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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 07:17 pm:       


Madrascalcutta:


politicians and businessmen have been doing that in all civilizations across times..it is nothing new - they do it in India, they do it here , they do it everywhere

That has nothing to do with the deaths and displacement of millions of people ..
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 02:24 pm:       

Masula,

nuvvu nisthooraalu pothaa vere vaallani antaavendi...idem variety....u didn't respond to a single point.....nuvvu cheppindi.......asala enduku discuss chesthunnaaru ane meaning vasthundi......

rahul ni PM gaa elect cheyyandi ani Britons chepthunnaaru(check Economist, BBC etc.,).......laws emi chethunnaaru ......ivi elaa related ante vaallu manam evadni elect cheyyaalo chepthunnaru and you don't want to discuss their laws/systems? Unless you think you are inferior to them....


UK-based org asking for UN consultation status on caste.....read the links I posted....this is a strategic move for future....
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 02:13 pm:       


Jp_rocks:




They looted the country? They divided the country? What are our politicians and businessmen doing now and the last 70 years?
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 02:01 pm:       


Masularex:

.. naa meeda padi dry humping chesi gula theerchukoni eltaaru...




aa nuvvo illeana mari, ellahe :D

naan seppina point lo wrong vundaa
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 01:52 pm:       


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meeru prapancham lo denimeedaina maatlodocchu... object cheyataaki nenevarni... edanna miss ayindi anipiste mee argument ni question chestaru... dheenike antha nistooram deniki... ippudu uk lo vaalla own people ki chesukunna laws ki... uk india madya relations... uk lo konni organizations pro congress anti indian laws... enti idantha ela related ? adi akkada bathike prajala concern kada ? madyalo india enduku vasaddi... dhaani meeda manam chokkalu chimpukotam deniki ani... thappuga matladithe mannichandi... nenu out...
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 01:22 pm:       


Asdf:

idedo go to pakistan anedi seppinatle vundi


nuvvedanna target pettkunnava enti naaku denkulu petticchadaaki... ippudu aidaruguru dharma warriors vacchi context ki sambandam lekunda rendu mudu words highlight chesi... naa meeda padi dry humping chesi gula theerchukoni eltaaru...
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 01:14 pm:       


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ippudu UK ki evaru elthunnaaru......US lo ilaanti special laws targeting communities levu(even with the bad history of discrimination against blacks, there is no equivalent of SC/ST atrocity act in US)....India lo unnaayi.....you see migration happening which way......idi UK lo new immigrants ke kaadu....already akkade putti perigina vaallaki apply avuthindi...

nee point enti saami....asala discuss cheyyadame thappu antunnaavaa? Post cheyyoddu antunnaavaa? I posted how common code for all works and the special laws resulting in frivolous lawsuits....especially how non-visible thing like caste disc will be diffcult to prove(unlike black vs white)...find fault in it and discuss.....if you don't want to discuss, ignore....
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 01:08 pm:       


Masularex:

antha biased uk lo manollu athmabhimanam champukoni undatam deniki maastaru... yentene bayalderi hamara mahan bharat ki vaccheymanandi




idedo go to pakistan anedi seppinatle vundi :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 01:01 pm:       


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antha biased uk lo manollu athmabhimanam champukoni undatam deniki maastaru... yentene bayalderi hamara mahan bharat ki vaccheymanandi... ikkada kummesukundam...
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 12:24 pm:       


Masularex:

uk sikhs lo caste discrimination rampant... murders kuda jarigaayi




these murders are not covered under current criminal code?

black on white crime - same section of criminal code
white on black crime - same section of criminal code
you call a black person N-word - you will be shamed but not put in jail. Do you see the difference of not having separate criminal codes?
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 12:20 pm:       


Masularex:

their country, their laws... madyalo mana pisukudu endo ?




British Labour party is against India reg. Kashmir - why do they do it? There are UK-based organizations which routinely talk about Indian laws - their tune is in line with Congress party.

Why do Ny Times, Wash Post, BBC, Economist discuss Indian laws and publish who Indian should vote for before every election?(Of course they supported Rahul in 2014 and they will do the same in 2019)
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 11:45 am:       


Madrascalcutta:


everything the colonials did was to line up their pockets...your posts are a testament to their divide and rule policy..appatlo bakras anukovachu it is appalling to see people like you who still believe their smoke n mirror 'reforms' (while looting the country)
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 10:53 am:       


Masularex:

regressive laws kaadu kada positive gaane theesukovaali





i would not be surprised if uk/canada sardars are like that.

vere caste vallani cheskunnaru ani sontha kids ni desam lo henchmen ni petti murders bhi cheyinchina instances vunnai.

aina db lo oo antoo em aindi, asalu enduku vachindi ane ga most people kochen.
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 10:47 am:       


Asdf:

rule meeda ne fix avvali mari


yee saariki oggey... aapukunna aagaledu...

regressive laws kaadu kada positive gaane theesukovaali maree gundelu baadhukotam deniki ani naa bhaavam... uk sikhs lo caste discrimination rampant... murders kuda jarigaayi... vaallani kuda indulo include chesaaro ledo theliyadu...
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 10:38 am:       


Masularex:

their country, their laws... madyalo mana pisukudu endo ?




+1

ee rule meeda ne fix avvali mari :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 10:37 am:       


Madrascalcutta:

And they brought reforms in South Indian society that probably people in this forum itself benefitted from. Hard to digest this for some.




i think you reputation precedes your posts. konni aani mutyaalu

- hinduism does NOT believe in evolution bla bla
- glad that hindu girls are moving to TRUE religion like islam and christianity.

its always interesting to hear your perspective though :D
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 10:31 am:       

their country, their laws... madyalo mana pisukudu endo ?

aggrieved parties role lekundane kotta laws thecchestara ? hinduism meeda descrination usual western bad mouthing anta... gundelu baadhukonuta shuru... typical

lungi pole vaulters ni control cheyadaaniki India boarder fencing este bangladeshis ittage edchaaru... maa manobhavalu debbathinnay idi maaku insulting gaa undi ani... lol
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 08:44 am:       


Jp_rocks:




That's why I said they fought hard for equality in 'their' society.

And they brought reforms in South Indian society that probably people in this forum itself benefitted from. Hard to digest this for some.
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 12:11 am:       


Madrascalcutta:

Causcasians worked hard to get equality going in their society. Will be sad to see Browns and Arabs go ruin that


cha? evenings ni alochana vidhanam inthena?

equality my ass..they built their empire on the graves of millions of people..maree anta self respect leni comments ela chestaro janalu?

Hindu society has its share of discrimination but so do other societies..
 

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Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2017 - 12:02 am:       

kulakukkalu
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 11:57 pm:       

reservations dobbadaniki religion kavali malli adukku tinadaniki kooda deenne vadite etta ?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 11:37 pm:       

Caste ani gola chesi reservations pettalane final plan

Indulo band tellodike padutundi, anduke vallu oppukovatledu
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 10:35 pm:       

UK is right. Some humane Englishmen helped eliminate so much awful casteist stuff in India. Still, they couldn't reform much of North. Will be sad if they allow Hindus and Muslims to take their chaotic and evil customs there.

The Causcasians worked hard to get equality going in their society. Will be sad to see Browns and Arabs go ruin that.
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 10:09 pm:       

mundhu UK lo, secular byatchi ni control cheyyandi raa naayana
aa tharuvaatha kulam, gothram, nakshathram sangathi soodochu
Ignore spam and AJ.
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:51 pm:       

archive loki pokunda bump
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 10:26 am:       


Ipc302:

Unkul appudappudu 50 minute videos kooda choodandi




:D

soor soor, thanks for the summary
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 10:08 am:       


Last_avataar:

Hindu groups ni bad cheyyataniki ilanti minor issues ni baaga project chestaaru




ide battamline ani samajh ayyindi

atu NYTimes vaadu Yogi Adityanath meeda article publishing..

veellu ee law making..

valla desam lo unna bokkal soosukonte better..
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 10:02 am:       


Asdf:

5 bullet points vunte seppu annai.

from the headline, it looks like uk desis are being mean casteists



basic ga they want to corner hindu/hinduism into a discriminatory system....ee caste godava antha Brit-Indians ni dividing and making Hinduism look bad anedhi main argument....
this started a few years ago when a case was filed against an employer by their maid/employee...it morphed into a castiest issue even when the judgement didnt imply that...
manaki casteism ledhu ani evadu anadu but they are implying that casteism is evident and thriving in every day british hindu life....agraharams oori bayata dalitulu type jeevitham hindus dhi ani propaganda
Unkul appudappudu 50 minute videos kooda choodandi
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:55 am:       

Businessmen/Employer or even ordinary people who employ others will be targeted with frivolous lawsuits. Hindus have to comply with all the laws plus this one.

The real target is elsewhere. There are missionary-funded groups in UK which are asking UN consultation status and want to target India and Hindus.(Britian is officially a Christian country where Anglican Bishops sit in parliament. These guys cry routinely in their parilament on Hindus.)

No wonder Hindus are not voting en bloc to Labor party like other 'minorities' in UK.

Here are the arguments from Hindu side
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/religionpublicsphere/2016/10/what-lie s-behind-the-inclusion-of-caste-in-the-uk-equality-act/
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:52 am:       


Ipc302:

50 minute video




5 bullet points vunte seppu annai.

from the headline, it looks like uk desis are being mean casteists
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:50 am:       

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkybwLF0sMM&t=1s

50 minute video which puts it into a real perspective abou the law, people opposed to the law
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:48 am:       

Just because it is couched in Orwellian terms doesn't mean it is good ("You are against anti-discrimination law, so you are pro-discrimination?")

You cannot narrowly target a specific community. I think this would not pass basic tests if it were US(I mention US because the founder of thewire.in Sid Varadarajan is a US citizen and such laws won't pass basic tests in US.)

Now let us put the law to test:
1) Platypus runs a small to medium business. Now Film_fan goes to Platypus for a job or he wants some service from Film_fan as a client.
2) After the first interaction, Film_fan files a lawsuit against Platypus for caste discrimination.

There are two issues to prove here
a) that Platypus knew what caste Film_fan belongs to. Remember this is not visible like white vs. black. How will it work? How does Platypus prove that he did not know caset of Film_fan?
b) that he discriminated based on test.

How will Platypus escape a)
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 09:41 am:       

Pichinakodukulu, ilanti laws to apagalara, mundu tells strikes to denkipokunda chudandi. Hindu groups ni bad cheyyataniki ilanti minor issues ni baaga project chestaaru
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 07:38 am:       

hinduism lo cassette system is worst ani okallu cheppakkarledu we all know it ..
ikapote danivalla 50% ppl got benefits thru reservations etc in india ..

eellalo kondaru dalit activists malli vachi we are deprived for generations ani cutting istaru oka 2-3 generations reservation pondina families ki last priority type categorisation cheyyali ani cheppandi mookummadi ga meedapadi kummestaru ..

i guess billionaires ki collectors lanti post lo unna valla pillaki reservation avasarama?
arent they eating the grains which are supposed to go to the weakest of the weaker sections ? noo one talks in india about this ..

ink thed lo esa copy pasting
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 07:26 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:


uncle there must be existing laws of equality of all kinds gender /race in UK

why we need to have a bew law anedi question ?? Cant believe a country like UK doesnt have these ..

ikapote spl ga law ante at the behest of other religions and groups ani naa uddesam ..
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 07:22 am:       


Raman:

simply hindu ism caste system depriving millions at abroad also ani seppadaniki anukovachu kada ??

problem telsukuni solution chudala kada ?




if there are two candidates for a job, and one is from your caste and the other is a non-immigrant white Brit, and they chose a guy from their caste.?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 07:14 am:       


Pete_sampras:

You don't have to understand it but let me ask you, what is wrong with having a law which will help any discrimination that may happen which you are not aware of


simply hindu ism caste system depriving millions at abroad also ani seppadaniki anukovachu kada ??

problem telsukuni solution chudala kada ?


similar law against muslims classify them into sc st so that benefits can be given to some is opposed by upper caste muslims in india .. they do not want to acknowledge the problem in the first place ..
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:48 am:       


Raman:

what is the discrimination faced by ppl of uk i dont under stand ??



You don't have to understand it but let me ask you, what is wrong with having a law which will help any discrimination that may happen which you are not aware of :D
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:41 am:       


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idi e stage lo chestaru resume scrutiny stage lone chustara?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:41 am:       


Platypus:




akkada kuda meere dominate chestunnara?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:35 am:       


Platypus:

For instance Brahmins not giving jobs to other caste folks from India etc in the UK.


idi ela sadhyam ?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:33 am:       


Raman:

what is the discrimination faced by ppl of uk i dont under stand ??




Faced by Indians in the UK among themselves. For instance Brahmins not giving jobs to other caste folks from India etc in the UK.
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:27 am:       

what is the discrimination faced by ppl of uk i dont under stand ??
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:11 am:       

what are they planning to do unkl
 

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Posted on Friday, July 14, 2017 - 06:08 am:       

https://thewire.in/156080/caste-discrimination-uk-theresa-ma y/

Caste is rearing its ugly head again, this time in an unlikely place – the United Kingdom. Under pressure from rights groups and sections of civil society, the Theresa May government has moved to take its first steps towards banning caste-based discrimination in the public sphere. It has called for public opinions on whether caste discrimination will be best tackled by a ban on it through a new law or not, a consultation which will end on September 18, after which the government will take a final call.

However, the backlash from Hindu organisations, several of them close to the Sangh parivar, has been swift. They are livid at the government’s move and have threatened to derail it with all their might. This has now made the May government’s resolve in banning caste-based discrimination wobbly – it doesn’t want to appear to be taking on these vocal groups.

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