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Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3160 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.161 Rating: |
For people who really likes to read... https://www.dailyo.in/politics/rafale-debate-in-parliament-r ahul-gandhi-nirmala-sitharaman-dassault/story/1/28834.html | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3159 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.161 Rating: |
For all the Bofors claims by N Ram....... https://twitter.com/chitraSD/status/1086175866479149056 he has always been an idiot..... | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3158 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.161 Rating: |
panikiraani chillara articls pattukochchi.........."I read books, so this article is right".........WTF.........this is some kinda sick joke on themselves....ppl who thinks that way... now if someone shows the holes in that article.........guess what the bookies do........they run away....and come back with more crap from some other "investigative" journalism.......... its like those orcs and urukhais that get spawned in LOTR.......this kinda zombie behavior is only possible, when ppl learn only from reading books and hardly try to learn anything about life or use their brain, I guess.... | ||
Mandharam Side Hero Username: Mandharam Post Number: 5244 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 192.163.5.10 Rating: N/A |
if one can compare 2016 vs 2011, one should also investigate why 2011 deal didn't happen? or why 2008 deal didn't happen? | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3131 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
Left or Right , if a journalist did unbiased investigation,people will definitely encourage those journalists. But left liberal journalist lost their credibility with single agenda of targeting Modi only without any proofs.These idiots dont care about supreme court verdicts but expect people to believe their version of fake articles. | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3157 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.161 Rating: N/A |
yup...why will we ever read books?.........only ndtv, the_wire guys do.........hehehe we dont read no books to wash our brains with crap........unlearning is the way to get rid of third class leftist narratives.......full of holes and hardly backed by data......... ee bookula pichchi endo...........books chadivi Amartya sen gaadi chettha nethina vesukuntey sukhamgaa untundemo.........all kindsa fetish in the world........ sankanaakey chaduvulu, chadavakapothey better........if it doesnt open up the thinking and makes them just rabid partisan fools....who consume all garbage in the name of reading books and "investigative" articles..... | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3130 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: N/A |
LOL | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 9336 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 125.63.122.107 Rating: |
Bofors meedha N Ram investigation chesinappudu emayindi ee logic.....as a theory goes, the problem with the left is that they read only left literature, the problem with the right is that they don't read anything !!! I think DiscoveringSelf guy is the guy who claimed earlier that he never read any book in life, that plays right into the stereotype. | ||
Nyk Side Hero Username: Nyk Post Number: 4339 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 49.204.220.83 Rating: N/A |
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Biriyani Megastar Username: Biriyani Post Number: 22550 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 73.33.45.239 Rating: |
educated illiterates...jaali paddam eppatikaina maaralani | ||
Discoveringself Side Hero Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 3156 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.17.161 Rating: |
hehehe.........aa madhya ilaagey oka article....assumption is "value of Yen is constant"......and then lets evaluate bullet train......... ee chettu peru cheppukuni kaayalu ammukuney Amartya Sen batch...........chivariki N Ram laanti hardcore idiot ni supporting antey.........ouch....gasping at straws....good god, not some NDTV or the_wire investigation..... padukundi TDP ilaagey Modi meeda try chesi chesi......but looks like TTs still throwing all crap and see if it sticks......... | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3129 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
https://www.opindia.com/2019/01/n-ram-of-the-hindu-blatantly -picks-up-the-work-of-another-journalist-on-rafale-to-brand- it-an-exclusive/ N Ram of The Hindu blatantly picks up the work of another journalist on Rafale to brand it an “exclusive†Though expecting ethics from The Hindu is a fool's endeavour, one hopes that at least now The Hindu and N Ram would give Manu Pubby and Abhijit Iyer their due credit instead of calling this as an "exclusive". | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3128 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
https://www.opindia.com/2019/01/2016-rafale-deal-achieved-ob jectives-of-better-price-delivery-and-terms-mod-spokesperson -rubbishes-the-hindu-report/ ‘2016 Rafale deal achieved objectives of better price, delivery and terms’: MoD spokesperson rubbishes The Hindu report MoD spokesperson has said: "The article is factually inaccurate. It does not adduce any new arguments. All the issues have been answered in detail by the Government at various fora and most recently by the Raksha Mantri in an open debate in the Parliament". The Hindu today published a story authored by N Ram, a foremost member of the family that owns the paper. In the article, which lifted content revealed by another journalist and passed them off as a The Hindu ‘exclusive’, N Ram made some fantastical claims deriding the Rafale deal. After the article was published, the Ministry of Defence spokesperson has issued a detailed response to the article. In the point by point response, MoD spokesperson has rubbished the claims made. The full statement has been reproduced below: 1. The article is factually inaccurate. It does not adduce any new arguments. All the issues have been answered in detail by the Government at various fora and most recently by the Raksha Mantri in an open debate in the Parliament. - Advertisement - - Article resumes - 2. The deal for the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets in 2016 achieved the objectives of a better price, better delivery period and better terms compared to the earlier proposal. 3. The pricing details which are of confidential nature and covered by the Indo-French security agreement of 2008 were shared with the Supreme Court in a sealed cover. The Supreme Court has gone through the details of pricing and commercial advantage. The Supreme Court has not found anything adverse in the deal and has refused to order an investigation as sought by the Petitioners. The CAG has been given access to all the files related to Rafale deal. It is best to await the report of an authoritative agency like the CAG. 4. The author has rightly pointed out that the cost of the basic aircraft in the 2016 deal was better than the offer of 2007 after considering escalation even though several media reports and political parties keep comparing the cost of the basic aircraft of 2007 with the cost of fully loaded aircraft in 2015. 5. The India Specific Enhancements were part of the requirements of the Indian Air Force to achieve tactical superiority over our adversaries. These were part of the 2007 bid and continued to be part of the 2016 deal. The cost of the India Specific Enhancements was on a fixed basis in the 2007 bid which was negotiated down in the 2016 deal. However, to compare the cost for the MMRCA contract which never materialized with the cost of the 36 aircraft procured in 2016 is fallacious. The author while indicating the price of ISE as 1.4 Bn Euro in 2007 has failed to include the in-built escalation factor that would have worked between 2007 and 2015. 6. Surprisingly, in the headline of the article, the author has compared the un-escalated price of 2007 with the price of 2016 without considering the escalation factors inherent in the price bid. Later, hidden deep in the article itself it is stated that the price is 14.2% higher compared to the escalated price as probably this figure does not attract as much attention as a 41.4% higher price. 7. The author has also missed the main advantage in terms of price obtained by the Government in 2016 deal which was mentioned by the Raksha Mantri in Parliament. 8. This change from a firm and fixed price to a flexible rate was possible only because the deal was structured under an IGA. This factor is expected to lead to a substantial commercial advantage over the delivery period of 36 Rafale aircrafts. 9. A negotiation, especially, between two countries is a comprehensive deal and by selectively picking certain aspects while ignoring others, creates doubts by vested interests on a matter of vital national security. This has been repeatedly pointed out by the Government and accepted by the Supreme Court. 10. The issue of dissent within the Indian Negotiated Team has also been answered by the Raksha Mantri in the Parliament. In the highest traditions of the Civil Service, all views are aired and recorded and a collegiate decision taken after considering such opinions. Decisions on the deal were taken after due process of inter-ministerial consultation. 11. The issue of benchmarking and the offer of EADS to give a 20% discount are related. Even the UPA Government had rightly rejected the EADS offer of 20% discount in 2012 after opening of bids as violative of procedure. Consideration of this offer by the Government would have again made the Government subject to charge of violating basic procedure. It is best to avoid the pitfalls of a corporate battle which has been going on since 2012 which has adversely affected the capabilities of the Indian Air Force. The controversy should be put to rest in the interest of national security. | ||
Nyk Side Hero Username: Nyk Post Number: 4338 Registered: 04-2018 Posted From: 49.204.220.83 Rating: N/A |
same doubt | ||
Teluguhero Side Hero Username: Teluguhero Post Number: 3127 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 73.104.252.173 Rating: |
N ram is hardcore leftist and his article based on assumptions and how can he compare 2011 prices and 2016 prices ? completely biased article even after supreme court verdict In same article last paragraph " no money trail has been discovered so far in the current case " so what is point of this whole article. Narendra Modi is honest politician and so far no scams or corruption allegations against Modi or his ministers. But these leftists and pseudo secular journalists wasted so much time against modi by writing silly articles even after supreme court verdict.but they never wrote single article against UPA govt/Sonia when UPA govt involved in many scams in those 10 years, | ||
Confused Junior Artist Username: Confused Post Number: 923 Registered: 05-2017 Posted From: 150.148.14.154 Rating: N/A |
sagam chadivanu, what is his version? is it consciously made scam or bad deal? | ||
Filmbuff Side Hero Username: Filmbuff Post Number: 9334 Registered: 11-2011 Posted From: 106.202.204.33 Rating: |
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/modis-decision-to-buy -36-rafales-shot-the-price-of-each-jet-up-by-41/article26019 165.ece Nice investigative report, very clear explanation. Maunmodi gadu ekkada unnadu. |
