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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 08:44 am:       


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My kids pass port expires in Oct 2017 and PIO in 2027. What needs to be done once we get the new pass port!


I was in same situation. I applied to OCI inliew of PIO with new passport as I had enough time before our next trip to India.
 

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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 08:34 am:       


Sanju:

ippudu free ga apply chesina daaniki repu reissue with new passport ki cost difference $25 ey kada...time vuntey apply chesukovachu ga?




apply cheyatam problem kaadu. aadu iche reqd docs chusthe chiraku dobbutandi. okasari PIO vunnodiki malli notary,aa dcouments antha enduku?. evadu pedatado ee rules talamasinollu
 

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Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2016 - 03:01 am:       

My kids pass port expires in Oct 2017 and PIO in 2027. What needs to be done once we get the new pass port!
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 06:12 pm:       

Eventually non-machine readable Cards ni phaseout seyyocchu
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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 04:32 pm:       


Sanju:

ippudu free ga apply chesina daaniki repu reissue with new passport ki cost difference $25 ey kada...time vuntey apply chesukovachu ga?




ee point baagundi but still I want to wait and see.. I know eventually they would remove the PIOs off the street..


Sanju:

mana embassy valla sangati thelisi nuvvu risk theesukotam kaka inko nalugurini irikisthaava?



Tension padaku thammi.. andaru naalontollundar le... :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 04:26 pm:       

N-400 aadi mokaana kottaaka oka 3 months lo US citizenship ostundi ani cheppaaru.

For example..
Jan - Submit N-400
Apr - US Citizenship
??? - US Passport

Passport eppatikalla ostundi? Ochaaka... India ellaalante process enti? aa OCI/PIO edo ravataniki time padutundi antunaaru.. visit visa teeskovachaa? Tajmahal chustaa ani cheppi.. maa Narayanguda Tajmahal votel lo tomato bath tini ostaa.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:52 pm:       


Jeffa:


mana embassy valla sangati thelisi nuvvu risk theesukotam kaka inko nalugurini irikisthaava?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:37 pm:       


Jeffa:

If I go for OCI in lieu with my PIOs, my kids US passports gets expired sometime in the mean while, at that point, I need to re-apply for OCI if I move to OCI now itself. In other words, I may end up in paying OCI application fee at that time anyways with OCI.


ippudu free ga apply chesina daaniki repu reissue with new passport ki cost difference $25 ey kada...time vuntey apply chesukovachu ga?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:24 pm:       


Jeffa:

@Raju: I did travel with my kid's expired(and renewed) US passports and with PIO card(which got the expired old US passport number). No issues.




gaat it..

thanks..

vallaki summer lo vindia pilanning sesthunte..Passport expired ani ardham ayyindi..so applied yesterday..ee PIO angle ..Passport vachina taruvatha alochiddamani ani anukonna..

as usual DB rocks !!!

already naa quechens ki answers ready gaa unnai :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:21 pm:       


Rajusk:

@Jeffa
I fall into Awala bucket...ninnane maa vodu passport apply sesan..kothavi Feb lo vasthai..so I am assuming I can keep new passport and variginal PIO card

meeru atla travel sesthe seppandi..so that I don't have to think about it




@Raju: I did travel with my kid's expired(and renewed) US passports and with PIO card(which got the expired old US passport number). No issues.
I always carry my old passports (regardless of the reason) or its copies in my check in(at least first two pages, last one page copy) when I travel. You typically dont need to show old passports unless and otherwise they ask for it.
In my last India travel, no one has asked for the previous passport at any port of entries).
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:16 pm:       


Sanju:

neetho full OCI application fees kattisthaadu choostha vundu...appudu emi chesthav embassy vadni?




LoL.. root bottom, I am prepared to pay if it comes(Government of India needs to pass an ordinance to get PIOs invalid, in the government gazette).
Second point: If I go for OCI in lieu with my PIOs, my kids US passports gets expired sometime in the mean while, at that point, I need to re-apply for OCI if I move to OCI now itself. In other words, I may end up in paying OCI application fee at that time anyways with OCI. So, best bet would be to hang on with PIO as much as we can. :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:09 pm:       

maa pillal vi Sep 15th apply chesthey ivvala update ayyindi ready for shipment ani
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:07 pm:       


Jeffa:

all PIOs are considered as OCI with lifetime validity. And PIO has no rule to get reapplied when there is a change in the underlying Passport. So, I believe keeping PIO is the best bet at this moment.



Andhrawala:

My kids passports have expired. New passports apply seyyaali. Kothavi vachetappatiki it will be around January 20th.




@Jeffa
I fall into Awala bucket...ninnane maa vodu passport apply sesan..kothavi Feb lo vasthai..so I am assuming I can keep new passport and variginal PIO card

meeru atla travel sesthe seppandi..so that I don't have to think about it
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:02 pm:       


Leader:




vaadu update chesinattu ledu jananni tondara pedataniki

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation /last-date-extended-for-six-months-for-conversion-of-pio-car ds/articleshow/56206111.cms
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 03:01 pm:       


Jeffa:


neetho full OCI application fees kattisthaadu choostha vundu...appudu emi chesthav embassy vadni?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 02:54 pm:       


Andhrawala:

http://m.hindustantimes.com/what-now/card-details/?uuid=3158 b992-9a1e-4bac-a227-0e0589d9e7e2

Date now extended to June 2017




AW mama I just went to this site and it says last date is 12/31/2016 https://www.in.ckgs.us
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 05:32 pm:       

Aw sir
Thanks
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 05:17 pm:       

Thanks Awala annai. Ippatiki idhi 7th deadline extension anukunta. Ippudu oka 10-15 days mundhu chesevaadu...ee saari thriller 4 days mundhu.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 04:50 pm:       


Jeffa:

Bunch of idiots at CKGS (like any other Consulate services agency).


+1
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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 04:39 pm:       

ma vaadiki OCI meeda last time validity stamp vundi, ayina sare malli PIO ki convert chestunna.. avasaramo ledo teliyadu kaani, monne $67 karchu pettanu..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 04:14 pm:       


Onlymovies:




Thanks Brother
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 03:57 pm:       


Andhrawala:

Date now extended to June 2017




every six months ala extend chesthu potaru anukunta :D
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 03:19 pm:       

nenu ee august lo PIO card tho travel chesi vachanu, no questions asked
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 03:14 pm:       

So can we travel to India in Feb with valid PIO card ?

evaraina confirm chestara with the details in the website.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 02:37 pm:       


Stellar:

Considering the concerns and issues related to this conversion from PIO card to OCI card, it has been decided that PIO cards already issued continue to be valid documents. Applying for OCI cards in lieu of PIO cards at the website indicated above will be optional for the applicant until further instructions. All concerned are hereby informed that there is no deadline for conversion from PIO card to OCI cards. However, we urge all PIO card holders to apply for change to OCI cards for uniformity sake. However, when passports are changed / renewed, applicants may apply for miscellaneous services to update their passport details in the OCI cards.

4. As conveyed earlier, endorsements stating that existing PIO cards are valid for life would be made at the first immigration point with which the card holder comes into contact, be it an Indian Mission, an FRRO or an immigration check-point. These endorsements/stamps would, however, not be mandatory.




This is what exactly I am buying into ... I am taking a chance if MEA of GOI is going to force me to convert PIO to OCI by paying fee(after Dec 31st of 2016).
As per the existing Government gazette, all PIOs are considered as OCI with lifetime validity. And PIO has no rule to get reapplied when there is a change in the underlying Passport. So, I believe keeping PIO is the best bet at this moment.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 02:35 pm:       

http://m.hindustantimes.com/what-now/card-details/?uuid=3158 b992-9a1e-4bac-a227-0e0589d9e7e2

Date now extended to June 2017
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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 02:15 pm:       

Considering the concerns and issues related to this conversion from PIO card to OCI card, it has been decided that PIO cards already issued continue to be valid documents. Applying for OCI cards in lieu of PIO cards at the website indicated above will be optional for the applicant until further instructions. All concerned are hereby informed that there is no deadline for conversion from PIO card to OCI cards. However, we urge all PIO card holders to apply for change to OCI cards for uniformity sake. However, when passports are changed / renewed, applicants may apply for miscellaneous services to update their passport details in the OCI cards.

4. As conveyed earlier, endorsements stating that existing PIO cards are valid for life would be made at the first immigration point with which the card holder comes into contact, be it an Indian Mission, an FRRO or an immigration check-point. These endorsements/stamps would, however, not be mandatory.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 01:26 pm:       


Ustad:

Important Notice for PIO card holders: Applicants who have a PIO Card must apply for an OCI card before the last date of 31st December, 2016.



Bunch of idiots at CKGS (like any other Consulate services agency).
The word MUST in the above statement is misleading.
If you want to apply for OCI in lieu with PIO, you must apply before Dec 31st. If you dont want to apply for it, nothing was mentioned what would happen :-) which is not clear for them or for MEA of GOI.
I am not gonna apply for OCI as far as I can since OCI triggers a reapply for each of the underlying passport update.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 - 01:00 pm:       

Thanks bros
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 11:47 pm:       


Andhrawala:

Not sure whether I can apply PIO to OCI conversion with old passports and finally send the new passports



"Passport should be valid for 8 months from the date of application"
I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and besides, the pig likes it - George Bernard Shaw
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 11:26 pm:       

At this time, CKGS does not have any information on rules post 31st December, 2016.

My kids passports have expired. New passports apply seyyaali. Kothavi vachetappatiki it will be around January 20th.

Not sure whether I can apply PIO to OCI conversion with old passports and finally send the new passports
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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 09:29 pm:       

My kids pass port expires in Oct 2017 and PIO in 2027. Is there any thing to be done once we get a new pass port
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 08:13 pm:       

Important Notice for PIO card holders: Applicants who have a PIO Card must apply for an OCI card before the last date of 31st December, 2016.

This is the popup message on ckgs page. I submitted my kid's pio -> OCI application last week.
I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty and besides, the pig likes it - George Bernard Shaw
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 05:47 pm:       

We are traveling to India in Feb first week , is it ok to travel with PIO or need to have Indian Visa?
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 02:57 pm:       

Optional
 

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 02:34 pm:       

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Posted on Monday, December 26, 2016 - 02:33 pm:       

Kid PIO valid up to OCT 2027.

Pass port valid up to OCT 2017.

PIO to OCI conversion .. it it mandatory or optional??

recent travelers please advice..

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