming to free loaders yes...naku vasthe vaake lekunte ledhu ante that is hypocracy. Warren buffet lanti vaallu bush tax cuts not fair..teeseyyali annarante....their words definately mean something. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2698 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
well if you are making a statement there has to be a basis to the statement other than personal whim. you can say you want free education someone else can say they want free food. there has to be some validity to the claim right. i am asking where is the validation to your claim coming from i miss the humor. i explained below why i think it is apt of course. thats what happens in socialism. what do you think will happen with free healthcare ? who do you think will get benefited most ? the same free loaders. but you want to ignore that becuase "poor man" is getting "free" healthcare. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17410 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
.....says who? LOL then the whole point of this disco is a waste....anyone can just say says who. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17409 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
where is the point of free service....first 8.99 annadu..tharuvatha 3.99 something annadu....is the example not a joke?...thew shameless billoinares and every crooked businessman who tries to abuse the system/govt/rules are biggest free loaders period. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17408 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
I didn't mean govt running hospitals directly, ofcourse even that becomes necessary depending on the conditions....but facilitating these in such a way that they are available to everyone is a govt responsibility. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2696 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
very compelling case. i would agree with it as an exception since it is not applicable to any other case and cannot used to expand. most of the expensive procedures fall under emergency. all the evils that are associated with any program not negotiated by consumer on a case by case basis will befall on it making it expensive and inefficient. thanks for the responses. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 291 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
Security is generally for protection against another individual harming us.. society bearing these expenses is acceptable for it has to be fair.. health-care is generally for protection against our own luck/indiscretion.. we cannot force others to bear the costs for our own bad-luck.. but i think emergency care should be made mandatory for it is time-critical.. which would mean a tax-surcharge on all for this purpose.. such mandatory insurances for catastrophic events are beneficial just like car-liability insurance.. the more localized such laws the better though.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11944 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
and bankrupting this country by increasing the healthcare debt on a massive scale. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2695 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
why ? you are expecting free service from both the providers. just because one service is more urgent doesn't mean they have to provide it for free. more importantly those who oppose public option are not heartless robots who have no empathy for the plight of a poor patient. they are afraid of the end result which is driving up of costs of healthcare for everyone including the poor as a result of govt intervention. says who ? how is education or health more important than any other need of humans like food, shelter, clothing ? what makes one a govt responsibility and not others? i would say homelessness is a bigger killer than lack of health insurance. do we want the govt to build everyone a home (like visionaries indira and ntr wanted) pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 290 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
Thank you everyone for the good words.. it's good timepass sometimes in the db..
profit/loss are just indicators of whether resource utilization is efficient or not.. govt responsibility automatically does not imply govt should run hospitals and schools.. if it does not artificially constrain the supply volume - of the number of doctors, schools etc, that itself will be a great help.. and we don't even require 6-7 years of medical college degrees for providing primary health care in villages.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2694 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
i wish i had your clarity of thought. debatable. not any time soon but why should it be an exception to the theory? what is your reasoning behind not agreeing to private security option which is a less urgent service than free care at hospital when you are dying ? pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17407 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
I don't know about Krugman till the day his name was mentioned in DB, but the restaurant example of the author to refute what he said is silly enough if not stupid. How can the author just say the buck is passed on to others when in fact the healthcare companies profits rose by what 3-400%? everything can't be measured in simple profit and loss terms.....somethings like health care, education are responsibilities of the government...comparing that to an individual or with a for profit company itself is a joke....again if not stupid. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9054 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 207.170.241.120 Rating: N/A |
Jujung and Sanman: Welcome to this db ani cheppaalani undi.. i know its been a hwile you guys roaming around.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!!  | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 288 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
It's not about whether one private company will be better than govt.. it's about competition vs monopoly.. if a private company messes it up, we'll ditch it and go to another and the govt needs to do the needful in case of fraud.. if the govt messes it up, it's time for revolution.. here's where the regulation policies come into play.. if the govt makes regulations so onerous and cumbersome that it becomes nearly impossible for a newcomer to start a competing company, it'll again lead to a monopoly kind of situation which has the same problems.. we see this all the time in insurance/health-care/doctors/big-banks/etc The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 287 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: N/A |
liberalism and free market is a natural state - if we do not impose any "design/plan".. all others like mixed economy, socialism, communism, religions and even constitutional democracy are imposed ideas/structures.. we agree to them to form a society and we see certain advantages in forming these societies: mainly for protection in exchange for some loss of personal freedom.. so each time we bring a law to curb our freedom, there needs to be a lot of justification to do that ani naa bhaavam.. stiglitz et al say markets can often fail because information is not available to everyone at all times etc etc.. which is all perfectly fine.. but it is well-proven in practice that if million people participating in free trade at various places cannot figure out the optimal utilization of resources, it is very unlikely that a bunch of bureaucrats at few institutes can figure it out on an average.. "on an average" it is advantageous to leave the allocation of capital to millions of individuals when there are millions of desires and needs to be catered to.. but there are things like protection of individual rights, delivery of justice, etc which cannot be privatized for they do not and should not depend on the ability of the individual to "purchase" them in a modern society.. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2678 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: |
interesting for those who are interested http://www.krugmaniswrong.com/ pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 848 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.70.136 Rating: N/A |
There is definitely exploitation by America and other western countries, a lot of us don't know it, some of the whole me first selfish arm twisting approach can be heartbreaking. All said and done, if i were asked to chose sides, i would most likely be pro-America. There are many great things about that nation. | ||
| Morpheus Junior Artist Username: Morpheus Post Number: 963 Registered: 12-2010 Posted From: 68.98.160.106 Rating: |
 'ikkada inko poradi peru tevali ani undhi kani ekki ekki edustadu so lite | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2659 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
as opposed to other theories where robots are incharge ? pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Cyberabadsinnodu Comedian Username: Cyberabadsinnodu Post Number: 1779 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.206.116.251 Rating: N/A |
yes astronomically.. ఎంత చికాగో యునివర్సిటీ లో చదువుకున్నా చిలక్కొట్టుడికి సరైన ఇంగ్లీషు పదం దొరుకుతుందా..!! | ||
| Gandhiguevara Hero Username: Gandhiguevara Post Number: 17451 Registered: 10-2009 Posted From: 98.210.96.94 Rating: N/A |
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| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 23286 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
one more, Linguistically | ||
| Anand_n Side Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 9608 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.120.91.149 Rating: N/A |
Intaki emi telcharu - astrologically/politically/economically ??? Oct 21 end of the world anta - aa deadline miss avute Dec 21, 2012 - appativaraku anna economy baguntada ? Ayite democracies/socialist countries bagupadali-better to vote for Obama 
5 stars Enjoy reading your posts
Did you mean 'incite' or 'insight' ? Asking cos both homophones make sense aa chal ke tujhe main leke chalu ik aise gagan ke tale jahan gam bhi na ho, aansoo bhi na ho,bas pyaar hi pyaar pale | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2658 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
i don't think there is a lot of debate about who is better private or govt. the reasons are obvious. stick doesnt work as well as carrot. you can find a 1000 examples for that. a more interesting topic would be why private is almost always better than govt. simple answer is underlying human psychology. let me know which part you don't agree with pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5550 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.128.5 Rating: N/A |
I do not agree with this line of argument, to me there is not much difference, both are supposed to be secure and are to be made as fool proof as possible. GMAC might not have been hacked today, may be tomorrow, and as you have said as long as humans are doing it, nothing is fool proof, and that is what i am looking for. It is not just the system, it is the individuals that matter, whether it is private or public sector. Whether its private or public sectors, both have to be act swiftly. and that is what my argument is always about. To me there is no guarantee that a private sector institution will act swiftly, they might write mission statements, they might start grand policy measures, but does it really matter? when you say citibank aticipates these kind of hacks, why cant we anticipate the same with Eamcet!!? why is it a blunder if its done by public sector, not so when it is from private sector. I see bias in your argument!!? the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Ntr_rocks Moderator Username: Ntr_rocks Post Number: 23037 Registered: 04-2009 Rating: N/A |
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| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2657 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
why do you want to compare EAMCET leaks with citibank leaks. compare EAMCET leaks with GMAT leaks ! sounds funny right. good. that is the efficiency of private. here is the job statement from gmac. http://www.gmac.com/gmac/NewsandEvents/DeansDigest/2008/Apri l2008/TestSecurity_Jobst.htm please post the job statement from our education minister about eamcet or ipe not to say bad things dont happen in private firms. but they are dealt with swiftly and decisively and preventive actions are taken to not repeat them. why ? because someone's bottom line is at stake. have you heard of a minister losing his job let alone end his career because eamcet papers leaked ? have you ever heard of a bureaucrat come out and say it was my fault ? what is the govt response to 1.5 lakh crore loss in 2g ? who apologized ? who took blame ? regarding citibank leaks, it is not something unexpected. there is even protocol to be followed when it is found out that customer data is compromised. if they are not followed, they are punishable by law. as long as humans are operating it, nothing is foolproof. but compare the response initiated in both cases. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5548 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.7.127 Rating: N/A |
Sanman bro, Eamcet papers leak ayithe govt should not be handling such things ani thread esav, how about citibank, its data got compromised, should we say private institutions should not handle such things, or should we be saying the system should be made better.. zara lite eyyi... PS: purely argumentative incite, no qualifier from my side which is better... the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Side Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 5547 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 71.91.7.127 Rating: N/A |
matter meedha disco lekunda, eee thread endhi intha baaru undhi...
just a observation - all these social experiments that are being tried - communism, capitalism, religions do they have any justification I wonder, and even liberalism? like you mentioned these all involve human behavior and interactions, and how well is liberalism a better scenario considering human behavior will be a much more potent variable in the equation!!! citing USSR as an example is faulty in my view, it has failed, that doesnt mean the concept has failed - which is actually a liberalist argument !!? I feel proponents of capitalist, communist theories try to find more holes on the other side, than providing any incites in to their justifications. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Emc2 Side Hero Username: Emc2 Post Number: 2910 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 70.174.180.39 Rating: N/A |
sufer said... cherapakura chedevu. | ||
| Goonda Hero Username: Goonda Post Number: 15040 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 74.177.46.190 Rating: |
talk the talk, walk the walk.. just talking for sake of argument is waste. If you do think that this country is capitalist/terroristm then please stop working for these capitalist companies. No one is putting a gun to your head and asking you to work here. If you don't like this country & have no intentions of staying here, why do you want to get a GC. Knowledge is divine, please do not waste it here in Discussion forums | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2655 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
big fan sir ledhu brother no again. i dont even follow stock market pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2654 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: |
apparently not according to you. i guess imposing Keynesians or dictating Marxists are on higher moral ground in your head. so now morality is a non human realm per you ? i already did. in my last post. not sure how you can miss it really ? Martingale pricing theory ? what trait of yours are you trying to show off ? your memory or your googling skills ? how is either one relevant here ? you dont need an orthopedician to notice you are walking with a stump. your posts take longer to read because of missing or misplaced prepositions mixed with words that no one uses in daily life. find some skill with practical application and then may be you can stop being a genius that needs someone to cut his paycheck pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 23280 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
monna rain, clouds video lo choosinam lay
ha haa....nuvvu ph.d slave vi mari iran gaadu ph.d avuthey saalu...aadu edhi chepthey adhi nammesthaav mari noble prize ayithey enti, thokka. avi maathram lobbying lekundaa vasthaaya endhi, krugman gaadu german aa? neekevaru citizenship, greencard balavanthamgaa ivvaru, bhayapadaku nee avasaram kosam, usa lo unnaav, americans ni uddharinchadaaniki kaadhu . | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9634 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: N/A |
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 286 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 68.45.60.104 Rating: |
This anti-liberalism and anti-freedom is strange. Liberalism/freedom needs no defense, but constraining it needs justification at every stage. Stiglitz, Krugman, et al, as economists can only analyze, by virtue of their training, when markets succeed/fail. But the moment they start proposing solutions, they have as much standing as any politician/individual because the solutions generally involve human behavior and interactions which is the domain of politics. If economists/scientists can design and plan societies and their workings, USSR would have been the most prosperous region in the world. The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
| Abcdefghij Hero Username: Abcdefghij Post Number: 10215 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 76.226.7.247 Rating: |
nobel prize voste topu turama endi.... obama ki kuda icharu value lekunda poindi... paul garu k.a paul type vunna 4 options cheppestadu edo okkati avtundi nenu munde cheppanu antadu....
so true....kurchunna chettune narikesta vuntaru iranian president wah wah 10 days akkada job chesukoni vochi cheppali... jagan loser ani nenu ante intavaraku no jagan fan contradicted me. -- Maverick 27817 | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9633 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 98.221.83.14 Rating: N/A |
bedar meeru evaru? old ID edaina vundaa? fin domain lo working chesthaara? You don't have to answer if it is too personal :-) Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8511 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.6.182.100 Rating: N/A |
Yeah I guess u are worthy enough to usher upon us both...truly u sound like one... | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8510 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.6.182.100 Rating: N/A |
Oh the mighty job provider....liberals are free thinking??? Moral validity for economic theories...really??? U provide only logical validity to a theory and a moral justification to its application to human realm... can you out of ur infinite genius show me a logical validity of free markets..oh mighty job provider...... so the next post U will claim expertise in Martingale pricing theory and claim pure mathematics as ur childhood play...I always suspected that u were this original...but frankly now i am blown away... | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8509 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.6.182.100 Rating: N/A |
Malli ivvandi.naaku gnapakam ledhu..U cant change the fact that the iranian president is a better orator and thinker that the propoganda backed american presidents ever.... U are a citizen of this country I guess...I am not and I shall never be....so I am not a slave to beleive that whatever american press says is the truth krugman, wall street mouth piece ah?????????????????? OMG ....really....... | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2653 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
 lol i am not looking for a job dear. i provide jobspululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2650 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
adulterate ? really ? not karl marx not keynes but the free thinking liberals the only people that can claim any moral validity to their economic theories without the use of force or intervention are the adulterers ? bagundhi. i dont know what is more skewed. your reason or your grammar ! pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8508 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.6.182.100 Rating: N/A |
Oh I c...I guess u were hired by one | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2648 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
assuming what you are saying is true, what is the use of reading all that without coming to a logical conclusion and seeing through krugman's words? just because he got a nobel prize doesnt mean cannot be used as a tool in someone's agenda! btw you dont need to know economics to make money for a wallstreet firm. pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Goonda Hero Username: Goonda Post Number: 15034 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 74.177.46.190 Rating: |
inkaa kastapadutu ikkada enduku vundadm brother.. chakkaga non-terrorist & non capitalist country loki elli settle avvochu kada? | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 23266 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
Last week, your so called ph.d in structural engineering from Iran choosinam gaa. I even provided the video, hope you watched it. For some reason....you like and enjoy anyone that critises or say doomsday theories on usa. this is not the first time, lol Ayinaa present topic of US economy ki...middle eastern and american tellalism ki, link ento naaku ardham kaaledhu endhukayina manchidhi, kids mandarin nerchukovadam better, inko extra language nerchukuntay thappuledhu | ||
| Telugu_tammudu Junior Artist Username: Telugu_tammudu Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 71.130.196.184 Rating: N/A |
LOL Paul Krugman's predictions..... He is just a mouthpeice of Wall Street. Scare tactics and criticism. http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2383045/posts | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8507 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
TT baba so U claim more expertise than stiglitz and krugman.....probably the leading economists of the world.....strange confidence does this nationalistic jingoism bring....I wish u respectd the middle east for theirs too...for me there is no difference between any rouige state in the world and US...both are terrorits in different garbs | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8506 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 24.4.203.251 Rating: N/A |
due respect 2 u, I know my econ....I guess that exactly why I worked for GS for 3 long years on a successful trading desk.....So yeah rest assured that I know what Keyenes professes and what adam smith wanted to see to preclude random actions and its influences on the mean turn of events......I have read Von mises and hayek too.....their spur to adulterate with their stupid liberalism and how america embraced it ......rather ambiguously for its selfish ends...I know brentonwoods were gold was by a deviltry replaced by the current devil called the greenback....which was the most immoral of exploitations....when the world was reeling in the aftermath of war...... So pray state ur case not discounting for the fear of me not being able to follow ur thread of reason | ||
| Jawmetri Junior Artist Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 844 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 59.93.75.108 Rating: N/A |
No its not, this is an individual, that is a civilization. | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11921 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
It's like asking "Bala is an actor, why can't he become PM of the country if he is so famous?" .... Mayans are masters in predicting astronomical changes accurately but not in handcrafted clothing because of the lack of raw material.... | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13528 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 24.185.0.224 Rating: N/A |
Baba Garu...naa Astrological analysis kooda isthanu..adi kooda inukondi.. Starting October ..Saturn (the greatest leveller)..the representative of the poor/deprived and downtrodden will be in his sign of exhaltation..in Libra..for 2.5 years.. What can happen in this time ante..pedda pedda Rajulu/Rajyalu kooda koolipoyi..maamoolu prajanikam ki oka change choosi avakasam kaluguthundi.. the last time this would have happened was about 25 to 30 years back..aa time lo emi world events jariginayo..Middle east or West or Russia or wherever anedi oka sari tiragesi soodali..to guess what could be the trend.. Interestingly Jupiter is in opposition to Saturn ...with Saturn in full strength aspecting Jupiter..so duniya etu potundi anedi next 1/1.5 years lo.will be interesting to watch | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2647 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
if the mayans are so smart why werent they able to come up with better clothing than a loin cloth pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11920 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
It doesn't matter..... The destiny has already been written in the Mayan history book. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2646 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
what if you get a false alarm ? how will you know it was a false alarm pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Blackmamba Side Hero Username: Blackmamba Post Number: 8245 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 72.187.125.4 Rating: N/A |
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| Blackmamba Side Hero Username: Blackmamba Post Number: 8244 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 72.187.125.4 Rating: N/A |
eti 2012 dec ki appude food supplies stocked up aa  | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 23256 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
Last time recession lo, around year 2000....oka joke circulate ayyedhi. prathi american kid, telugu nersukoni, india velthaadu ani.... Mandarin nersukovaalanta. one year, chinese students ki, USA visas ban jesthey....odduna padda chepallaagaa gila gila kottukuntaaru, lol Last time...aaa batta thala musalodi perenti? Federal reserve chairman Alan Greenspan gaadu....when the economy was good....Greenspan thopu thurum ani roju, media lo bhajana economy dhobbagaanay....wrong policies of Greenspan ani shuru jesindru sharaa maamoolay | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11919 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
yes this materialistic world will come to end..
already cheppa kada, I stocked up food supplies and found a secret place to hide...inka propaganda avasaram ledu.. | ||
| Venkateswarlu Side Hero Username: Venkateswarlu Post Number: 9009 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 67.168.29.210 Rating: N/A |
I am planning to 'a' stock .. 20K .. konei mantaaraa ledaa.. tension ettakundaa..neat gaa seppandi.. In this db, there's always someone watching you!! | ||
| Blackmamba Side Hero Username: Blackmamba Post Number: 8243 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 72.187.125.4 Rating: N/A |
annai naakoti ardam kaatalle elagu next year end ki yugaantham ani nuvve cheppavu kada.. inka recession vaste eti inkoti vaste eti... btw 2012 taadus tagginchaveti.. all settings done aa  | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11918 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
1929 lo ilage take it easy anukuni depression shuru ayyindi...ippudu kooda take it easy anukuni anukunte obum gadu america ni china ki ammestadu.. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 23253 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
recession lo...ituvanti Nay sayers shaana septhaaru every 7-8 yrs ki, ituvanti pulihoraa news regular | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2645 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
calm down. it is not a competition. if you are really curious google these - keynesian influence, inflationism, fiat currency, second brettonwoods agreement. then find out the difference between keynesian and austrian schools of economics. then let me know if you agree with this statement - Medicare has its problems — but all the evidence says that it is substantially more cost-effective than private insurance. Partly this is because it has lower administrative costs; partly it’s because Medicare is able to use its market power to negotiate lower prices. And the international evidence is overwhelming: single-payer systems are much cheaper than systems centered on private insurance. read with an open mind. i know its a lot to ask from you, but otherwise you are just wasting your time pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8505 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 65.42.208.133 Rating: N/A |
thats ur $2 million not 2 cents. mana nandi awards type lo unnai ee nobel prizes. obama for peace prize but not gandhi Nobel peace is rigged defly ... hard sciences really....I am sure u know most of the modern day economics...can u be kind enough to expound on krugman's work.....just to learn from u that is | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8504 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 65.42.208.133 Rating: N/A |
im sure if you study more you will come up with better answers faster than others Oh my my......so I get to hear this ....OK....so from ur dazzling repertoire, can you be kind enough to guide to a resource that U deem has endowed u with this almost enviable reason.. | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11915 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
Obama gadiki nobel prize endo...tuglak gadu chesindi emi ledu....every year QE1,QE2 ani kotha schemes tho money printing thappa emi cheyyaledu......happy ga michelle obama world tours,kids ki every national holiday vacation in different parts of the world....at the expense of tax payers money. | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2641 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
thats ur $2 million not 2 cents. mana nandi awards type lo unnai ee nobel prizes. obama for peace prize but not gandhi pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Okahyderabadi Side Hero Username: Okahyderabadi Post Number: 3141 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 95.154.240.128 Rating: N/A |
 found your replies hilariousIn history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2634 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: |
anukunna le neeku ardham kaadhu ani. edho chinna aasa tho adigaa. neeku idea ekkaali ante nobel laureate cheppali naaku chinna pillodu cheppina chaalu fundamentals satisfy aithe. fyi all major social networking companies have good fundamentals. they might be overvalued but we are not going to see tech bubble burst like in 2000s. there might be a corrections like for every other business but they are not going to start the correction im sure if you study more you will come up with better answers faster than others pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 17276 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: |
nee laanti talented kurrol ki warald motham M ayipoina .. jumper mee bumper vostaadi.. nuvvu kanaaaru adipoyi maa laanti mango ppl ki kangaaru etaku.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Mrhyderabad Side Hero Username: Mrhyderabad Post Number: 9632 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 209.51.184.11 Rating: N/A |
Chuss... monnane desam lo oka product company lo bumper mein jumper offer vasthe light teesukunna inko 3-4 years tarvata think cheddam le ani... tappu chesaanu antaaraa? Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2774 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.145.17.243 Rating: N/A |
uh oh, of all the people Krugman. Don't fall for the nobel. It doesn't mean shxit. Obama is Peace prize winner, who started new war fronts in middle east. Al Gore is a Nobel winner, who is in hiding now. Not sure about the nobels in hard sciences, but otherwise it feels like another institution to further the causes of vested interests.........just like IMF, World Bank and UN.... BTW, Krugman gaari only advice is to go more and more deep into debt......it is like prescribing liquor to a person suffering from hangover..... bottomline, nobel doesn't mean shxit. He cud be a paid shill acting as a tool..... my 2 cents.... | ||
| Pplsuck Side Hero Username: Pplsuck Post Number: 2773 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 184.145.17.243 Rating: N/A |
Guri, You have very high hopes on Obama. I ain't saying he is good or bad. He is just another face providing the so called "CHOICE" for people to feel good. From what I read, I think US politicians are mere puppets. Democrats and Republicans is just "Dog and Pony" show to keep the masses entertained. Will provide the links as I come across. >>>>> wht you need is people with common sense and people who could identify themselves with common man to be in power... >>>>>>>>>>>> 100% agree with this. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8500 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
econmic rochu jarigindhi reganian era lo vachina free market shite valla...akkada keynes ela irikinchavo vinalani undhi | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8499 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
Guriginja: yevado gottam gadu yedo thearom seppadu...adhi fail ayye samasye ledhu ani oka hypothesis meedha sanka nakincharu ga total ga prapanchanne.. are you talking about keynes Samna, asalu US history lo keynes ela vochado chepthava????? | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8498 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
evaru idhi cheppina nostradaumus Nee antha intelligence leni Krugman ani afterall oka nobel laurette...also idhe maata 4 months nunchi andaru silicon valley and econ experts chepthunnaru...social networking companies valuation humbug ani | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2631 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
evaru idhi cheppina nostradaumus pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Sanman Side Hero Username: Sanman Post Number: 2630 Registered: 08-2010 Posted From: 71.199.91.151 Rating: N/A |
are you talking about keynes intentions mean nothing. in fact if a person who is lacking in reason but with power to intervene has a heart of gold, it is recipe for disaster pululu simhaalu antu emi undavu. just a matter of convenience http://i51.tinypic.com/rsv53o.jpg | ||
| Dreamcatcher Comedian Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 1851 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
Perfectly said. People, leaders, politicians, majority of them in this country put country ahead of any other interests. That clearly shows up in the country policies as well. If their dominance is threatened, they will do whatever it takes, period. | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 8149 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 202.133.58.59 Rating: N/A |
As long as US corps control oil and arms trade, nothing severe will happen to US status as super even if china decouples it's economy, they will go to africa for cheap goods.....the current attack on libya shows what can US do if things threaten to go out of it's hand | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17394 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
I don't think so, I think social conciousness here is atleast better than india...(manam susina desal ivi rende kanuka)....mana daggara daridram nenu bagunte saaalu (majority pakkanodu sankanaki povali ani kuda korukuntaranuko)...porapatuna kuda okadiki sayapadara...unleasee he sees something in it for him...ikkada koddo goppo majority will give their last dollor to the needy...if he is not using it. (mindset chepthunna...not about money) JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8496 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
first and formemost thing to remember that yuo don't need the smartest brains to run the country. On the contrary greespan was not even respected academically....US economy was run by a bunch of unethical thugs....the people loved the excesses and they gave them more....the fact is that the US scoiety is almost decrepit morally...they neeed to start over and learn that they matter no more than others on the world scene | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17393 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: |
first and formemost thing to remember that yuo don't need the smartest brains to run the country...yevado gottam gadu yedo thearom seppadu...adhi fail ayye samasye ledhu ani oka hypothesis meedha sanka nakincharu ga total ga prapanchanne....wht you need is people with common sense and people who could identify themselves with common man to be in power... JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17392 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
danni correct seyanu try sesad kanukane papam musalodini musesar lagundhi gaa... JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17391 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
it doesn't matter who runs it....country law is supreme.....the people running those big companies are running the government...dennis kucinich seppinattu house and senate sethilo vunnappudu vuga kunda sankanakina taruvatha nenu strict ani vuguthunnadu obama....but still he is the best man out there.... JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8495 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
salaries and bonuses kuda book adjustments antava? Guri....Libor rates US goodwill meedha fix ayyevi mostly...ela ante US and Uk used to borrow at Libor and if India eanted to borrow it would Libor and a ridiculously high spread....while the standard economic logic is that u shud charge the heavy borrower more as if he defaults u are royally....effed..... They undid it....and guess what where did the money come....again from US....so they borrowed from the world....lent it to IMF and set the Libor and used to lend it out to the same countries for a premuim!!!!!!!!! It all worked because the credit rating of the green back was the highest...now it is "pegged" at A-. The true estimate of US debt now is B- | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 17254 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
it will eti.. it has to.. 34 anukunnaru.. 44 tho start chesi.. 104 ki close ayindi first day.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17390 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
bust tax cuts ni power vunnappudu peeki dobbalsindhi....200 of those big b(m)illionarlu sepparu...like buffet...maku vaddhu ani....siggulekunda danni konasagincharu... JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 17253 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
veedi stock opeing day more 104% rise ayindi.. enduko evadiki teldu.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Dreamcatcher Comedian Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 1850 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
IPO next day nunche correction start ayyindi...almost 3 billion in value lost. It will go down even more. | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8494 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
kathalu seppamaku sami. Guri, Basel3 requirements compare cheyyi Basel 2 tho (which was drafted to aid US to borrow more) u will how the world banks have gotten back to pre basel days in terms of its stat cap....required....... The fact is that the banking system here is now run by the arabs .....even if it hurts us...thats the truth | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17389 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
obama was the man with the intesions atleast to correct this country...lost his chance when he had it....house and senate lo majority vunnappudu health care with public option, banking reform chesundalsindhi....he didn't have the guts then...koncham dhairyam tecchukune time ki punya kalam gadichipoyindhi. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 17251 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
naa meaning ide.. bank stock hold chestunnavalu andaru nakestunnaru.. wfc 34 nunchi 25 ki vochesindi.. 30% bokka ghoram.. inka citi ane boku bank gurinchi enta takkuva talking cheste anta manchidi.. last 4 yrs chuste daani stock price avg.3.3 untaadi emo.. OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 5329 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
konchem "out there" untayi, you have tot ake themm with a grain of salt | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17388 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
salaries and bonuses kuda book adjustments antava? kathalu seppamaku sami. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 5328 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
banks, fed prapancham mothhaniki pedda daadha lu anta or at least western world ki | ||
| Jacksparrow Side Hero Username: Jacksparrow Post Number: 3967 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 195.212.29.67 Rating: N/A |
eedi p/e 2000 anta... emi kharma ra saami... | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17387 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
kaneesam with in a system things are not right....biggest jump in students is at technical schools....record number of students enroll avuthunnaru...but sad thing is even though this trend has been for the past 3-4 yrs...not even a single new faculty hired..ante 3 yrs back 2 full time vunte ee roju kuda anthe vunnaru.....but the coffers of the schools getting full....school presidents, management feople like dean bongu boshanam salaries are soring yr after yr...intha anyayama. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8493 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
yeppudu chudani profits chusthunnaru. Guri ever heard the name book adjustments......US banks have been in bad shape per international capital standards from 2002...just that they beleived that they are above the rest while its govt was happily borrowing money from the Arabs and chinese for them on good will... | ||
| Jupiter Junior Artist Username: Jupiter Post Number: 208 Registered: 05-2011 Posted From: 173.39.70.18 Rating: N/A |
plz .. maa boche lo rallu eyakandi .. edho kasta padi india lo gattekkutunnam .. ikkada unemployment penchakandi .. every year 25L people are graduating for IT jobs already ... | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 17386 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.80.156.241 Rating: N/A |
banks kemi bemmandanga vunnayi....yeppudu chudani profits chusthunnaru....sanka nakuthundhi common man.....republicans are the 4th pace of acis of eeeevil ani church lo vuuge vulfa nayallu telusukonantha varaku anthe. JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 13309 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 193.47.71.253 Rating: N/A |
der next 30 years gold yugam ani j kurrod ante nammale...worstestest lo worst better ani kurrod meaning emo JAgan walla evadu nastapole wadikunna kodhi pati telivi right way lo invest chesadu - gootle guruji (for more fun...see his post 140008) | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8492 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
Getafix, Nobel prize in economics...priceton honorary prof...the first guy to predict that real estate will go bust way back in 2003....he exactlyu predicted the year too | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 17250 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
eto ee thokkalo economy gola.. hayiga barter system etukunte best.. recession ayi inka 1 yr ayindi malli naa.. ee sari voste.. US economy motham naakestaadi.. Ind povadam best.. banks ayite mari worst ga perform chestunnayi..thuuu OT's own dialog: Pativrate kaani, gokite vastundi | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8491 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
pavala...bottomline okkate..pagilindhi manandhariki...India lo unte best ee next 5 years....better employment stability | ||
| Getafix Side Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 8670 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.127.66.112 Rating: N/A |
Ye krugman annadi? The world is flat raasina Krugman aa? aa saaru ayithe idhivaraku kuda chala sarlu annadu.. | ||
| Ashton Hero Username: Ashton Post Number: 11909 Registered: 05-2008 Posted From: 64.20.45.178 Rating: N/A |
Next year emanna hope vundochu if Obama quits. | ||
| Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 13308 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 193.47.71.253 Rating: N/A |
der gootle bottomline ettu ante evevo posting esthaaventi...thu JAgan walla evadu nastapole wadikunna kodhi pati telivi right way lo invest chesadu - gootle guruji (for more fun...see his post 140008) | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8490 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
China now owns or hold major stakes 60% of all gold production in the world....last year China muscled out Australia and France from East and west africa to buy all the Gold and diamond mines...the way china is moving is just alarming....no propoganda and hype like that of US...they are just buying the world outright...... Chinese govt now has passed a rule that Housing and real estate will be Govt monitored...China is the best real estate market for the last 10 years with out the hyper inflation observed in India | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13513 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
link padeyyi..WSJ lona ? Also did you read about BRIC countries wanting to trade in their own currencies..when they are trading against each other..that will be a big turning point...I am sure | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8489 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
seems they are diversifying there idiosyncratic risk.......very reapidly.....Krugman says if I were a wise Chinese official I would not lend to US any more and that is exactly what happened from 2008...China cut its new business with US and started grwoing its trade with India... "China is now officially India's largest trading partner...not US...and the trade btw 2 countries is growing at the rate of 120% every year....on the same footing, China's trade with australia, africa and europe(respectively) is growing at the rate of 25% every year as opposed to 2% with US whcih is just inflation and Fx adjusted 0%...." | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13512 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
aa link maa mohana padesthe sadivi pedtham kada | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 5326 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
evo secret project anta, gold standard currency anta avi jarakkapote economy collapse anta evevo nadustunnayi blog world lo. | ||
| Dreamcatcher Comedian Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 1849 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
idi etta tammi? China depends hugely on exports to US. China lends gazillions to US. If US economy m's ante, most impact China ke kada? | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 14689 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
idhi for sure...linkedin, groupon kee IPOs eti...kamedy kakapothay | ||
| Rajusk Hero Username: Rajusk Post Number: 13511 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.234.99.10 Rating: N/A |
butta sarduko..Jai Botsa anu..Sikakulam lo project kottu..US ki vacation ki ra pillalatho Disney World ki....adi saaramsam | ||
| Pavala Hero Username: Pavala Post Number: 13307 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 193.47.71.253 Rating: N/A |
der tamud ivannee mana mettpalem ki ekkav..bottomline ettu... JAgan walla evadu nastapole wadikunna kodhi pati telivi right way lo invest chesadu - gootle guruji (for more fun...see his post 140008) | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8486 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
"kiki we need a new wolrd super power and its clear who it is...china should lead the way for a new economic order...europe is dead economically...there is no hope there...US might present a last glimmer of hope but the way the administrators have handled it, it is going to be very difficult....If I were a normal american citizen, I will start learning mandarin and get my kids proficient at that" | ||
| Der_schuler Side Hero Username: Der_schuler Post Number: 8485 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 38.106.198.17 Rating: N/A |
ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......this is a sour pill...kummutunnadu That US consumption drives world economy is a myth that has been busted in 2007 and if people still live in that dream, its going to be hard for them. China now is more or less 80% insular to the US economy....the great risk divestiture they did in the last 3 years is a lesson to excesses of the western world The first bubble of 2012 will be the social networking bubble. There will large spread IT unemployment in the states for the coming 3 years The recovery of this economy is going to be the most painful ever witnessed.....2012 is actually going to be worst economic year in the history of US...jobless ratio will be around 20%...... There is no way in which US can reduce its deficit in the next 15 years...we have gone too far in the wrong directions..... At present if there is any traction in the world economy it is from S.Asia and this will be the fact for atleast the next 10 years..... Us workforce not simply equipped to compete with global pressure exerted by Japan, China and India in terms of work rate output. |
