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Telugu_times
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Bushu:manindra agarwal, iit kanpur ani google chesko. sari pothadho ledho cheppu.
Bushu babai.. nuvvu IITK aa? |
Chitti_v2
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Idiot1:
neninkaa dviscussion katnam gurinchi anukunnaa.......reservatins gurinchaa |
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Chitti_v2:
evaru nuvvu?  |
Bushu
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Vjavasi:ilantivi cheppukondi
avasaram ledhu. |
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Bushu:LOL. neeku path breaking kakuntey vere vallaki kaa koodadhaa? sare, manindra agarwal, iit kanpur ani google chesko. sari pothadho ledho cheppu.
yep, ee example baagundhi alage karmarkar achievement in math.....ilantivi cheppukondi |
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Idiot1:istunna vallani vadilesi teeskuntunna vallani tidataaru endi saami. free gaa vasthe evadu teeskodu 90% mandi teeskuntaaru. politicians freebies isthaam ante politicians ni critisize chestaaru kaani teeskune vaallani tidutunnaraa?
orei ujeless annai, enni kots nokkaavu  |
Bushu
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Vjavasi:path-breaking technologies gurinchi cheppamante google, cisco antaavu .
LOL. neeku path breaking kakuntey vere vallaki kaa koodadhaa? sare, manindra agarwal, iit kanpur ani google chesko. sari pothadho ledho cheppu. |
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Okahyderabadi:
So perception lo change ravali first, send a child to school irrespective of gender. Pillalaki 10th varaku free education in Govt schools with comparable facilities, girl children ki additional incentive is that they should get some financial assistance to go to school.
Thats precisely is my Point |
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Bushu:endhayya saami saava godthunnav, em contributionsooo ani.
google sundar iyer, cisco. MIT's under 30 tech visionaries lo okadu ayyadu.
numenta.com - dileep george.
oka huge sample set lonchi prasthuthaniki idharu. inka kavalantey jeppu pedha list isthaa. sasthunnam.
ninnu evaru chaava gottaru......path-breaking technologies gurinchi cheppamante google, cisco antaavu ........kontha mandi respectable positions lo vunnaru ani nene cheppaga.....last 50 years nundi oka laksha mandhi graduate ayyuntaaru.......2-3 names cheppi prapanchaniki IIT valle technology andindhi annatu cheptunnav
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_Americans
ee list lo IIT to paatu india lo ordinary colleges lo chadivina vallu kooda vunnar |
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>>>>because they rely on such propaganda
thx for coming in ..
pom_life tamud .. I still say the same about the article .. the reason is .. she is trying to sell the story of that man by saying that he made it big in India's chaotic caste maze and he had to go through a lot of stigma kinda sympathy ni evoke chestondi to sell her story and paint India with a bad brush ..
maa thathalu nethulu tagaru maa moothulu vasana choodandi anadam entha comedy no .. 5 generations back oppressed community ni represent chestunna present generation ki sympathy tho brownie points ivvalante kuda anthe comedy naa drustilo .. rest naa BP .. nee diagnosing capacity!!!
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Pomegranate_life
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Der_schuler:because they rely on such propaganda
may be but the keyword you overlooked is Everything |
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Pomegranate_life:Why do you have to brush off everything as western lies?
because they rely on such propaganda |
Bushu
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Vjavasi:
endhayya saami saava godthunnav, em contributionsooo ani.
google sundar iyer, cisco. MIT's under 30 tech visionaries lo okadu ayyadu.
numenta.com - dileep george.
oka huge sample set lonchi prasthuthaniki idharu. inka kavalantey jeppu pedha list isthaa. sasthunnam. |
Pomegranate_life
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Kamal:tammudu .. good for you that you read this completely .. !! but the nadar conversion to christianity was mid 19th century .. not 20th !! nenu neeku aa wiki link ivvadaniki reason .. to prove that .. Nadars are low cast and 2 generations back (ante 50 years back) oppressed ani pichi koothalu banda boothu ani cheppadaniki .. nuvvu cheppina discrimination era aipoyi almost 120-130 years aipoyindi .. almost 4-5 generations later .. a young man from a Nadar family made it big .. its not very very significant ..
Kamal annai, malli inkosari slow ga oka glass water taagi without BP naa post malli chaduvu. The author was quoting the plight of grand father of chezi k. ganesan who prolly might be 90+ years old and he might have witnessed that discrimination done to his parents/grand parents. Why do you have to brush off everything as western lies?
I don't even know the history of Nadars but If I am trying to point out fingers , I at least try to read about it thoroughly. Read the wiki completely again. The toddy climbers are of low caste and they are discriminated and there is a complete section for upper cloth revolt. |
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Ishan:How can reservations be considered as incentives? As you said, parents prefer boy's education because of the expectations of returns and that is a cultural issue. Once the girl gets married and shipped off to In-Laws house, there is no payback - the society has evolved on those lines. I am not sure how reserving educational opportunities is going to solve that problem. Because with or without reservation, a girl's education is of no use to the parents. Even if she is educated and economically independent, the payback from her to the parents is lot lesser than those of boys.
Andaru ammayilu unnava parents em chestaru? they do not deny the girls the education kada.
So perception lo change ravali first, send a child to school irrespective of gender. Pillalaki 10th varaku free education in Govt schools with comparable facilities, girl children ki additional incentive is that they should get some financial assistance to go to school.
A boy educated will fend for his family only while a woman educated will fend for future of this country and the society. We should do whatever it takes to get them education and opportunities they deserve.
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day |
Kamal
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>>>>Kamal annai aren't you shooting your own foot?
well .. I dont think so ..
>>>>Uneasy with their social status, a large number of Nadar climbers embraced Christianity and became upwardly mobile. Though they improved their status with the aid of Christian missionaries, the outcome of the conversion was not according to the point of view of the missionaries. The Christian Nadar climber women, along with the Hindu Nadar climber women, wore the upper jacket in the manner of upper class women and also their Tamil counterparts, inorder to improve their social status. In turn they were discriminated and even abused by upper class men.
tammudu .. good for you that you read this completely .. !! but the nadar conversion to christianity was mid 19th century .. not 20th !! nenu neeku aa wiki link ivvadaniki reason .. to prove that .. Nadars are low cast and 2 generations back (ante 50 years back) oppressed ani pichi koothalu banda boothu ani cheppadaniki .. nuvvu cheppina discrimination era aipoyi almost 120-130 years aipoyindi .. almost 4-5 generations later .. a young man from a Nadar family made it big .. its not very very significant ..
if the author had to show how big Nadars made it in business .. you should take the case of "Shiv Nadar" of HCL technologies, one of the first IT companies of India .. but this western crook did not take his case because she cannot lie whatever she want about Shiv .. as world knows him already ..
finally cheppochedi enti ante .. she wrote a story that sells .. to buy or not is our wisdom!!!
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Idiot1
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istunna vallani vadilesi teeskuntunna vallani tidataaru endi saami. free gaa vasthe evadu teeskodu 90% mandi teeskuntaaru. politicians freebies isthaam ante politicians ni critisize chestaaru kaani teeskune vaallani tidutunnaraa?  |
Oceanseven
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Poor people, saraina facilities leka chadhuvukoleni vaallu reservations theeskovatamlo thappu ledhu. Vaallu kooda paiki raavaali. Kaanee annee vundi, kevalam kulam perutho reservations theeskunnavaaru aalochinchaali. Vaalla kulamlone inkoriki anyaayam chesthunnaaru anthe.
Collector ayinaa, MLA ayinaa, Engineer ayinaa, Doctor, teacher ayinaa mallee vaalla pillalaku reservations kosam apply cheyyadam. Are they not going to convent schools ? Vaalla caste lone village lo govt school lo chadhuvukonevaallu leraa ?
Backward or forward anedhi kulamlo ledhu, thindiki kooda gadavani vaallu forward ani applications lo raaskone paristhithi daapurinchindhi.
Adagataaniki emundhi, edhainaa adagochu, USA visas lo reservation adagochu, IT companies lo reservation adagochu, rojoo thirige bus lo adagochu. Kaanee appudu kooda advantage theeskunedhi ee convent chadhuvulu chadhive so called backward people. |
Ishan
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Anand_n: As filmfan said chadivite market value perigi, pelli easy ga kudiri , katnam lo discount vastundi ani chadivinche parents chala mandi unnaru
Thats true to an extent. But I dont think thats an enough motivation to send girls to schools. Compare the system with the West where the system of shipping off of girls after marriage doesnt exist - then the elusive equality might show up. |
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Okahyderabadi:Now if we change the equation and provide some incentive to get the girl educated,
How can reservations be considered as incentives? As you said, parents prefer boy's education because of the expectations of returns and that is a cultural issue. Once the girl gets married and shipped off to In-Laws house, there is no payback - the society has evolved on those lines. I am not sure how reserving educational opportunities is going to solve that problem. Because with or without reservation, a girl's education is of no use to the parents. Even if she is educated and economically independent, the payback from her to the parents is lot lesser than those of boys. |
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school pillodu madiri chethulu kattukuni thed motham chadivan ayya..burra antha vedekindhi...netthi meedha guddu kodithe instants omlete ayettu undi..
Congress, the worst thing ever to happen to Bharat |
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Kamal:this bull crap is written by whom??? By LYDIA POLGREEN
Kamal annai aren't you shooting your own foot? I expected you to do a little more research and spend some time to read the same link which you gave.
The author quoted about the chezi k. ganesan's Grand Father
From your same link which you quoted may be you forgot to read about the section about 'Nadars of Travancore'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadar_%28caste%29#Nadars_of_Tra vancore
fyi I will quote it so that it is easy for you to read
Uneasy with their social status, a large number of Nadar climbers embraced Christianity and became upwardly mobile. Though they improved their status with the aid of Christian missionaries, the outcome of the conversion was not according to the point of view of the missionaries. The Christian Nadar climber women, along with the Hindu Nadar climber women, wore the upper jacket in the manner of upper class women and also their Tamil counterparts, inorder to improve their social status. In turn they were discriminated and even abused by upper class men.
Ya you can say LYDIA POLGREEN's lies in western media.
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@ Vjavasi.
On the contrary what makes you feel IITs are not the premier institutes of education India? |
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Okahyderabadi:A teacher who teaches in one of the coaching centers that train for IIT perhaps makes more than the lecturers who teach in these premier institutes.
Absolutely yes. These days private engg colleges are paying more. 1 lac - 2 lac per month is not unheard of.. |
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Senapathy:8 years ago, a new faculty in IITs was paid a salary of 17,500 pm, the same time when a BPO employee was making 15-20,000 working on 8 hr/day shifts. isnt that a sorry state too :-)
A teacher who teaches in one of the coaching centers that train for IIT perhaps makes more than the lecturers who teach in these premier institutes.
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Vjavasi:IIT's lo phd lu kooda chestaaru.......adhe cheppamantunna entha mandi MIT, stanfords lo admission techukoni world level lo shine ayyaro
IITs are new institutions. They will take more time to establish their worth in PhD programmes. See my previous post for more details.
Look at it the other way. How many PhDs from MIT and Stanford shine in the world? Why do you single out IITians?
Vjavasi:how does it matter when u are the cream
Nee yenks, What do you expect 2000 undergrads to do? Design Agni IV?
Vjavasi:.most of them get to the bottom of what they do
How? Explain? Have you ever taught them? |
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Indiarocks:Institute contribution enti ante verey universities lo admission ki students ni prepare cheyadam kaadu kada.
They have precisely become that. If you see the CBS interview too most of the students interviewed pretty much indicated the same thing.
Now dabbu evariki chedu kadu and IIT'ians are not an exception like others, most of them have gone abroad got higher education built up successful empires(which is good) but where is the contribution back to India?, ante migita vallandaru peekestunnaru ani kadu. compare that with IISC, huge number of alumni that have gone in to building the scientific research and development community in India apart from teaching in number of IIT's too.
So let us leave the discussion of IIT and IISC etc in this thread, we can open another thread on this topic and discuss perhaps
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Indiarocks:Is it not a pity that even after 60yrs of their coming into being, IITs still remain majorly as undergrad institutions?
Institute contribution enti ante verey universities lo admission ki students ni prepare cheyadam kaadu kada.
Probably that is their capacity. The bulk of IITs is still classrooms. The associated lab space is very less. Edo guddi lo mella laaga computers, biology, chemistry, physics lo koncham lab space dorukutundi. Other Engg buildings chinna size apartments laaga untaayi, where can you put in the instruments needed to do quality science.
The bottom line is budget too. The lab I work here, we spend more than $1 million an year. With the cost of doing science gloablized, how can IITs compare with the best in business.
There are other very good institutes in India working on basic science. IISc, TIFR, NCBS, CCMB, NCL. They combined do better science than IITs.
IITs ended up as supplying the cream of our country to the other univs in the world. A pity cause. The givt should pump more money into science and education.
8 years ago, a new faculty in IITs was paid a salary of 17,500 pm, the same time when a BPO employee was making 15-20,000 working on 8 hr/day shifts. isnt that a sorry state too  |
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Senapathy:
Ayya.. Vjavasi..
IITs are NOT synonymous for science and technology. They are the teaching schools. Specializing in undergraduate education. Madisi undergrad chesi emi podiseyyadu. He needs to buildup on that background.
IIT's lo phd lu kooda chestaaru.......adhe cheppamantunna entha mandi MIT, stanfords lo admission techukoni world level lo shine ayyaro
Senapathy: IIT used to be 2000-2500 with 2000 people students.
how does it matter when u are the cream
Senapathy:And coming to the quality. IIT undergrads are among the BEST in the world. I have taught undergrads at Ivy League Schools and they pale in comparison.
oh really.....my experience is something different in a third tier school....their approach is completely different from indian students....most of them get to the bottom of what they do |
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Senapathy:Ayya.. Vjavasi..
IITs are NOT synonymous for science and technology. They are the teaching schools. Specializing in undergraduate education. Madisi undergrad chesi emi podiseyyadu. He needs to buildup on that background.
Harard, Caltech, MIT on the other hand are education + research based institutions. Anduke their mileage is far reached. Anduke none of IITs actually show up in top 50 universities in the world. Also the number of people matter. Harvard population oka 20,000 untundi. IIT used to be 2000-2500 with 2000 people students. You cannot compare. And coming to the quality. IIT undergrads are among the BEST in the world. I have taught undergrads at Ivy League Schools and they pale in comparison.
Is it not a pity that even after 60yrs of their coming into being, IITs still remain majorly as undergrad institutions?
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Vjavasi:it's perfectly logical we are told in india that IIT's are synoymous to science and technology
......but when we analyse who matter in science & technology in world in different areas IIT's doesn't count much.....but MIT,Stanford,Harvard,Caltech and other institutes do count......all these institutes not only deal with technology but also fundamental researcg....infact they do lot of interdisciplinary research....They admit not only IIT guys but people from top institutes of every country on the planet.....IIT's are no special in that....what they do after admission matters
Ayya.. Vjavasi..
IITs are NOT synonymous for science and technology. They are the teaching schools. Specializing in undergraduate education. Madisi undergrad chesi emi podiseyyadu. He needs to buildup on that background.
Harard, Caltech, MIT on the other hand are education + research based institutions. Anduke their mileage is far reached. Anduke none of IITs actually show up in top 50 universities in the world. Also the number of people matter. Harvard population oka 20,000 untundi. IIT used to be 2000-2500 with 2000 people students. You cannot compare. And coming to the quality. IIT undergrads are among the BEST in the world. I have taught undergrads at Ivy League Schools and they pale in comparison. |
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>>>>They admit not only IIT guys but people from top institutes of every country on the planet.....
annai .. okka debba lo kotti paresaavu ga .. IIT ni ..
for gods sake .. world wide .. top 100 technical institutes lo IITs 2 unnayi anukunta annai .. you quoted as though every other country has an institute of IITs standard ..
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Pomegranite life tammud ..
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/world/asia/11caste.html?_r =1&pagewanted=all
ee NYTimes link ichav .. lower caste nunchi iragadeesina vaallu unnara ani India Rocks annai adigithe ..
ee article lo vaademi raasado chaduvu ..
quote:His family has come a long way. His grandfather was not allowed to enter Hindu temples, or even to stand too close to upper-caste people, and women of his Nadar caste, who stood one notch above untouchables in Indiaâs ancient caste hierarchy, were once forced to bare their breasts before upper caste men as a reminder of their low station.
âCaste has no impact on life today,â Mr. Ganesan said in an interview at one of Chennaiâs exclusive social clubs, the kind of place where a generation ago someone of his caste would not have been welcome. âIt is no longer a barrier.â
The Nadarsâ spectacular rise from despised manual laborers who made a mildly alcoholic palm wine to business leaders in one of Indiaâs most prosperous states offers significant clues to Indiaâs caste conundrum and how it has impeded economic progress in many parts of the country.
this bull crap is written by whom??? By LYDIA POLGREEN
.. Now .. Nadar's untouchables aa? LOL .. ye zamana mastaru??? what a bull crap .. Nadars are equalent to Reddies of AP .. Tamil Nadu lo very prominent caste .. eppudo Indira Gandhi zamana lo .. Kamaraj Nadar ucha poyinchadu .. and neeku naa matala meeda nammakam lekapothe .. read about Nadar caste .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadar_%28caste%29
ilanti westerners raase sodhi teesukochi points score chese mundu koddiga verify chesukuni post cheyyi tammudu .. because .. these are kind of lies that go in the name of India and Indian culture/history .. shame that these western rats write such lies and score brownie points ..
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Kamal:Its not only they pompously claiming that they are the best .. even the world is acknowledging that when it comes to technology
Der_schuler:But ur Q is a very legit one.....Ur comparison on technical fronts is totally illogical. All u need to do is to apply for MIT annai...put in gre score as 1500 and say KLCE and then say IIT...U will see how ur application is valued
it's perfectly logical we are told in india that IIT's are synoymous to science and technology ......but when we analyse who matter in science & technology in world in different areas IIT's doesn't count much.....but MIT,Stanford,Harvard,Caltech and other institutes do count......all these institutes not only deal with technology but also fundamental researcg....infact they do lot of interdisciplinary research....They admit not only IIT guys but people from top institutes of every country on the planet.....IIT's are no special in that....what they do after admission matters |
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>>>>IIT vs Non-IIT competing directly with each other examples telisinavi cheppaanu. First hand info
Coke .. every body agrees .. if you have the material in you .. IIT ee akkarledu .. mana JNTU/CBIT nunchi kuda innovate cheyyochu .. but when it comes to chance .. an IITian has more chances antunnam anthe .. probability yaar .. 
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Kamal:kanipettava .. ujless .. asalu adi evadu kaadu annadu?
IIT vs Non-IIT competing directly with each other examples telisinavi cheppaanu. First hand info |
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>>>>PPl who do not opt to pursue that path can also succeed.
kanipettava .. ujless .. asalu adi evadu kaadu annadu? 
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Maa university lo nenu observe chesindi entante, nee subject meeda neeku passion unte nuvvu B.Tech ekkada chesavu ani evadu care cheyadu
There was a Srinidhi guy who developed anti-virus in B.Tech. He used to work with one of the best profs in the dept. That prof is leading the famous CajunBot project. The prof is an IITian himself but not many IITians in the team. That prof fired an IITian the previous sem for not performing
One more case I saw in my univ: There was IIT-Chemical-Kharagpur candidate who was rejected by Amazon. A MVSR guy made it through.
Bottom line: It totally depends on the individual. Talented ones who opt to pursue B.Tech in IIT get the stamp. PPl who do not opt to pursue that path can also succeed. |
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Okahyderabadi:
Both of us typed up almost the same content
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>>>>I have no problem if IITians do whatever they choose to do....that's their choice.....but if they claim their stock is the best then i will name people who actually matter in technological advancement, also i have to question their contribution to indian technology given the pathetic state of indian technology....they are afterall named indian institute of technology
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Its not only they pompously claiming that they are the best .. even the world is acknowledging that when it comes to technology .. in India .. they are the best .. while I agree that Indian technology as such in a bad state .. that does not take away anything from IIT's .. kanisam aamadam chettu chandam ..
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Ishan:How many parents in Indian villages are interested in sending their girls to schools? Even if the fees are cut and put more reservations, whats the use if they are not admitted to schools by their parents.
What are the social deterrents ?
1. Perception that girls do not need to work , just take care of home and hearth :
Qn . Is that really true in the lower class ? Girls and women are very much part of the labor force. If a better guaranteed return is made available for sending girls to school - would more parents be inclined to educate their girls ?
2. Investing on a girls education is waste cos only the sons will take care of the parents.Chadivinchi katnam ichi pelli cheyyali...
Qn. This is more difficult to work around. Will assuring a job where she can be financially sound enough to help the family work as an incentive? As filmfan said chadivite market value perigi, pelli easy ga kudiri , katnam lo discount vastundi ani chadivinche parents chala mandi unnaru
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Vjavasi:.how much IIT's contributed to improve technological capacity of nation?........we are not even able to develop a simple missile properly.....we are repeating the same missile trials for the last 30 years
Ok ee question is a good Q...and I agree with you and the reasons are not defly technical....they are more monetary and stuff....I know atleasst 15 ppl from IIT who are project leaders at JPL...and it is not EASY to go that far at JPL....
But ur Q is a very legit one.....Ur comparison on technical fronts is totally illogical. All u need to do is to apply for MIT annai...put in gre score as 1500 and say KLCE and then say IIT...U will see how ur application is valued |
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Kamal:annai .. I know your response was for Der .. but still adugutunna .. IIT's lo grads MNC's doing mediocre work ki pani chestunnara? right .. someone might be working for lets say Bank of America on the IT side .. so what? why is that average guy a reflection of the capability of the IIT system as a whole?
I have no problem if IITians do whatever they choose to do....that's their choice.....but if they claim their stock is the best then i will name people who actually matter in technological advancement, also i have to question their contribution to indian technology given the pathetic state of indian technology....they are afterall named indian institute of technology |
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Vjavasi annai badha naaku artham ayyindi, kaani question thappu adugutunnaru.
IITs contribution to Indian society/India enti, annadi aayana question anukunta. |
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Ishan:Women education might be more of a cultural issue than intelligent issue. Dont you think? How many parents in Indian villages are interested in sending their girls to schools? Even if the fees are cut and put more reservations, whats the use if they are not admitted to schools by their parents.
valid point but most of it is not totally social, there is economic factor involved in it too. Instead of educating a girl child they prefer to educate a boy because the boy would take care of them in future where are the girl (according to them might now) so the girl is denied the education. Now if we change the equation and provide some incentive to get the girl educated, if not in this generation in couple of generations women will have made sufficient progress , don't you think so?
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>>>>then what's the issue here?
>>>>but i don't agree they lead india in innovation
I think the second statement is the issue annai .. as a group, is there any education system in India that beats IITs in innovation .. any ???
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>>>>Der, then tell me what exactly is the purpose of IIT's if you can't compare them with best people in the world who also do technological innovation.....if they are just fit to work in some MNC's doing mediocre work then IIT's don't deserve special treatment.....it may be true that they go through tough exams but there ends their calibre...what they do during their stay at IIT's matter....how much IIT's contributed to improve technological capacity of nation?........we are not even able to develop a simple missile properly.....we are repeating the same missile trials for the last 30 years
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annai .. I know your response was for Der .. but still adugutunna .. IIT's lo grads MNC's doing mediocre work ki pani chestunnara? right .. someone might be working for lets say Bank of America on the IT side .. so what? why is that average guy a reflection of the capability of the IIT system as a whole?
Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Intel, AMD, Goldman Sachs, Fidelity, Apple, AIG, Boeing, NASA etc etc .. ivi anni good for nothing MNCs ane abhiprayam lo unnara? if thats so .. I think you are under a wrong notion .. and I feel half the reason for that notion is your dislike for corporates .. but frankly in my view .. corporates are the way the world will function and their greed and profit motives being a problem is an entirely different issue!
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Senapathy:No one claims that
then what's the issue here? |
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>>>>>nuvvekada dorikav sami ......engineers no much to physicist antavu...thats a tuatology and its true even for MIT or Berkeley..
frankly u have no idea of how difficult it is to make it to IIT with out coaching etc.....JEE has been rated the most difficult exam in the world for that age group...for engineering and tech...
I frankly dont think u understand the depth of what it takes to excel at IIT and why people around the world value them more than any one in India...even if you like or not...ppl recruting them are univs like MIT etc who know whom they are talking to not some journalist who works by names >>>>>
Der, then tell me what exactly is the purpose of IIT's if you can't compare them with best people in the world who also do technological innovation.....if they are just fit to work in some MNC's doing mediocre work then IIT's don't deserve special treatment.....it may be true that they go through tough exams but there ends their calibre...what they do during their stay at IIT's matter....how much IIT's contributed to improve technological capacity of nation?........we are not even able to develop a simple missile properly.....we are repeating the same missile trials for the last 30 years |
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Okahyderabadi:
Women education might be more of a cultural issue than intelligent issue. Dont you think? How many parents in Indian villages are interested in sending their girls to schools? Even if the fees are cut and put more reservations, whats the use if they are not admitted to schools by their parents. |
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CBS link bagundi, but commentator cheppinattu 90% of admissions are boys. So are we saying that girls
- are not talented
- are not hardworking
- not getting the correct exposure/chances
roughly how much % of the students in IIT come from a rural background? how many have access to coaching etc kind of help, koncham light eyandi DER
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Vjavasi:IIT's are important institute but they are not the most important on planet
No one claims that
Vjavasi: but i don't agree they lead india in innovation
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Kamal:indake manam Pentium processor gurinchi Der cheppaga vinnamu .. I think that is a crucial development in the evolution of computers at a level of hardware .. alanti innovations emi lekapothene .. eppudo zamana kritam .. CBS lo 60 minutes lo IIT gurinchi vachinda?
i think the concept of processor didn't start with pentium, i agree there are few who reached respectable positions but nothing like path breaking innovation....IIT's are important institute but they are not the most important on planet
Kamal:I think .. when it comes to innovation .. IITians lead the show for India .. and if their innovations dont count on your scale and measure .. I guess .. not many nations on earth do either in your view!
i agree to the extent that they are an important technical pool of indian origin, but i don't agree they lead india in innovation |
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