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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:47 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:17 pm:       


Nightfury:

Similarly, there are planes, axis etc are valid with in solar system.. with respect to Sun.. here the reference point is sun.



ok, all planets revolving around the sun are coplanar, with some degree of error along the z-axis, if there is one.
Each planet exerts gravity on one another causing the slightest degree of error.
Perfect plane definitely doesn't exist in reality.
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 06:01 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

how can one study plane and axis relative to solar system when the solar system itself is relative to the milky way galaxy, and the galaxy and the solar system both are non-stationary.



Please remove the speedo meter in your car. Its useless.. it doesn't show the right speed you are traveling. And, as per your theory, we cant talk about your car speed against earth's surface.. when the earth, solar sys and the whole galaxy is moving.


Jambalahaart_raja:

The speed at which earth is revolving around the sun is 30 km/sec.



you are contradicting yourself.. You said when ebtire galaxy moving, we can not study about the plane, then how can you study the speed of earth when the whole Solar system, galaxies, milkyway, universe etc etc moving at very high speeds..

Raja, the whole point is about relativity. when you are in a train, your co passenger appears stationary to you... but the same person is moving at 150kmph for somebody looking from the platform.
Similarly, there are planes, axis etc are valid with in solar system.. with respect to Sun.. here the reference point is sun.

Feel free to correct me if anything is wrong..
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 05:29 pm:       


Nightfury:

the plane and axis are relative to solar system.



how can one study plane and axis relative to solar system when the solar system itself is relative to the milky way galaxy, and the galaxy and the solar system both are non-stationary.
The speed at which earth is revolving around the sun is 30 km/sec.
Escape velocity on earth itself is 11.8 km/sec.
The sun is revolving around the center of the milky galaxy at a speed of 8 lakh 28 thousand km per hour. The sun and it's system has completed 4 revolutions at 230 million years per revolution around the center of our galaxy.
The milky way galaxy and the andromeda galaxy are approaching each other at 900 thousand miles per hour.
The solar system isn't just 9 planets, there are many more exo-planets, and the oort cloud consisting of several meterorites, asteroids, comets etc, whose path of revolution around the sun isn't fully learnt.
Earth is safe because jupiter and saturn exert their gravity on anything that enters into this closest system of our sun.
Here's more on our solar system where oort cloud is supposedly the outmost layer.
https://space-facts.com/wp-content/uploads/oort-cloud.png

the image that 9 planets revolve around the sun in one plane is actually incorrect and mis-leading.
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 03:44 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

There is no concept of plane and axis in such a large space.


Here in this discussion, the plane and axis are relative to solar system. Not space as whole.
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 02:15 pm:       

This is the correct visual.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/6b/f2/ce6bf24031d44c14c4b5 7a7ec677c28e.gif
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 02:13 pm:       

Actually you are all wrong.
The solar system and the milky way galaxy are constantly moving in infinite space. There is no concept of plane and axis in such a large space.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=image s&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi_pomp8MjXAhXEWSYKHcW6AY8QjR wIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fexplainlikeimfiv e%2Fcomments%2F3beefv%2Feli5_why_do_all_the_planets_revolve_ around_the%2F&psig=AOvVaw0dUGyG_yhJGELglC9o7wC8&ust=15111204 02649277
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 12:30 pm:       


Doosukelta:




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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 10:19 am:       


Doosukelta:



Watch the video from 1:40 min
That should help you understand how a randomly placed solar system became flat

https://youtu.be/tmNXKqeUtJM
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:59 am:       

It all goes with gravitational force.

Sun, galaxy, all have the gravitational force and that makes all in fall in one shape.
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:49 am:       


Doosukelta:



Well I will try to explain with the knowledge I have
If you take the entire galaxy out solar system is very tiny
And even in that solar system, our Sun very huge( mass) compare to all the planets combined
Now we know that the suns gravity is trying to pull all those planets so that makes all the planets in tack in side the solar system at the same time the Sun is rotating on its own axis and here comes the centrifugal force which tries to pull all the planets in the same axis and since the the suns axis is horizontal and the due to centrifugal force all the mass tries to converge towards the center most of the planets will be in the horizontal plane.
Now you cannot have a stable centrifugal system when you have planets rotating perpendicular and even if they existed, over a period of time they would either decline or try to come inline with the suns rotating axis to forge a stable system

Take example of sudharshana chakra ( imaging it’s a spherical ball with a hole in between) and your fingure is the centrifugal force and now even if you try to attach strings with small balls at the end in different directions and try them rotating it’s not possible as the axis of rotation and the centrifugal force which is greater than the gravitational pull of the center is higher and makes it to rotate
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:35 am:       


Doosukelta:

All planets one axis lo yenduku unnavigable why are there no planets in axis perpendicular to ours and diagonal to ours ???

AnnI planets oka line laga revolving in one axis around sun why??





For this, I think you have to learn about how solar system was formed
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:34 am:       


Doosukelta:


I also know it but why ane kada thread vesindi.. Google lo 10 pages vetikina no answer




https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/ask-ethan-82-why-are-t he-planets-all-in-the-same-plane-4470245c8743
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 09:15 am:       


Doosukelta:


I also know it but why ane kada thread vesindi.. Google lo 10 pages vetikina no answer



Digitalspy:




hope this helped
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 08:45 am:       


Digitalspy:

All the planets move around the Sun in almost the same plane. As if some road is constructed. The maximum up/down variation is 7 degrees or so



Digitalspy:





I also know it but why ane kada thread vesindi.. Google lo 10 pages vetikina no answer
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 08:44 am:       

ilaa enduku planets form ayyaayo reason theliyadu

The dust & gasses were like a disk around the Sun, before the planets were 'born'. This was rotating around Sun at high speeds. This might be a result of some collision or something ? I donno.

while each planet is 'born' from the settled dust and other gasses, it tends to orbit around the barycentre of the Sun. The planet will continue to move around the Sun in the same orbit, in which it used to rotate around the Sun while it was a mass of dust.
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 08:39 am:       


Doosukelta:


All planets one axis lo yenduku unnavigable why are there no planets in axis perpendicular to ours and diagonal to ours ???



pluto undi. it orbits around Sun in an inclined path.
All the planets move around the Sun in almost the same plane. As if some road is constructed. The maximum up/down variation is 7 degrees or so
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:53 am:       

you will never ask "why ?"

you will always conclude "that's why"

because goddidit... believe it and find the piece...

ya allah madad... ya allah madad... give him a piece...

there is no peace to us without out a piece to him... jesus christ... do something...
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:49 am:       


Doosukelta:




Perpendicular or different axis lo kooda vundochu. Over the period of time collisions Ayi consolidate ayinatharuvaatha final gaa itla settle ayinai
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:31 am:       

I didn’t find answer in first two pages of google everyone are talking about spin and rotation but no one are talking about actual orbital orientation around sun....

All planets have orbitals in one particular axis never seen a perpendicular or diagonal orbital
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:24 am:       

So this is our solar system....

https://www.google.de/search?q=solar+system&rlz=1C9BKJA_enDE 766DE766&hl=en-US&prmd=ivmn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0a hUKEwj8gaX9k8jXAhUIORoKHW2XAu8Q_AUIESgB&biw=1112&bih=719#img rc=DamKibOY2DrtgM:

All planets one axis lo yenduku unnavigable why are there no planets in axis perpendicular to ours and diagonal to ours ???

AnnI planets oka line laga revolving in one axis around sun why??

https://www.google.de/search?q=milky+way&rlz=1C9BKJA_enDE766 DE766&oq=miley+way&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.3329j0j9&hl=en-US& sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=SDyBXdvNgciSZM:

This is a galaxy same here accretion around one axis not as bunch of circle ....which means always galaxies occur in spiral shapes but never I see spherical galaxys why???
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