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Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12877 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
statelessness is a constant where the derivative over time is always zero. any other asymptotic function that approximates to zero is subpar.
strength of a philosophy cannot be guaged through its practitioners. It has to be evaluated on its own merits. needs patience and time and depth. Einstein's work should not be rated through some third rate astrophysicist somewhere. | ||
Ishan Side Hero Username: Ishan Post Number: 9860 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 98.198.137.172 Rating: |
Why is it so difficult to understand? why 'great heritage' and 'detestable society' are mutually exclusive? Cant they coexist? Perhaps the standards set by our ancestors are too high and difficult to be met by the current generation? May be our society is following the western principles of logic and individualism, instead of philosophy and 'collective morality'? The so called evils of society have nothing to do with our past glory. When it comes to day to day survival, cultural heritage would be the last thing people consider. Its not logical inconsistency but a sharp contrast time can bring to a society. Society can never be perfect, period. The net total of evil and good in any society will always be the same, regardless of the scientific and technological advancement. Don't text and drive ! | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17575 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.134.76.1 Rating: N/A |
You mean with respect to time ? Hmm, I am thinking Nisarga is the natural state at T0 - the initial state of one's consciousness whenever it starts ..that everyone starts there and adds baggage to it .If you can initialize it and disconnect the puts and takes , it will remain unchanging ...no worries, my take is all conjecture anyway  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12876 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
a natural state is prone to change. | ||
Jp_rocks Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 17066 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 73.36.15.73 Rating: N/A |
it is definitely an assumption...who knows may be that super smart, advanced form of life has an interest in recording everything..but to me that is very unlikely based on what we know from science.. good thought....may be it was originally defined as evolution - ppl like kamal/cinejeevi need to confirm | ||
Masularex Side Hero Username: Masularex Post Number: 6253 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 106.220.166.49 Rating: N/A |
ramayan serial lo vaali last musings laaga enni rojulu saagadestaaru ? conclusion cheppandi... devudunnada leda ? @Nisarga I always liked your posts, sootigaa suttilekunda clarity tho views express cheyagalige vaaarilo meerokaru... I hope you stay here... regarding God, my own opinion echoes with yours... this universe, with you in it, me in it, with every other junk in it, doesn't need a creator/operator role to understand its existence. rest of the things, way above my head. cheerio ! | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17572 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.134.98.68 Rating: N/A |
Kharma kadu Karma ( as in action )- meaning maripotundi  Karma siddhanta is a pretty robust theory/ hypothesis - whatever you chose to term it ..irrespective of whether we believe it or not ! The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 820 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.115.245 Rating: N/A |
what is Kharma really!! ppl talk about it a lot about it here!! how does it make sense if the reincarnated life does not know about it's previous life!! how can one say it is the same life in both incarnations... if this is one of the tenets of Kharma.. it sound pure BS to me. | ||
Pols Junior Artist Username: Pols Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 199.90.35.12 Rating: N/A |
//But in general I think its a insult to thyself when you attribute your success to a non existent form.// Meghan Annay, Vhn You Know Try 2 Understand How Universe Works and How It Conspires then You will Never Attribute Your Success 2 Yourself ! | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17559 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.134.242.17 Rating: N/A |
Explain the difference please.. I was thinking Nisarga/pure natural state is the same as what you are terming stateless
You know I have wondered if what we called karma is all simply information coded on our DNA thru the ages ...what brought that on was similarity between the edict that you have to take so many janmas before reaching human birth ( per prabhupada) and the number of species in the evolution cycle from microbes to men  don't even remember the specific number now but was an interesting idea The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19072 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.207.204.6 Rating: |
I disagree with this approach. There has never been a situation where answering one question did not lead to more difficult questions to answer. If we have figured out the certainty of coin toss, I am sure we will end up with a more complicated problem that can keep entertaining us. Entertainment is subjective, as you can see, for all the comforts we as beings aspired, we created more venues for entertainment than earlier times. To think answering curiosity somehow makes us unhappy in the long run is counter intuitive. We answer because we are curious, its not the questions that make us curious. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19071 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.207.204.6 Rating: N/A |
isnt this an assumption again? May be the crazy entity that created "life" does this just for giggles. | ||
Jp_rocks Hero Username: Jp_rocks Post Number: 17061 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 73.36.15.73 Rating: |
I think God is a convenient creation by people. It is clear that life on this planet evolved from microbes. The fact that we share 50% of DNA with bananas, ~ 60% with fruit flies & 98% with gorillas should be enough evidence to suggest that life "evolved" on this planet. The energy generating 'mitochondria' in all of our human cells evolved/is borrowed from bacteria and still contains bacteria DNA that is distinctly different from mammalian DNA. EVEN if there's someone who really created the first life on this planet - he could simply be a more advanced form of life. I'd bet that such an intelligent form of life has no business counting/recounting our sins and karma. The notion that there's a heaven and hell for human beings is ridiculous because it assumes that our species was magically implanted by a super power. Anyway, we (Craig Venter) have now created artificial life using synthetic DNA - totally made up by Craig's team. Is he a God or a more informed human being? | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31959 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 203.200.27.189 Rating: |
there is the point. why therapist came here will answer all the questions. GOD is unpaid , always available and top therapist. we cannot control everything. thats what i am saying. if we can also its not worth living with such and intelligence and execution . if we achieve that perfection we will be top performing machine of the world. The random i am taking about is not Random actually . anything beyond our understanding we call random. we play head and tail game. we will have fun . we lose sometimes. its a random result and we enjoy and suffer the result . think we perfected the game . our mind have capacity to analyse the velocity the coin is tossed . the hight it went . the air pressure the coin is facing etc. and we win 100%. we can exactly know the coin is tossing head or tail. now the random became the absolute . we will enjoy this knowledge for 10 times . but forever the fun of the game is gone. what next... is it worth to attain that knowledge.. is it a wise think for a man to spend that much time on calculating everything. its not. so cut short our intelligence and we place FAITH in the Place of RATIONAL. we pray the GOD to win. if we will we jump with joy and tell Thank GOD. if not we Say Bad Luck. This emotion is better for Us. Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 41845 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 116.51.10.61 Rating: N/A |
 Team India : NaMo - Parrikar - Gadkari - Prabhu - Piyush - Smriti - Uma Bharti - Sushma | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12874 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
Ramana PBUH was not in a natural state. he was stateless. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17558 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 64.134.98.68 Rating: N/A |
Lots of people peddle snake oil and many more fall for it - this is definitely the downside of faith ... The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2488 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
https://www.facebook.com/noconversion/videos/180986974262654 4/ | ||
Discoveringself Junior Artist Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 495 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.1.105 Rating: N/A |
Raja, nuvvu intellectual world lo deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep gaa vellipoyinattu unnaav...... konchem context lo petti opinion cheppu...........that scenario was in the context of...........communists and naxalites comment by M_S.......konchem indirect gaa explain chesina scenario...... in the context of partner cheating physically or kinda hypocritically cheating mentally........lets not even say cheating.....just that diff b/n thoughts and actions ani....... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17557 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.140.241.100 Rating: N/A |
You and I have had that discussion before too - don't think it needs to be rehashed here I came to the hypothesis that it is genetic because my own family does not fit any of the templates of birth, practices, rituals, discipline or diet - but there is a running predisposition on my matrilineal side- a very limited sample size of nature prevailing over nurture The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2486 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 161.162.84.84 Rating: N/A |
There is a lot of difference... At the end they both feel differently but have the same feeling in a varying dimensions....... Lets expand this what if a guy sleeps with multiple man and multiple woman and have the same experience very time ... Is it possible... I know a hell lot of people that thinks its possible.. I came across a man and woman who get the same feeling by not having sex / fantasizing. They are the people who invent better things than sex , they use their new acquired knowledge to have the same experience thousand fold. | ||
Zulu Megastar Username: Zulu Post Number: 28641 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 199.168.243.192 Rating: N/A |
chala WRONG thought process. your asking people to take blame for something they didnt do..Its just our gigantic ego that thinks that you we can control the outcome of an accident...many people who lost their kids/loved ones in an accident take blame upon themselves and suffer. The first thing any therapist would tell 'its not your fault'..and let it go | ||
Discoveringself Junior Artist Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 491 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.1.105 Rating: N/A |
in the scenario below.....let just say, may be guy is onto another guy....if not woman.........or any gender onto another gender......... otherwise bleeding liberal hearts might see discrimination and racism and whatever hatred filled words they can find......mostly missing the discussion at hand........ | ||
Discoveringself Junior Artist Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 490 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.1.105 Rating: N/A |
if you understand what that "self" stands for........u would probably and "aptly" not suggest any changes..... | ||
Discoveringself Junior Artist Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 489 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.1.105 Rating: N/A |
okallu anaaalsina avasaram yemundi.........I am not answering that question......  oka small scenario........one guy is going around with some other woman and doing whatever physically.......another guy is not physically with another woman.....but lets say fantasizing another woman....or even some heroine or whoever........... how much of a difference do you see b/n the two? | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2485 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 161.162.84.84 Rating: N/A |
May be "Discovering others" is apt for your ID.... | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19064 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 50.207.204.6 Rating: N/A |
subbu swamy tyfe lo.. communist + beard = naxalite antaara next... | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2484 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 161.162.84.84 Rating: N/A |
I hope the last two statements are meant to be Ironic. | ||
Discoveringself Junior Artist Username: Discoveringself Post Number: 488 Registered: 01-2016 Posted From: 136.2.1.105 Rating: N/A |
good going........
hmmmmmm...........I will leave it at that.....as extending it might not be very palatable to many here..........may be u can dig deeper on that thought....... "ramblings of a communist" ani thread title apt for this....... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17556 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 66.140.241.100 Rating: N/A |
I assume that's where people like Ramana Maharshi were so is it possible - yes, is it something I think I can get to or even aspire to reach - not really The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12867 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.92.170.77 Rating: N/A |
we may get to a turing machine this life time. but this natural state of the being. whatever that is, what is it really? shouldnt you be aiming at becoming stateless? | ||
Chillarodu Side Hero Username: Chillarodu Post Number: 8838 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 209.160.196.93 Rating: N/A |
yes, we are selfish and I think that's one of the reason for us to be ahead of other beings. If not us they will be taken away by some other way. It wasn't because of humans when almost 90% of the species were dead sometime back.
Yes, I believe we are destined to be Gods. ;) We are still dumb. I hope we will survive until the time when we all use common sense. | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18925 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
state of nisarga is like Turing machine.. something we aim towards | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12865 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.92.170.77 Rating: N/A |
thyanksuu. is that even fossible? | ||
Alochinchu Comedian Username: Alochinchu Post Number: 1892 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.4 Rating: N/A |
Aren't we selfish taking all the resources of earth from other living beings.. Do you think the humankind survives till then?? | ||
Chillarodu Side Hero Username: Chillarodu Post Number: 8836 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 209.160.196.93 Rating: N/A |
What's the big deal. We have billion more planets to host in future. If we stay as is then what's the point of life. | ||
Alochinchu Comedian Username: Alochinchu Post Number: 1891 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.4 Rating: N/A |
I mentioned the same to someone this weekend.. the civilization is the worst thing happened on Earth.. | ||
Alochinchu Comedian Username: Alochinchu Post Number: 1890 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 65.51.27.4 Rating: N/A |
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Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17555 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.196.37 Rating: N/A |
Nisarga- means the natural state or unadulterated nature of being..That's why I asked if it was loaded The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12863 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
I am not drunk. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17554 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Is that a loaded question ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12858 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 96.237.166.145 Rating: N/A |
inthakee unkul, nisarga meaning eti? | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17553 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Absolutely - genetics drive a lot of things on this front.. I used to hypothesize it's x- chromosome trait based on my own family history, if you recall
Where do you stand on the faith scale - what do you believe ? Please talk about that ..what others think and believe is irrelevant ...scams/ cheating in the name of faith are the oldest cons in the book
we take what makes sense to us from everything we read and experience ! Glad some of my musings were relevant to you - not a total waste of bandwidth then The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 41829 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 116.51.10.61 Rating: N/A |
Congratulations! You arrived at Advaitham! Team India : NaMo - Parrikar - Gadkari - Prabhu - Piyush - Smriti - Uma Bharti - Sushma | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31958 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 203.200.27.189 Rating: N/A |
dari thappinollakosame ee thread ani nisarga baa cheppamannadu  Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Kkd Legend Username: Kkd Post Number: 31052 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.10.109.1 Rating: N/A |
Oops sorry....dari thappi vachaa.... | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 819 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 223.227.60.117 Rating: N/A |
Will post later...how to get the thread not archived!! | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31957 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 203.200.27.189 Rating: N/A |
edo mee training. i mean it. inka depth ki evelthe humans are not as intelligent as they pose. and we cannot afford to be more intelligent. for example. ee accidents aa theesukundam. we get a JOB in blr or hyd which is 500 KM from our place. pay is good . what all we consider. good salary, good city, good education for kids etc... do we ever calculate how many KM we need to travel in lifetime and what are the possible negatives because of this. on an average we may travel 3 times to our native every year that is 3000 km. if we stay there for 30 years its around 1 lakh Km we travel. so a family travels 1 lakh km what are the chances of meeting with an accident. and because we stay away our parents and relatives also may travel for us . what are there chances ... we ignore this or our priority is less for this thought. but we approved to take that risk indirectly. if we r too intelligent to calculate all these things . r we ready to do this. is it worth to put so much thought into it. may be we will gets apps to calculate diff. Karma;s in future . lol. as soon as we get a job we feed the data into app and it will return accident karma. we cannot do all this. this is beyond our thinking limits we set. so all this is taken care by GOD ( what we call the reason ) . its easy for us to make God or Karma responsible . GOD ( the word we created , not the actual one if any ) takes care of all this for us and makes our life easy. thats why GOD IS GREAT. Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Sasibabu Legend Username: Sasibabu Post Number: 44625 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 45.20.143.145 Rating: N/A |
Yedho vundhi ... Which is above all ... Everything is an accident ante nammatam kashtam ... Intha intelligence ... Intha efficiency .. Intha order ... Everything by accident ante how andee howwww Just oka single atom ni poorthigaa decipher chesi dhaaniki moolam kanukkooleni manam edho vundhi ani assume cheyatam entha foolish po emi ledhani decide avvadam kooda anthe foolishness | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 818 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 223.227.60.117 Rating: N/A |
Ledu..but yes..its been talked about a lot..Robert sapolski talks about epigentics..but he cannot deny genetics...genetic proclivity is prerequisite for the switches he talks about | ||
Nihil Comedian Username: Nihil Post Number: 1810 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.123.66.225 Rating: N/A |
Not in a traditional sense that we see... but mahayana buddhism/advaitha prakaram kooda ledu antara as losely defined as all pervasive consciousness | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 817 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 223.227.60.117 Rating: N/A |
God ledu | ||
Nihil Comedian Username: Nihil Post Number: 1808 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.123.66.225 Rating: N/A |
Roju roju ki Nurture ke thookam ekkuva avutundi sir... epigenetics prakaram..so you have to reverse the ratio | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 816 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 223.227.60.117 Rating: N/A |
Nature vs nurture...both have determining efficacy... But some traits are strongly determined by genes... I wud go with 60:40 in favor of nature... | ||
Nihil Comedian Username: Nihil Post Number: 1807 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 124.123.66.225 Rating: N/A |
Nisarga sir Final bottomline ettandi.. katte/kotte/teche type lo God vunnada? vunte whats his shape and form...Is it consciousness ? | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 815 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 223.227.60.117 Rating: N/A |
not sure if they have proven but they seem to work...however again if it works or not depends on ones physiology,genetics etc.. | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1710 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: N/A |
I never dismissed herbs in general. I am not an expert in Ayurveda but I sure do acknowledge and have even used directly/indirectly many herbs for their medicinal properties. What the government terms as illegal is the quack selling herbs and pills without proven claims. They claim to solve many ailments from minor skin rashes to serious infections. By your logic, as long as we are not 100% sure that their claims are false and that the medicines won't help at all, we should allow them. That I disagree with and the law of the land prohibits. "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17552 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Good posts The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17551 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
And the way to do that is also baked into the so called religious practices like meditation and pranayama both have been proven to rewire the brain The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18917 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 172.73.178.253 Rating: N/A |
I will take that.. Have been doing that We are on same page | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31951 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 106.216.182.186 Rating: N/A |
No if u do it as a work to get gifts from god. yes , if u do it as a anchor to our random life. Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17550 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
You are talking to someone who took a course in Ayurveda to understand how the herbs work - your dismissal of herbs is as unscientific and irrational as the beliefs you scoff at
Agree - but are non- believers not guilty of the same ? the minute science moves into theories it is going to abstraction too and we have to take it on faith till it is proved/disproved Everyone evolves their belief systems with new inputs ...and accepts/discards ideas as needed .. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18916 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 172.73.178.253 Rating: N/A |
So if it random ( I lean towards it) other than leading my life - I don't need to do Pooja, namaz, mass | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2483 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
Though I agree with your definition of Karma, I disagree with your above statement. There is no law of nature, if there is one there wouldn't be many extinct living forms because of human karma. Being in a world surrounded by many people and being inter dependent on each other its not always right to expect that you should not be affected by their decisions or work. | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31950 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 106.216.182.186 Rating: |
final ga. we have limited knowledge and time and rationality . universe have more collectively . so we make bad choices everyday . and nature/ourself punishes us randomly. thats what is called Karma. Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31949 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 106.216.182.186 Rating: N/A |
Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Diviseema Legend Username: Diviseema Post Number: 31948 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 106.216.182.186 Rating: |
our inner self. naa view is karma is within us. we ourself punish us unknowingly. subconsciously our mistakes will haunt us. the guilt we feel , the pressure we take, the unhappiness we concede . andhuke antaru devudu ekkado ledu manalone vunnadu ani. anyone can prove this many times . but someone may question what for the people who die in accidents . who punished them. its bigger atma. universal atma. it dont see individuals . law of nature annattu. minutely if we go nothing is accident . its collective mistake. so it punishes randomly. pai pai na explain chestha . not to depth. for example , a BUS accident and people die. till something happens like that its .. Naa Money Naa Ticket Naa seat Naa Bus Naa desam. Naa party Naa Leader. when accident happens. Emi cheyyani thappuki we r punished. then its some Bus who took life. its some driver who is reckless. ( but who hired him with the money, its u and many in bus ) ee desam inthe.. etc etc.. why dont we think , i hired a wrong bus and driver and we payed for the bad choice. i am in a hurry to go from one place to other. my selection of bus and driver is less priority , so i just saw some reviews and past history and bought ticket online. actually i didn't enquire enough. i spend more time in DB the same day than i spend on TV or DB. why cannot be this not an accident but Karma. Divi is Small OT - Gold. DB Janma Danyam | ||
Abcdefghij Hero Username: Abcdefghij Post Number: 19253 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 68.42.113.64 Rating: N/A |
good thread Post by Knf: bittter annai, welcome RS prakasam varaku madi, Prakasm nunchi UA vaaraku meeedi http://www.chalanachithram.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=115&post=5144373#POST5144373 | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 814 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
It would rather be great to able to fix brain changing its circuitry/structure/physiology to make it feel better and get more control than making it to have blind faith. It would be more sustainable or reproducible way. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 813 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
OK.I think Meghan gave good perspective too on this in his last post . your seems a scientific faith . everyone believers or non-believers, i think, try to understand things using reason. without reasoning there is no understanding i feel. However,the premises used for the reason.. or the level of abstractions made by believers and non-believers are different. believers seem to have simplest or broader abstractions.. God and religion would be the simplest ones and would never give proper predictions. also believers seem to have dangling beliefs-- beliefs which are connected to other beliefs or circulars beliefs.. beliefs never ultimately connected reality. | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1709 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: N/A |
I would accept that I am wrong in discrediting a quack seller of herbs/pills too. Would you suggesting trying those herbs or pills when one suffers from ailments? After all, the herbs or pills would be inaffective in the worst case. As long as it is not as unhygienic as some of the pushkaram water, it can't hurt much, right? And the cost won't be too high either. Should the government repeal the act that makes it illegal? "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17548 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
oh I totally appreciate and understand your stand .. you are dismissing a very rational benefit of that irrational act of seeking comfort - it is how your brain functions under an amygdala hijack of stress versus how it performs in a non-stress environment - you get more creative solutions in the latter ..mind you this is not true for people who abdicate responsibility to God The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2482 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
Irony is they even attribute the fruit of their of sins to faith | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17547 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Yes it does - faith is usually never static - most people assess, refine and sometimes redefine their idea of and the role attributed to God The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 812 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.115.229 Rating: N/A |
I mean the change of state of a system. time is measured in terms of the rate of change of some physical phenomenon. I think time can be observed only because there is change. however, i know time dilation leads to many contradictions. on a side note... the total amount of work done is the same in the normalized time units irrespective of the rate of flow of time in your frame of reference. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 811 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.115.229 Rating: N/A |
does faith work this way ! Can we have rational control over faith! | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2481 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
Unfortunately not everyone I meet had this deep understanding of faith,I believe they do not have the discretion. I respect what you believe in and at the same time for me faith in myself is what I believe in. If a day comes where I have to give up I would look towards the space and look for an answer rather than looking at a form factor. I do have fear and when I fear about something most of the times I feel panic and confused. The outcome of confusion is two things. Accepting the result and being rational. Being irrational and seeking comfort . Not that I mean you are doing , But in general I think its a insult to thyself when you attribute your success to a non existent form. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17546 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Everyone acts to their personal capabilities without fear -Faith comes in where you have to go higher than your personal capabilities I agree faith needs to make you grow , climb and explore not stagnate in the well ... So you need that discretion on where to place that faith ! The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2480 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
In continuation to your analogy, what if your son learns how to do a sky dive and does it for the first time without the guides help. What would be the best outcome from this experience. He enjoys his ride because of the faith he has in himself. Guide is supposed to be a road sign and should never be a road block. If I am in a well for me a guide is someone who helps me get out of it and encourages me to explore the world outside it , not someone who preaches me that the well is the most precious thing ever happened to me and I should keep cherishing each and every moment I spend within the four walls. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17545 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
It works both ways..last night I was watching the video of my son doing his first tandem skydive .. By nature he is not a risk taker ..I asked him wasn't it scary to jump off a plane and he said he did not have to - the guide basically pulled him along and he did not have to do anything ...basically having faith in someone else in control made him able to take the risk and freed him to enjoy the ride ...and I was thinking this is exactly what absolute faith does - whether in a human or in a higher power..it gives you a boost over the fears that can paralyze you into inaction The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17544 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.203.208 Rating: N/A |
Anduke kada multiple margalu jnanamarganiki skepticism prerequisite kani not for the others The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17543 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.203.208 Rating: N/A |
Are you an atheist , believer or agnostic ? The reason I ask is to be able to read your posts in that context Most things in life are about the risk/ reward ratio especially when there is a dose of skepticism in any belief , you are accepting that there is a chance you are wrong - in that case taking an action to cover your bases in case you are wrong is not logically inconsistent...Graha shantis etc ..fall into that category for many agnostics It takes a strong faith to conquer fear - either in absence or presence of God The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17542 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.203.208 Rating: N/A |
Ledandi I am less interested in publishing and more interested in the discussion - esp with people who have different viewpoints as a way of moving my introspection along - adi kuda it's not a very focused quest - just ambling along when I have time and inclination The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1708 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: |
I can see that you have a healthy skepticism. And the fact that you have identified a superstitious practice and are considering getting out of it makes me optimistic that you will eventually get out of it. The trouble is with people who don't think and don't remain open to listening and considering differing views. "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18908 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
There is a great force for which you don't matter anedi - is the closest I come to inside.. BUT - where I go off track.. pillalaki edo graha dosham vundi edo pooja/japam cheyishtye better annar anukondi.. first india ki call chesi.. idi cheyyinchandi ani cheptha.. I haven't gotten myself out of this.. not sure if I ever will | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1706 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: N/A |
I completely agree. Unfortunately, most of the religious people I know are skeptics on the inside but firm believers on the outside. The right way to go would be to keep changing ones opinions in response to new evidence (as Nisarga rightly said). But most religious people continue to maintain the same stand even in light of new evidence. Worse, their beliefs become stronger in light of contrary evidence! Do you know that incidents like school children getting burned in a classroom by accident (Kumbakonam tragedy) increase temple attendance and rituals to "God"? That incidence is an addition to evidence against the claim that the world is completely controlled by a benevolent and fair God! "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18906 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
Ajivikas - nastik school of philosophy - contemporary (??) to Buddhism.. | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18905 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
Then what is karma.. who oversees karmic nature.. if not a omnipresent force Buddhism invented its own heavenly planes as well.. I brought in Buddhism because it was the -ism closest to atheism in the ancient isms | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18904 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
yup | ||
Sasibabu Legend Username: Sasibabu Post Number: 44587 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 143.166.226.119 Rating: N/A |
he didnt tell... he said it doesnt matter....god vunna lekapoyinaa manaki immaterial ..... he has no personal time for you anedhi budha thought ani naa thought | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18903 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
Did Buddha believe in god? | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2479 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 161.162.84.84 Rating: N/A |
The capacity combined with personal experience helps us distinguish one from the other ( Good vs bad , rational vs irrational). Personal experience is the point where irrational contradicting ideas manifest into a rational single idea. In terms of helping us survive, at any time a single rational idea wins big time over irrational contradicting ideas. Believing in a blind belief , even if it helps you cope is doing a lot of harm if you view it in the larger sense. Basically you are making yourself blind from knowing the truth. You are giving up before you even try. | ||
Emc2 Legend Username: Emc2 Post Number: 50405 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 128.229.4.2 Rating: N/A |
how andi how, there is no change means day to day change in real life or are you talking about the stand still in life? looks contradictory.. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19061 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.27.162.114 Rating: N/A |
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Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 810 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
thx for mee abhimanam brother. blogs rasthe link pamputha. you can also share your views on religion or anything here | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18901 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
 abbee.. naaku ee discussions chadavatam tappa participate chese scene ledu.. adi migitha 7-th fail gallani gilladaniki.. was first response to this thread was to bump it | ||
Bharateeyudu Side Hero Username: Bharateeyudu Post Number: 2810 Registered: 03-2016 Posted From: 117.195.250.251 Rating: N/A |
enti nee peru veyyaledu ana...emo eppudu impact create cheyyaledu vayya nee post tho atleast naa 6 months db lo.,, tappu chesthe maninchu..nee blog address ivvu aithe... | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 809 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
right. seemingly contradicting ideas would I think arise when long standing or childhood beliefs are challenged by contrary evidences. the old beliefs must have got strongly imprinted(strong neural pathways). rationally we may not believe in them but they would get activated in their when we are subjected to the same conditions they are formed in earlier. how do we know being rational is helpful unless we honestly try for it. how do we know the being irrational is better than rationalistic view to cope with adversities. | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18898 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
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Bharateeyudu Side Hero Username: Bharateeyudu Post Number: 2806 Registered: 03-2016 Posted From: 117.195.250.251 Rating: N/A |
Raaja..nenu already neeku love you ani cheppa...nee vAnAkAlam postlaku nenu chakora pakshi laa eduru chusthuvuntaa..giraaki ledantaavu enti..quality mukhyam quantity kaadu kaadaa thaadu discos lo...neekem kastam vachindi ani ee last musings... Aynaa db inconsistency antaavu..enti...ee prapanchakamee full inconsistent...inka cheppali ante consistently inconsistent...adi leka pothe "andham" vundhadu...same is with db.. naaku moham meeda motimalu ishtam ledu..alaa ani mohanni ista padakundaa pothaana.. deni daari daaride.. (about your culture and pride and detesting about few things) nenu neeku exact opposite alochistha religion gurinchi so daani gurinchi nenu peddaga raayanu..but I still like and respect your views..endukante naaku nee posts vaadham kanipinchindi kaani vithanda vaadham kanipichaledu yeppudu naaku gurthu vunnantha varaku..... Of course nee range vere level[ the way u communicate] I always admired you... I hope ee db lonchi vellavu anukuntunna....vellipothe..aa blogging edo chesthaavu antunnavu kabatti..velle mundu nee blog address naaku email cheyyi.. @anand_n ...meeru kudaa blogging chesthaara..meeru chesthe kanaka mee blog id link kudaa ivvandi.. my emailid ... ravi30ccdb@gmail.com and intelligent dbers like mental, jujung, mushin,bushu and others...meeru blogging chesthe signature kindaa address pettukondi ani naa salaha..soochana.. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 807 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
to continue with my musings....my beliefs of time... one of my other interests... there is no time when there is no change. time dilation seems real. how do we know in case the duration of two seconds are not equal!! time travel is not possible. there is nothing to travel there but space. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 806 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
thx. nenu chala takkuva post chestha. mostly in ROM mode in DB. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 804 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
sure... if at all start it .. thought of it doing many times .. but am too lazy | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 803 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
right. it's ok as long as it is honest. As Inquisitive kind of mentioned some people would use it to defend their position. btw.. in science.. there is no the truth... it has to mend it self in the face of evidence. | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19058 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.27.162.114 Rating: N/A |
Nice to see this. but being a skeptic has its own affects on psyche.  | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 19057 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 98.27.162.114 Rating: N/A |
Nisarga vunkl, if you are working on a blog, please do post it here. will surely miss your posts and perspective. | ||
Bushu Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 12852 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.252.202.131 Rating: N/A |
anyone with half a brain should be a skeptic, for life. only fools are super sure of anything. | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1705 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: |
I am not going to attempt to answer your question here because I can't do it in one short answer. But what you said is one of the indications I see from believers that they are not sure. They are quite skeptical. But usually try to be hypocritical by posing as if they are sure. They don't acknowledge that they are agnostics. In our country, quacks (who sell herbs or pills with false claims of medicinal properties) are often arrested and prosecuted. They too claim that if disease struck villagers who can't afford expensive treatments can cope with their condition by taking our herbs/pills, what is the harm in that? They also argue that placebo affect may sometimes actually cause some improvement in the condition. "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2477 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
Kotha ID baaga vupayogapadindi | ||
Jujung Junior Artist Username: Jujung Post Number: 486 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 73.199.35.27 Rating: N/A |
Completely agree that omnipotent beings, even if they exist, wouldn't care that humans worship them. But religions don't need their existence or even that they acknowledge our worshipping rituals. They only need the humans to believe in that idea. Or rather, humans want to believe in such an idea for various psychological needs. Hence the prevalence of this concept across many cultures around the world.
The capacity to hold seemingly contradicting ideas in our minds is what sustains us and makes us different from the coming intelligent machines (at least the first generation machines).. Being rational is useful only if it helps us survive.. If a blind belief in an invisible omnipotent being helps us cope, why shouldn't we believe in it? The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.- Paul Valery | ||
Gongura Junior Artist Username: Gongura Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2016 Posted From: 5.104.175.107 Rating: N/A |
looks like identity crisis thread laaga undi | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1696 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: N/A |
I didn't mean to say that being stubborn/rigid is desirable. The reason for the unwavering confidence that I saw in atheists is a result of them not finding evidence contradictory to their belief. Similarly, the lack of conviction in the belief of the religious people is not because of their nature, it is because of the constant evidence that they keep finding against their belief. It is a tough thing for anybody to keep fighting off a deluge of evidence and continue their belief. In our world, if person passes by an injured person without tending to him, we look at that person with disgust and call him inhuman. How, then, can a person who proclaims love and devotion to an omnipotent being remain with conviction when that omnipotent being deliberately chooses to not prevent attrocities against innocent children? To top it, the religous people have to justify that the same God may favor them in succeeding in their exams, careers etc. This level of self-contradiction is hard to manage for any person, atheist or not. "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17538 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
And you think this unwavering confidence is better ? how ? Leaving aside the politics of religion, the whole discussion here is about people being able to entertain and evaluate another position without being immovably stuck in their rut The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Inquisitive Comedian Username: Inquisitive Post Number: 1695 Registered: 09-2014 Posted From: 72.201.12.25 Rating: |
I completely agree. From my experience, most of the people who claim to have unwavering faith in the existence of an omnipotent God and their own ability to influence him through prayers, visiting holy places etc. are simply hypocritical. They are really skeptics. The unwavering confidence that I see in atheists regarding their belief is absent in the religious people I see. "Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17537 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
An opposing belief raises questions on the validity of your own belief, your own understanding of 'the truth' ...If someone's really attached to their beliefs , the only way to hold those beliefs inviolate is to be able to dismiss/ denigrate all contradicting belief systems as irrelevant and false - hence the hate I think absolute truth eliminate chesi personal truths ante e godava undadu The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6903 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.107.249 Rating: N/A |
Biology is the study of Chemical Reactions following the principles of Atomic Physics that relies on Applied Math. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Blundersucks Side Hero Username: Blundersucks Post Number: 3015 Registered: 02-2013 Posted From: 122.169.205.8 Rating: N/A |
yes.. we can disagree with other beliefs.. but hate is a big word.. vere valla meeda blood boil avvadam, just because they support a philosophy/politician/actor which we dont like is unnecessary. ee desa charitra choosina emunnadi garva karanam, Nara jaathi charitra samstam , parapeedana parayanatvaM | ||
Blundersucks Side Hero Username: Blundersucks Post Number: 3013 Registered: 02-2013 Posted From: 122.169.205.8 Rating: N/A |
excellent post.. mee threads ee DB lo eppudu chudaledu.. ee desa charitra choosina emunnadi garva karanam, Nara jaathi charitra samstam , parapeedana parayanatvaM | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 802 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
right...we tend believe what we like believe. ok kaani manam namminde the truth ani vaadistham kada. adi kuda ok anukundaam.. how about hating other beliefs! yes.. change is very slow. i sometimes think that change could actually be to fend off perishing. by definition.. as change happens to something... that something is always kept it's essence.. otherwise its completely a new thing....its not change .. so change is to not change | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 801 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
yes. ego in usual sense miru cheppindi look correct. But I used it in my post in synonymous with consciousness and self. I meant the very phenomenon that separates humans from other animals and animate from inanimate. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 800 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
agree. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 799 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
good one! | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 798 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
tappakunda | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 797 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
yes.. but as a placebo effect... | ||
Rangoon Side Hero Username: Rangoon Post Number: 2504 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 175.137.167.104 Rating: N/A |
80% of the cases fate is desiding when he/she born. take a case you born in rich family like cbn, ysr, kcr, sonia family take the case if you born poor family(like sc community in a small village). hardly 20% of cases fate may be better or copleatly un expected. tokkalodi deeniki discussion marala | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6895 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.107.249 Rating: |
God, Self, Consciousness, Soul, Ego, Idea, Religion, Thought, Thinking, Emotion, Belief, Faith, Hope, Depression, Logic - everything is nothing but fueled by Chemical Reactions. Life is a Chemical Reaction, happening inside a Cell. So long as the reaction is happening, aided by DNA, Cell is alive. Reaction stops, Cell dies, DNA remains and doesn't decompose. Every musing is nothing but a Complex Set of Chemical Reactions inside a Complex Network of interconnected Neuron Cells. The musings are not the complication, the ramblings that arise from the musings between any entirely mutually independent complex network of neurons is what adds to the complication, paving the path for a much more complicated concept of Fate and Destiny!!! Fate and Destiny, as we know, are the result of Butter-fly effect, in a broader sense, both the inwardly and outwardly change-waves (genetics and circumstances) traveling (passed-on) over time. Bottomline, yes we are alone. There is no other intelligent life-form, and earth is not the final frontier, such is the evolution of the complications!!! "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 45808 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 49.206.113.245 Rating: N/A |
tappemundi mesharu .. anyways humans believe in what he/she likes to believe.. nache vishayalani nammadam tappu kadu endukante nache vishayallone hope untundi. ika pothe Change is very slow in nature ee rendu vishayalni oppukuni munduku podam better kada ? | ||
Gotcha Megastar Username: Gotcha Post Number: 25442 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.89.22 Rating: N/A |
Nisagra Good topics not clear on ego. Ego vale dabbu sampistamu anedi naa philosphy just to live u dont need too much money but to feed the ego wolf that ur better than othersu r hunting for more money or knowledge ... | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2473 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
May be true, Will start thinking in this direction. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17536 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: |
DB discussions on these topics are good for throwing out your thoughts and see if people have other ideas experiences that contradict .. And writing out your thoughts can help crystallize some of them too .. But if you are not getting any of that value then yeah it's not worth the time.. jignasa/ curiosity in these topics ebbs and flows for most people depending on what else is happening in their lives ...so you will not get a consistent audience - which actually may be a good thing The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Sasibabu Legend Username: Sasibabu Post Number: 44554 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 166.137.143.28 Rating: N/A |
Good thread ... Working day roju paadithe bagundedi Will post my experience on Monday ... Keep bumping | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17534 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: |
Having clarity that it's useless discussion is probably less useful than having the clarity on what motivates you to participate the first will leave you conflicted the second will actually aid you in deciding whether to continue or not! We do a lot of things motivated by peer pressure, need for social acceptance, need to tiptoe around others feelings, or fear of missing out and all these are not necessarily logically consistent .. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2472 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
I had a chance to talk to this lady... According to her... We are better of being early humans ... We are killing the whole environment in the name of evolution/ Seeking the truth....... If you are going to start a blog , le tme know too. | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 2258 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 166.216.165.87 Rating: N/A |
Idedo theda thread la vundi .. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17533 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
if you blog - don't forget to email me a linkThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2471 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: N/A |
Coming to the ongoing the discussions in the DB: Supporting a political party/ treating particular sports person, cinema person as a demi-god are the worst discussions where we waste most of our time. Useless discussions .......... Having this clarity I still ending up posting NTR images on my FB wall. I still bad mouth people who do not agree to my political affiliation /caste.... So I am trying to be someone which I am not or I am supposed to be....... Hopefully I would refrain myself from doing the same in the coming days... | ||
Meghan Side Hero Username: Meghan Post Number: 2470 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 50.155.109.127 Rating: |
My language is not so polished. But I will try to scribble something I think may be relevant to this discussion. pardon me if I jump from one line of thought to other line of thoughts within a same sentence. My line of thought: God: There is no God or super power that controls you .The whole religion / Super power line of thought makes you feel comfortable at the end of the day. So humans tend to accept it as Truth . Religion /God are supposed to make the world a better place , they are nothing but set of rules that distinguish Good from Bad. Sadly now a days its the opposite. Human mind is very unstable , In the evolution process we achieved a little bit progress in controlling it. Many thoughts in our minds are suppressed and are never communicated because of several reasons. Its not right to expect a perfect world where several billion unstable beings have to work in a perfect rhythm. No human can be perfect. we were born and bought up in a world set by different rules. Sometimes I feel the evolution of humans has both equal good and bad affects. Good in the sense it set a semi platform where you can start from rather than building everything from scratch. Bad in the sense the platform was not based on rational thoughts. So you end up with the responsibility of contributing something new on top of existing platform and at the same time you have to correct the existing system. For me this is purpose of life. The later task is more hard thing to do. The deeper the problem is the harder it gets to make it right. ****************************************************** To answer your questions, Many people does not know unless some one points them that there are logical consistencies int their argument. Unless you are surrounded by different sets of people there will be no one correct your inconsistent arguments. Even if they are matured and aware about the inconsistencies. They will hide it so that they can live comfortably. Every human tries to defend his line of thought before accepting the inconsistencies . The more open-minded or enlightened he is the sooner he will accept and correct them. Being open-minded or enlightened is not a easy to attain. So for so many of us its easier to accept the inconsistencies . | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 796 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
nenu chusinantha varaku.. he says/feels that there exists a creator. he is not consistent. | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 795 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
repu post chestha.. too late now | ||
Bobby Junior Artist Username: Bobby Post Number: 327 Registered: 04-2008 Posted From: 76.31.108.109 Rating: N/A |
RGV Koda ramuism on God lo same to same cheppadu Idhi Chala correct anipistundhi , but idhi 100 % belief ki Chala time paduthadhi anukunta due to religious beliefs from our early age always try to override theses | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 794 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
emo...ikkada entha sepu forgone conclusions meeda discussion chesthaamemo anipinchindi... and inka cheppalante naa threads ki elaagu giraki undadu antha effort pettadam waste emo.. ide asalaina reason emo better to blog somewhere anipisthundi... | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17532 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: |
Hmm- but it matters to people to believe that ' they , their awareness and actions' matter to that force The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17530 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Anta ok but why this sudden need to have a last thread ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 793 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: N/A |
i know people here are intelligent n successful ...but I do not understand the logical inconsistency in them... on one hand they detest many aspects of Indian society and other hand they feel greatest about their culture and heritage. I do not understand why a great heritage would produce a detestable society. why do not we understand the logical inconsistencies in our arguments!! | ||
Whyme Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 18873 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 172.73.178.253 Rating: N/A |
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Nisarga Junior Artist Username: Nisarga Post Number: 792 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 106.51.26.232 Rating: |
have been in DB since IBDB days...have discussed mostly in philosophy,god/religion, science/technology threads...so.. w.r.t that context...would to like to give my updated/un-updated beliefs n would like to know the other participants' beliefs' updates based on their witnessed evidences .. God -- no changes in the views... not sure how God is defined by people.. but there is no such thing as omniscient, omnipotent, intelligent designer... even if such a force exists.. it does not matter to your existence and condition... you do not matter to such a force. it does not matter if you are aware of or unaware of such a force. Self/Consciousness/Ego/Soul etc... the very nature of it is separation from the rest and that is the very problem of it... all of us r locked in our own mental world.. we can never communicate the experience directly and we can only understand others if we have similar/matching experiences. or thought may be able to extrapolate the things where direct experience stops... so.. i would think even if consciousness is explained and reduced to it constituent biological processes.. it would still be a wonder... -- not much changes in this view too.. Religion -- religion and god have some social and inner engineering utilities with heavy side effects.. this could be my last thread... would ramble more later... |
