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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 07:20 pm:       


Rocketk2:

. He wants to repeal obamacare more than anything.. nothing else will satify him..it is not about fixing the problem. sometimes what's visible is the fact!!



Narcissist ye. No doubt. But final outcome ni munde discount cheyyadam enduku? Repeal or not. Better outcome vaste all the drama will be forgotten.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 07:07 pm:       


Sarpanch:

No wonder you are a Dump supporter and ycp fan.


alright last warning. Any more personals from u will get a ban
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 05:40 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

govt responsibiltiies emito telusko. ne chevilo gubulu teeyatamu or mudi meedha saggadu teeyatamu kadhu. govt works for "public" not as an individual. so security, law and order, public infrastructure and public health.




No wonder you are a Dump supporter and ycp fan.


#MadiMaggavale.... #MeediKoodaMaggavale......
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:59 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

then not an issue. ilanti agreement edho doctors, labs, medical centers chesukunte best emo insurance company ni side chesi. anavasarapu over head :-).


ippudu india lo jarugthundhi adhe.. but them alanti deals oka 100 kalisthe.. it will turn into an insurance company.

Tele medicine is evolving in this direction.Subscriotion based discounts offer chesthunnaru..the visits are priced nominal..almost half of hospital price
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:49 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

i was surprised to airline fares being different to travel from A to B, and then from B t A, and then the pricing was different in the morning and evening.


Yeah, airline pricing have most complex algorithms. so many factors baked in like seasonality, local events, 14 day advance( price break for early guarantee) etc. Budget carriers like Southwest , airtran(before merger) tried to break the mold by pricing seats. I think southwest still does but has 4 or 5 price variants.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:46 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Definite ga. if you get him your neighbours, 10$ ke istadu. if you can get him you entire street may be 5$ ke istademo. That is how it works. You fill his pipeline and remove variability, he will give price break.



then not an issue. ilanti agreement edho doctors, labs, medical centers chesukunte best emo insurance company ni side chesi. anavasarapu over head :-).
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:41 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

volume agreement ki takkuva istunnadu anedhi me own interpretation lekha genuine?


Volume is one of the criteria. Ilantivi ink chala vuntayi.

Jai_ycp:

so you are saying if i go to lab corp and say, boss i will come to your lab only ante next time nunchi naaku 15$ ke blood test chesthada?


Definite ga. if you get him your neighbours, 10$ ke istadu. if you can get him you entire street may be 5$ ke istademo. That is how it works. You fill his pipeline and remove variability, he will give price break.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:35 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Super. Adigina question within the scenario vadilesi argument bhale pivot chesaru. Super ante.


I actually gave the answer... Provider will determine the price and discounts / breaks he is willing to give. it is his discretion how much margin he is willing to forgo. he may be cut his profits and charge at cost.. but that is strictly his discretion. There is no hard and fast rule.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:30 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:



Rocketk2:




volume agreement ki takkuva istunnadu anedhi me own interpretation lekha genuine? travel agent example ee teesuko. travel agent ki iche allowance ippudu online book chesinodiki istunnadu discount or for a club member. . so you are saying if i go to lab corp and say, boss i will come to your lab only ante next time nunchi naaku 15$ ke blood test chesthada?

dhanikanna labcorp gadiko plan vunte dhanilo join avvochu kadha chakkaga takkuvaki if not for 15 30, 40 ku chesthado. bill 400 veyyakunda.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:21 pm:       


Rocketk2:

what is appropriate?? who decides price..ee debate chinnadhi kadhu.. ethical pricing is an interesting topic but not bound legally. Should a service be priced based on its value or need of the customer ?

when we start talking appropriateness, the whole republican argument against Ocare will fall flat.

General ga hospitals will make deal with the individuals without insurance. This is very normal procedure.

Pricing based on volume discounts, usage tiers.. just health care lo start avvaldhu.. this is how world runs. If you bring appropriateness argument.. please extend it and automatically you will join the team that is supporting the fixing of Obamacare



Super. Adigina question within the scenario vadilesi argument bhale pivot chesaru. Super ante.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:20 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Idhi kuda free market yey.
there is no fraud here. accidentally, you are arguing against yourself




this reminded me of my surprise- coming from a socialist country where most of my travels were public transportation, i was surprised to airline fares being different to travel from A to B, and then from B t A, and then the pricing was different in the morning and evening.

i distinctly remmember thinking - "A ki B entha dhooramo", "B ki A antha dhooram" is such a flawed statement.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:13 pm:       


Giant:

Thread starter kante pedda traitor evadu untadu lol


 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:12 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

ame product or service okadiki 100 jnkokaduki 10 ki ammatamu tappu.


why is a flight ticket cheaper when purchased thru agent compared to calling airline and buying ticket? Those are called pricing agreements. Based on the volume provided by the insurance company, a price is negotiated. Idhi kuda free market yey.
there is no fraud here. accidentally, you are arguing against yourself
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:11 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Same product or service okadiki 100 jnkokaduki 10 ki ammatamu tappu.




so are you saying every passenger on a flight pays the same? Even with in the same flight passengers pay different prices, and how does sale days work?

the same item gets priced differently for various reasons, the reason Insurance providers pay less is that they believe it will drive more patients to the hospital. its as fraud as any commodity pricing in capitalism.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:09 pm:       


Giant:

Thread starter kante pedda traitor evadu untadu lol


mccain fan va endhi? vadini tidithe neeku kaindhi emiti?
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 03:02 pm:       


Cocanada:




Evaru young vallani vere group lo vellamanaledhu. Stay in ACA if you think it is good. Compulsory vundali ani rule teeseyandi anedhi requirement.

Rocketk2:



Idemi argument. Free market allows organizations/providers decide thier product or services cost. No questions on it. Same product or service okadiki 100 jnkokaduki 10 ki ammatamu tappu. Dheniki mana premium pakkintodu kattali ane dhaniki link emiti



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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:56 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Okadu insurance lekunda velte MSRP kattalsinde na? Is that appropriate?


what is appropriate?? who decides price..ee debate chinnadhi kadhu.. ethical pricing is an interesting topic but not bound legally. Should a service be priced based on its value or need of the customer ?

when we start talking appropriateness, the whole republican argument against Ocare will fall flat.

General ga hospitals will make deal with the individuals without insurance. This is very normal procedure.

Pricing based on volume discounts, usage tiers.. just health care lo start avvaldhu.. this is how world runs. If you bring appropriateness argument.. please extend it and automatically you will join the team that is supporting the fixing of Obamacare
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:46 pm:       

Thread starter kante pedda traitor evadu untadu lol
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:44 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Worst case scenario Obamacare 100% repeal ayyi back to pre Obamacare days.


Please check my post on pre Obamacare days
http://www.chalanachithram.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=1 15&post=6461411#POST6461411

Moviebuff001:

Disadvantage: Chalamandi (Mostly poor) coverage kolpotaru. Medicaid has to work at that point.


Medicaid cant be stretched. its not only the poor that loses coverage , its the most needed also that will lose the coverage.

Moviebuff001:

Best case scenario: Senate will workout a compromise and provide better plan.


To satisfy the whims of a narcissist ?? He rejected a bipartisan deal to fix this without damaging people
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/13/trump-opposes-bipar tisan-obamacare-rescue-plan-243752

. He wants to repeal obamacare more than anything.. nothing else will satify him..it is not about fixing the problem. sometimes what's visible is the fact!!
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:41 pm:       

Mee bondha

Young healthy individuals pay cheste ne we can have proper healthcare. Vaallanoka group veellani oka group lo este musalaallu andaru debbaki hari antaaru
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:38 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Second dhi concept of MSRP and MSA discounts. THe service has a price but the insurance companies negotiates an agreement which can be transaction based , service level based or service quality based. Under these pricing agreements, there will be differnce betweem invoiced amount and settled amount. this is not unique to insurance industry



Okadu insurance lekunda velte MSRP kattalsinde na? Is that appropriate?
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:37 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Worst case scenario Obamacare 100% repeal ayyi back to pre Obamacare days.
Disadvantage: Chalamandi (Mostly poor) coverage kolpotaru. Medicaid has to work at that point.
Best case scenario: Senate will workout a compromise and provide better plan.



yup. actual obama care complete roll out lo 2 sections ki effect.

ACA rakamundu kooda BPL kindha vunna vallaki medicaid vundhi. ACA increased the number of people that can claim Medicaid. so ee borderline people ACA rakamundu insurance vundha ledha anedhi debatabale. not all states increased it.

kontha mandhi sick people ki earlier premiums are either high or denied coverage.

ee rendu groups lo oka 3-4 million americans vunatru emo anthe.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:23 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

regulation ani kadhu. manaki bill 500 ichi insurance company vadu 100 dollars kadithe chalu antunnadu. if actual provider is content with 100 dollars, why is he making a bill of 500 dollars for the same service. idhi fraud kadha? dhani regulate chesthe tappu emiti?


First of all 500 and 100 gali lekkalu.. andhuke clarity adiganu..
let me explain how it works. Doctor is going to bill based on his quotes and conditions. insurance is going to validate the treatment claims and offer its payments. ikkaga content question ledhu.. When it comes to health, there is no rate card. System work avvadaniki they mutually agree on a billing process. Ippudu ee system chala standardize ayyipoyidhi.. Both parties are using a common code like ICD10. the only difference is in the clerical errors..

Second dhi concept of MSRP and MSA discounts. THe service has a price but the insurance companies negotiates an agreement which can be transaction based , service level based or service quality based. Under these pricing agreements, there will be differnce betweem invoiced amount and settled amount. this is not unique to insurance industry

I can understand your enthusiasm but your information is not correct. Insurance industry lo problems vetini ivala trump chesina pani address cheyyataledhu.. These are not acts of man in a good state of mind
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:23 pm:       

Worst case scenario Obamacare 100% repeal ayyi back to pre Obamacare days.
Disadvantage: Chalamandi (Mostly poor) coverage kolpotaru. Medicaid has to work at that point.
Best case scenario: Senate will workout a compromise and provide better plan.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:15 pm:       


Rocketk2:

and there goes US credibilty!! a deal that hindered nuclear progress of iran , a deal that iran is compliant wiht.. a deal that his own cabinet is saying to be working.

why? because obama signed it ??



obama did cross his authority, ignored senate vote and made the deal. All republican senators opposed the deal. they did not have enough votes to stop filibuster but majority of them. that is 58 votes.

trump campaigned that he will undo the deal. so anybody who voted him knows this will be done. It is a lesson for future presidents to not make treaties with other countries without senate approval.

Rocketk2:

obama care ki subsidies cut chesthe avi pothayi annnatu matladathunnaru..kani..



no body said that. He is undoing bad things obama did. now he offered dems and reps to come with a fix.

Rocketk2:

It is Trumpcare from today(more like Trumpdontcare ) he owns it!!



still ACA. what he did is provide additional options. congress never apportioned funds for these subsidies.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 02:05 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

one more campaign promise fulfilled


and there goes US credibilty!! a deal that hindered nuclear progress of iran , a deal that iran is compliant wiht.. a deal that his own cabinet is saying to be working.

why? because obama signed it ??

ee thread lo health industry lo vunna mistakes anni list chesi...obama care ki subsidies cut chesthe avi pothayi annnatu matladathunnaru..kani.. he is going there without backup plan.. it is very dangerous what he is doing. cover chesukodaniki billions karchu pettali.. he is going to screw up massively..

just obama ni delegitimize chesthe chalu anukune vallaki tappa evariki idhi manchi ga anipinchadu..

Generally, I would say let him dig his grave but here he is digging others grave.. andhuke antaru votes have consequences ani!!
It is Trumpcare from today(more like Trumpdontcare ) he owns it!!
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 01:21 pm:       

one more campaign promise fulfilled

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/politics/iran-deal-decertify/i ndex.html
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:24 pm:       

teenmar.

this is for you from WIKI.

Not all medical conditions qualify for uncompensated mandated services imposed by EMTALA, which is contrary to the misperception that many individuals assume that if they are ill, they will be treated, regardless of their ability to pay.

The sole purpose for the EMTALA mandated MSE is to require Emergency Departments to make a determination whether an emergency medical condition does or does not exist, using their normal assessment and diagnostic protocols. Since the MSE is a mandated EMTALA service, health insurers are required to cover benefits for their subscribers. They are also required to cover EMTALA mandated services necessary to stabilize individuals determined to have an EMC.

EMTALA intentionally omitted any requirement for hospitals to provide uncompensated stabilizing treatment for individuals with medical conditions determined not to be an EMC. Therefore, such individuals are not eligible for further uncompensated examination and treatment beyond the MSE.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:18 pm:       

Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA).

This law ensures that anyone who comes to an emergency department, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, must receive a medical screening exam and be stabilized
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:15 pm:       


Teenmaar:

Mari adi nee knowledge. Go with a Tumor
In Breast, they will tie you up to bed and operate you.. go with a bullet wound and they will not send you home until the bullet is out, unless it�s in some weird place . Drug addicts go with over dose and stay months in bed , accidents , ulcers , adhd , ocd .. they all need long term attention and they are getting it as we speak .. thats why states are going crazy trying to handle those expenses.. Anyway you have absolute no reasonable knowledge on how hospitals work here. Stop reading beerbat site




mana dream land lona? urgent care lo emi chestaro kooda teliyadhu. kikiki. mari anni solve avvutunte inka ACA vachi chesindhi emundhi. nuvvu annattu just go to hospital and get cured. dont need to pay money too.

i think trump is aiming for it.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:11 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

are not going to do procedures for you.




Mari adi nee knowledge. Go with a Tumor
In Breast, they will tie you up to bed and operate you.. go with a bullet wound and they will not send you home until the bullet is out, unless it’s in some weird place . Drug addicts go with over dose and stay months in bed , accidents , ulcers , adhd , ocd .. they all need long term attention and they are getting it as we speak .. thats why states are going crazy trying to handle those expenses.. Anyway you have absolute no reasonable knowledge on how hospitals work here. Stop reading beerbat site
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:03 pm:       

Single payer and uniform mandatory health tax is the only way to go.. we pay tax and govt pays insurance companies
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:03 pm:       


Teenmaar:

If I get sick and have no insurance you will end up paying for me anyway, because I will go and get treated and they can not deny treatment .



who told you that . they will do preliminary care only. they are not going to do procedures for you.

Teenmaar:

assumption that everyone at some point need hospital



somebody is taking a risk that he does not need something. let him plot his path. why bother?

basically you are not worried about his hospital expenses but about yours. you want him to bare yours for now. we will see what happens when he needs others
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 12:00 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

you said below that rich should pay for poor




I never said rich should pay, I said that’s the basis of obama care.

Coming to taking risk in business is not same as health care. Health care should operate with a assumption that everyone at some point need hospital . If I get sick and have no insurance you will end up paying for me anyway, because I will go and get treated and they can not deny treatment .

Capital gains and risk is in every job and every business , irrespective of what they do, they all need hospitals.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:53 am:       


Moviebuff001:

Anni hospitals oppukovu. Methodist ye negotiation ledu bongu ledu ellehe andi ... Kavalante installment option ista annadu.




ofcourse it depends on a case by case basis. this should happen when the service starts, its a pretty bad situation to be in.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:45 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

hospitals typically negotiate with the payer. the onus is on you to carry on the negotiation, the total amounts an possibly installments.



Anni hospitals oppukovu. Methodist ye negotiation ledu bongu ledu ellehe andi ... Kavalante installment option ista annadu.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:43 am:       


Teenmaar:




forget what trump or politician does. you should have a morale conscience right. you said below that rich should pay for poor.

lets take DB example. while me and you are chatting good for nothing political posts, KM risked money, put on HMNY stock and made money. as per you, just because he made money, he should pay additional tax. is that fair?
will we pay him if he fails. No. his risks are his gains. if he wants to help other, its fine. but why should government mandate him or force to help others is a fundamental question.
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Jai_ycp:

will it be the same cost for self-pay is my question. I never paid for health costs in full by myself. but for dental procedure, one time there was transition between companies and somehow i had to pay. they charged me 400+ where as later with the same provider and same service, insurance paid 165$ only. why the difference? thats should be stopped.




vunkl, if you are genuinely self pay, hospitals typically negotiate with the payer. the onus is on you to carry on the negotiation, the total amounts an possibly installments.
 

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Mental_sachinodu:

Insurance providers and hospitals have a contract on how much each type of service that Insurance provider will pay



will it be the same cost for self-pay is my question. I never paid for health costs in full by myself. but for dental procedure, one time there was transition between companies and somehow i had to pay. they charged me 400+ where as later with the same provider and same service, insurance paid 165$ only. why the difference? thats should be stopped.
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but oke product/service ki oka customer ki 500 maro customer ki 100 adagatamu is fraud.




again Hospital is not asking the price - its merely telling what services were provided, the insurance company is the one paying what it agreed to pay. doesnt matter how much the hospital puts on the bill. Insurance company will simply take the hospital out of network, if the hospital does not like it.
 

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regulation ani kadhu. manaki bill 500 ichi insurance company vadu 100 dollars kadithe chalu antunnadu. if actual provider is content with 100 dollars, why is he making a bill of 500 dollars for the same service. idhi fraud kadha? dhani regulate chesthe tappu emiti?



Inta valid arguement ki single enduku vesaro cheppandi babulu.
Prati visit ki doctor 200 bill vestadu Insurance 100 antadu. Surgery ki similar. 10000 bill ki 3000 chaalu antadu.
Ee scan ni control cheste manake manchidi kada...
Insurance lekunda velte vere treatment.
 

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regulation ani kadhu. manaki bill 500 ichi insurance company vadu 100 dollars kadithe chalu antunnadu. if actual provider is content with 100 dollars, why is he making a bill of 500 dollars for the same service. idhi fraud kadha? dhani regulate chesthe tappu emiti?




that is regulating insurance companies, not hospitals, and again good luck with regulating any private entity.


Insurance providers and hospitals have a contract on how much each type of service that Insurance provider will pay. The hospital does not maintain these costs in their system, the hospitals generate the bills mostly based on their highest cost across payers and service linces. The insurance company simply ignores those bills, but only pays what they had a deal with the hospital for. if the hospital sends a bill less than the amount he provider, the provider will still pay what agreed upon.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:22 am:       


Ideal_brain:

Fistly it makes him feel important



. DB lo discussions importance kosamu chestara? tokkalo political discussions valla mana chetulu noppi eti vundadhu. adoka doola anthe.

Ideal_brain:

and will further his silly arguments..



pakkonodu dabbu free ga dobbadhu ante silly arguments ee.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:20 am:       

oka provider entah charge cheyyalo cheppatamu wrong as per free market. but oke product/service ki oka customer ki 500 maro customer ki 100 adagatamu is fraud. dhani apali.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:20 am:       

My humble request to everyone trying to convince jai_ycp is it is waste of time to respond to him in many ways.. Fistly it makes him feel important and secondly he has fixated opinions and is always to the right of Steve bannon and will further his silly arguments..
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:18 am:       


Rocketk2:

Manaki kavalsina vaatilo regulation ok



Mental_sachinodu:



regulation ani kadhu. manaki bill 500 ichi insurance company vadu 100 dollars kadithe chalu antunnadu. if actual provider is content with 100 dollars, why is he making a bill of 500 dollars for the same service. idhi fraud kadha? dhani regulate chesthe tappu emiti?
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Rocketk2:

idhi koncham clarity ivvandi. There will always be difference between billed and paid amount. But ee level difference ki very specific reasons vuntayyi.!!



Nenu na EOB padi sarlu chusa. I am surprised why and how BCBS is paying such low cost to lab corp.ninna na last 2 years summary petta. darunamu. all insurance paid is 2-2.5K. providers charge is around 5-6K. I paid 7.5 K in pre tax, company paid 7.5 plus 300 co-pays.

last 3 years, if there is no insurance and company paid me the money it was paying to insurance company, i would have made 12K each year. so total 36K gone to insurance companies.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:14 am:       


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bankrupt




Then why is he not against it ? Show me one tweet that says he will abolish ssn tax, Because it is very popular and he might actually lose vote bank

We have seen vote bank politics since childhood in India srilanka Bangladesh, what he is doing is exact same thing, may be new to USA not for us.
 

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Jai_ycp:

regulate hospital bills




sorry but couldnt help myself
 

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Jai_ycp:

regulate hospital bills it would be a winner.


holy shit!! Manaki kavalsina vaatilo regulation ok??( I will post utilities regulation trump silently signed to get coal industry going. Ee godavalo.. adhi side ki vellindhi.. probably will come in news shortly)

Jai_ycp:

lab corp blood test ki his charges are 350 dollars. Insurance paid him 13$. why it is so different. idhi solve chesthe 3/4 health care costs taggipothayi


idhi koncham clarity ivvandi. There will always be difference between billed and paid amount. But ee level difference ki very specific reasons vuntayyi.!!
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:12 am:       


Sarpanch:


dude ur going a little overboard with personal attacks. Cut it down
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:11 am:       


Teenmaar:

agree if you stop paying social security,



now post 2035, they are saying that you might not get what was promised. just like healthcare, it was promised as final solution for post retirement. what happened? it was in dire straits. same thing will happen with OCARE or any federal social program. By the time you and me retire, dont keep hope on SS. it could go bankrupt.
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Sarpanch:

Nuvvu ne talaku masina logiclu nu.........
Dabbunna vallu andari alage alochiste nuvvu highway meda drive chestava asalu? The miniscule taxes you pay does not even support a 10 mile highway. There is something called Greater Good. Evadidi vadu kharchupettukunte nuvvu ne intlo nunchi bayataki kooda relevu.



govt responsibiltiies emito telusko. ne chevilo gubulu teeyatamu or mudi meedha saggadu teeyatamu kadhu. govt works for "public" not as an individual. so security, law and order, public infrastructure and public health.

rest anni overarching. imagine a federal. as "Public", you and me own it. which means the transaction related to the land should be decided by people elected by us hopefully to our favor. but you don't own it privately.

thats is the difference between government and private function. if govt cant control your food, sleep, genetics, lifestyle they have no responsibility to pay for your health costs.

why health only? why not tuition, vacation, even wages too. why should you working 78 hours earn 700-800 dollars where as another guy who works gets 120 dollars? should you make earnings public in the sense that every body gets paid the same?
socialism tried these things and was a failure.

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federal




I agree if you stop paying social security, I have my own 401 k I do not want retirement from government , trump should fight that.. of wait it is not called Obama care and have no one to blame for votes
 

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Teenmaar:




federal govt mandate cheyyatamu tappu. only rich okkate kadhu kattedhi. cha;a mandhi middle class ki vachi podhi. is there any statistics that prove that people health increased rapidly from 2012-2016?

for people who believe that health care is a social responsibility, do it privately like medishare does. or association plan also works better.

let people make their own choice.

Rocketk2:



yaa. me single payer boochi chupinchi 2018, 2020 gattu ekkesthamu. kikiki.
end of the day, there are certain people who cant pay for themselves. they will always look out for handout. it is either through subsidy, CSR payments etc. still as of now majority americans are self respecting who value hardwork. so safe for now. india no putti perigina manaki telusu okasari handout alavatu padda vadu eppatiki dhani nunchi bayatapadadu ani.

rather than solving high healthcare costs, money tax chesi pay chetshe problem solve kadhu. that too for a nation of 230 million.
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school funding chesedi local govt with your property taxes. federal govt kadhu. most of the people will feel relief. pakkintodu dabbu tho mana jabbulu cure chesukundam anukunevadiki loss.

aina if you are concerned, start your own group. all like minded people who dont paying for other health will join. there is something called medishare for christians. ACA allowed them to continue. it is nto typical insurance. here all enrollees will share their medical bills. fair enough. alage meeku holluwood, silicon valley, medi anadari anda vundhi. join aipondhi.




Nuvvu ne talaku masina logiclu nu.........
Dabbunna vallu andari alage alochiste nuvvu highway meda drive chestava asalu? The miniscule taxes you pay does not even support a 10 mile highway. There is something called Greater Good. Evadidi vadu kharchupettukunte nuvvu ne intlo nunchi bayataki kooda relevu.

#MadiMaggavale.... #MeediKoodaMaggavale......
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 11:00 am:       

Next year ee time ki post cheyandi premiums entha taggayo
 

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Instead they wasted time repealing it. Now they have no alternative plan.



Oka 6 months waste ayyayemo. Hopefully it is not too late. Financial burden too much asalu.
 

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Mari 3 times senate lo obamacare repeal ki for ga enduku vote vesaru. obama sign cheyyadu an


evari meedha mee fight.. naku confusing ga vundhi !! They are from your team .. they know they are making a symbolic protest.

Btw, alternative chupinchakunda subsidies teesayatam smart move kadhu.. let's wait and see .. there will be instability and severe pain to people ..

It will be painful short term, but Bernie should love Trump right now. He's doing more to get us to single payer than Obama ever did.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:51 am:       

Obama care - healthy people pay for sick, rich pay for poor. Everyone knows this from day 1. Its more like social security benefits, working population pay for retired.

However , the bill left out lot of loopholes and language for some rules need to be changed. It is 1000 pages enormous overhaul so it is not surprising that they didnt get everything right the first time .. But the House did not act on fixing that, Instead they wasted time repealing it. Now they have no alternative plan.

Only way to do this is to make health mandatory, and introduce single payer
 

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lab corp blood test ki his charges are 350 dollars. Insurance paid him 13$. why it is so different. idhi solve chesthe 3/4 health care costs taggipothayi



Ya. Idi biggest scam.
My company is self insured. So, ma premiums maraka povachu. Because company costs taggi ma costs perigayi.
Okasari raktam ruchi marigindi.
 

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Hopefully, this decision will help push for a mutually agreeable healthcare plan.



I agree. but see your health benefit is tied to other benefits and local conditions. I think it should be transferred to state level. My company does not provide full coverage for family only pays for 50% but i have other benefits. some company in CA might pay full but cost of living could be high.

if they combine taxes with health care and benefits, regulate hospital bills it would be a winner.

lab corp blood test ki his charges are 350 dollars. Insurance paid him 13$. why it is so different. idhi solve chesthe 3/4 health care costs taggipothayi
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The Affordable Care Act requires everyone to buy the one-size-fits-all package. You have to pay for maternity care, even if you�re too old to give birth. You�re also on the hook for pediatric dental care, even if you�re childless. It�s like passing a law that the only car you can buy is a fully loaded, four-door sedan. No more hatchbacks or two-seaters



Perfect. Additional financial burden ni ela address chestado anukunna when he said "your premiums will not increase".
But ACA valla help aina valla ki solution kooda ivvali. It can't be left alone.
Hopefully, this decision will help push for a mutually agreeable healthcare plan.
 

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Sachin:

rich ki tax cuts..



final draft rakundane. manamki tax cuts ichada ledha chusukovali kaani pakkoni plate lo manchi leg piece padindhi ani edisthe ela

Sachin:

poor ki no subsidies



ishi subsidy ke malla subsidy. already medicaid 138% pencaharu. helath care costs ki tax credits istunnaru. ippudu chesindhi emiti
penchina Medicaid funding, ichina tax credits kakaunda insurance companies ki year ki 6-& billion dollars loss vasthundhi. aa loss cover cheyyataniki malla govt free dabbulu istunnayi.

so Ocare is not sustainable with increased medicaid funding, premium increases, tax credits. inka insurance comapnies ki payments cheyyali anta. asalu budget lo allocate kooda cheyyaledhu. obama has now power to promise payment to insurance companies without congress approval.

aina chesesadu. house went to court and judge ruled in its favor. kaani still continue chetsunnaru. trump gadu apesadu anthe. let congress appropriate funds.
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Manthri:

They are asking for right alternative to repeal Obama care then they will vote.



Mari 3 times senate lo obamacare repeal ki for ga enduku vote vesaru. obama sign cheyyadu ana

Xxx:

will hurt every one except rich , kaani we don't care ..

Most of the taxes we pay , where are they ending ? Schools ki no funding, health care ki no funding , if you are not rich , you have no right to get medical care ,

Manki kooda baagana diguthundi , for those who have kids or health issues, you will end up spending on tutions , sat coaching , sports etc etc
More charter schools , lines to drop kids , pick kids , colleges lo no scholarships etc etc
Also ,If he targets H1b inkaa baaga diguthundi



school funding chesedi local govt with your property taxes. federal govt kadhu. most of the people will feel relief. pakkintodu dabbu tho mana jabbulu cure chesukundam anukunevadiki loss.

aina if you are concerned, start your own group. all like minded people who dont paying for other health will join. there is something called medishare for christians. ACA allowed them to continue. it is nto typical insurance. here all enrollees will share their medical bills. fair enough. alage meeku holluwood, silicon valley, medi anadari anda vundhi. join aipondhi.

enduku makodhu raa morro anevallani chal kattu antamu. this guy put it nicely

The Affordable Care Act requires everyone to buy the one-size-fits-all package. You have to pay for maternity care, even if you’re too old to give birth. You’re also on the hook for pediatric dental care, even if you’re childless. It’s like passing a law that the only car you can buy is a fully loaded, four-door sedan. No more hatchbacks or two-seaters


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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:19 am:       

ee vadiki pagilindi vediki pagilindi ani fanslagaa cheppukotaniki bagane untadi....end of the term M kudisipoyedi country ne....
rich ki tax cuts...poor ki no subsidies.....world antha clean energy side pothante eedu votes kosam daniki against....
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:17 am:       


Manthri:

They are asking for right alternative to repeal Obama care then they will vote


or, chetagani tanam?

When they voted 60+ times to repeal Obama care, were they not looking for the right alternative in those cases then?
 

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obamacare repeal and replace ani 2010 nunchi republicans chebutune vunnaru. trump ki vote vesina prathi okkadiki telusu gelisthe lepesthadu ani. so trump base is ok. ika dems. if they want to serve thier base, they should come for compromise.




repeal and replace annaru ani...thala thoka leni bills thesthaaaraaa....7 years vaginollu sarigga bill raskolekapoyaaaraaa....
cheppamu kabatti repeal cheyali ani cheyatamne kaaani...
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:16 am:       


Sarpanch:

As usual malli court lo kukka dobblu tintadu........



ippati daka dhenilo tinnadu. travel ban aithe ika SC verdict cheppaledhu. latets judgements anni trump ki anukoolame ichayi though final decision is not done.

Sarpanch:

McCain is a war hero. Ne lanti landasoru batch ki mccain ni ane antha scene ledu le......



vadu war lo emi chesado telusa?. vadini traitor anedhi repub senator actions ki. ippudu ninnu tittala?

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take care of sarpanch.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:15 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Opposition lo vundaga obamacare repeal ki vote vesi, power lokochaka vennu chupinchina traitor gang (MCcain, Lisa, Susan)




koncham kuda alochinchavu anukunta.
They are asking for right alternative to repeal Obama care then they will vote.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:14 am:       


Sarpanch:

McCain is a war hero.


 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:13 am:       


Sachin:

i don't give a shit about those people.




will hurt every one except rich , kaani we don't care ..

Most of the taxes we pay , where are they ending ? Schools ki no funding, health care ki no funding , if you are not rich , you have no right to get medical care ,

Manki kooda baagana diguthundi , for those who have kids or health issues, you will end up spending on tutions , sat coaching , sports etc etc
More charter schools , lines to drop kids , pick kids , colleges lo no scholarships etc etc
Also ,If he targets H1b inkaa baaga diguthundi
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:13 am:       


Andhravodu:

Peekaleka poyadu ani kullabodicharu, ippudu anubhavinchandi re rey



cassidy bill edho name sake bill. states ki ekkuva power velledhi. obamacare kanisamu state level lo survive ayyedhi. paiga trumpcare ani peru vachedhi kabatti ika touch cgese vadu kadhu.

dems, kondari traitor batch extra cutting chesaru. dhoola teerio.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:12 am:       


Jai_ycp:




As usual malli court lo kukka dobblu tintadu........
McCain is a war hero. Ne lanti landasoru batch ki mccain ni ane antha scene ledu le......
ne range ki jagabokka jagananna salu.

#MadiMaggavale.... #MeediKoodaMaggavale......
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:11 am:       

trump gadi gilludu matuku arachakamu appa. byt eh way vadi personality gurinchi manchi article padindhi. though i dotn agree all of its content, he came pretty close to analyzing trump.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/13/donald-tru mp-positive-thinking-215704
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:09 am:       


Gandhiguevara:



India lo vundetodivi nekenduku america gola
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:08 am:       


Teenmaar:

Why will Dems call him ??? Who is president



if dems care about it. valla kosame kadha ACA ni replace cheyyodhu law ni amend cheyyodhu ani godava chesindhi

Sachin:

ee orders hurt the lower income people. so he indirectly saying i don't give a shit about those people. they are Dem's responsibility



obamacare repeal and replace ani 2010 nunchi republicans chebutune vunnaru. trump ki vote vesina prathi okkadiki telusu gelisthe lepesthadu ani. so trump base is ok. ika dems. if they want to serve thier base, they should come for compromise.
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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:08 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Dems should call me to fix!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p28XmIJ1AHM#t=16s

ee sound lo seppinatlundi
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:05 am:       


Teenmaar:

Why will Dems call him ??? Who is president




ee orders hurt the lower income people. so he indirectly saying i don't give a shit about those people. they are Dem's responsibility
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:03 am:       

Trump chiraku dobbistadu kaani, appudappudu ilanti mondi pattudala to chesevi ekkutayi. Peekaleka poyadu ani kullabodicharu, ippudu anubhavinchandi re rey
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 10:01 am:       

Why will Dems call him ??? Who is president

Silly thelivithetalu baaga unnayi candidate daggara
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 09:48 am:       

endho nee gola..LOL..
 

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Posted on Friday, October 13, 2017 - 09:41 am:       

magadivi raa bujja.

Opposition lo vundaga obamacare repeal ki vote vesi, power lokochaka vennu chupinchina traitor gang (MCcain, Lisa, Susan) ki chukkalau chupinchavu kadha.

Dems ki vasipoyindhi. Cassidy bill would have continued obamacare at state level. Dems kakurthi padi traitor gang cutting kosamu dhani addukunnaru.

ippudu chachindhi gorre.

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The Democrats ObamaCare is imploding. Massive subsidy payments to their pet insurance companies has stopped. Dems should call me to fix!


innalu trump ni adukunnaru. ippudu edhanna cheyyali ante trump daggarike ravali.

liberal court interfere avvuthayi kaani stroke matuku adirindhi.



ee dem/lib ganga rachakalu apalante ne lanti tikka tingorode kavali. no normal republican president could have done this.

ilanti panulu chesi sau guna maaf chepinchuko
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