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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 02:11 pm:       

AW, do u think they r dumb. Jugaad will not help you. They r bringing anti-boycott laws. All bases are covered.

Oka pakka muslims ki rent ivvatledu boycotting antaaru. Inko pakka housing society lo slaughtering is their religious right ani courts chepthunnaayi. Congress malli vachi Communal Violence Bill pass chesthe inkaa Siloan will be happy for his cousins in India.

http://m.mid-day.com/articles/mumbai-kurla-society-cleaved-i n-two-over-goat-slaughter/17610169
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 01:33 pm:       


Lichtenberg:

Your cousin or father goes to a shop run by Muslim and gets into a small fight, your cousin/father will be put in jail by default - regardless of who is at fault.




Boycott minority run business
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 12:28 pm:       

Whitecollar, I am not sure but I don't think there is an equivalent caste in AP. They run large number of schools(and maTams) via a society. This move is for the privilege being enjoyed by minorities. If they are gived minority status, govt cannot take over their maTams(lke govt cannot take over churches/mosques). Central education laws don't apply to them if they get non-Hindu status.

In the past, Ramakrishna Mission(started by Vivekananda, no less) also claimed they are not Hindus to get minority privileges. This minority tag is the ultimate prize in India. Because you get freedom to run your institutions.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ramkrishna-missions-non-h indu-claim-causes-dismay-among-many-of-its-followers/1/34815 2.html


Even rich Jains lobbied for this and got it because they get freedom to run institutions. This is the current status of Hindus.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/after-jains-maybe-hindus-sect s-too-should-be-declared-minorities-1350609.html
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:47 am:       

//siggupadu//
busy ..bye
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:47 am:       


Siloan:

I dont care antunna


siggupadu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:46 am:       

//mundara ee neechanni khandinchu //
I dont care antunna
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:43 am:       


Siloan:


bjp manchidi cheddadi anedi pakkaa ett u ee mundara ee neechanni khandinchu
bjp meeda vere thread lo eyyi neecham ga tidadam oka naa
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:42 am:       

//ikkada situation enti thani gravity enti //
BP techchukoku...defnet ga "mana ki" aina daanikanna takkuve ..nee drussti lopam...nenu tdp fan ainantha maatraana BJP manchidaipodu...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:40 am:       


Lichtenberg:

It is now leading the charge to get a separate religion tag for the Veerashaiva Lingayat community.




wow
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:34 am:       


Siloan:


ikkada situation enti thani gravity enti ani alochinchakunda edava sollu dialogs avasarama?
for suppose Bs ni oka pratyeka matamga gurtinchi reservations iste nuvvu ela eel ayitavu ??


bajapa meda mata e aap vallo e nitish gado ante bagundedi tdp lati kuhana laukika appeasing party ki antha seen ledu ... dani fans ki antakanna ledu ..

mundara mana nalupu chuskovali kada ook dialogs cheppe mundu ..
ayina lingayats already bc status in karnataka inka emi istaru ..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:28 am:       

@egam babai...bazapa meedha maaata padanivvavu ga...parlament pe hamla aina kooda ..reality entante...national parties ki shouth lo enni mukkalaina...border isues levu ganuka...sab chalthaaa...narukkunodiki narukkunantha.....let them split ...babu ippud 11 distit cm...nee blessings vundaali..u continue
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:19 am:       


Lichtenberg:

Your cousin or father goes to a shop run by Muslim and gets into a small fight, your cousin/father will be put in jail by default - regardless of who is at fault.


babanna and chamchas enduku fight chestaru ramadan tofa istaru baga nakutaru kavalante ..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:16 am:       

Siloan,

Cong already drafted Communal Violence Bill - this is on the lines of SC/ST atrocity act. When minority and majority are in a fight, majority are presumed guilty and arrested like in SC/ST case.

Your cousin or father goes to a shop run by Muslim and gets into a small fight, your cousin/father will be put in jail by default - regardless of who is at fault.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:13 am:       

Siloan, don't betray the cousins you left behind. Show an example where BJP took away rights from anyone.

Art 19(1)(g) gives right to profession. Supreme Court gave equal rights to Hindus in 2002 per Art 19(1)(g). Sonia inserted Art 15(5) overriding this i.e, The right to profession given by Article 19 is taken away from Hindus. For now, it is only education. IN future, if Cong comes to power again, they might take away rights from other professions.

This is Art 15(5)

"(5) Nothing in this article or in sub-clause (g) of clause (1) of article 19 shall prevent the State from making any special provision, by law, for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes in so far as such special provisions relate to their admission to educational institutions including private educational institutions, whether aided or unaided by the State, other than the minority educational institutions referred to in clause (1) of article 30.".
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:12 am:       

my previous post addressed to only siloan

litchenberg uncle ninnu kadu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:11 am:       


Lichtenberg:



Siloan:

BJP gaaallu emnanna takkuva tinnara endhi ..divide and split lo


siggupadu mala madiga vargeekarana chesta annadi bob ena? muslims ki reservations ichindi evadu modi na?
evadi appeasing vadidi pakkodini andam
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:07 am:       

I suspect this special privilege is the reason why only minority institutes are showing interest in Amaravathi. XLRI - Christian minority, VIT-Tamil minority(?). Telugu Hindus won't be having autonomy in running edu in Amaravathi.

Even if CBN govt makes a contact about jobs/quotas in exchange for land or other stuff, he cannot enforce the contract. Recently Delhi court voided such a contract under Art 30(1).
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:03 am:       

Just a couple of days ago, BJP MP Mahesh Girri introduced this private bill to amend Art 15(5) so that the laws apply equally.

Calling Chanakya......Smriti was shunted out for mentioning this. Probably Modi is afraid of touching this.

https://swarajyamag.com/ideas/long-way-to-go-before-wrongs-o f-rte-are-set-right-but-maheish-girri-has-taken-the-first-st eps
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:02 am:       


Lichtenberg:

They want to declare Lingayats a separate religion




ee lingayats ki AP lo equalant cassette emiti?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:01 am:       

BJP gaaallu emnanna takkuva tinnara endhi ..divide and split lo
#goshoinego
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 11:00 am:       

In 2002, supreme court gave equal rights to Hindus on par with minorities in education sector(before that judgement, rights of Hindus <<< rights of minorities) As soon as UPA govt came to power, they inserted Art 15(5) to override the supreme court judgement. Now rights of Hindus << rights of minorities - back to status before 2002 SC judgement.

Read history of Art 15(5)

https://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2015/03/22/how-congress-p ursued-its-invidious-legislative-agenda-post-win-in-2004-his tory-of-the-93rd-const-amendment/
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 10:51 am:       

It is not in the link I posted but it is in the screenshot of print edition. See what education minister explicitly says "By getting separate religion tag, Lingayat community will get minority status and the resultant benefits from that."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFjaAqMUIAAvfS1?format=jpg&name= large
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 10:37 am:       

Now, government bats for separate religion for Lingayats

By Express News Service | Published: 25th July 2017 10:49 AM |

Last Updated: 25th July 2017 10:49 AM | A+A A- |

BENGALURU: After being pushed on the backfoot over the separate state flag issue, the Siddaramaiah government has come up with another issue to outflank the BJP in a poll year. It is now leading the charge to get a separate religion tag for the Veerashaiva Lingayat community.

In a move that could have huge social and political impact ahead of the forthcoming Assembly election in the state, five ministers belonging to the Veerashaiva community in the Sidddaramaiah cabinet have decided to take the lead in evolving public opinion in favour of declaring Veerashaiva Lingayat community as a separate religion.

The team comprising Higher Education Minister Basavaraj Rayareddy, Minister for Mining Vinay Kulkarni, Minister for Medical Education Sharan Prakash Patil, Minister for Municipal Administration Eshwar Khandre and Horticulture Minister S S Mallikarjun is set to tour the state soon to bring greater momentum for the movement for a separate religion. They are set to meet Veerashaiva Lingayat leaders, Lingayat muttsâ heads and social thinkers to seek their opinion on the demand.

Based on the response, the team will submit a memorandum to Siddaramaiah urging him to recommend to the Centre to declare Veerashaiva Lingayat a separate religion. Announcing the initiative, Rayareddy, however, clarified that it was not an official move of the government. âAll the five of us are from the Veerashaiva Lingayat community and it is our community-based initiative to get the much-delayed religion status to the community,â he said.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2017 - 10:37 am:       

Perfect example of how Congress works. The larger project of breaking up Hindu society.

They want to declare Lingayats a separate religion because if you are a non-Hindu, you get legal benefits under Artcle 30(1), Article 15(5)-inserted by UPA Govt. These two articles provide autonomy to run educational inst and places of worship - this privilege is there only for minorities. Congress is promising this privilege by declaring them non-Hindus.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2017/jul/25 /now-government-bats-for-separate-religion-for-lingayats-163 3128.html

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