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Jai_ycp
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 11:26 am:       


Rocketk2:

and you are using breitbart link to establish that



anudke anna. adhedo universal truth annattu anukokandi. it is as partisan as breitbart. idhigo WAP nunchi copy and paste

“I don’t, obviously, put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees, so that’s a huge concern of ours,” Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said at a security industry conference in September, using another name for the Islamic State

FBI Director James Comey added in congressional testimony last month that “a number of people who were of serious concern” slipped through the screening of Iraq War refugees, including two arrested on terrorism-related charges. “There’s no doubt that was the product of a less than excellent vetting,” he said.

Although Comey said the process has since “improved dramatically,” Syrian refugees will be even harder to check because, unlike in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have not been on the ground collecting information on the local population. “If we don’t know much about somebody, there won’t be anything in our data,” he said. “I can’t sit here and offer anybody an absolute assurance that there’s no risk associated with this.”

https://homeland.house.gov/press/nations-top-security-offici als-concerns-on-refugee-vetting/
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 11:22 am:       


Rocketk2:

I'm also asked to look and determine if the executive order is rationally based.




see my post on congress law. asalu rational or irrational ani chudalsina subject kadhu. take an example of somebody getting F1 visa denied or stopped at POE. somebody ask to look for rational and judge can grant them entry. Judges will run immigration now.


Jai_ycp:

the president �may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens and any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants� whenever he thinks it �would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.



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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 11:18 am:       


Jai_ycp:

Please dont use politifact. it is not an neutral site. it has no more value than our db discussions. i can give enough examples of its bias.


and you are using breitbart link to establish that :-)
He listed the total exchange. You can read it and come to conclusion. It is laughable if you think refugee vetting to US is not upto mark!! His EO extended beyond refugee .. also using this rationale you have to shutdown eveything. FBI doesn't not say anything is 100% covered

Jai_ycp:

monna judge agreed with washington state that temp travel ban causes undue hardship and sanctioned TRO. what is the basis for it?


idhi go malli.. here is the judge statement . It is a TRo to decide rational. He is well within.his rights .. you have an argument if he banned without due process(like how trump created the EO)
"I'm also asked to look and determine if the executive order is rationally based. And rationally based, to some extent, means I have to find it grounded in fact instead of fiction."

Moviebuff001:

Roju lakkotam pekkotam valla no use.


we are at peace . Kani trump Garu rojukoka Banda mana nethinesthunaru.. he is attacking judicial system.. ilantivi kuda chusi chudanattu pommante ela

Check today's attack on McCain. Yemen raid meedha McCain press tho matladam tappanta.. mana whole campaign Benghazi mata meedha nadichindhi ani marchipoyadu.. appudu Hillary niddara poyindhani base lekunda ekkado padithe akkada anochu... Mari ippudu enti.. evaru matlada kudadha !!
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 10:28 am:       


Rocketk2:

this what fake news does. Oka distorted view konni rojulu taruvatha fact avuthundhi




Please dont use politifact. it is not an neutral site. it has no more value than our db discussions. i can give enough examples of its bias.
Some facts on politifact
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/07/12/epic-humi liation-politifact-makes-13-errors-in-a-single-clinton-cash- fact-check/





Rocketk2:

Even if that is true, Mr. Trump did not use that as basis of his EO. So that is not a supporting argument.



idemi conclusion. he said the ban is for to relook and strenfthen vetting process. its temporary ban for all except refugees from syria.

Rocketk2:

t does matter sir, aren't we looking for transparency if this is really a law enforcement suggestion of president Trump and his advisor Brannon's personal agenda. Hence trying to bypass due process going to EO.




why does it matter to citizens? congress gave broad powers to president to deal with foreign countries and nationals. see below.

“The exclusion of aliens is a fundamental act of sovereignty … inherent in the executive power,” the Supreme Court said in 1950. And lest there be doubt, Congress adopted a provision in 1952 saying the president “may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens and any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants” whenever he thinks it “would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.”

repu chaina tho trade deal cut chesthe can you sue in court saying it is causing hardship. constituion and equal protections does not apply to alients entering usa. they will have mor erights once they land on here.

take an example. There was some source that identifies a possible resource as security threat. he was gettign into USA. can president stop him? what if that huy he was being discriminated? should president submit evidence and get approval.

Its judicial overreach and tyranny.

antha enduku. during obama administration, Mississippi,claimed DACA will cause undue hardships on it. SC denied saying the hardships are speculative.

monna judge agreed with washington state that temp travel ban causes undue hardship and sanctioned TRO. what is the basis for it?
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 10:19 am:       

You have to make peace with the fact that he is the president for the next 4 years.
President has plenty of support staff and some of his policies are merely what he promised in the campaign. Roju lakkotam pekkotam valla no use.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 10:00 am:       


Jai_ycp:

under obama admin only, FBI director confirmed that they cannot vet refugees completely. you will find the links in google.


this what fake news does. Oka distorted view konni rojulu taruvatha fact avuthundhi
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/aug/12/car los-beruff/fbi-admitted-it-cannot-properly-vet-middle-easter n/
Even if that is true, Mr. Trump did not use that as basis of his EO. So that is not a supporting argument.

Jai_ycp:

It could eb FBI ort any other 17 national security agencies. why does it matter?


it does matter sir, aren't we looking for transparency if this is really a law enforcement suggestion of president Trump and his advisor Brannon's personal agenda. Hence trying to bypass due process going to EO.
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 09:44 am:       


Rocketk2:

What is the threat that prompted the advise? Why is this not a public information??



its about resetting the vetting process. under obama admin only, FBI director confirmed that they cannot vet refugees completely. you will find the links in google. so when he came to office, he wanted to look at vetting process and tighten them. he spoke about that during campaign too.

Do you need to stop the traffic and do this or do it in parallel is a decision he can make.

It could eb FBI ort any other 17 national security agencies. why does it matter?
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 09:07 am:       


Moviebuff001:

What is the point here?



"The law enforcement people said to me, 'Oh, you can't give a notice,'

Who is the law enforcement people? At what capacity is the recommendation made(official or unofficial) ? What is the threat that prompted the advise? Why is this not a public information??

The point is to find reason behind EO. What is the data that prompted this advise? How did he decide 'bad dudes are going to pour in'
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 08:48 am:       

Isn't he merely stating a fact there?
Advisors have to do their job. Final decision is his own. What is the point here?
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 08:44 am:       


Humpty_dumpty:

there must be meeting minutes right ?




next tweet lo.. minutes rasinonni kooda eki parestad.. nenu em cheppanu.. nuvvu em rasav.. antoo

kiki..

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 08:39 am:       

there must be meeting minutes right ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2017 - 08:30 am:       

How to read below?? Is he in charge of his decisions or is someone else pulling strings. Is he having second thouhghts but blindly doubling down.
We know intelligence community has not given any impending threat. FBI did not .. then who is the 'law enforcement people' he is talking about .. or is this a habitual lie!! How is he going to get past judicial with this!!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/donald-trump-travel-b an-delay/index.html

Trump: I wanted month delay before travel ban, was told no

"The law enforcement people said to me, 'Oh, you can't give a notice,' " Trump said at a conference for the Major Cities Chiefs Association. "I suggested a month. And I said, 'What about a week?' They said you can't do that because then people are gonna pour in before the toughness."

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