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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 01:53 pm:       

This is official name, not even a joke

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:57 am:       


Bithiri_bathi:

now young folks don't have an incentive to get insurance, this will only create older folks and high risk pools and the only way to for insurance companies to recoup their losses is by increasing premiums


working as designed. itu pakkana young kids ni life long medical bills esi chava gottochu, atu pakkana musali valla savings ni kotteyochu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:51 am:       

YCP brother,

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which people you are talking about. tax people to pay remaining people is not being on their side.
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for eg. you justified taking out the regulations on coal businesses. But, who will pay for all the pollution and health problems that arise from that business? Under republicans, Coal businesses can make all the profit, but no responsibility to clean up any mess after them.

Similarly Finance businesses, they can make ridicuolus money, but when things go wrong, they are not responsible.

Like that so many examples. Agreed with your view on excessive regulations, but I don't like NO REGULATIONS either.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:50 am:       


Stellar:

avi evadu adagad le kaani. nuvvu human race antha same IQ tho pudatar, konthamandi lazy avvatam valla vaallu earn cheyatam led ani fix ayyav. nuvvu aa baavi lo nunchi bayataki ravali.




enduku adagaru. ippudu health adagatala. already college adugutunnaru. housing kuda projects already jargutunnayi. one need is satisfied then other need kicks in.

see the progression of health insurance.
During the 1920s, individual hospitals began offering services to individuals on a pre-paid basis, eventually leading to the development of Blue Cross organizations in the 1930s. The first employer-sponsored hospitalization plan was created by teachers in Dallas, Texas in 1929.

Gattiga 100 years leni need ee roju necassity ante mari miglinavi.


entha chettu ku natha gali mataeru. okadiki heakth , inkodiki wealth, inkodiki talent, inkodiki peace of mind vuntundhi. tarchi chusthe prathi vodiki oka velithi vuntundhi. evadiki vadu vadi velathi ni poorthi chesukovali pakkanodu dabbu tho kadhu.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:41 am:       


Tombrady:

we are again screwed, premiums perughtayi chudandi




not sure if it's covered in the thread...now young folks don't have an incentive to get insurance, this will only create older folks and high risk pools and the only way to for insurance companies to recoup their losses is by increasing premiums
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:41 am:       


Jai_ycp:

ippudu health, tarvatha house, college, 6 digit salary, aa tarvatha kim kardhisini kuda necessary ee. . antha necessity anukunte earn it.




avi evadu adagad le kaani. nuvvu human race antha same IQ tho pudatar, konthamandi lazy avvatam valla vaallu earn cheyatam led ani fix ayyav. nuvvu aa baavi lo nunchi bayataki ravali.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:39 am:       

we are again screwed, premiums perughtayi chudandi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:37 am:       


Bushu:

s a necessity. not a luxury



ippudu health, tarvatha house, college, 6 digit salary, aa tarvatha kim kardhisini kuda necessary ee. . antha necessity anukunte earn it.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 11:36 am:       


Gsn1:

Democrats side 70 to 80% with people.



idhioka myth. traditional business rep ki support chestaru. climate change is a bug business. dems kunde business dems kunnayi. em,i lekundane all wall street rooted for clinton. pharma companies drug price control chesada obama.

which people you are talking about. tax people to pay remaining people is not being on their side. its called vote bank politics. mee definition corretc ayithe india lo vunannatha politicians ekkada vundaru.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 09:09 am:       

Jai_Ycp

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business killing regulations chesthe ela avvutundhi saami? govt cannot run institutes anedhi india choosi nerchukoledha?
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Agreed. At the same time, I don't want the people killing and business favoring rules also.

We cann't let businesses go irresponsible with their actions without fearing consequences.

Republicans side with 70 to 80% with businesses and Democrats side 70 to 80% with people.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:26 pm:       

My only comment is

I love Trump care, theda vasthe kummandi. I'm glad obama care is gone
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:11 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

repeal individual and Employer Mandate - govt should never mandate people to buy health insurances in the first place. relief for small business who are burdened by obama care costs




This is the fundamental core of the universal healthcare. Instead of squeezing the insurance companies and pharma companies and bringing down the costs to make healthcare more affordable and bringing more people into the coverage, we have to deal with people who say - why should employer be obligated to cover their employees, why should insurance companies do certain things or not to keep their margins high.

Please dont call this universal healthcare but commercial health care. No one said Obamacare is flawless. But it is a good first step.

God bless guys
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:56 pm:       


Gsn1:

but I am against giving entitlements to corporations also



business killing regulations chesthe ela avvutundhi saami? govt cannot run institutes anedhi india choosi nerchukoledha?
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:22 pm:       

There are losers in Obamacare for sure. With Trumpcare, there will be new losers. Thats it. You cannot deploy something that will satisfy many more
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:05 pm:       


Emc2:

Bill pass avvadu antunnaru

Dead on arrival


part of the process.. atu itu chesi rendu teesi rendu add chesi tosestaaru... this is extremely presitigeous for president and Paul Ryan. I think they wil put weight behind it!! 100 day flyer lo idhi lekapothe kastam :-)

One more thing little bit relevant, I think planned parenthood should separate abortion from its agenda next four years... it' is very important program . Trump has established he is not going to back down.. liberals may think this is a winnable cause but .. there are some compromises that need to be made. The down side doesn't bode well for poor people.. Abortion fight can be taken separately in case by case basis
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:00 pm:       


Gsn1:

Republicans are corporate welfarists




doubt ledu


Gsn1:

democrats are people's welfarists




*vote bank.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:58 pm:       


Emc2:

Bill pass avvadu antunnaru

Dead on arrival

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/obamacare-repeal-repl ace-bill-congress/index.html


veediki hadavidi ekkuva - if they dont repeal they will lose in 2 years all of the reps will come together. already house replublicans are saying they will come with their version so lets wait and see. if the best bill comes out of this its better for everybody
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:54 pm:       

Republicans are corporate welfarists and democrats are people's welfarists. As I mentioned earlier, I prefer distributing billions to millions of people rather than distributing to 10 or 20 rich folks through corporate welfare.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:52 pm:       

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Basic premise of free market Basic premise of free market is not to provide entitlements to poor but provide them jobs so that they can pay for themselves.
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Agreed that too many entitlements are bad, but I am against giving entitlements to corporations also, not only to poor people. You cann't take out all the regulations that keeps corporations in check and balance things.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:48 pm:       

Bill pass avvadu antunnaru

Dead on arrival

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/obamacare-repeal-repl ace-bill-congress/index.html
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:37 pm:       


Jalsa:

bottomline, manaki premiums taggutaya ledha?


first day ne kada it will take time to get a shape to the proposal , there will be more things added to it before it takes final shape
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:36 pm:       


Jai_ycp:


One more biggest entitlement program ni tunchesunnaru - good i wish they had more discussions and get better provisions.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 08:22 pm:       


Gsn1:




Basic premise of free market is not to provide entitlements to poor but provide them jobs so that they can pay for themselves.

India nunchi vachina meeku ee entitlements anevj never ending story ani telvadha. They boost business so that more people get to work which in turn will increase revenue for govt.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 03:21 pm:       

Eee republicans first cut plans anni poor people ki help ayye vatine. The health insurance reform, they are trying to change the rules to help insurance companies.

On the other hand, they take out all the regulations which will help big corporation and fat cats. The relaxation of coal & Finance industry regulations are directly going to help big coal companies and wall street firms. They don't want to penalize the coal industries that pollute drinking water and air which indirectly affects the same people that they claim to be helping in keeping their jobs. Who is going to bear the cost for cleaning up the polluted rivers?

Under republicans, the general rule is companies doesn't need to take responsibilities for their actions on the pretext that they provide jobs.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 12:24 pm:       

across state lines insurance and competition btw insurance companies will bring down premiums annadu

daani meeda yemayina vunda ee kotha bill lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 12:21 pm:       

public healthcare (and not 'access to healthcare' as leading repubs would want us to think) is a necessity. not a luxury. just like basic education and security. we need an musk+kalanick+bezos type dude to completely disrupt the insurance hold over healthcare. appati dhaka sa ri ga ma pa.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 12:20 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

jsut 100 years back governments kings emi chesevaro cheppu chudhamu.



yep meeru 100 yrs back vundi poyaru
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:51 am:       

bottomline, manaki premiums taggutaya ledha?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:30 am:       


Jai_ycp:

idhi ekkada. Home school chesukovachu. provate school ki pampukovachu. public school lone chadavali ani law vundha? ekkada?




nee logic prakaram mandatory schooling ani mandate pettinappudu , manchi school arrange chesi appudu pettali kada.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:28 am:       


Jai_ycp:

sut 100 years back governments kings emi chesevaro cheppu chudhamu.




aa life kavala neeku?

 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:27 am:       

Just like how SSN is becoming unbearable for govt, health insurance kooda anthe. govts should show backbone and leave out of it. kavalante state dwara voche money kontha vallaki back ichi vallaki nachina policy pettuko manali with federal govt out of the way.

appudu ca lo 100% public option pettukuntadu. istamu vunnodu vuntadu ledha potharu aa state nundi.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:25 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:



ivanni supporting ki. its a savings account. health care reform cheyyali ante
a) drug costs control cheyyali
b) providers meedha liability tagginchali

aa costs cut kakunda govt subsidy ivvatamu, mandates cheyyatamu valla emi kaadhu.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:23 am:       


Stellar:

compulsory education mandate vundi, naa kid ki manchi school guarantee istara annattundi idi




idhi ekkada. Home school chesukovachu. provate school ki pampukovachu. public school lone chadavali ani law vundha? ekkada?

Kukatpally:

yevadayina rethug congressman gaadini nuvvu cheppina bad and ugly lo... points ni oppose cheyyamanu



anduke kadha rand paul gadu kummutunnadu dheni obamacare lite ani.

Kukatpally:

54 billion new money for defense



asalu tax kattedhi defense, law and order, public infrastructure, public health ki. miglindhi antha bonus ee.

jsut 100 years back governments kings emi chesevaro cheppu chudhamu.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:18 am:       


Bharat:

This is a major flaw in American insurance industry. I don't know how it is in India. I think insurance paying for everything is actually increasing overall healthcare costs.




:-)

thats the point.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:13 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Health insurance - although is named insurance, it is not exactly the same. the provider covers even your regular visits to a doctor, whether you have a problem or not.




This is a major flaw in American insurance industry. I don't know how it is in India. I think insurance paying for everything is actually increasing overall healthcare costs.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:11 am:       


Jai_ycp:

car, home, health, life, term, college tuition anni anthe kadha. concept same. basic ga month intha kattu avasaramu apudu vaduko ani.

if govt can mandate what you eat and dont, then they can mandate health insurance.




vunkl ... health insurance is not really insurance. Auto Insurance is just that, an insurance policy in cases of big problems to the car. Like Auto insurance does not cover routine maintenance. If you have a flat tire, auto insurance will not cover it.

Health insurance - although is named insurance, it is not exactly the same. the provider covers even your regular visits to a doctor, whether you have a problem or not.

Auto Insurance policy is geared towards the holder, the more risky prospect you are, you will end up paying more. Thats the not the case with Heatlh insurance, the pricing rarely changes by individual.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:10 am:       


Fargo:



54 billion new money for defense... but pakkintodu mana cost bear cheyyali anukodam tappu... idi rethug mentality
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:09 am:       

medicaid touch cheyyali ante shake... Ohio loves it... inko ni big state touch cheste slipper

per-existing touch cheste town halls lo shouting nundi manhandle cheste range ki potharu

kids upto age 26... universal ga like chese point kaneesam noru lepe scene kuda ledu ee point meeda
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:07 am:       


Jai_ycp:

f govt can mandate what you eat and dont, then they can mandate health insurance.




compulsory education mandate vundi, naa kid ki manchi school guarantee istara annattundi idi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:07 am:       


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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:06 am:       


Jai_ycp:



ee sollantha yenduku... yevadayina rethug congressman gaadini nuvvu cheppina bad and ugly lo... points ni oppose cheyyamanu
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:03 am:       


Kukatpally:

allow' 'can stay' ki mandate ani coloring okati




insurance company cant deny kadha. adhe mandate ante. vunchatamu vunchakapotamu nee istamu.

Kukatpally:

ar insurance and health insurance shame shame



car, home, health, life, term, college tuition anni anthe kadha. concept same. basic ga month intha kattu avasaramu apudu vaduko ani.

if govt can mandate what you eat and dont, then they can mandate health insurance.

ala kakunda na istamu vachinatu vunta, tinta, pandutha but naaku jabbu vasthe govt subsidy iyyala. pakkintody na cost bharinchala ante claifornia libtards kooda anukoru emo.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:03 am:       


Jai_ycp:

are you talking about claim or insurance?



insurance
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:01 am:       


Jai_ycp:

car insurance vundi drive chesta accident ayithe cover cheyyali
accident aina car ni join chetha dheni fix cheyyi antama? nuvve cheppe case alantidhi?


denemma logic ni denkaaa
STEROIDS ante sex ke vadataru anukunee VP lu vunnarannamata db lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:01 am:       


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deeni kosam last year antha chavadobbar



last 7 years
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:00 am:       

iyyalati gulika... car insurance and health insurance shame shame
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:58 am:       

hard core rethug ani prove chesukodaniki ye end kayina yeltharemo

trailer trash rethugs from alabama kuda ila think cheyyaru

btw 26 varaku parents insurance meeda kids vundali ani yevadu mandate cheyyatledu.. if kid gets a job and his employer provides insurance they can happily take it... 'allow' 'can stay' ki mandate ani coloring okati
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:57 am:       


Stellar:



Bharat:




are you talking about claim or insurance? they will provide but wont cover the costs for pre-existing diseases. me case lo H1 ante guarantee group paln lo vuntadu already. leka priovate lo vunna insurance rteesukune check cheyyakapothe adhi company vadiki bokka. he cant deny after he joined.

either way poni aa tiny % suffer avvutharu anukunte, just prove that you have continuous coverage fox x number of years and then its ok ani pedithe best kadha.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:53 am:       

They are not doing the most important reform. Remove tax breaks for employer coverage and give it to individuals. So that insurance is no longer ties to your job.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:53 am:       

deny concept 50% vunna group policies ki effect kadhu. 34% vunna medicaid,medicare ki kadhu. remaining % ki issue anthe.

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:51 am:       


Jai_ycp:

alage you have insurance and you get sick. then you get paid.




Before Obamacare, if you apply for insurance, they could look at medical history and deny. So if you lose your job, you lose your coverage and no other company will provide it.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:51 am:       


Jai_ycp:

car insurance vundi drive chesta accident ayithe cover cheyyali
accident aina car ni join chetha dheni fix cheyyi antama? nuvve cheppe case alantidhi?




sare nenu cheppe example lo emi cheyali cheppu.

H1 meeda oka kurradu vachdu. insurance teesukunnad. kaani athaniki heart problem eppati nuncho vundi kaani telvadu. adi pre existing condn ani reject chesthe ela vuntadi?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:50 am:       


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kaani govt mandating private companies is not a great idea.




yes, on paper, but the situation was brought upon by themselves. one day when you have free time, try calling some of your local hospitals, and try to get an appointment, and say you are self-pay patient and do not have insurance. See the responses. Now, i am not talking about speciality treatments like botox or weightloss, and i am also not talking about emergency cases.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:48 am:       

GOP pettina plan lo corporations ki oka advantage vadilaru. adi tappithe deeni valla common man ki use led. deeni kosam last year antha chavadobbar
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:48 am:       


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neekedanna jabbu ochaka insurance odu dengeyyamante telustadi G lo noppi




ne pilla puvvu sapnardhalu madhichi M lo pettuko. neneu cheppina dhaniki pre existing disease tho john avvataniki link aa? nenu annadhi ardhamu chesukunetha capacity nee burra ki ledhu kani ee example chudu

car insurance vundi drive chesta accident ayithe cover cheyyali
accident aina car ni join chetha dheni fix cheyyi antama? nuvve cheppe case alantidhi?

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:45 am:       


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neekedanna jabbu ochaka insurance odu dengeyyamante telustadi G lo noppi
STEROIDS ante sex ke vadataru anukunee VP lu vunnarannamata db lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:44 am:       

eee jai ycp kurrad...vere lokam lo bathukutaa cvuntaadu
STEROIDS ante sex ke vadataru anukunee VP lu vunnarannamata db lo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:44 am:       


Stellar:

teesukokapothe adi fine kattali kada. nuvvu cheppina lady case inka full fines leni rojullo




subsidies ponu adu kattedhi 200 vuntundhi emo max. dhaniki 30% surcharge ante 60$ per month extra. adho peddha deterrent aa.

dhanikanna continous coverage lekapothe pre existing diseases ki claim deny cheyyochu ani pedithe problem solve avvudhi kadha.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:42 am:       

medicaid expansion teesukunna states ki advantage papamu public opinion ni tattukuni medicaid expansion teesukoni states ki emi ledhu. adho flaw
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:40 am:       

ippudu llc company owner with 1 employee of own family corporate insurance konukovochha adhi cheppandi first
bum gadi tuglak plan lo adhi lechi poindhi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:40 am:       


Jai_ycp:

vadiki aa katte 100 per months waste la anipisthundhi kabatti. neenu kindha ichindhi real incident. i posted some time ago with link.

alage oka nurse cheppindhi ee dialysys entha misuse avvudho. free ga vasthe evadiki health care teesuko buddhi avvadu




teesukokapothe adi fine kattali kada. nuvvu cheppina lady case inka full fines leni rojullo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:40 am:       


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mandate cheyyatamu endukun ani question. givt has no busienss in insuranc ebusiness. kakapothe manavatha drukpadamu tho very poor ki konni subsidies, lower middle clas ki tax breaks ivvochu to offset health costs. that is separate discussion. kaani govt mandating private companies is not a great idea.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:39 am:       


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the fact that you get diagnosed just when you are between jobs or changing insurance companies entha takkuva vuntundhi. nenu cheppe cases ekkuva. i posted examples of what people are doing in past threads.

Hep C vunna ammayi silent ga join ayyi treatment ki 60-70K kharchu ayyaka drop aipoindhi. subsidies poyaka tanu kattindhi 160 per month during that time. Oka 2K kattindhi. company vadiki gallo dabbulu vastaya aa remaining 68K ki. nee naa naa lanti vallu nethina pedathadu




you are takling about episodic cares which are not that expensive to began with. but most folks after certain get age get terminal issues, and they are forced to become pre-existing candidates.

Episodic cares very rarely fall in to pre-existing criteria
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:38 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

why government is not removing the cap on premiums.



anduke ugly lo petta. you are saying it is good so posting opinion anthe.

Stellar:

nuvvu cheppina drunkard poor fellow ayithe enduku insurance teesukodu? vadiki govt subsidy istadi kada



vadiki aa katte 100 per months waste la anipisthundhi kabatti. neenu kindha ichindhi real incident. i posted some time ago with link.

alage oka nurse cheppindhi ee dialysys entha misuse avvudho. free ga vasthe evadiki health care teesuko buddhi avvadu
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:34 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

endhi nenu cheppe cases thakva.. nuvvu cheppe cases ekvaa... thats mom....




the fact that you get diagnosed just when you are between jobs or changing insurance companies entha takkuva vuntundhi. nenu cheppe cases ekkuva. i posted examples of what people are doing in past threads.

Hep C vunna ammayi silent ga join ayyi treatment ki 60-70K kharchu ayyaka drop aipoindhi. subsidies poyaka tanu kattindhi 160 per month during that time. Oka 2K kattindhi. company vadiki gallo dabbulu vastaya aa remaining 68K ki. nee naa naa lanti vallu nethina pedathadu
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:32 am:       


Jai_ycp:

its simple only but many people people don't have self respect. they think its their birth right to use other people money for their benefits :-).




nuvvu cheppina drunkard poor fellow ayithe enduku insurance teesukodu? vadiki govt subsidy istadi kada
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:32 am:       


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The Bad
1) allow kids to stay on parents insurance till 26. idhemi rule raa babu. why should govtmandate it. if they can drive at 16, marry and vote at 18, why insurance has to cover. why cant their parents buy them insurance if needed.




18 ki drive sesthaaru kaani still in college

Parents ki college fees tho paatu insurance shall not be an expense to worry

This is good one I feel. Once they start working anyway tehyw ill get isnurnce form their Employer. Also nijaaniki youngsters ki pedha loss or expense to insurance company vundadhuu
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:31 am:       


Stellar:

adi january month lo ayithene vaadiki use avutundi.



Ippudu surcharge 30% tho join avvochu. dont know if its one time or recurring. recurring ayithe konchemu best.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:31 am:       


Jai_ycp:

ts simple only but many people people don't have self respect. they think its their birth right to use other people money for their benefits :-).
same as in india. rupayi tax kattanodu kooda vachi ee prathuvamu maaku enduku cheyyadhu antaru.

Any help that does not improve responsibility will only lead to entitlement mindset.




self respect endhi vunkl.. im talking about insurance premiums. why government is not removing the cap on premiums.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:30 am:       


Jai_ycp:

those cases are evry limited. aina lapse leni coverage vunnadhi ani prove chesukunte they have to cover ani pedithe best kadha. i was taklking about cases of a drunkard who never got insurance. suddenly he gets liver disease and kidneys goes bust.

now he needs liver transpaknt and dialsys for kidneys. why the heck should i pay for this drunkard who never paid into the insurance system and now ready to use it at the cost of my money.




endhi nenu cheppe cases thakva.. nuvvu cheppe cases ekvaa... thats mom....
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:30 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

if it were that simple dont you think this would have been done until now?




its simple only but many people people don't have self respect. they think its their birth right to use other people money for their benefits :-).
same as in india. rupayi tax kattanodu kooda vachi ee prathuvamu maaku enduku cheyyadhu antaru.

Any help that does not improve responsibility will only lead to entitlement mindset.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:29 am:       


Gotcha:

adi ee telvatlaedu citizens ayaka no work credits ayite avutara leda ani.




daniki work credits tho paniledu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:28 am:       

If you have ever worked on health care field, you will understand the complexity of the issue. One of the main reasons, health care is costly - is Administrative costs of running a hospital. The billing aspect of the organization is most heavily staffed, that is primarily to keep track of billing of patients, depending on the number of clauses of insurance providers.

In the US, they are trying to provide help to citizens by providing insurance, while insurance management is the biggest expenditure in hospitals :-) the irony
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:28 am:       


Jai_ycp:

those cases are evry limited. aina lapse leni coverage vunnadhi ani prove chesukunte they have to cover ani pedithe best kadha. i was taklking about cases of a drunkard who never got insurance. suddenly he gets liver disease and kidneys goes bust.

now he needs liver transpaknt and dialsys for kidneys. why the heck should i pay for this drunkard who never paid into the insurance system and now ready to use it at the cost of my money




adi january month lo ayithene vaadiki use avutundi.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:28 am:       


Jai_ycp:

citizens ayyaka eligible avvutharu emo


adi ee telvatlaedu citizens ayaka no work credits ayite avutara leda ani.
...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:27 am:       

Obamcare lo penalty Govt ki kattali.

Ikkada penatli insurance company ki kattali anta. Typical Republicans helping rich people or orgs
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:26 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

now you move your job, and now you are going to have a new provider, then you will become a pre-existing condition candidate and your claims will be rejected. the same thing happens, even if its the same provider. sometimes, even changes by the plans made by company will affect your coverage when it comes to pre-existing conditions.



those cases are evry limited. aina lapse leni coverage vunnadhi ani prove chesukunte they have to cover ani pedithe best kadha. i was taklking about cases of a drunkard who never got insurance. suddenly he gets liver disease and kidneys goes bust.

now he needs liver transpaknt and dialsys for kidneys. why the heck should i pay for this drunkard who never paid into the insurance system and now ready to use it at the cost of my money.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:22 am:       


Jai_ycp:

ala ayithe premium meedha limit teeseyandi. federal govt iche regular subsidy tho patu state govts can have their high risk pool where people can share the costs.

mandating is bad anedhi naa opinion. its gives an excuse for insurance companies to raise premiums.




:D there is lies the complexity of the problem. if it were that simple dont you think this would have been done until now?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:22 am:       


Gotcha:

parents okavela us migrate avute valu medicaid claim chesukovacha?



income lekapothe chesukovachu anukunta. however when you sponsor them, you have to show income to provide for them. citizens ayyaka eligible avvutharu emo.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:21 am:       


Jai_ycp:

already diseases vundi payments takkuva pay chestha join avvutha ante its a negative loss for company kadha. vadu emi chestadu aa cost existing customers meedha vesthadu. we dotn if the guy joining never had insurance till then or the reason he was changing.




lets say you were paying for insurance for 10 years, and then you get health issues. your insurance company will cover your benefits, now you move your job, and now you are going to have a new provider, then you will become a pre-existing condition candidate and your claims will be rejected. the same thing happens, even if its the same provider. sometimes, even changes by the plans made by company will affect your coverage when it comes to pre-existing conditions.

there is a reason your provider "mandates", "enrollment" every year.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:21 am:       


Ntr_rocks:

Naa varaku, Insurance mandatory rule tesesi, lekapote fine eyakapothe chaalu..



teesesaru. paiga retroactive for 2016 too. bill april 18th mundu pass ayithe penalty kattakaraledhu tax filers ee year
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:20 am:       

christians medi share ani provate insurance vundhi. they dont deny anyone and ofcourse members share the bills. its perfect. istamu vunnodu join avvuthadu. anthe kaani govt mandate cheyyatamu tappu. its like govt mandating that everybody should have a house. dabbulu oleva memu isthamu kattuko ani.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:18 am:       


Manthri:

nenu, na lokam, na swardam, na matti, na masanam. Don't care about others or even your own kids after 16



Nuvvoka ranti devuduvi. 300 sq ft home lo vunta onti poota tinta nee asthi antha desa seva kosamu vadutunnavu.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:17 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

is one of the biggest cons run by insurance companies.



ala ayithe premium meedha limit teeseyandi. federal govt iche regular subsidy tho patu state govts can have their high risk pool where people can share the costs.

mandating is bad anedhi naa opinion. its gives an excuse for insurance companies to raise premiums.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:17 am:       

Aa nalla daridrudu pettina pocket hole lo emanna taguddi antara...leka eee stone aithe enti antara..

Naa varaku, Insurance mandatory rule tesesi, lekapote fine eyakapothe chaalu..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:16 am:       


Conservative/Republican mindset 1st post lo clear ka kanipstadi.

nenu, na lokam, na swardam, na matti, na masanam. Don't care about others or even your own kids after 16
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:16 am:       

parents okavela us migrate avute valu medicaid claim chesukovacha?
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:14 am:       


Bharat:

What is the use of insurance if it is useless when needed?



dhaniki pre-existing sambandhamu emiti? nuvvu car insurance teesukunnaka accident ayyithe fix chetsadu. alage you have insurance and you get sick. then you get paid. already diseases vundi payments takkuva pay chestha join avvutha ante its a negative loss for company kadha. vadu emi chestadu aa cost existing customers meedha vesthadu. we dotn if the guy joining never had insurance till then or the reason he was changing.

aina extreme cases lo deny chestaru to keep the group from increasing sales.

i am ok with govt providing tax breaks for them to buy coverage from willing companies but mandate is not required.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:10 am:       


Jai_ycp:

pre-existing conditions: cant deny coverage and no limites. how can government mandate insurance companies to do it. ila chesthe either insurance company has to increase rates or government provides subsidies to insurance comoanies. edhi aina bokka ee kadha. continous coverage lekapothe 30% flat surcharge anta. one time or recurring ee clear ga ledhu. one time aithe waste




this should be in the Good. Pre-Existing condition clause is one of the biggest cons run by insurance companies.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:10 am:       


Jai_ycp:

coverage for pre-existing




This is the most important feature. What is the use of insurance if it is useless when needed?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:09 am:       


Emc2:

kids ni allow chesthunnaru upto 26, it is upto you if you want to keep them or not




why would any one take them out ? more often than not, it will cost more to get an individual insurance rather than stay in the family policy.

unless the family policy gets expensive because of particular need of the kids. in that case, insurance will be a pain anyway.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:09 am:       


Emc2:

over all i am good with it, but as long as rates thaggithe bavuntadi,




enduku taggutayi? ee rules lo ins companies ki emi benefit kanapadatled
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:08 am:       


Emc2:

pre existing conditions ki if they make it as a law they cannot deny it , which is good

over all i am good with it, but as long as rates thaggithe bavuntadi,




deny cheyakunda limits teesesaka premiums enduku impact avvavu. where would the money coem from. hisgh risk pools pettukovachu antunnaru but ther eis upper limit of 5 times the young guy pays.

already private insurance konukune vallaki subsidies istunnuru (single < 75,000 joint 150,000) plus avi datina vallakikuda takkuva level.

HSA accounts contributions pencharu

i dont see the need for mandate on upper limit and coverage for pre-existing
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:05 am:       


Jai_ycp:




pre existing conditions ki if they make it as a law they cannot deny it , which is good

over all i am good with it, but as long as rates thaggithe bavuntadi,

kids ni allow chesthunnaru upto 26, it is upto you if you want to keep them or not
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:02 am:       


Stellar:

Nuvvu nee kids ki 16 raagane teeseyyi



nenu teestha vere vadiki pettukunte na premiums impact avvuthayi kadha. paiag ippudu individual mandate ledhu. higher premiums ledhu for young ones to subsidize old people. inka enduku ee tirakasu
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:00 am:       


Jai_ycp:

allow kids to stay on parents insurance till 26. idhemi rule raa babu. why should govtmandate it. if they can drive at 16, marry and vote at 18, why insurance has to cover. why cant their parents buy them insurance if need




Nuvvu nee kids ki 16 raagane teeseyyi
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 10:00 am:       

end of the day health care premiums taggakapoina parvaledhu perigindho trump ga neeku itthade. subsides ela fund chestaro cheppataledhu.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:58 am:       

The good
6) cut funding to planned parenthood.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:58 am:       

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/r epublican-obamacare-replacement.html
 

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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 09:52 am:       

The Good
1) repeal individual and Employer Mandate - govt should never mandate people to buy health insurances in the first place. relief for small business who are burdened by obama care costs
2) Repeals the ACA's taxes
3) Greatly expands contributions to health savings accounts, which allow people with high-deductible insurance to cover expenses that their plans don't pay for.
4)Eliminates cost-sharing subsidies in Obama's Affordable Care Act
5)Allows insurers to charge their oldest customers up to 5 times what they charge young adults. The ACA limits that to 3 times.

The Ugly
1)Medicaid expansion - media spin ki bayapadi 2020 varaku touch cheyyataledhu. taravtha low level financing for new enrollees. kakapothe open end financing teeesi limited amount istahru anta - Not completely satisfactory. obama care mooolana states can inculude people who are upto 138 percent income level of poverty. dhenni tagginchalsindhi
2)pre-existing conditions: cant deny coverage and no limites. how can government mandate insurance companies to do it. ila chesthe either insurance company has to increase rates or government provides subsidies to insurance comoanies. edhi aina bokka ee kadha. continous coverage lekapothe 30% flat surcharge anta. one time or recurring ee clear ga ledhu. one time aithe waste
3) susbsidy for buying insurance - federal govt kemi pani raa babu. i am ok if you give tax exemption but if you spend federal tax money forsusbsidies, its a bust

The Bad
1) allow kids to stay on parents insurance till 26. idhemi rule raa babu. why should govtmandate it. if they can drive at 16, marry and vote at 18, why insurance has to cover. why cant their parents buy them insurance if needed.
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