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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2017 - 08:21 am:       

pardon my ignorance but ee contraceptive coverage aadollake na leka mogollaki kuda unda
 

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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 04:47 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Somewhat worrisome statement this is. Aa 1 person ibbandi padina parledu migata 99 mamdiki mamchidi kabatti atani meeda ruddali ani meaning vachindi... Or that's how I understood. Did I read it right?


complication emi ledh brother.. my thought process is fairly simple.

If the employer religious belief dont agree he should not practice usage of contraceptive. no issues there.but employees ki pay cheyyanu anatam right kadhu. religous beliefs and insurance coverage are two different issues. we should not mix them up. compartmentalize chesi think cheyyali. this is the same thought process, I bring into immigration and security.

there should be heavy corelation to bundle issues, lekapothe agenda selling avuthundhi..

vaccination, organ transplant, blood transfusion ivanni kuda against religion belief' ye...should we consider 'giving exemptions' on these as well ??? if not, why ????
endhukante.. contraceptives are at the root of moral debate and a key political issue. as simple as that!!

religious beliefs is one bucket. every one should have freedom to practice. and this should not impact other person within his constitutionally provided rights
Healthcare is one bucket. The government should give guidance based on the price , feasibility etc..
ee rendu buckets ni seperate ga deal chesthe clarity vasthundhi..
 

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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2017 - 01:17 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

It has no business telling private companies on what salary to pay and what benefits to provide




Lets scrap the minimum wage laws and all Fair Labor Standards.
Why should religious items be exempted from Tax.

Also why should the government tell private companies to hold up taxes.

1960 mundu varaku ladies ki vote ledu.
lets roll it back
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:39 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Also one person's religious liberty should not "materially' impact other persons life style..akkada problem vasthadi



Somewhat worrisome statement this is. Aa 1 person ibbandi padina parledu migata 99 mamdiki mamchidi kabatti atani meeda ruddali ani meaning vachindi... Or that's how I understood. Did I read it right?
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:35 pm:       


Rocketk2:

dheeni anni arguments ki extend cheyyali ani korukuntunna...



I am guessing that you are referring to travel bans and Daca and illegal immigrants and the like.
Ye country rights aa country citizens ki untayi. Legal ga vaste evaru emi anaru.
Illegal ga vachi we will resist you ante anni madichi pocket lo pettukomani maryada ga cheptaru.
LTTE. Biggest example ee rochu manchidi kadu ani cheppataniki. Ippudu Europe ragulutunna kaashtam with no solution in sight. Mundu jagratha lekapote US kooda armpit licked ye.
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 06:24 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

US lo aa religious liberty ledu antunnara? Mana gullu gopuralu, muslim mosque lu, sikh pagdi, Islamic musugulu...
Plenty tolerance no...


Nenu endhuku antanu.. chala liberty vundhi..I am glad for it.. dheeni anni arguments ki extend cheyyali ani korukuntunna... Also one person's religious liberty should not "materially' impact other persons life style..akkada problem vasthadi

This is just base consolidation.. nothing more.. Obamacare lo parts dismantle chesthunna ani optics provide cheyyadaniki paniki vasthadi.. we can move on.
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 06:04 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Federal reach is making it mandatory. It was not before 2012. I also told that 99% of employers will still provide. It is mainly optics and for base.


I agree. there will be (almost) no material impact. But it opens doors for many more that will not be as simple..

Obama time lone exemption kosam baga try chesaru. This is one clause that took long time before finalization..Already churches has exemption. This is extension to hospital,schools run by churches etc.
For-profit organizations evadu ee clause use chesukodu vunna kuda.this will only be used by people who wants to make a statement
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 06:01 pm:       


Rocketk2:

consistent basis.. not convenience basis



US lo aa religious liberty ledu antunnara? Mana gullu gopuralu, muslim mosque lu, sikh pagdi, Islamic musugulu...
Plenty tolerance no...
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:50 pm:       


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Not enforcing is favoriting somebody? Kikiki.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:49 pm:       


Time_pass:




Transgenders are not allowed in military till 2016. There is a reason for it. Obama let them in and trump rollback it. It is not a new ban.

Time_pass:




VA covers what is not covered by your health plan anukunta. Nation ki army is soul. They are federal govt employees and care is offered to them when they sign up.

Oka federal govt involve avvalsindhi national security, foreign diplomacy, public utilities
And health. Rest all are overreach only.

It has no business telling private companies on what salary to pay and what benefits to provide
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:46 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

It's not that simple. Why should I pay for something that I don't use anedi argument. It should be optional antaru.
I am indifferent to this change.


Its not simple.. that makes it complicated :-)

And also its not about paying. Insurance coverage mandates federal govt. eppatinuncho regulate chesthundi.This is not obama thing. Obama passed ACA. ACA has certain mandates for coverage. Ippudu trump vatilo oka dhaniki exemption icharu. basis for that exemption is 'Religious and moral'.

Ippudu idhey logic vere vattillo continue chesthe..?? after all 'hostility to religious liberty' need to be shunned. I agree and it should be on consistent basis.. not convenience basis

Koncham deep ga chusthe 'minority licking', 'votebank politics' lo kanapade traits ikkada kuda kanapadathayi!!
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:36 pm:       

If you can ban transgender people why not ban napumnsaks
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:34 pm:       


Jai_ycp:




Veterans insurance runs out of our taxes
Why can't the same rules apply.

Adi ishtam lenodu join avvadu
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 05:29 pm:       


Rocketk2:




Federal reach is making it mandatory. It was not before 2012. I also told that 99% of employers will still provide. It is mainly optics and for base.

Masularex:



Google vodu full day care provide chestaru employees ki. Chala companies cheyyavu. That’s a benefit. Ippudu federal VAchi andaru provide cheyyali ante ela vuntundhi. Idhi anthe. Trump
Rolled back federal mandate. If an employer wants to continue, he can. Most will continue as it doesn’t not effect cost wise. Oka 2 or 3% employer can stop it based on thier religious beliefs. Aa employees aa benefit important anukunte inko Chota join avvuthayi.
Dhenilo arrogance emiti ?

Manthri:




Daani uses telusuKAANI why should govt make mandatory for employees cheppu. Lot of employers provide various benefits federal govt mandate for some enduku?


Time_pass:



Vaadi viagra ki nuvvu kattutunnava? Enduku?

Moviebuff001:



Well said. Andaru iche benefits vadu ivvakapothe aa employer ke loss due to attiration. Federal give should not mandate those things. Chic fill A gadu Sunday holiday kabatti andaru holiday ivvali ani feds mandate chesthe etla
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 03:15 pm:       


Masularex:

how about the believers staying in caves and not bothering the real world ? same logic...




Why should I pay for military guys Viagra
Cut my taxes for it ante emi chestaru?
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 12:58 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

It's not that simple.


i am not denying that... "neeku nacchaka pothe inko chota job ethukko" ante arrogance plus show of power...
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 12:42 pm:       


Masularex:

how about the believers staying in caves and not bothering the real world ? same logic...



It's not that simple. Why should I pay for something that I don't use anedi argument. It should be optional antaru.
I am indifferent to this change.
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 12:14 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

if your emoloyer doesn't provide this service, leave job find another one who does. end of the day it is a benefit if you need it.


how about the believers staying in caves and not bothering the real world ? same logic...
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 10:08 am:       

atleast 40-50% usage of contraceptive are used by woman for other issues like hormonal imbalance (irregular periods etc.)

e jai_ycp lantollaki half-knowledge tho yemi chesina federal benefit kosame ani vuguthavuntaru
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 09:52 am:       


Rocketk2:

federal outreach aaa.



Fed should not dictate what states can or cannot do ani meaning anipinchindi naku. Obama made it a requirement and now it is being removed.
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 12:27 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Still employers who want to provide that benefit can do.


want to kadhu.. they have to.. only way to get exception .. naa religious benefits ki against ani certificate techikovala!!

This is more symbolic guys .. pedda material impact vundadhu.. but administration mindset establish chesthundhi.. but why get suprised. Cruz vasthe first day chese vadu

I will chalk this under base solidification for next election. 2018 lo mistakes jaragakudadhu..obama chesina mistakes cheyya kudadhu..I think this move will help Trump!

Repu Inkodu organ transplant ki ma religion oppukodhu ante Emi chestharoo??
 

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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2017 - 12:18 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Good for him as he is identifying federal outreach and rollbacking them.


ilantive koncham funny ga vuntayi ! Spin vese mundhu pitch full study cheyyala !!
. federal outreach aaa.??.. here federal is reaching into religion. This is an exception federal govt is giving on original .. applicable only if you can justify moral and religious grounds .. andhariki kadhu!!
Now what religions are against contraceptives.. hmm!?? :-)

This one is for base. This one is not about contraceptives but religious belief vunna employer paying for contraceptives as part of insurance. I don't believe this affects more 1% of people. This is more symbolic gesture . The reason adminstrstion gave is 'they don't want hostility to religious liberty'
I don't even believe anyone will use this exception..

Internal polling lo religious group meedha pattu tagguthundani feedback vachindhemo :-)
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 11:53 pm:       

Morning after is otc plus there are so many home made contraceptives available
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 11:36 pm:       


Andhravodu:

premarital sex.



It's a combination of these factors.
Religious beliefs, sanctity of marriage, anti abortion belief, pro-life etc.
Using contraceptives is against all of those factors. Obvious ga Republicans won't support it.
Obama disregarded it.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 11:04 pm:       


Jai_ycp:



Moviebuff001:


contraceptives are cheap and highly cost effective. Much better than high cost alternatives

Repubs edupu allaa religious crying for premarital sex. That dam was broken long time ago..
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 09:42 pm:       


Andhravodu:

medical insurance ki contraceptive rx ki link edutunnavu endi?



Contraceptives preventative care lo ki ravu. Intakumundu anni plans cover chesevi kadu.
Prenatal pills ki 10 kharchu aite veetiki 70 to 100 ayyedi. Different level of prescription coverage based on the medicine.
Most Republicans do not support this coverage as they don't see it as a necessity due to religious beliefs.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 09:16 pm:       


Andhravodu:




Employers pick up plans which include insurance and prescription benefits. Earlier there is a mandate that you should select prescription benefits that include contraceptive. Now there’s No mandate. They can still select plans that include prescription with BC. What’s stopping them. I don’t think it adds too much cost for them
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:55 pm:       


Jai_ycp:


medical insurance ki contraceptive rx ki link edutunnavu endi?
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:54 pm:       


Andhravodu:



Emc2:




I am not understanding the point here. When did all companies provide same insurance benefits? We all pay different money and choose different plans HMO, PPO.

End of the day it’s a benefit. It’s part of fringe cost for company. They always differ from
Employer to employer
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:23 pm:       


Jai_ycp:




Ilanti comedy tho enduku saava denxthunnaru GOP gallu
Jobs dorakadam kastam ante insurance kosam job change avvala

Please koncham sensible ga matladandi
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:18 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

If an employee does not like this lack of benefit, he can join other company which gives this


yeah, let's shoot jobs out of a job cannon and it'll sprinkle on the people

federal policy is uniform for a reason. ila exemptions ichukuntu pote lickiyo
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 08:06 pm:       


Emc2:




What is so bad about this. Still employers who want to provide that benefit can do. Employers
Who does not want can not. If an employee does not like this lack of benefit, he can join other company which gives this.

Isn’t this better
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 06:16 pm:       

Picha kuntla gadu, erri poo saale gadu eedu eedi statements

Aa nalla saala gadu unnadi unchakunda mottam kampu chesi denxdu

Ippudu ee metal lambdike gadu inka kampu chesthunnadu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 04:28 pm:       


Sachin:



this wa snot part of original ACA. 2012 lo add chesaru. why force people to pay for abortion and contraceptive care when they don't want to pay. if your emoloyer doesn't provide this service, leave job find another one who does. end of the day it is a benefit if you need it.

Good for him as he is identifying federal outreach and rollbacking them.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 04:14 pm:       


Moviebuff001:

Church is traditionally against using contraceptives. Base kosam idi. Church lo change vaste, idi kooda marutundi.




base kosam denni lekka cheyadugaa trump
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 04:05 pm:       


Sachin:

why good for him?



Church is traditionally against using contraceptives. Base kosam idi. Church lo change vaste, idi kooda marutundi.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 04:00 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

good for him.




why good for him?
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 03:56 pm:       

FDA OTC ki veetini eppatiki approve chestado.
 

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Posted on Friday, October 06, 2017 - 03:25 pm:       

good for him.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu

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