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     Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4924 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Discuss cheyyamani demand chestaventi babu  Sambandham ledu Vjavasi ki nuvvu anukunte chaala? Okasari velli aa thread choodu, andulo exact ga same issue post chesanu. India is on the brink of a water crisis ani. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16825 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
discuss cheyyavayya ani post vesthe .. Vjavasi ni laagavu sambandam lekapoyina .. malli fairness .. kikk neeku inko thread vesaanu ratri .. mee favorite MMS gori policies gurinchi .. papam chadivi undavu !!! "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4923 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
icon lu start chesindi evaro thread chadive vallaki telsu anukunta. You made the argument personal. I am out of this. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4922 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
enti too fair, I at least did not criticize or try to find loop holes on his views. If you want an example on who does that, refer to your posts on numerous LSP threads. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16823 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
honesty gurinchi maname cheppaali .. mana desam lo Hindus ki genuine ga oka manchi identity kavali ante vallani extremists ani brand chese manam .. LOL .. aa icon nuvve unchuko .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Siloan Hero Username: Siloan Post Number: 12209 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 132.174.20.41 Rating: N/A |
namasthe sadha vatsale maatru bhooomi...  Pulf(12982): jagan is the only ,, repeat only ,, leader that will work for people 24*7*365 .what i am saying .. is .. by denying jagan his position .. the leaders today are allowing people to lose .. pulf(13058):Jagan janam meedha bathikey type kaadhu .. Janam Kosam Bathikey Type .. pulf(13062):chuttooo inni kutralu jarugu thunnaaaa..chirunavvutho premanu panchuthunnaa unnatha samskaari jagan .. | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16822 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
Hindus ki representation ledu .. BJP took that up and said .. we will represent Hindu political voice .. tappento cheppu??? court lo unte enti??? 100s of years ga court lo ne undi .. bull shit ..
neeku boothu avvachu .. Modern day India lo .. biggest movement was Rama Janma Bhoomi movement by the Sangh Parivar .. adi janalaki telusu .. andaru Hindus kattakattukuni BJP ki veyyalsina avasaram inka raledu .. vaste vestaru .. BJP ki only 185 seats unnayi .. temple kosam govt side nunchi emanna cheyyali ante .. it needs atleast 400 seats .. 1999-2004 .. court case ki sambandinchi .. pending lo unna affidavits .. reports ni fast ga release ayyela chesindi BJP govt .. teliyakapothe edo solleyyochu .. ilage .. manaki istam ledani power kosam ani visham kakkadame ..
apeyyi .. India ki water shortage undi ani nuvvu cheppakarledu, Kishan Reddy cheppakarledu .. maa inti ki kooli ga pani chesina nagayya kuda cheppagaladu .. akkada discuss cheyyalsindi .. aa article lo discuss chesina ideas gurinchi .. !!! prajala kosam paatu padedi only LS and JP ane build up iche meeru .. Kishan Reddy gurinchi okka manchi maata kuda anakapovadam .. too fair antunna ! "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4921 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
DB lo chala mandi at least open gaa caste support chesukuntaru. At least they are honest. Kaani konthamandi signature lo bharat maata ki jai lu post lo corruption ki, criminals ki support lu.  Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4920 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Enti abaddala, nenu cheppindi prathi okkati fact. Issue inka court lo undi, annadi abaddama? Only the court has to decide on it anndadi abaddama? BJP issue valla votes penchukovadam abaddama?
Enti push over, enti boomeranged. Asalu hindu freedom ki Advani yathra oka representation annadi boothu. Ala anukunte Hindus andaru BJP ki vote vesevallu. Antha thopu aithe BJP power loki vachaka enduku moosukunnaru? So power was more important for them, than the temple?
Water management meeda em cheppali. I already mentioned days ago that India is the first country to witness acute water shortage in the future ani, adey undi article lo. Inkem cheppali.
Idi artham kaani vaadu evvaru undaru India lo. Kaani ippudunna prathi muslim ni Babar laaga choose vaadu asalina dhed dhimaak gaadu. History, facts, archeological evidence veetini argument ki basis cheskokunda, human emotions meeda seats penchukodaniki vadukunnayi parties. Moderates were never allowed to prevail over extremists on both sides.
Visham kakkatam etc ane mundu mana vaadu aithe corruption ni, giving seats to criminals ni, acts responsible for deaths ni open gaa support cheyatam gurthunchukovali. kiki Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Ipc302 Side Hero Username: Ipc302 Post Number: 6214 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 129.62.200.165 Rating: N/A |
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| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16820 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
temple kattadaaniki anukulam ga ne undachu annai .. Archeological evidence collected in 2003 may be crucial .. kakapothe religious harmony ni drustilo pettukuni .. 80% land Hindus ki .. 20% land Muslims ki lanti setting edo chestaru antunnaru .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Guriginja Hero Username: Guriginja Post Number: 13814 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 97.81.101.254 Rating: N/A |
kamalesh 24th na teerpu yetta vundocchantav? JOHAR YSR.....YSR AMAR RAHE | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16818 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
dhed dimaak gaallaki idi ardam kaadu .. same is the case with Mathura, Benaras and hundreds of other temples razed to ground and claimed as mosques
idi realize aithe baguntundi .. anyways vaallaki ee land lo "religious significance" unna locations emi levu .. alantappudu enduku ee mondi pattudala? "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16817 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
The change after the 1980s that India witnessed is .. Hindus are no more an "easy pushover" anymore .. you mess with their freedom, you will be boomeranged .. thats what is the change .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Kamal Hero Username: Kamal Post Number: 16816 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 71.113.239.18 Rating: N/A |
abaddala putta .. visham kakkatam matram vachu .. water management meeda article ki link iste .. sambandam leni sodhi cheppadam .. "To be born free is an accident. To live free is a privilege. To die free is a responsibility" - Indian Army | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4917 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
My point is that nothing happened wrt to the issue. The ball is still in the court room. The only change from Advani's yathra is that some ppl came into the thinking that voting for BJP is the only way to realize the temple. It also gave extremists on the otherside a good reason to rake up ppl's emotions. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Andhrawala Side Hero Username: Andhrawala Post Number: 3529 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 192.58.204.226 Rating: N/A |
What happened before the Ramajanmabhoomi movement tookplace in 1990?? COngress or courts could have doen something. Right. Just like Rajiv did in Shah bano's case. why did they sleep | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4757 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
tana yatra valla ekkada riots jaragala.....1990 karasewakula meedha mulayam firing orders ichinappudu chanipoyaru.....after babri demolition chanipoyaru | ||
| Indiarocks Side Hero Username: Indiarocks Post Number: 4912 Registered: 09-2008 Posted From: 207.141.5.253 Rating: N/A |
Advani issue ni hijack chesi, emotions raise cheyakapothe eepatiki konchem progress undedi anukuntunna. Temple meeda prema kante, ee country lo domination evaridi, ee country lo majority evaru, or memu minority aithe mathram vallu cheppindi enduku vinali - ilanti thinking teesukochadu. Not to mention the 500+ who died because of his yathra. Arogyasree fans must watch | ||
| Vjavasi Side Hero Username: Vjavasi Post Number: 4756 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 192.127.94.7 Rating: N/A |
Are muslims ready for reconciliation? http://news.rediff.com/column/2010/sep/17/can-court-verdict- resolve-ayodhya-dispute.htm Nothing that has transpired since Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi [ Images ] rekindled the fire by throwing open the doors of this sanctum sanctorum to renewed Hindu worship in 1986 does adequate justice to the Babri Masjid-Ram Mandir controversy; not the haphazard compilation of events or the garbled, inane theories contained in the Liberhan Commission report; not the high decibel pretentious rhetoric indulged in by self-serving politicians or the verbose articulations of media columnists; not even the aggressive posturing of the sangh parivar; and certainly not the mundane and straitjacketed pronouncements by a court of law that is constricted by rigid rules and regulations which conform to the political correctness of a specific time period. We can wait with bated breaths for the Allahabad High Court verdict slated for September 24 but that is not going to put to rest this controversy. The Babri Masjid-Ram Mandir controversy is one of a kind: an issue that defines a people's history, a dilemma that distills the faith of a civilization and more recently a strife that has the potential to disrupt the social equilibrium of a modern state. In aeonic terms too, it stands out, stretching out over nearly half a millennium, spanning the life of two empires and extending well into the tenure of a third regime, the new India [ Images ]. The destruction of the edifice on December 6, 1992 was an unfortunate but avoidable culmination of this historic schism. To reduce this dispute to a mere law and order problem and assign culpability to a specific section of our society and treat it as such represents a myopic mindset that disregards its overarching historical, religious and political facets: a small town approach that has been the bane of this controversy. Without going into intricate archeological details it is imperative to assess this imbroglio with a simple albeit logical frame of mind. There is no disagreement as to who built this structure known variably as the Babri Masjid [ Images ] or the Masjid-i-Janmastan: it was constructed by Mir Baqi, one of Babar's generals in 1528. What is in contention is the location of the edifice or the edifice that was. Was a pre-existing Hindu temple razed to the ground to consecrate the Babri Masjid is the million dollar question? The first query that joggles one's mind concerns the specific location of this mosque. Of all the myriad places available in the vast expanse of the Indian sub-continent, why did Babar home in on Ayodhya, a place sanctified by Hindu tradition? Was it a symbolic attempt to stamp Islamic dominance over Hindu India? Historically, there is ample evidence to indicate continued Hindu obeisance at this site. In 1768, an Austrian priest, Joseph Tieffenthaler averred that Hindus routinely celebrated Ram Navmi in front of the mosque. Analyzing this ostensibly inexplicable behaviour, he wrote: "The reason is that here existed formerly a house in which Beschan (Vishnu [ Images ]) took birth in the form of Rama and where it is said his three brothers were also born. Subsequently Aurangzeb and some say Babar destroyed the place in order to prevent the heathens from practising their ceremonies. However, they have continued to practice their religious ceremonies in both the places knowing this to have been the birth place of Rama by going around it three times and prostrating on the ground." (Harsh Narain in The Ayodhya Temple Mosque Dispute, 1993, New Delhi [ Images ], Penman Publications, and by Peter Van der Veer in Religious Nationalism) British government dossiers also affirm that both Hindus and Muslims worshipped in the same complex during the 19th century. Additionally it appears that Hindus persisted with both military and legal measures to regain this site. Koenraad Elst, an Indic scholar of Belgian origin, in his book Ramjanambhoomi vs Babri-Masjid recalls several armed raids by Hindu rulers of the Mughal period with this goal in mind. In 1855, the Faizabad District Gazetteer describes a bloody riot associated with the disputed site: "The desecration of the most scared spot in the city caused great bitterness between Hindus and Mussalmans. On many occasions, the fighting led to bloodshed, and in 1855 an open fight occurred, the Mussalmans occupying the Janmasthan in forceÂ…" Note the use of the word, 'Janmasthan' which alludes to its origin. In 1885, Mahant Raghubar Ram moved the courts for permission to erect a temple just outside the Babri Masjid premises. Despite validating the claim of the petitioner, the judge dismissed the case citing the passage of time: "It is most unfortunate that a masjid should have been built on land specially held sacred by the Hindus, but as that event occurred 356 years ago, it is too late now to agree with the grievances." (Court verdict by Colonel F E A Chamier, district judge, Faizabad, 1886). These events, despite some having reservations about the political motives of the British reports, do underline some incontrovertible facts. One Hindus have been worshipping at this site for hundreds of years. And two Hindus have repeatedly launched military and legal battles for custody of this site. The next question that logically follows is: Why were Hindus offering prayers in front of a mosque for hundreds of years? Why were they fixated on this spot? Was it sheer coincidence? Or was there any special religious significance? Therefore, without passing a final judgment, one can rationally conclude that there was at least some merit in the Hindu stance. There can be no smoke without a fire Finally the decider: How important is the masjid-mandir site to the Hindus? Extremely important, being linked with the birthplace of one of their most revered deity and in a town that is synonymous traditionally with Shri Ram. Does it carry the same degree of importance to Muslims? Was this structure or town ever associated traditionally with their religion? In this catechism lies the answer. With a little forethought this controversy could have been transformed into a golden opportunity encasing magnanimity and grace cementing forever Hindu-Muslim amity. Instead it became a watershed for Hindu-Muslim polarisation. The answer to this problem lies not in a court verdict but in human accommodation. Are the Muslims of India up to it? |
