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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 05:33 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

1) why were not sales tax collected from amazon and other internet sites at the start? how are they different from B&M stores? is that a policy oversight?




Amazon collects sales tax on its owned inventory in all 45 states that have a state sales tax. 'Its own inventory' is the key word. If he is talking about the third parties that sell (which is less than 50% of Amazon's business) through Amazon, thats different. If your 1985 president wants Amazon to collect taxes on behalf of these third parties (which is an old issue that some retailers dont charge taxes), that favors Amazon as that will make these other products be costlier than Amazon's own inventory products and make them even more beneficial.


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since amazon runs primarily on USPS for deliveries back in the day, they could have bargained better? why we care usps since it is govt agency. its debts are people debts. you and me. our tax money goes there eventually. it is a retrospective discussion. if USPS knows what it knows today back then, they would have asked for more price.




Why should Amazon think about USPS if they will not get the necessary SLA's and cost savings through USPS. Amazon used USPS (and still uses among others) but if the arrangement doesnt meet their customer needs, they should be free to build their own logistics arrangements.

Again Why should govt poke their head into these things and tell businesses how to run their business. If the USPS heavy engine doesnt meet the needs of the ciitizens and is wasting tax money, there are other ways to take care of those. Dont forcefully rub these non value add services (in today's world) on corporates and citizens.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 05:17 pm:       


Cool_indian:



you are talking about 2 different things. just answer these 2 questions

1) why were not sales tax collected from amazon and other internet sites at the start? how are they different from B&M stores? is that a policy oversight?
2) since amazon runs primarily on USPS for deliveries back in the day, they could have bargained better? why we care usps since it is govt agency. its debts are people debts. you and me. our tax money goes there eventually. it is a retrospective discussion. if USPS knows what it knows today back then, they would have asked for more price.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 05:11 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Principle anna word li8 teesukunnara. there is no direct link. we build these safeguards so things dont get exploited. USPS was guard down and it snot get much benefit .




Where do you draw the line? Do you want to stop hotel chains from expanding so that the Motel6's can survive and make money?
Do you want to stop netflix like companies so the local DVD/VHS shops can survive?
Why did we allow retails (brick and mortar) to expand if the local retail store's can sell clothes etc?

Where is the principle here? Where do you draw the line?

USPS lost money for the past 15 years even before Amazon was relevant
Brick and Mortar is not the way to make money anymore. If not Amazon, then it is something else. There are companies that got shutdown and are making more money becuase of Amazon and ebay models with much less capital than before.

This president from 1985 doesnt get it. And people like you do tana tandana. Ask Trump to make his Trump caps using these mom and pops and not in China. While you are at it, tell him, he needs to display the country of manufacture on his stuff. it is illegal otherwise
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 04:48 pm:       


Cool_indian:

labor laws are to protect employees from exploitation by employers and protecting the rights of the workers (by providing good working conditions and pay enough salaries). Min wage discussion has nothing to do with Amazon's way of doing business.



Principle anna word li8 teesukunnara. there is no direct link. we build these safeguards so things dont get exploited. USPS was guard down and it snot get much benefit .
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 04:45 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

adhe principle ayithe, why do we have labor laws? what are these minimum wages.




labor laws are to protect employees from exploitation by employers and protecting the rights of the workers (by providing good working conditions and pay enough salaries). Min wage discussion has nothing to do with Amazon's way of doing business.

 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 04:29 pm:       


Emc2:

comptative rate istharu kani USPS ni bathikinchadaniki why should amazon care



adhe principle ayithe, why do we have labor laws? what are these minimum wages.

everybody agrees its not amazon fault but the situation is exploited. we should not let that happen in future. amazon deploye dother tax evasion strategies in the past.

Rocketk2:

nka entha Kalam idhanta alochinchi ane matalu ani nammutharu!??



who cares about who said it. if it is said by6 hi8llary, do you support it,. then support this too.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 04:24 pm:       


Biggboss:

deeniki kuda chakra vyuham, reasons multi folded antara



Not really. Akkada Bezos, Wapo (owned by Bezos)....a little bit of personal agenda. ariste karusta antunnadu. Rest for base.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 04:12 pm:       

Amazon is the second largest employer in US (after Walmart). Half a million employees added (most of them in the last 10 years). This doesnt show the millions of business that were formed and flourishing due to Amazon. This president from 1985 still thinks mom and pops are being crucified by Amazon. This is the same discussion that happened with Walmart since (several decades). Corp orates go out of business because they dont adopt. Its BS that Amazon is making USPS go out of business.

Its all about Bezos owning WaPo and going after him
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 02:26 pm:       


Emc2:

meeku antha concern unte stop buying from am and support local stores




ycp vunckle uses coal for cooking, heating, buys from local grown organically raised produce and only buys US manufactured cars, electronics ani cheppamannadu
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 02:09 pm:       


Jai_ycp:




why should amzon pay taxes like brick and motor..

what ever state and FTC mandates they will pay, they are working according to rules

don't say that in order to sustain buy from brick and mortor stores..

meeku antha concern unte stop buying from am and support local stores
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 02:05 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

but only peanuts ani kadha trump anedhi which is true.




comptative rate istharu kani USPS ni bathikinchadaniki why should amazon care
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 01:39 pm:       


Gsn1:

Trump has valid points when it comes to taxes. Amazon doesn't pay taxes in some states or unevenly pays taxes among states.


trump doesn't pay taxes owing to a tax law that gives real estate builders a significant loophole to claim losses. A multi billionaire not paying taxes!! Is it wrong. He said he is smart to use the law for his advantage without breaking it. What is it that Amazon is doing differently. What law are they breaking ,


My perspective is this . Most of the times , nothing is wrong if it is consistent. That is principle alignment. If President trump feels any corporation that gets undue advantage from existing circumstances 'legally' need to be regulated, his thought process is correct . However, if he picks and chose when it needs to be regulated, he most likely will be wrong.
This is the president who signed a corporate tax law which even made staunch conservatives feel it went farther than it should !! What is his problem with Amazon again??? They pay less taxes ?? Compared to who. In the new tax laws, real estate is paying 10% effective tax. How about that??
Amazon is using the same 'delivery boy'( did he really say this!??) US government is using and paying more than them!!


Environmental regulations akkaraledhu, finance regulations akkaraledhu, safety regulations akkaraledhu ...Kani the people I hold grudge against meedha regulations kavalai ante.. aa argument ni face value meedha teesukovala .. vadha anedhi Chala important consideration!!

Inka entha Kalam idhanta alochinchi ane matalu ani nammutharu!??

Every thing about this criticism indicates a 'confused narcissist' whose motives are impure !!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 01:22 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Amazon is a behemoth.




MSFT, AAPL, GOOG, FB - they are all behemoths, I don't see him attacking constantly

actually he is in fact silent on Faecbook camabridge analytica data breach...ideally he should be worried about citizen's privacy and do something about it

deeniki kuda chakra vyuham, reasons multi folded antara

adhi antha kaadhu kani...Mexico will pay for its wall nundi Military should pay for the wall annadu...deeniki enti reasons
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:54 pm:       

Amazon aa***lu kuda peekaledu.....try chesukommanu
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:53 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

basic ga neeku trump is scared of russia ane feelign vundhi.




its fact...
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:47 pm:       

amazon tho petukuntey dolla teerutundii thatha ki. he should be careful
beedi hatavoo desh batchavoooooo
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:44 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Amazon is a behemoth. If Trump is attacking them, his reasons could be multi-folded.




You mean 8D chess

 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:36 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

me line of defense emiti?




naa line of defense okkatey, personal grudge tho attack chesthunnadu Amazon ni...work with congress to pass a law, ila public ga laagi emi peekuthadu...Amzn stock volatility penchatam thappa

Trump gadini oka framework create cheyyamanu, mexico will pay for the wall nundi, build wall through M! annavaraku vachindhi


idhi kuda anthey...two days taruvatha inko issue, cycle repeat
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:31 pm:       


Sachin:

world anthaaa chesaaru..dikkuleka chesaadule.....sontha allies lone chala contries ni kelikaaadu...why no name calling wrt to rusia..



chetshe nemo andaru chesaru kabatti chesadu anatvu. cheyyakapothelove antavu. basic ga neeku trump is scared of russia ane feelign vundhi. emi incident jargina you will convey the same.

expelling diplomats and implementing sanctions are more hurtful to rusia then trump tweeting putin as an assole.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:29 pm:       


Gotcha:

ee trum gadi edupu aa jeffe bezos newspaper valla emo




ofcourse.....
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:29 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

If Trump is attacking them, his reasons could be multi-folded.




antha ledh aada. WaPo lo eedni support jesthu rendu articles raasthey malla thagguthadu. eediki lechindey lediki parugu. nothing else matters.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:28 pm:       


Manthri:



Biggboss:



Enigmatic:



me line of defense emiti?

trump vedhava kabatti amazon vedhava aina parvaledha?. trump might have effected hundreds at most if not tens and amazon effected millions if not thousands impact is high.

leka

trump vedhava kabatti amazon ni emi anakoodadha?

manchi evadu cheppina manche
chedu evadu cheppina chede
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:28 pm:       

ee trum gadi edupu aa jeffe bezos newspaper valla emo
...
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:23 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

did amazon pay taxes like brick & mortar stores? no? t




lol. Trump gadu pay chesada, on top of it "I am smart" anatadu ..taxes eggottadaniki
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:22 pm:       


Sachin:

amazon did not do any illegala but it used a flaw in system to develop.




jeevitham lo enadu incometax pay cheyyani Trump gadu , Amazon ni anadam
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:15 pm:       


Gsn1:

Amazon doesn't pay taxes in some states or unevenly pays taxes among states.




Amazon doesn't pay antey...different meaning vastundhi...Amazon doesn't collect sales tax anedhi correct ...BTW Amazon used a loophole, if you buy from a thirdy party seller Amzn doesn't collect sales tax

generally at the end of the year, it's your responsibility to list the items pay taxes...kani constitution thumping citizens do this..
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:13 pm:       


Aquarian:

asal eedu kadathada tax eedi properties ki?




who knows.....returns kooda choopinchadugaaa...
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:12 pm:       


Aquarian:

ada tax e



ayana kattadam pakkanapetti. plumbers, carpenters, cleaning companies, flooring lanti mom and pop business ki dabbulu egadobutadu pani cheyinchukuni. ade kakunda trump university ani mosam chestadu. akhariki lawyers ki kuda dabbulu kattadu.

 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:11 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

anukenana monna diplomats expel chesaru. trump vachakaa russia meedha enni actions teesukunnaro telusa.




world anthaaa chesaaru..dikkuleka chesaadule.....sontha allies lone chala contries ni kelikaaadu...why no name calling wrt to rusia..
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:09 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

anukenana monna diplomats expel chesaru. trump vachakaa russia meedha enni actions teesukunnaro telusa.



congress pass chesina sanctions ne mukkutha mooluguthaa chesaadule...pellethu mata anamanu putin ni...uchaaaa...world lo andarinee kelukuthaadugaaaa....

Jai_ycp:

did amazon pay taxes like brick & mortar stores? no? there is a disadvantage which was reversed now but it had an impact. amazon did not do any illegala but it used a flaw in system to develop. we should learn from this and ensure future does not have this occurrence.




so amazon followed the law..and trump is lashing at them for doing so?
 

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Jai_ycp:

if he stays silent, she cant drag him to court.




aina actress tho affair endi chandalamga, of course eedi level anthe anipistundi. vikaram
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       

asal eedu kadathada tax eedi properties ki?
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:05 pm:       

Trump has valid points when it comes to taxes. Amazon doesn't pay taxes in some states or unevenly pays taxes among states.

Regarding Postal service, I don't think, Trump has a valid point as Amazon is paying market rate for USPS with whatever discounts they provide for bulk mailing. If USPS has think margins, it is their own business model and Amazon has nothing to do with it.

Regarding Monopoly, I agree Amazon is becoming behemoth (it already is) and threatening lot of businesses.

Trump is NOT totally wrong in his allegations.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 12:04 pm:       


Sachin:

so amazon valla usps ki loss endi? is he violating any laws?




Bharat:

.online shops valla 'brick and mortar' shops ki loss anta...alaa ayithe machines anni teesidngu manufacturing lo...andaru chethulatho pani chestharu...computers teesi dngu....typists lani pettukuntaru


did amazon pay taxes like brick & mortar stores? no? there is a disadvantage which was reversed now but it had an impact. amazon did not do any illegala but it used a flaw in system to develop. we should learn from this and ensure future does not have this occurrence.

Sachin:

rump gaado item gaaadu....anni allegations chesina •••• stars ni pallethu mata analedu....putin gaadnate ucha....



anukenana monna diplomats expel chesaru. trump vachakaa russia meedha enni actions teesukunnaro telusa.

stormy meedha matladaka potaniki reason very commonly used legal strategy. if trump denies or calls her a liar, stormy can sue him for personnel damage and trump has to depose. if he stays silent, she cant drag him to court.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:48 am:       

vaadi pindaakudu....online shops valla 'brick and mortar' shops ki loss anta...alaa ayithe machines anni teesidngu manufacturing lo...andaru chethulatho pani chestharu...computers teesi dngu....typists lani pettukuntaru

automation/online...veetini aapadam ante arachettho suryudini aapinatte
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:47 am:       


Jai_ycp:

but only peanuts ani kadha trump anedhi which is true.




so amazon valla usps ki loss endi? is he violating any laws?

trump gaado item gaaadu....anni allegations chesina stars ni pallethu mata analedu....putin gaadnate ucha....
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:45 am:       

I also believe, it should be broken into multiple companies...

lekapothe eedi valla monopoly vachi chala industries nakesthunnayi
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:44 am:       

Amazon is a behemoth. If Trump is attacking them, his reasons could be multi-folded.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:37 am:       


Biggboss:

Vaadu cheppatam sarey...USPS actually makes money of AMZN...



but only peanuts ani kadha trump anedhi which is true.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:35 am:       

Vaadu cheppatam sarey...USPS actually makes money of AMZN...
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 11:31 am:       

kummu raja kummu..........
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-escalates-at tack-on-amazon-slams-it-on-taxes-shipping/ar-AAveYy8?li=BBnb fcL&ocid=mailsignout

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