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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2017 - 01:22 am:       

Mughals didnt come below current T area

Aurangazeb who was the one expanded the Mughal region fought with Marathas for more than 20 years and then died and after his death Mughal dynasty was just nothing

Vijayanagar stopped Deccan Sultanates

Only king who screwed up Hindus in South India is Tippu Sultan

He is the one who converted Malabar region of Kerala and massacred coorg people

Nizams never won any significant wars on their own, majority of the period they paid protection money to British to have their kingdom
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 03:30 pm:       


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Another point
- Taj has 7 floor basement
- apartments to reside
- 500 rooms
- interior water tunnel to supply water for all floors
- guest rooms
- large spacious open areas
- music house, cattle area




atlane Ellora meeda Youtube lo okati rendu videos unnai..avi kooda choodandi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 03:28 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

If the Indian kings did not practise the principle of warfare - enni saru kshaminchi vadilaru satruvulani the history would have been different




They acted differently than Sri Krishna Preached. Beasts should not be pardoned
Pardon chesi , Mottam dobba bettaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 01:33 pm:       


Siloan:

absolutely ..we still had bhayya influence




meeru kummanante oka maata..bhayya prabhavam least unna places lo another enemy has entered..its much more intelligent and looks friendly..silent ga impact ekkuva..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:55 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:



thank you
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:54 pm:       


Siloan:

due to krishnadevaraya and nayaks ?
watever they are blessed


to an extent. Meeku interest unte history thread okati open chesukoni we can talk about indian medieval history or you can refer to some authentic books online

one of my favorite reads
https://www.amazon.in/Books-R-C-Majumdar/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh =n%3A976389031%2Cp_27%3AR.C.%20Majumdar

PDF form download of one of the books
https://ia801602.us.archive.org/29/items/in.ernet.dli.2015.2 79506/2015.279506.An-Advanced.pdf
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:51 pm:       


Ruj:

kostha kooda blessed eega ee lekkana..



absolutely ..we still had bhayya influence
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:49 pm:       


Siloan:

watever they are blessed




kostha kooda blessed eega ee lekkana..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:35 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:

hope you got the answer you were looking for



due to krishnadevaraya and nayaks ?
watever they are blessed
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 12:32 pm:       


Siloan:

e thred lo serious gaane adiga...info kosam...bemma ikon ese sariki reply lo allukupoya


hope you got the answer you were looking for
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:53 am:       


Okahyderabadi:

adi eppudu naa meede



e thred lo serious gaane adiga...info kosam...bemma ikon ese sariki reply lo allukupoya
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:52 am:       


Siloan:

guri choochi vestha


adi eppudu naa meede
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:50 am:       


Okahyderabadi:

naku enti ee offer



guri choochi vestha
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:49 am:       


Siloan:

anna garu ...tamilnadu loki enduku chocchukuni vellaledau nizams? vallu always proud of their untouched ,,,


naku enti ee offer. By the time the last of the Mughals were out the deccan plateau had undergone lot of leadership changes - krishnadevaraya kept the bahmani sultans in check most of the time, the french, british had better arms and had pockets of strong presence and by late 1700 and early 1800's had become a sizeable force having pan india presence. Nizams were not a very strong military force that could engage in military and was basically a bottom feeder
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:49 am:       


Bharateeyudu:

nizam vassal evaro rule chesaru north of tamilnadu..



only top districts...avi kooda peruki nawabs...culturally pedda changes vundav
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:47 am:       


Ruj:

nizam vassal evaro rule chesaru north of tamilnadu..



Bharateeyudu:

arcot nawabs kaun hainnn???




ejjatly veele..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:46 am:       

muslims south ki expand chese timeki Britishers french took over tamil nadu.

also marathas from tanjavaru..

with north portion under nizam vassal..


if they think that is their achievement then god bless..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:45 am:       


Siloan:

tamilnadu loki enduku chocchukuni vellaledau nizams?



arcot nawabs kaun hainnn???
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:44 am:       


Siloan:

anna garu ...tamilnadu loki enduku chocchukuni vellaledau nizams? vallu always proud of their untouched ,,,




nizam vassal evaro rule chesaru north of tamilnadu..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:38 am:       


Okahyderabadi:



anna garu ...tamilnadu loki enduku chocchukuni vellaledau nizams? vallu always proud of their untouched ,,,
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 11:33 am:       


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If the Indian kings did not practise the principle of warfare - enni saru kshaminchi vadilaru satruvulani the history would have been different.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:48 am:       


Ruj:

after that it took him long time before planning for another war..of course he never invaded gujarat after that..rather chose northwest..appudu prithvi raj chauhan tho malli odipoyi second time kodathadu..rest is history...




This is what i was saying. the so called great war professional could not win easily , they had to do many attempts

Here people were talking about feeling and dying in the war by Rajputs. Many Muslim Middle eastern kings did this in the war to escape death, some time left pardoned. its part of the game, nothing to ridicule

These people were pictured as if they conquered everything in one go and ultimate warriors. Anta unna, final ga no body could finish their dreams

So there is no point in ridiculing some kings who died in the battle field
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:44 am:       


Masularex:

hemu's army was predominantly muslim... he had lost his entire artillery even before the war... he had no support from the delhi and surrounding areas... moguls had the terrain advantage...




Not true Bro. Hemu was in total advatage position that why he came to battle field with over confidence. Moghul commander was prepared to flee with Akbar on that day, who was stationed safely at the back, which is strategic.

Just king open ga ravadam valla, debba padindi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:41 am:       


Mamamiya786:

Before mughals the sultanate of delhi is not that strong ..... but they couldn't win over them...
And aurangzeb dead ..they didn't even dare to fight with mughals ...




Rajputs are always fragmented, they never had big kingdoms. that doesnt mean that they did not fight well and gave resistance. no one wants to loose battle and die in the war. with their limited resource they fought well

The problem is they donot have unity

is was only after multiple attempts things got captured

Delhi was never the target for any one, until Moughuls and pre Mouguls. there were better capitals each kingdom was having, because it has easy access and resources , every middle eastern guy settled there, so that they have better control to stop outsiders
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:39 am:       


Mamamiya786:

too much arrogant and prudish kings.



Last_avataar:

e can never ignore the fights of Tribal Jat kings and other kingdoms in the North. Jats, Maratas, Vinaya Nagara, some Rajputs etc are some examples




yes added to it..

chalukyas..superb veelu..read abt Naikidevi..husband poyi tana 7yr old abbayi king avuthadu..muhammad ghori aa time choosi he attacks gujarat..aa timelo she forms alliances with surrounding kingdoms and goes for a war with ghori and almost destroys him..

pranalu chethulo pettukuni laggethuthadu...idhi persian muslim bookslo kooda rasi undi..

after that it took him long time before planning for another war..of course he never invaded gujarat after that..rather chose northwest..appudu prithvi raj chauhan tho malli odipoyi second time kodathadu..rest is history...


naikidevi is not even mentioned in our history books..

also Ahom kingdom of northeast, though initially lost some territoy but later gave nightmares to mughals..

also i forgot the name..but how a dhobi guy defeats ghazni's general..

ila chala stories unnayi..muslim conquest of india wasnt simple..it happened in phases by diff kings over a period of 500+yrs..still india remained unfinished business..


Mamamiya786:

Can't change the history but atleast we should learn from our mistakes .




looking at todays politcs i dont think we learnt much..in fact we are worse..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:35 am:       


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chinese ki vallake dikku ledu AA TIME LO. THEY were constantly attacked by Mangolian tribes and other Asian tribes

Chinese kingdoms were largely like India, never used to attack much focusing more on trade and development

it is fact every one knows the role of Himalayas. Every country has its own geographical advantages and disadvantages

At one time Akhanda Bharat used to be upto Iran/Iraq area even in far east. so it was an evolving times. territories are always captured and lost

I read recently the India had cultural bonds with the Mesopotamian civilization, now the region of Iraq and Iran. Yazidis of Iraq are ancient Hindu priests of Gobleki Tepi temples. ... These Yazidis are monotheists they are islam but they have customs similar to some vedic traditions even today like illuminating fire, idol worship etc

These tribes are being targetted by ESES due to cultural differences.

So as British wrongly understood, and brainwashed on Aryan Invasion from middle east. it is the Vast India that spread upto Iran/Iraq and the people lived in those areas migrated and settled at different places finally. so that why there is a mix.

The Gaba place of Mecca was once a Idol worship place , later with the advent of mohd all idol worship denied and destroyed. The holy well even there still today , was used like Ganga waster as in India.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:35 am:       

bairam khan killed hemu... young akbar refused to kill a dying man... as for the history...

hemu's army was predominantly muslim... he had lost his entire artillery even before the war... he had no support from the delhi and surrounding areas... moguls had the terrain advantage...

king, leader or main commander personally participating in the war melee is a bad idea... hemu and aliya rama raya did the same mistake...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:34 am:       


Last_avataar:

May be Rajputs have some pride in participating in the war. as they may not be having strong second line to lead




"fight until death" == with out any strategy ... what the heck ...
war is like sport for them..they take pride in dieing...

when ranthamobr was fallen 20 to 30 though rajputs were killed on that day ...or may be more ...

after chittore falls ,, every other rajput lost their confidence and just became their vassals of khilji...it s royal entry for him one after other fort ......


if these guys are so much ..great , whey couldn't they win even single war ... They always talk about resistance .
Before mughals the sultanate of delhi is not that strong ..... but they couldn't win over them...
And aurangzeb dead ..they didn't even dare to fight with mughals ...
post aurangzeb its a big mess ... from 1705 to next 100 years .... every other governor in aurang zen kingdom ,has became a king but rajputs are just loyal to them...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:25 am:       


Siloan:

...IP man soosava....japs kummesaaru allani...recent economic strength soosi alleyoddu




kiki ...valla ela vunna ... manalni easy ga kotte vallu ..they have two great kingdoms.which ruled for a long time...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:24 am:       


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At the time India was attacked from 1000 AD, kings were largely relaxed and focusing more on other aspects than fine tuning their armies, where as the armies marched from middle east are constantly training in battle fields , were ready. yet it was never easy for them any time, thanks to the Brave land of Kings, people resilience , intellectuals, Bhakti movement, Over all geography




it took 500 years to win to reach delhi from Sindh...thats how we fought....when compared personas and other courtiers ..yes.. tremendous job..

any way end of day , we lost that whole part now including kashmir and bangladesh...
Can't change the history but atleast we should learn from our mistakes .
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:22 am:       


Mamamiya786:

bro ,if we do not have himalayas ...chinese would have occupied india a long back



yem maattadutunnav....IP man soosava....japs kummesaaru allani...recent economic strength soosi alleyoddu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:22 am:       


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you are right. Individual greatness is only when one on one , or one on Many
But in the war front, you never know from which direction the attack comes

Thats the reason why even in Mahabharata, the so called great warriors, had to fight their best efforts and use astras to kill enemies, and they themselves wounded and got diverted so many time . May be Rajputs have some pride in participating in the war. as they may not be having strong second line to lead

Thats why many times wars are not fought before. kings tried alternatives
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:21 am:       


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Also we think that wars are like we see in movies, but generally during the invasions , kings have indirect discussions, alliances , agreements , dis agreements. History saw many mutual agreement between kings of different origins for mutual benefit and some other reasons

At the time India was attacked from 1000 AD, kings were largely relaxed and focusing more on other aspects than fine tuning their armies, where as the armies marched from middle east are constantly training in battle fields , were ready. yet it was never easy for them any time, thanks to the Brave land of Kings, people resilience , intellectuals, Bhakti movement, Over all geography




bro ,if we do not have himalayas ...chinese would have occupied india a long back ..the only way to enter india is khybar pass ...and we can not save ourself from these buggers...

too many small kingdoms is thre reason ..agree.
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:18 am:       


Ruj:

..im not questioning their bravery(maharana pratap etc) but in general




individual bravery doesn't mean any thing....they loose war and they ready for wars with in 4/5 years..even though they know that it is suicidal . Some great warriors were there . but as a unit big failure.
infacet rana pratap did not even fight with akbar ...he fought with man singh ..he is good enough to defeat him. too much arrogant and prudish kings.
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:13 am:       


Ruj:




Rajputs never had Unity among them, Had they had things would have been different

e can never ignore the fights of Tribal Jat kings and other kingdoms in the North. Jats, Maratas, Vinaya Nagara, some Rajputs etc are some examples


funny part is both sides used to have mix of soldiers from all groups
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:12 am:       


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don�t know the reason why luck smiled heavily on these middle eastern barbarians , may be it is destined




i don't see it as a luck ....its pure war ...and war strategies ....that won by these areas and afghan.
Even the great persona kingdom just evaporated ... they have huge armies etc..but out dated...

same case with our guys...we all have armies with not well trained .. using elephants vs horstes
afghans use these ballem okkoti 9 aduugulu vs 6/7 of indians ..etc
they have better trained arrowers..the best in those days..

and on top of that they are always war ready ... from the back ground they came from they always look to win over india for more wealth.
The other side ..is not united ...they have not much experience in big wars..anni bagunnodiki pakka desala meeda daadi cheyalanna alochana endukuntunidi ...

motto kalisi saantham nakichharu india ni ...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 10:09 am:       


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I think by the time these attacks started , kingdoms were largely scattered and became small

to win a war one needs
- good size army, strategists. weapons, agile horses, elephants, fire powers, mostly
- SAME WAY Puru the tribal king fought gallantly with Alexander Army, still i feel its stall mate with Greeks hailing as Victory, but Alex was definitely wounded badly in that war. that was the reason to end the campaign. Again one of the greatest warrior and strategist , leader and King was wounded by a soldiers spear.

Your point is very valid, some of the Indian Kings entered the battle fray, resulted in death.

But it is not easy for any country to fight for 800 years and continue to maintain its identity and absorb every one. that shows the spirit of few pockets of Indian kings.

Also we think that wars are like we see in movies, but generally during the invasions , kings have indirect discussions, alliances , agreements , dis agreements. History saw many mutual agreement between kings of different origins for mutual benefit and some other reasons

At the time India was attacked from 1000 AD, kings were largely relaxed and focusing more on other aspects than fine tuning their armies, where as the armies marched from middle east are constantly training in battle fields , were ready. yet it was never easy for them any time, thanks to the Brave land of Kings, people resilience , intellectuals, Bhakti movement, Over all geography

**** It is clealy evident that Taj was built by Shah Jahan , as its main body on 4 sides resembles Buland Darwaja of Fatepur Sikri and Minerets and other architecture is from middle east. But it has Great Confluence of Vedic, Islamic and European styles available at that time shows the taste of Shah Jahan.

**** But this was not built from scratch on an empty land.
 

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i agree with you on the rajput part..

rules of sindh punjab gujarat maaatha south northeast(ahoms)were better warriors than these rajputs..enni sarlu debba tagilina they never learnt from history...

rajputs might be brave..im not questioning their bravery(maharana pratap etc) but in general i always felt they as a unit couldnt ever build a great empire because of frequent feudal group fighting with in..
 

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In medieval times , the muslim kings butild the towers with royal families to scare other kings are groups who can go against them..


ee range cover drive sachin kooda kottaledu emo..

they massacred innocent population,peasants 'Kaffirs' they called, in the name of allaxh..and by doing so they earned the title ghazi..akbar was no different..


it wasn't just war between two kingdoms..
 

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Last_avataar:

Also up until
1000 AD no afghan or magnolias tribe could pierce thru , due to strong kingdoms.




yes. piercing of his eye by an arrow ... is cause .
But looks different strategies. Our kings always want to be in war , lead them. But it always gave negative results whenever they fight with muslim. if the king fallen into the hands of opposition, that the end.
The turks always try to corner the king first.

7th sentry to 12 century we lost sind , punjab , NWfrontier ..and probably kandahar ....all these are hindu/buddish kingdoms...
it 500 years to take those places ...from 12 th sentry they entered delhi...
if we compare with other countries like persia , indonesiga ,malaysia ..definitely we fought well .

The great persian kingdom just gone ..with in years..s.
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Akbar good luck, hemu got hit by a freak arrow in the eye, leka pote almost done. Mamamiya please read proper history. Not all Rajputs were brave but who stood against were enough to inspire generations of them to fight. If your argument of Rajputs giving away their women as wives to save their kingdom is en example then there are umpteen examples of muslim rulers doing the same for political purposes, why Alexander himself married women from different tribes during his conquest.




yeah.....don't think that you only know history boss ....
Rajuputs has so many weaknesses ...they are not good as a unit ..period. And they are the cause for the downfall of india to these muslims. They are never united. lack of war strategies etc.
Marathas are much better in tackling muslims..ofcourse at a late age with previous experiences.

in so many cases , these girls are not even wifes....they were just sent to hareems. pathetic bastards.....
do you know how many people will be in hareems...one among 100s.... these girls come from great lineage ..
very sad to read this stuff..

Topic is some myths about history ..like taj and definitely the doubtful bravery of rajputs ..
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Akbar was minor at that time , with the care taker chief of the army. How can he will be let to participate in the war. But on the decisive day, he was with chief of the army on the backward point ready to flee, as they were seen fast loosing

Had Hemu not entered the war on open elephant with over confidence, and hit by frescene Maugham history would have finished on that day in India. As he was injured he was captured and killed. As he was injured and fell badly, his army lost heart and go Hay where.

I don’t know the reason why luck smiled heavily on these middle eastern barbarians , may be it is destined
 

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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 - 07:51 am:       

13 years kay, manushulani narikey those kings, in those days ...
are equivalent to present day serial killers and mass shooters
how many Ashoka killed? at least 1 lakh
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Akbar was not there in the war itself it seems when Hemu got killed and his soldiers got panicked and lost the war



correct. He was about 13 years or so at that time.
He was ready to flee, in case the war is lost
But I read somewhere that his troops captured hemu alive and brought him to akbar and akbar killed him with a sword and hanged his head on the fort.
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Akbar was not there in the war itself it seems when Hemu got killed and his soldiers got panicked and lost the war
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 11:40 pm:       

Okahyderabadi , hats off bro

As you rightly said, Young Akbar with his general were on the backward point of army, ready to escape Afghan, as the war with Hemu was almost lost

Hemu over exhuberance, came to war front to see how his army crushing the Mughals. A freak arrow hit his eye he fell down from elephant , and got severely injured, looking at that all his army lost thier heart and in the unfortunate turn of events, moghul rule established in India.

Also up until
1000 AD no afghan or magnolias tribe could pierce thru , due to strong kingdoms.
Only after disintegration, small kingdoms fell for those war monger if armies.

Yes Indian kings fought back for 800 years and preserved many of thier culture with the help of intellectuals and Bhakti movement and some valiant kingdoms
 

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Akbar gurinchi meeku telisinattu ledu...vadanta lafoot lambdike inkodu ledu...at least aurangajeb had the guts to say it was his islamic duty to kill hindus..akbar was a crooked megalomaniac guy..his special religion din-illahi was prime example of his mad ness....meeru ashutosh gowarikar jodhaa akbar chusi mee abhiprayani vastey nenem cheppalenu....
Hindus kharma kaali konni wars chetulaara dobbayi...like second battle of panipat, battle of tallikota etc., hemu ganaka second batlle lo konddi sepu batikina ee akbar batike vaddu kaadu...
remember one thing hindus lost battles not because of muslims but jaychands in hindus...

Manishi jeevtam lo gelavalantey undalsindi telivitetalu,intelligence kaadu...common sense aka moorghatvam lekapovadam...unfortunately hindu kings at those times had tons of it..


Akbar good luck, hemu got hit by a freak arrow in the eye, leka pote almost done. Mamamiya please read proper history. Not all Rajputs were brave but who stood against were enough to inspire generations of them to fight. If your argument of Rajputs giving away their women as wives to save their kingdom is en example then there are umpteen examples of muslim rulers doing the same for political purposes, why Alexander himself married women from different tribes during his conquest.

Unity was a major factor in why many of the Indian kings did not succeed against the invaders right from the days of Purushottam to the days of Rana Pratap or Ranjit singh. Rajulu forgot their responsibility in safegaurding the country and went after quick gains or easy way out.
In history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject research leads to new things every day
 

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ei mattadutunnav ....saami ...talking prithvi raj being defeated and killed in the war ..instead of taking to afgnastan blinding him..that was a myth..a poetic story create.d
he was killed right in terrain war and his son was made the king...


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Viswamitra:

so they using the same technique blast twin towers , kill ppl on streets,blast everything they dont like ..do you still say it is war and it is their strategy and kudos to them ?
what now your are seeing is the same version of war in an organized way happened since 800 yrs....
Now when islamic rulers killed hindus just because they are hindus, plundered temples just because they are temples you say it s war and strategy but when marathas looted some of enemy camps and villages you say they are bad boys...
this psuedo intelluctual pleasure ejaculations ki emaina ardham pardham unda mastaaru ??




if thats how you understand my argument ..what is th point in discussiong.
In medieval times , the muslim kings butild the towers with royal families to scare other kings are groups who can go against them..
edo personnel teeesukoni pisukkunte emostundi ..
History repeat avvakunda chusukovali ..gukka petti edchi ..cheripeyyalani chuste chergagdu ..
plenty of kings just gave therir daughts and sisters just to save thier kingdoms...please don't talk about bravery .. These people never united to fight ..and they are out daed in war techniques .. .

ANd taj build on some temple ..is fxxxxjoke to created .
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Akbar gurinchi meeku telisinattu ledu...vadanta lafoot lambdike inkodu ledu...at least aurangajeb had the guts to say it was his islamic duty to kill hindus..akbar was a crooked megalomaniac guy..his special religion din-illahi was prime example of his mad ness....meeru ashutosh gowarikar jodhaa akbar chusi mee abhiprayani vastey nenem cheppalenu....
Hindus kharma kaali konni wars chetulaara dobbayi...like second battle of panipat, battle of tallikota etc., hemu ganaka second batlle lo konddi sepu batikina ee akbar batike vaddu kaadu...
remember one thing hindus lost battles not because of muslims but jaychands in hindus...

Manishi jeevtam lo gelavalantey undalsindi telivitetalu,intelligence kaadu...common sense aka moorghatvam lekapovadam...unfortunately hindu kings at those times had tons of it...
 

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so they using the same technique blast twin towers , kill ppl on streets,blast everything they dont like ..do you still say it is war and it is their strategy and kudos to them ?
what now your are seeing is the same version of war in an organized way happened since 800 yrs....
Now when islamic rulers killed hindus just because they are hindus, plundered temples just because they are temples you say it s war and strategy but when marathas looted some of enemy camps and villages you say they are bad boys...
this psuedo intelluctual pleasure ejaculations ki emaina ardham pardham unda mastaaru ??
 

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o called akbar 33 thousand mandini chittorgarh lo champaadu..just civilians ni...adi mana great akbar kahaani...





may be that icidndnt happened. But by and large akbar wanted good harmony with hindus. thats why so many of his generals are hindus... he tried to make a deal with rana pratap till last minute . Then went to war .
yes..if no one listens ..they attack and they build towers with the skulls for royal family . this is there from beginning. we have to thank akbar . He definitely not a criminal minded person .. Till aurangzeb comes things were normal for people. agree or not.
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Viswamitra:

.jihad ani cheppi andari muddi naaki support sampandinchi edo gelichaadu...these burglers always and always used religion to create mob mentality and mob hysteria to invade conquer,plunder and loot...



agree....no doubt... that is their strength ..its war ..use every other strategy ...whats wrong...
you know marathas plundered templed in gujarat ..when ever they short of money ..they demolishd srirangapatnam temple etc. some things are hard to believe ..
war is a war ..you win for your people ..don't tell bull shit like dharma yuddda , vottakai after loosing. you are responsible for your people . these idiots failed miserably in attacking them...they fight them self and lost each one to the muslim kings.

after ranthambor ..there is no opposition for khilji...every rajput invited them inside ...standerd in front of them..this is their bravery.

Giving women to muslim kings was there in even before mughals ..even small muslim kings gujarat and malware were given women portected their kingdoms.... ..
i don't say cowards ..probably strategy .....
hats off to those women .... they saved their father's and brothers kingdoms ...by sacrificing them selfs .
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Good harmony--> mughal rulers hahaha...inta kanna pedda joke nenu vinaledu...
Romila thapar rasina history ni chadivitey anta kanna inkem ardham avutundi...

so called akbar 33 thousand mandini chittorgarh lo champaadu..just civilians ni...adi mana great akbar kahaani...

aa akbar birbal stories are just myths created to show as if there was a great harmony between akbar and hindu subjects...
akbarnama lo birbal anna word ee ledu....idi romila thapar lanti lanXXXa lu raasina boku puranam
 

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look at third battle of panipat...one of all time great battles...it was so fiercefully fought that ahmed shah abdali even though scored a victory had to go get lost to afghan without annexing or plundering the territories..it was a pyrrhic victory for him...Marathas lost because there was no support from rajputs and sikhs..kaani ahmed shah gaadu...jihad ani cheppi andari muddi naaki support sampandinchi edo gelichaadu...these burglers always and always used religion to create mob mentality and mob hysteria to invade conquer,plunder and loot...
 

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te, you know the serious fight back of Hindu kingdoms




kiki there is no serious fight back...rajputs gave their women to them ...and saved their kingdom and became vassals ..every other hindu king dome followed ...probably except marathas....
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Do you think these islamic kings won the battles on first attempt. they too fled many times becfore securing victory




the question is claiming unnecessary bravery and putting brand on muslim kings as cheaters ..but thats not true ..they are better in wars.
Leaving /fleding the war is a strategy and saving the day for some other time. Somehow ..rajputs/hindus claim it is a insult and always say that the muslim kings cheated and won.

Why india is completely converted . .it is not possible for a ruler to go against the wishes of majority . He can't make enemy of them . We know from mughal history that they always maintained good harmony with their subjects .

when khilji took the delhi crown , a lot of his soldier and generals are hindus ...kikiki... we are always projected some thing different .

Thats why it called a doubtful bravery of rajputs ...

if we don't learn from our mistakes and if we see the things the way that we want , then we are losers .
I am not against rajput or not in favor of muslims , ...any way i am resting my argument here ....later.
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infect both of them fled




Do you think these islamic kings won the battles on first attempt. they too fled many times becfore securing victory

Nuvu cheppedi nijam ayite India Eppudo full islamic ga convert ayyedi

Enduku avvaledo alochiste, you know the serious fight back of Hindu kingdoms
Before thier Grit, these foreign conquerors could not lost long

This is the true history
 

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who told you, you read some books.
The incident described above is real and it happens in afghan at specific place

Manam chadivinde Histpry, Daniki contradiction ledu anukunte emi cheyyalemu
History is written by

Many muslim kings were defeated and left came back and conquered
Dont try to glorify those barbarians and demean those people who fought for centuries ....

I am very glad that India has not become like other nations and did not covert to Islam. This is the greatest thing happened in Indian History, just because of the bravery of the certain pockets of Kingdoms in India

Because of them These Medieval barbarians could not spread thier religion and convert Indian
 

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cientific ga points mataldite, idi mee reaction

Inkenduku pedda open , tokka tolu , liberals ani shouting




bro ...afgharns were bette in war strategies and they are eager for victories ...unlike rajputs ..
They have defeated the raj puts in every other war in indi a...
rana sanga got defeated.
rana pratap got defaeated ...

infect both of them fled the war filed after the war ...

we can't change history ..we need to see from defeat point and learn from that .....
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Nee history lo na....
READ THIS

The medieval Muslim writers mention only one or two battles between the two rulers. The Tabaqat-i Nasiri and Tarikh-i-Firishta mention the two Battles of Tarain. Jami-ul-Hikaya and Taj-ul-Maasir mention only the second battle of Tarain, in which Prithviraj was defeated. However, the Hindu and Jain writers state that Prithviraj defeated Muhammad multiple times before being killed:

Carry on




ei mattadutunnav ....saami ...talking prithvi raj being defeated and killed in the war ..instead of taking to afgnastan blinding him..that was a myth..a poetic story create.d
he was killed right in terrain war and his son was made the king...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Scientific ga points mataldite, idi mee reaction

Inkenduku pedda open , tokka tolu , liberals ani shouting

If your belief is counter questioned you guys donot even ready

There are very clear sign on the foundation.
 

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Edo okati chesi akkada okappudu hindu raju tana bharya tho viharaniki use chesina place ga prove chesi koolcheyandi

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rajamouli bomma teeyali prithviraj meedha
bhayya gaallu choochukuntaaru records
 

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The Hammira Mahakavya claims that after defeating Muhammad for the first time, Prithviraj forced him to apologize to the princes whose territories he had ransacked, before letting him go. Muhammad invaded the Chahamana kingdom seven more times, but was defeated each time. However, his ninth invasion succeeded.
The Prithviraja Prabandha states that the two kings fought 8 battles.
The Prabandha Kosha claims that Prithviraj captured Muhammad 20 times, but was himself imprisoned during the 21st battle. The Surjana Charita and Prithviraj Raso also enumerate 21 battles.
The Prabandha Chintamani gives the number of battles as 23.
While these accounts seem to exaggerate the number, it is possible that more than two engagements took place between the Ghurids and the Chahamanas during Prithviraj's reign.[43] The early victories mentioned by the Hindu and Jain writers probably refer to Prithviraj's successful repulsion of raids by Ghurid generals
 

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Mamamiya786:

Lets not completely go by myths...




same here let us not go with myths... you too
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 02:57 pm:       


Mamamiya786:

infect he was killed right there in the war




Nee history lo na....
READ THIS

The medieval Muslim writers mention only one or two battles between the two rulers. The Tabaqat-i Nasiri and Tarikh-i-Firishta mention the two Battles of Tarain. Jami-ul-Hikaya and Taj-ul-Maasir mention only the second battle of Tarain, in which Prithviraj was defeated. However, the Hindu and Jain writers state that Prithviraj defeated Muhammad multiple times before being killed:

Carry on

Why there is prithivi raj samadhi in Afghan next to gOURI,WHICH local people insult every year as ritual with stones....
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 02:22 pm:       


Discoveringself:

mana politics kosama??...




kiki..nenu politics lo vunnana ...ni erri pu logic...

any way ..i am talking about myths in history ... there are plenty ...like prithivraj was taken and blinded etc..
infect he was killed right there in the war ...
and the treatment to the workers of tajmahal .e.tc...

786 , 286 etc .... is a diffrent topic.....

Lets not completely go by myths...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:38 pm:       


Mamamiya786:

This is all bull shit .. there is no proof for it ..in history.




mana politics kosama??...

evaro kooda kaadu....in their own books.....they have written how gloriously they butchered so many....so covering aapesthey better.....damn these sickulars.........
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:34 pm:       


Mamamiya786:

Mamamiya786




CAN YOU explain us the importance of number 786 in islam and how it originated ?
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:33 pm:       


Mamamiya786:




what is the authenticity of History you read from the books. History is always written by historians by looking into inscriptions, excavations, books written by kings courtiers , which is always on the positive side

Did you know many of these attacks by middle eastern barbarians were done multiple times , lost, pardoned, then came back and vanquished.

Indian would have become Islamic nation long back , had there been no Rajputs, Jats, Maratas, Deccan Kingdomes Vijaya Nagara etc. for close to 800 years they were all fighting , that prevented Islamization

Who will believe the crap of Seularism by these kings when they them selves killed umpteen hindus and converted so many destroyed and looted many temples.

Malli ee edavalaki prema kahaneelu, hundrends of harem women to tirige yedavalaki malli love ante , anta kanna comedy ledu
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:22 pm:       

https://scroll.in/article/854490/hindutva-history-sangeet-so m-is-only-recycling-old-myths-about-the-taj-mahal-and-shah-j ahan

There are so many myths in our history ...like
rajput bravery ....
Teese guys lost every other ware ..lost delphi sultanas ..lost to mughals etc..

same way the treatment for the workers of tajmahal...

and comedy ..rani padmisni ...don't think any historical evidence to it ...But it is "sati" is possible after loosing a war...to avoid captured by the enemy.
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 12:26 pm:       


Mamamiya786:

there wouldn't have any more work like that.




Emmunnayi aa tarvatha... peddaga kattinavi

Filigree workers , marble painers unnaru Ante...
 

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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2017 - 06:40 am:       


Ideal_brain:

ove is farther from truth and also the brutality of shahjahan to cut the fingers of all the people who worked to construct it.




This is all bull shit .. there is no proof for it ..in history.
people build taj mahal are part of so many structures in india ... if he had done that ,,,there wouldn't have any more work like that..

Still agra ..the descendants of those workers still living on that craft...
Sensation(About Bala):He can win in atleast half of the segments in Rayalaseema. Emi matladutunnavo neeku telusa. He can contest any where in coastal and rayalaseema districts. I personally feel he should contest from Srikakulam dt.

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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 09:13 pm:       


Ideal_brain:

also the brutality of shahjahan to cut the fingers of all the people who worked to construct it.




andulo kooda vadi wife meeda love kanpadutondi janalki...he wanted to make sure Taj stays unique and top..
 

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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 07:14 pm:       


Chanakya:




Yes, there is a massive structure with playing place , on top of it Taj was built directly, but not from scratch, as OSI sollu on building Taj from scratch as some of the building material was 300 years back at basement
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 12:29 pm:       

I have not visited Tajmahal and would not event want to visit it not because it is built by a mughal or a muslim ruler but the whole concept of tajmahal representing a monument of love is farther from truth and also the brutality of shahjahan to cut the fingers of all the people who worked to construct it.
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:20 am:       


Masularex:




Mari confirm cheskokundane social pusthakaallo publish cheyinchinda indian govt ide kadu even nehru currency notes ni tea kosam kaalachadani goppaga project chestharu adedoo ghana karyam chesinattu
kaalam kalisiraakapothe rajakumarulud kooda vanavasaaniki veltharu kaalam kalisosthe pichodu kooda maha kavi kaalidaasu avthaadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 09:33 am:       


Subbarao:

Naaku maathram oka doubt chinnapati nundi love unna chota himsa undadu nijamga shajahan sincere lover aithe taj mahal kattinolla chethulu narakadu


similar claims are made for many famous buildings. architect kallu peekesaaru workers chetul narikesaaru ilanti myths folklore legends worldwide unnai... koncham burronnodiki ardam avuddi avanni rumours myth ani... neeku chinnapati nundi yee doubt undante nuvvu keka maree...
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 08:57 am:       


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Yuddham veru himsa veru vyaamoham lo nunde alaanti aalochanalu vasthaai
kaalam kalisiraakapothe rajakumarulud kooda vanavasaaniki veltharu kaalam kalisosthe pichodu kooda maha kavi kaalidaasu avthaadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 06:14 am:       


Subbarao:

Naaku maathram oka doubt chinnapati nundi love unna chota himsa undadu nijamga shajahan sincere lover aithe taj mahal kattinolla chethulu narakadu




ee story ki authenticity undo ledo telvadu kaani.. mostly top most architect evarunnaro vadu bali ayyuntad.. annesi yudhalu sesinollaki ilanti silipi chestalu picha lite anukonta..
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 03:22 am:       


Rajusk:

ayanaki unnade 8 children kada rao garu..8th vaadu Aurangazeb kada





ledu vuncle..first wife ki 1 kid, mumtaz ki 7 kids..(13 kids pudithe ,6 mandi poyaaru), taruvatha inka pellilu(raja should not be a widow ane concept islam lo kudaa vundi anukunta) chesukunnadu but no kids..
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 02:27 am:       

Naaku maathram oka doubt chinnapati nundi love unna chota himsa undadu nijamga shajahan sincere lover aithe taj mahal kattinolla chethulu narakadu
kaalam kalisiraakapothe rajakumarulud kooda vanavasaaniki veltharu kaalam kalisosthe pichodu kooda maha kavi kaalidaasu avthaadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 01:15 am:       


Rajusk:

ayanaki unnade 8 children kada rao garu..8th vaadu Aurangazeb kada




Simple biology sir
Shah Jahan ki 8 children
Mumtaz ki 14 perfectly possible
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 01:01 am:       

edo okati temple/palace ..em chesthaam..
prathi islam ghori venaka oka hindu mandiram vundochu.. alaane hindu kattadam venaka jain mandiramoo buddha aaramamo vuntadi..( aa anavaallu kanchi, amaravathi,tirupati lo vunnai antaaru)

gatha charithra ni travvi prayojanam ledu.. vunnavaatini prarakshinchukuntu ..krothavi kadadaam..
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 12:56 am:       


Vjawarrior:

tejomahaalaya idi....smasaanam katti paaradobbaru...


Yest it is Sivudi gudi, Nenu Siva ratri ki ellanu, baga celebrate chesaru
 

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Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 12:35 am:       

Raj Singh was given lands or other properties in exchange for the place, I think some structure was there which was demolished and taj Mahal was built, it wasn't temple though.... Same was told by bjp recently in Court
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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 10:32 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:

Ntvodu 11



total..12

first son chanipoyadu.. 7 sons and 4 daughters
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 10:17 pm:       


Rajusk:

.she died when she was pregnant with their 9th child or something..




lekkallo baga poor annay.. 9th child kaadu..14th child..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 10:10 pm:       


Last_avataar:

Shah Jahan seemed to bought a place with some good foundation




 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 09:26 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:




Antha ledu Bro. The base is already visible glaringly
No one wants to dig even an inch under TajMahal to prove this
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 05:16 pm:       

If we dig deep enough at any significant place in the world, we may find a grave or worship place of some civilization, possibly more than one.

Hindu ancestors lost wars - lost palaces and temples. not sure if three is good gain - by retaining lost places, while there are places that are existing and rotting today.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 05:08 pm:       


Vjawarrior:



Vaalla chrvullo joreegavai...ilaage vaallaki kandireega kaatlu veyyalaani.
Blessings...
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 05:07 pm:       


Ferrari:

nuvvu lungi ippi nikkar esukotaniki taj mahal koola gotti tejo mahal kattala..just babri ke veyla talakayalu lesinayi..ippudu idhi inkota..edho janala hadavidi tappithe akkada jarigedhi eam undadhu..


nuvvu nee kcr noti doola kosam , crores of people ni anyaayam gaa split jesinappudu ee buddhi ekkadiki poyindi.....legessssssss
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 04:54 pm:       


Rajusk:




Raju Garu, 14 children from Mumtaz
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 04:20 pm:       


Ferrari:



Maadi maaggaavali anthe...
Manadi kooda manadi chesukolekapodam edayithe undo....chee naayaldi...siggeyyatla..???
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 04:16 pm:       


Speaker:

Urey BJP naayals..meekemanna dammunte...Tejo Mahal ga cheyandra naayaldi...jeevitaantham rss nikkar esukuni tirugutaa...


nuvvu lungi ippi nikkar esukotaniki taj mahal koola gotti tejo mahal kattala..just babri ke veyla talakayalu lesinayi..ippudu idhi inkota..edho janala hadavidi tappithe akkada jarigedhi eam undadhu..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 04:04 pm:       


Last_avataar:

14th Child. poor lady in 32 years died due to this continuous deliveries.




ayanaki unnade 8 children kada rao garu..8th vaadu Aurangazeb kada

nen history lo weak emo ani..Wiki kooda check chesa
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 04:02 pm:       


Last_avataar:



Aa shah jahan gaadu Sivuni vigrahaalu avanni teesesi...tulakolla style naalugu stambaalu...tomb kattesthe aalladayipodda???

Urey BJP naayals..meekemanna dammunte...Tejo Mahal ga cheyandra naayaldi...jeevitaantham rss nikkar esukuni tirugutaa...
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:58 pm:       


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Tejo Mahal...built by Raj Singh...




I am not too convinced that entire structure was built by Raj Singh

Minaret, main building major uplift, dome could have been by Shah Jahan . Also white marbling
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:56 pm:       


Aggipidugu116:




ya very common to have that may kids in olden times. but she lived for 31 years only.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:55 pm:       

Tejo Mahal...built by Raj Singh...
Om NamaSSivaaya....
Maadi Maaggaavaale...
Oka aalochana medilindi..aa aalochane nannu ennukundi..kaabatte ee post padindi.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:55 pm:       


Ringo_rangaswamy:

Why the UP govt not opening the lower sections of Taj Mahal to public!!




Not sure it is not UP govt decision. Indian central govt is always like that. keeping religions aside, Every Indian citizen has a right to know the true history. revenue potundano, tellal threat vallo truth bayataki ravatam ledu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:52 pm:       

I think Mughals did not build any structure from ground zero
All are on constructed top of existing pre built structures

Even Agrah Fort is not constructed by them

Delphi kutub meenar Taggara Pillars anni Inverted pillers of some Hindu temple

But should appreciate the taste of Shah Jahan, as he did not destroy the good pieces of earlier structure and added his vision.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:42 pm:       


Ferrari:

14 kids endhi assalu..fax machine kuda antha consistency maintain cheyadhu anukunta




Maa muttata 10.. Ntvodu 11.. mari 500 years byack.. ok anukunta..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:39 pm:       


Last_avataar:

14th Child


ee shah jahan gadu danda yatra motham mumtaj mahal meedhe chesinattu unnadu kadha..14 kids endhi assalu..fax machine kuda antha consistency maintain cheyadhu anukunta..:D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:34 pm:       


Last_avataar:

Shah Jahan seemed to bought a place with some good foundation structure with gardens which was used by some rajas , could be a place for them to worship, stay enjoy purpose.




Most of the forts kooda anthe gaa....Golkonda, Dowlathabad etc...Dowlathabad lo lower sections anni Hindu style pina domes...
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:22 pm:       


Last_avataar:






I went there 30+ years ago. That time they were allowing visitors to basement where the temple is. I went inside.

Why the UP govt not opening the lower sections of Taj Mahal to public!!
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:10 pm:       


Vjawarrior:


,

look at the link given that clearly shows a rajput style basement
with opening to underground on the yamuna facing back side, everything was closed

Also a wooden door which was 300 years back to Shah Jahan era (confirmed by an American using carbon dating) was removed over night and sealed with brick wall
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:05 pm:       

tejomahaalaya idi....smasaanam katti paaradobbaru...
modi /bjp should solve this one too..
subbu swamy only can save us
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:04 pm:       

Basement Pictures of Taj , taken by British Vincent Smith in 1911


http://secretsbehindhistory.blogspot.com/2012/06/basements.h tml
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:46 pm:       

Single esinollu, okka saraina Velli Taj Mahal chusi appudu veyyadi
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:45 pm:       

14th Child. poor lady in 32 years died due to this continuous deliveries.

Another point
- Taj has 7 floor basement
- apartments to reside
- 500 rooms
- interior water tunnel to supply water for all floors
- guest rooms
- large spacious open areas
- music house, cattle area

Agara Name has come from Agreswar (Shiva) temple

All the above areas are closed or buried either at the time of construction
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:38 pm:       


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Ledu BOSS I have seen Taj 2 times , based on my personal experience I am writing this




aa plaque meeda raasi untundi emo kada..she died when she was pregnant with their 9th child or something..

adokkate naaku baaga gurthu undi :D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:36 pm:       


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Ledu BOSS I have seen Taj 2 times , based on my personal experience I am writing this. I am not saying it is a TejoMahalay something...

but if you look at the structure and surroundings, it is built on top of some Rajput style architecture
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:33 pm:       

Sankstrit//
Amma Hindu ye ... amamma hindu ye... andukane aah matram daya talachi undochu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:28 pm:       

Looking at the Taj Mahal area used for constructions and Base couple of floors of Taj Mahal , periphery building architecture

Shah Jahan seemed to bought a place with some good foundation structure with gardens which was used by some rajas , could be a place for them to worship, stay enjoy purpose.

After that he used his architects to build a Persian style massive Mausoleum on top of the existing structure , burying some floors, closing some of them

otherwise it is impossible to build the structure in 12 years from scratch on an empty land near by Yamuna.

It is interesting to see Taj is not unique but combination of his earlier member mausoleums best features , uniqueness is only while Marble.

He must be appreciate for retaining the good symbols, features , artistic styles of existing structure , also new European art

Salute to those workers and artists, architects for such a greatest work
Not to forget the Grand vision of Shah Jahan.

He retained many Vedic/Hindu Symbols all over

For sure he replaced the deities of worship with his wife and his tombs

Taj is a Grand and Heavy uplift on top of existing structure , for sure

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