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ippudu vunna forces thone sachi pothunnam...denamma inko force aa
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Jujung:

the contention that he developed any charisma by virtue of being CM is ridiculous as seen by the immediate elections after the first term.. antha superstar, charismatic guy can't even keep his post ante we can see how much positive image (from movies) he lost during his first term itself..





lol......politics lo charisma lekapothe1989 ki mundhu jarigina local elections ela gelichadu.......NTR ni debba gottadaniki congress mafia nana gaddi karisi prajala madhya vidweshalu penchi partial ga success ayyindhi......NTR is the only leader in andhra who decisively changed the state and considerably influenced national politics....anthaku mundhu bihar kante ghoram andhra
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Leader movie laga okka leader anni marcheyali anukunte elaga? IT happens only in the movies.

Cadre, and local leadership is the mantra. And LSP is moving exactly in this direction.
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Jujung

"vachina one year lo inkodu mosam chesadani cheppi elections pettesthe, adi 2nd term ani count vesukunnava saami.. ayyagari charisma teliyataaniki janaalki oka 5 yrs time anna ivvaddaa..."

What are you trying to proove? NTR 1989 lo odipovatame nee problem ayithe 1983 nundi 1994 varaku jarigina Maximum elections (MLA, MP, MANDAL etc) lo resounding majorities tho TDP gelichindi....avanni yevari lekkalo vesthav?
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maatallevanthe..common man antey, early morning 5 ki arati gelalu cycle meeda eskoni bhayanak highways meeda thokkutha poyevadu..vadi get-up JP get-up same aa..

JP ni evadaina illiterate chuste, eeyanatho manakenduku ochina godava le anukuntaru avuna?




City lo common man nundi, villages lo farmers daka shirt pant vesukuntunaru. Old ppl thappa panchelu evaru kadutunnaru. Dawood ibrahim khaddar vesi poti chesthe ok na?

Asalu manishi dress choosi mathrame janalu attract ayye politics enduku manaki? Adey path follow aithe JP enduku manaki?

Jp_rocks:

how is LS publicizing kukatpally's progress?? pamphlets or posters or other campaigns? iam not aware of any such publicity




all of the above. Slow gaa local media lo kooda vastondi, monna thread vesa choodaleda?

Jp_rocks:

also, districts ki ekkada eltunnadu JP? atleast main centers ki elli educate cheyali...ee jagan type fake candidates edokati try chestunnaru, JP ki enti??




Monnane raithu yathta chesadu. Farmers ni kalisi, valla problems ki solutions meeda educate chesadu. He covered many districts. And he got results too.
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Indiarocks:

JP's attire is closer to the common man.


maatallevanthe..common man antey, early morning 5 ki arati gelalu cycle meeda eskoni bhayanak highways meeda thokkutha poyevadu..vadi get-up JP get-up same aa..

JP ni evadaina illiterate chuste, eeyanatho manakenduku ochina godava le anukuntaru avuna?

Indiarocks:

Doing it already.


how is LS publicizing kukatpally's progress?? pamphlets or posters or other campaigns? iam not aware of any such publicity

also, districts ki ekkada eltunnadu JP? atleast main centers ki elli educate cheyali...ee jagan type fake candidates edokati try chestunnaru, JP ki enti??
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Jp_rocks:

classic example MODI..janalaki artham ayye bhasha lo cheppadu, neggadu..ippudu chudu gujarath range..




MODI politics loki vachina eni yrs ki CM stage ki vachadu?

I can understand your frustration bro. Kaani janalaki abaddalu cheppi, gimmicks chesi power loki vachey inkoka YSR kaadu solution. Alanti vatiki aayana putra rathram unnadu.

JP, LSP is doing all they can to get to masses. Only difference manaki appanam gaa vachina sommulu levu news paper front page lo veyinchukodaniki.

Kinda post lo chesina information antha Vizianagaram local leaders achieve chesinde. Front page lo ranantha mathrana akkada janalu choodara work ni?
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NTR back to back 2 times elections loo gelicharu.. eeda nunchi vasthar saami



vachina one year lo inkodu mosam chesadani cheppi elections pettesthe, adi 2nd term ani count vesukunnava saami.. ayyagari charisma teliyataaniki janaalki oka 5 yrs time anna ivvaddaa...
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Indiarocks:

First line thappa migatha lines lo nuvvu cheppindi YSR janala weakness ni exploit chesadu ani. And you have respect for him, for doing that? Self contradictory gaa ledu?


respect vere selfish reasons ki....but yes janala weakness ni cash cheskovali, to help them..alage undi desam lo situation....classic example MODI..janalaki artham ayye bhasha lo cheppadu, neggadu..ippudu chudu gujarath range..

u have to talk their language bro.....weakness ni exploit cheyanide vallu vote eyaru..as simple as that..they don't know any better..
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samyavanam paatinchandi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd3yKwT2Yyk
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An example of local leadership in Vizianagaram. EE kinda ichina points anni local news papers lo vachayi. Adey appanam gaa dobbi thinna sommulu unte ivey front page lo veyinchukovachu.


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Urban bank liquidation:

* The money of 21,700 depositors was at risk due to the liquidation of Co-operative Urban Bank (Vizianagaram). We organized the depositors, held two public meetings with all of them in attendance and made a joint representation to the Reserve Bank of India. The final outcome was a notice from the Governor of the RBI releasing 7 crore to be returned to the depositors. See [1].

Anti-Corruption:

* We uncovered corruption to the tune of 12 crore in land allocation for Zindal aluminum factory in Srungavarapu Kota mandal and led an agitation demanding an ACB enquiry. However, since the inquiry was poorly conducted and totally unsatisfactory, Lok Satta appointed a 5 man committee to investigate the same. The committee’s findings were submitted to the Lok Ayukta, which has now accepted our petition for a thorough inquiry and action. See [1][2][3]
* We examined the records of all SC/ST/BC hostels in Vizianagaram and publicly released the information on the funds being allocated to them and level of corruption involved.
* We are conducting several anti-corruption demonstrations demanding for action and also to motivate the public to raise their voice against this menace. Several anti-corruption seminars have been conducted, especially targeted at the youth. See [1].

Farmer problems:

* In Mokasu Kothavalasa village of Jami mandal, over a period of 40 years, forged certificates of land ownership were issued to 200 farmers for 1100 acres. All local leaders of one particular party were part of this. We led the 200 farmers to the district collector’s office and advised the R.D.O. of this affair. As result, a fresh land survey was conducted to establish correct ownership of lands and fresh ‘D’ pattas are being issued to the right persons.
* We are co-ordinating an agitation for a fair price for sugarcane farmers. This involves rallies, dharnas, meetings and representations to government officials at various levels. See [1].

Liquor problem:

* Out of the 700 panchayats in the district, we have completely eliminated belt shops (illegal liquor outlets) in about 60 panchayats. This was achieved through a vigorous campaign. See [1] [2]

Environment:

* A big movement was organized in collaboration with all N.G.O.s, political parties and public against use of plastic covers and other environmentally harmful material. After a meeting with District level officers, a total ban on use of plastic is being introduced. See [1]

Others:

* 47 DMHO second grade staff were not given permanent jobs even though they were in service for the past 30 years. We represented them to the Government and got them regularized.
* In 8 wards, we found the discrepancies and manipulations in voter lists and corrected them.
* We have contested in all regional elections in the last two years, which no other party has done.
* We have probed and agitated against irregularities in the National Rural Employment Guarantee Scheme (NREGS). See [1]


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Jp_rocks:

keyyvalam janaala METTATHVAM valla ilanti leaders pabbam gadupukuntunnaru




bedar janala meedha mee abhiprayam chala tappu...invincible anukunna vaanni vongo pettaru..people vote by looking at their lives..not looking at books...orissa tesuko...mAajority tribals...they know is the the better of the lot...bemmandanga state ki naveen ki vesaru...central ki congress ki vesaru...don't demean voters....vote yesevaallu jevetham nunchi nerchukuntaru...pusthakalu sussi I know all anukunnodu life lo success avuthadani ledhu....rest nee opinion on voters....got to go..GN.
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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Jujung:

he developed any charisma by virtue of being CM is ridiculous as seen by the immediate elections after the first term..




NTR back to back 2 times elections loo gelicharu.. eeda nunchi vasthar saami
gootle annai on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 02:35 pm: Inti compound lo YSR vigraham ettukunadu oka kurrodu krishna dist lo 50 lks worth kurrodiki YSR tho sambandam ledhu poni minster ga MLA ga chesada ante adhi ledhu ..elanti abhimanulu state lo sampadinchina only one leader YSR...
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I have a gr8 respect towards YSR....but mana janalu illiterate and barrelu kabatteyy aayana CM ayyadu..

like leader lo oka dialog untundi...maruthi rao di...janalaki expectations levu, vallani manam alagey unchali ani..

YSR lanti leader aa funda ni maximum exploit chesaru......if a LEADER is really concerned abt the future of the state, he wouldn't allow so much of corruption in the state..he wouldn't bestow boons to ppl (free current, arogya sree n other shixt) like he were a goddamn diety

keyyvalam janaala METTATHVAM valla ilanti leaders pabbam gadupukuntunnaru




First line thappa migatha lines lo nuvvu cheppindi YSR janala weakness ni exploit chesadu ani. And you have respect for him, for doing that? Self contradictory gaa ledu?
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There are only 2 leaders that have charisma and political brains, NTR and YSR. period.




Please tell me this is a joke.
NTR cinema superstar.. araadhya daivam etc etc.. after 30 years of center-run congress rule, eeyana pettina party odithe vintha kaani gelisthe vintha emundi.. the contention that he developed any charisma by virtue of being CM is ridiculous as seen by the immediate elections after the first term.. antha superstar, charismatic guy can't even keep his post ante we can see how much positive image (from movies) he lost during his first term itself..

YSR was in politics for 20 years before he became CM.. that too after farmers vexed with 10 years of another party ruling.. and with the organizational support of a national party like congress.. anti-incumbency factor and existing organization thodaithe congress gelichindi 1999 lo.. his "charisma" after 20 years in politics was to the extent that he became the sole choice in his party at that time.. aa tharvatha janaala sommu 20% thini migathadi adedo aayana sontha aasthi annattu daanam chesesthe malli gelichadu.. (prp played a big role in this by splitting opposition).. anukoni chaavu leni charisma ni antagattindi..
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happiness ki misery ki teda teleeni janalaki praja seva, marathon lantivi em artham avutai?? ala expect cheyadam mana stupidity




Annai, to be honest, below poverty line unna vallu are much better than middle class and upper middle class.

Last few yrs lo LSP cadre within farmers, BPL sections vipareetham gaa perigindi. Eenadu lo raledu ani, sakshi lo raledu ani em cheyatledu anukunte elaga? Not just JP, districts lo excellent work chestunna vallu unnaru.
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I have a gr8 respect towards YSR....but mana janalu illiterate and barrelu kabatteyy aayana CM ayyadu..

like leader lo oka dialog untundi...maruthi rao di...janalaki expectations levu, vallani manam alagey unchali ani..

YSR lanti leader aa funda ni maximum exploit chesaru......if a LEADER is really concerned abt the future of the state, he wouldn't allow so much of corruption in the state..he wouldn't bestow boons to ppl (free current, arogya sree n other shixt) like he were a goddamn diety

keyyvalam janaala METTATHVAM valla ilanti leaders pabbam gadupukuntunnaru
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1) change the freaking attire..he's not contesting for a senator post in the US

Endukule annai, khaddar ante corrupt politician ani peru vachesindi. JP's attire is closer to the common man. Repu dawood ibrahim khaddar veskoni poti chestadu, janalu adi choosi vote veseyala. Give him a chance to show that its not the attire, or dress that matters.
2) educate the masses by visiting every district
Doing it already.
3) advertise what he has done to kukatpally (don't tell me to logon to loksatta.org)
Doing it already.
4) get the support of wealthy, influential and non-corrupt individuals like RATTAYYA...or someone else..spend money and gather masses...

Gather masses ante enti?. LSP cadre vipareetham gaa perigindi even in rural areas. Ivanni pracharam cheskovadaniki maaku oka corrupt CM thandri ledu.

5) barrelaki english lo EXCUSE ME, I BEG UR PARDON ante thappukovu....laagi kotti drr drrr antey side avutayi..same with illiterate/labor ppl...aallaki oka biryani potlam/mandu padeste cheppedi vinadaniki ostaru..vallaki adeyy artham ayye bhasha....sabha ki ochaka CBN/YSR lanti v v dry speeches ye musukuni vinevaru, JP speeches vinara? blood boil avuddi vallaki
6) maintain contact with the cadre and repeat the blood boiling exercise before elections..




To be honest, labor chala better gaa unnaru. Middle class, upper middle class ye vote veyadaniki kooda ollu balisi unnaru. JP ki last election campaign kosam roju kooli lo donate chesina labor unnaru. LSP ichina training tho chinna jobs techukuni life ni build cheskuntunna electricians, security ppl enthomandi unnaru.
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desam lo 75% janalaki oka german shepherd ki unde IQ undadu




janala meedha intha neechamayina cheapt impression vunte leader avvadam kalla....people...common man is very...very..very smart ani telusukovadam is politics 101.
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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Indiarocks:

Ppl ki walking marathons ki, nijamina praja seva ki difference teliyali. Adi teliyakapothe andaru walking champions ye autharu, nijamga prajalaki seva chesevallu raaru.


BROTHER, niku naku telsu what is black, what is white ani....desam lo 75% janalaki oka german shepherd ki unde IQ undadu....happiness ki misery ki teda teleeni janalaki praja seva, marathon lantivi em artham avutai?? ala expect cheyadam mana stupidity
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CBN, YSR, KCR< Chiru la Force avvali ane politics kaadu JP chesedi. Ayanaki unna respect chadathamo, differento evo konnitiki stick ayyadu kabatti.
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Indiarocks:

Obama kurrod election pracharam appude tirigadu. Elect ayyaka velli pani choosukunnadu




nuvvu sulledemo..thanu cheyyali anukunna health care reform kosam desam mottham tirigadu....town hall meetings gatra....tella medalo kukoni jajjinaka janare tatleyyaledhu....so pepanchakam lo medhavi ani anukune vadiki kursi isthe all set antav...atuvanti medhavule......prapancha arthika paristhithi ni nasanam sesindhi your honour...mundhu leader ki meurocrat ki theda telsuko malli matladocchu...kiki
JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE
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first of all, aa get-up marchali....atleast khaddaru like bob eyali..tuck cheyyoddani cheppu if possible..

maaanchi get up tho (it could be khaddar/panche kanduva get-up) paada yatra 23 districts cheste, enduku vinaru JP maatalu? he's the BEST orator in the circuit..

so far i could think of the following to garner mass support:

1) change the freaking attire..he's not contesting for a senator post in the US
2) educate the masses by visiting every district
3) advertise what he has done to kukatpally (don't tell me to logon to loksatta.org)
4) get the support of wealthy, influential and non-corrupt individuals like RATTAYYA...or someone else..spend money and gather masses...
5) barrelaki english lo EXCUSE ME, I BEG UR PARDON ante thappukovu....laagi kotti drr drrr antey side avutayi..same with illiterate/labor ppl...aallaki oka biryani potlam/mandu padeste cheppedi vinadaniki ostaru..vallaki adeyy artham ayye bhasha....sabha ki ochaka CBN/YSR lanti v v dry speeches ye musukuni vinevaru, JP speeches vinara? blood boil avuddi vallaki
6) maintain contact with the cadre and repeat the blood boiling exercise before elections..

ivanni cheste min 20 seats aina ostai....
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ippudu YSR inko gandhi antava enti kompateesi?




gandi anakapoyina...prajallo tirigi leader ayina vadu nenu tuk sesukunna...ac lo kukoni baga matladatha...nannu cm setthe nennetha potugadno supedatha ane tyfu...medhavi maatram kaadhu...like our cotton eistein....kiki


economics lo nobel vacchina vadini president setthe kummetthara.....jai pathal gorre..



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avunu paapam obama ki kuda vaalla kenya nayana anni samakurchi poyadu...anduke gelisadu.....ila dlms seppukuntu gadapalsindhe....




Obama kurrod election pracharam appude tirigadu. Elect ayyaka velli pani choosukunnadu. MLA gaa elect ayyaka MLA gaa pani cheyali, election pracharam kaadu.

Aina ee difference teliste manaki chempaki chempa program undedi kaadu.
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Kakapothe thandri ichina oka news paper, news channel levu manaki, front page lo veskotaniki.





avunu paapam obama ki kuda vaalla kenya nayana anni samakurchi poyadu...anduke gelisadu.....ila dlms seppukuntu gadapalsindhe....


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paapam antha naledge leka gandhi lanti vadu kuda aa rojullo..prajala kosal desam mottham tirigadu....jp goru and pans antha vinteligent kaadhu.....what a pity...




ippudu YSR inko gandhi antava enti kompateesi?

Gandhi ki MLA aney oka position ledu vayya, anduke tiragali. MLA ane position ichi, assembly ki pampindi sneakers veskuni walking practice cheyamani kaadu.

Ee vishayam teliste mee Jagan kurrod okka rojina parliament ki velleyvadu chempalu pisukkokunda.
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Indiarocks - Rockyworld has a point....JP needs to do SOMETHING to gather the support of masses..so far his maximum effort was a train yatra..that was nothing when compared to what YSR did..

JP needs to take a leaf out of YSR and prolly attempt a similar paada yatra educating people..JP could do that 10,000 times better than YSR......

cheyyali basu edokati.....monna dippa meeda kottinchukunna tarvata, he should've capitalized that moment and should've done something...hardcore tdp/congee gallu kuda sympathize ayyaru JP tho appudu..what did he do?? nothing..

he NEEDS to pitch in when the time is RIPE..he's not doing that....he's wasting himself




Ppl ki walking marathons ki, nijamina praja seva ki difference teliyali. Adi teliyakapothe andaru walking champions ye autharu, nijamga prajalaki seva chesevallu raaru.

Janalu idey mindset tho unte, manaki YSR lu, chempalu pisike jagan le migulutharu.

Inka meeting the masses. JP is doing this already, better than anybody else in the state. Kakapothe thandri ichina oka news paper, news channel levu manaki, front page lo veskotaniki.
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Aunle ee question adiganu gaa




abboooo antha manchi question adiganani feel ayipothunnava....LOL....LOL
nee lekkalo ye bernanki gadino...lekunte inko universitylo ooo salahalu/hypothesis lu seppukune talaki masina professorno pallakilo mosukocchi presidents gatra seyyali....paapam antha naledge leka gandhi lanti vadu kuda aa rojullo..prajala kosal desam mottham tirigadu....jp goru and pans antha vinteligent kaadhu.....what a pity...


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Indiarocks - Rockyworld has a point....JP needs to do SOMETHING to gather the support of masses..so far his maximum effort was a train yatra..that was nothing when compared to what YSR did..

JP needs to take a leaf out of YSR and prolly attempt a similar paada yatra educating people..JP could do that 10,000 times better than YSR......

cheyyali basu edokati.....monna dippa meeda kottinchukunna tarvata, he should've capitalized that moment and should've done something...hardcore tdp/congee gallu kuda sympathize ayyaru JP tho appudu..what did he do?? nothing..

he NEEDS to pitch in when the time is RIPE..he's not doing that....he's wasting himself
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Guriginja:

nee logic susi kiki anatam tappa sesedhi ledhu..nee logics tho continue...kiki




Aunle ee question adiganu gaa

Indiarocks:

CM ayye mundu close to 30yrs unnadu politics lo YSR. JP chesina panullo 10% chesada? YSR valla okkati ante okkati vachina change system lo?




anduke jump..kiki
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. By your theory olympians are the best leaders...kiki...




nee logic susi kiki anatam tappa sesedhi ledhu..nee logics tho continue...kiki
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if advicing the govt is what you want to do just do that....medhavulaki prabuthvalu gavuravam ishtayi..sevalu aa route lo vupayoginchukuntayi......yeto telsukoleka...vundalsina sotu vundaga..janalni blame seyyadam yenduku..yevadni yennukovalo teleedhu ani?




Daanni advising antaro, poratam antaro evaristam valladi. End result is important, and he made difference.

Oka 100km nadustadu allow chestunda Govt. cotton exports. Alage inko 100km nadustadu rice ki price penchutunda? Mee jagan kurrod 1 week fasting chesi em peekalekapoyadu enduku mari?
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you want to be a leader become one by working hard.




Working hard ante 1000s KM nadavatam kaadu. By your theory olympians are the best leaders...kiki...

CM ayye mundu close to 30yrs unnadu politics lo YSR. JP chesina panullo 10% chesada? YSR valla okkati ante okkati vachina change system lo?

Malli manaki freedom struggle theraga dorikindi prathi daniki.
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Only bcoz of JP's efforts the center ignored Guddod's (karunanidhi) suggestion that cotton exports be banned totally.

Cotton farmer state motham unnaru adi micro issue aa?




if advicing the govt is what you want to do just do that....medhavulaki prabuthvalu gavuravam ishtayi..sevalu aa route lo vupayoginchukuntayi......yeto telsukoleka...vundalsina sotu vundaga..janalni blame seyyadam yenduku..yevadni yennukovalo teleedhu ani?
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charisma develop avvali ante em cheyali, oka 100km marathon nadavala, oka 30days fasting cheyala, leka veena step nerchukovala?




tussi gr8 hooo IRR..i love u :-)
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YSR made politics a test of physical endurance.

LMAO at that.




not just YSR...yenni yrs venakki veladam..50yrs podama...freedom fight time ki veldama...leader..prajallo continuous ga mamekam ayithene leader avutharu...yevvarayina anthe...ye desamayina anthe...adhi cheyyaleni....vurlo settu arugu meedha kaburlu cheppe vaallaki lekkaledhu...prathi vurlo...dozens dozens dorukutharu...this is good...this is bad ani cheppadanini...you want to be a leader become one by working hard....intlo kukunte yevvadu moyadu..intikocchi pallaki yekkinchukoni..veedokkade potugadu ani vuregimpuga teesukellaru...period.
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Only bcoz of JP's efforts the center ignored Guddod's (karunanidhi) suggestion that cotton exports be banned totally.

Cotton farmer state motham unnaru adi micro issue aa?
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He is working more on micro issues




Annai asalu em type chestunnavo artham autunda neeku aina.

Rice exports ante affects farmers in the whole state. International exports ante affects the whole country. Adi micro issue na.

A review of the process in granting ports, ante micro issue na, it affects the system.

Alage, anti-corruption bill ante micro issue naa?

Asalemanna artham unda nee matalaki?
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JP can not work hard like other politicians...YSR ni chusav ga...he worked his ass off...5:00 ki lesthe mukyanga elections time lo ayithe night 12:00, 1:00, migilina times lo kuda anthe yeppudu aa tour ..ee tour...assembly vunte tappa hyd lo vunde vadu kaadhu...samething with CBN also..but JP..vudyogam vadilesi inni yrs ayina kuda 9:00 to 5:00 jo lekka feel avuthadu alane work chesthadu....atuvanti vaallu politics lo yekkada vesina gongali annattu alane vuntaru....10yrs nunchi janallo nanuthunna he is nowhere...naaku avakasam isthe chestha anukuntademo...janalu eena intikelli pilavala...obama chudu...2yrs lo anni aresukoni tirigi janalaki dagarayyadu..aa kasi vuntene leader...lekunte puri box...9:00 to 5: job....trim tuk...tv talk...ala sagipovadame.




YSR made politics a test of physical endurance.

LMAO at that.
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First of all nuvvu eduti vadiki konchem respect ichi post cheyyi.

Tell me what he tried so far to get mass image? He needs to some things to do that. He has never done that. His speeches are not emotional rather like lectures. He never connects with the common people.




JP can not work hard like other politicians...YSR ni chusav ga...he worked his ass off...5:00 ki lesthe mukyanga elections time lo ayithe night 12:00, 1:00, migilina times lo kuda anthe yeppudu aa tour ..ee tour...assembly vunte tappa hyd lo vunde vadu kaadhu...samething with CBN also..but JP..vudyogam vadilesi inni yrs ayina kuda 9:00 to 5:00 jo lekka feel avuthadu alane work chesthadu....atuvanti vaallu politics lo yekkada vesina gongali annattu alane vuntaru....10yrs nunchi janallo nanuthunna he is nowhere...naaku avakasam isthe chestha anukuntademo...janalu eena intikelli pilavala...obama chudu...2yrs lo anni aresukoni tirigi janalaki dagarayyadu..aa kasi vuntene leader...lekunte puri box...9:00 to 5: job....trim tuk...tv talk...ala sagipovadame.
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You have totally missed my point. He is working more on micro issues. We expect JP to be a state leader but not confined to a specific place or people.

We need a leader who can bring change in the system.
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I am not even including the work he accomplished in Kukatpally.
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Only after JP raised the issue in parliament.




assembly ani chaduvuko.
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But if he takes up a real genuine issue and fights for that.




Dude you are going back again to the same point. JP is the only MLA fighting on real and genuine issues. To name a few.

1. BPT rice ki sarina price leka, rice export cheskoleka farmers paristiti ghoram gaa undi. JP took up the issue and got GO released to allow rice exports. Central level lo kooda export permission teesukochadu. Padayathra cheste ee panulu authaya?

2. Yes'day, or day before, coast lands, and port land allocation ni restudy chestamu, daniki separate commission vestamu ani vachindi. Only after JP raised the issue in parliament.

3. 2009 floods vaste andaru buradalo photolu digaru. LSP only took 3 villages, built a school in one, a mineral water plant in the second, and a small scale project in the third.

The problem is you should put in any effort to educate yourself bfore you say that JP is not meeting with ppl, or not fighting on issues.
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Oka vishayam cheppali..

Praja poratam anedi prajala jeevitham lo maarpu thevali, edina issue ni fix cheyali. Oka 1000km nadisthe, okka issue solve autunda? What is the use of such an effort if it does not bring any change in the lives of ppl. JP thana popularity penchukovali ante nadavali, but that is not what he is after.

We already have many ppl who are doing that. What is the use of JP then?





I agree. But if he takes up a real genuine issue and fights for that. if you see historically, how ordinary people became charismatic leaders? Only that way.

Or play some dramas (I mean it). Say I am going to live in a slum area for 1 month to understand their probs. ETc.
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Oka vishayam cheppali..

Praja poratam anedi prajala jeevitham lo maarpu thevali, edina issue ni fix cheyali. Oka 1000km nadisthe, okka issue solve autunda? What is the use of such an effort if it does not bring any change in the lives of ppl. JP thana popularity penchukovali ante nadavali, but that is not what he is after.

We already have many ppl who are doing that. What is the use of JP then?
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Senapathy:

That process will endear you to masses.. Adey YSR bramhastram..




It will change the faces in power, it will not solve issues.

Adey pani cheyali ante daniki Jagan unnadu. JP enduku?

We do not need another YSR, we need somebody different.

Leader is somebody who shows the right path, not the one who follows ppl.

JP kooda kavalsina appudu yathra chesadu, but with a purpose, to meet farmers, and get them a good price.
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That process will endear you to masses.. Adey YSR bramhastram..




Exactly. Do whatever is required.
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1000km marathon ki ppls issues ki




That process will endear you to masses.. Adey YSR bramhastram..
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Rockyworld:

Probably he needs to identify issues and fight for the people.



What makes you think he is not doing this now? JP has better knowledge on ppls issues than many in the whole of India. And he is fighting more than many in India.


1000km marathon ki ppls issues ki, fight ki relation enti? Will it solve even one issue?


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Aithey JP can never be a force any title enduk ettav.. ujless




I said he can be but did not say he will be.

He can be if he realizes this.
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Probably he needs to identify issues and fight for the people.




IMO, he knows the problems with the people better than the current crop of MLA's

He worked as a bureaucrat and is well informed about where to look for the problems. Assembly lo pages pages reports pattukoni matladatadu, giving facts about current state of affairs. Migitha MLA's andaru sollooo sollu..
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Probably he needs to identify issues and fight for the people.




What makes you think he is not doing this now? JP has better knowledge on ppls issues than many in the whole of India. And he is fighting more than many in India.


1000km marathon ki ppls issues ki, fight ki relation enti? Will it solve even one issue?
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Rockyworld:

He can grow as a mass leader.





Rockyworld:

He is a smart guy and he can do that.




Aithey JP can never be a force any title enduk ettav.. ujless :-)
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Indiarocks:

Aithe enti ippudu JP kooda oka 1000km marathon nadavala? Charisma ravali ante em cheyali?




Absolutely. He needs to spend more time with people. Probably he needs to identify issues and fight for the people.

If JP remains as MLA forever, emiti vupayogam?
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That is wrong. He can grow as a mass leader. YSR had that, he got it through his yatra with popular issues.

We should not be living in self-denial. We need to comprehend our short comings and try working on that. He is a smart guy and he can do that.




Aithe enti ippudu JP kooda oka 1000km marathon nadavala? Charisma ravali ante em cheyali?
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Senapathy:

U answered ur own point.. Masses need daivam roles and veena steps. Not for intellectuals. The problem is not of JP, but of the crowds




That is wrong. He can grow as a mass leader. YSR had that, he got it through his yatra with popular issues.

We should not be living in self-denial. We need to comprehend our short comings and try working on that. He is a smart guy and he can do that.
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influencing masses




U answered ur own point.. Masses need daivam roles and veena steps. Not for intellectuals. The problem is not of JP, but of the crowds
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But whether that substance is influencing masses or not?




point miss ayyindi nenu kaadu. JP ki unna following antha speeches valana vachinde. Masses lo following unda leda choodali ante out of Eenadu chooda galagali.

Inthaki ippudu JP charisma peragali ante em cheyali?
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Political speech ante thoda kottadam, janalani oopatam kaadu. Aalochimpacheyali.

FYI, NTR ki as an actor, Chiru as an actor, as the son-in-law of NTR, YSR ki publicity gimmicks like padayathra veetito vachindi following.

Mari JP ki, only on what he talks, and what he does. So evari speeches lo ekkuva substance undi?




You are totally missing the point.

No body questioned the substance in his speeches. But whether that substance is influencing masses or not?
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FYI, NTR ki as an actor, Chiru as an actor, CBNas the son-in-law of NTR, YSR ki publicity gimmicks like padayathra veetito vachindi following.


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Ikkada nee respect ki vachina thakkuva enti.

Daggara nundi choosinatlu statement ichavu, anduke adiganu nuvvelli choosava ani.




In stead of asking me questions, tell me what he did to enhance his mass image?

I am penning down this with pain. A good leader got to be charismatic to be able to successful. We are in dearth of good leaders, and I think JP's efforts will be futile if he does not reach to masses.
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His speeches are not emotional




Political speech ante thoda kottadam, janalani oopatam kaadu. Aalochimpacheyali.

FYI, NTR ki as an actor, Chiru as an actor, as the son-in-law of NTR, YSR ki publicity gimmicks like padayathra veetito vachindi following.

Mari JP ki, only on what he talks, and what he does. So evari speeches lo ekkuva substance undi?
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Mass image avasaram emundi?
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First of all nuvvu eduti vadiki konchem respect ichi post cheyyi.




Ikkada nee respect ki vachina thakkuva enti.

Daggara nundi choosinatlu statement ichavu, anduke adiganu nuvvelli choosava ani.
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Indiarocks:

charisma develop avvali ante em cheyali, oka 100km marathon nadavala, oka 30days fasting cheyala, leka veena step nerchukovala?




Babu IR

First of all nuvvu eduti vadiki konchem respect ichi post cheyyi.

Tell me what he tried so far to get mass image? He needs to some things to do that. He has never done that. His speeches are not emotional rather like lectures. He never connects with the common people.
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charisma develop avvali ante em cheyali, oka 100km marathon nadavala, oka 30days fasting cheyala, leka veena step nerchukovala?
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Rockyworld:

JP lanti brains vunna and charisma leni leader, take opportunities or create opportunities to become a mass leader. His target audience is not masses rather middle class and educated.




nuvvu velli choosochava JP target enti ani. Enni rojulu thirigavu JP tho paatu Jp target evaru cheptunavu?
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JP lanti brains vunna and charisma leni leader, take opportunities or create opportunities to become a mass leader. His target audience is not masses rather middle class and educated.
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ysr ki vunna political brain is too much .but only problem is he is not having the intention of doing good to the people .
he destroyed the system .

too bad .
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This is 100% true. JP does not have charisma. He is also not working towards that.

There are only 2 leaders that have charisma and political brains, NTR and YSR. period.

The great thing that needs to be noted about YSR is the charisma he got is really difficult compared to the charisma NTR got.

The great thing about NTR is the political skills he learnt were not that easy compared to how YSR learnt.

A leader got to be dynamic,aggressive, and fast in decision making.

Problem with JP is he is not making any effort to accumulate the charisma. His speeches are thought provoking but do not reach masses.

Chiru has charisma but no brains.

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