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Nagfanscom Side Hero Username: Nagfanscom Post Number: 4753 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 49.206.201.7 Rating: N/A |
Estimating Story Points in Agile - MAGIC Approach http://www.slideshare.net/MarrajuBollapRagada/estimating-sto ry-points-in-agile-magic-approach-47345114 I spent lot of time in devising the above approach with real time data & analysis and had lengthy discussion with Mike Cohan (Mountain Goat) on the above approach. CBN: Man with Vision & Mission facebook.com/NamoNaraYanam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIfjgfl4Ng | ||
Nagfanscom Side Hero Username: Nagfanscom Post Number: 4752 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 49.206.201.7 Rating: |
My presentation on Agile vs Iterative vs Waterfall models: http://www.slideshare.net/MarrajuBollapRagada/agile-vs-itera tivevswaterfall Wiley publishers took some of the content from my presentation and published in one of its book. This got 83k unique views in slideshare CBN: Man with Vision & Mission facebook.com/NamoNaraYanam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIfjgfl4Ng | ||
Nagfanscom Side Hero Username: Nagfanscom Post Number: 4751 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 49.206.201.7 Rating: |
My Work on Agile http://www.slideshare.net/MarrajuBollapRagada/edit_my_upload s CBN: Man with Vision & Mission facebook.com/NamoNaraYanam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIfjgfl4Ng | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6852 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.107.249 Rating: N/A |
Agile is Dangerous for the entire team. Agile chethakaani Noise Candidates anthaa vunte.. First Dev ni target chesthaar.. taravatha QA, and then one-another, and finally IT Back Office floor floor anthaa maayam ayyiddi.. SDLC lo Requirements Docs, BRS, SRS, Wireframes, Visuals, HLD, LLD, Test Scripts.. iyanni yenni ichhinaa Devs and QAs will finally build some workable product and release it to production with a significantly good success-rate... and the code-base will be ready for upgrades and enhancements as and when required... Agile cheyatam raakapothey.. SDLC is safe-bet always... "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Vishvak Side Hero Username: Vishvak Post Number: 3808 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 72.192.34.77 Rating: N/A |
We may not know but the nature knows and all the requirements are clear in the DNA  Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17509 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Wrong analogy - a baby is not a waterfall project either - you do not decide rqmts, you don't design and build it - you accept whatever gets delivered Rasp , We use RTC for execution and it is not great ..costing is thru time entry system , and we ended up using excel to put the two together for portfolio mgmt and tracking- it is cumbersome but have not yet found a tool that can integrate the two. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20474 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.54.44.232 Rating: N/A |
without any proprietary info, can you do something like a visio diagram, so that I can compare your model with the SAFe one? Briefly what I am trying to see is something related to roles & responsibilities, cadences, etc. I don't need any info about release infra. Curious to know the following: 1. Vision -> roadmap (program/portfolio level) 2. Stakeholder engagement Not very important, but which s/w tool do you use....like Rally, Jira, VersionOne. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Vishvak Side Hero Username: Vishvak Post Number: 3800 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 72.192.34.77 Rating: N/A |
How to deliver a baby in Agile way? has anyone tried?  Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17508 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
One planning mtg where you estimate your work , one demo in a two week sprint and 15 min stand up everyday - is too many mtgs ? Deadlines and estimates are given by developers no one else - if they have trouble it would be on them to fix how they point/estimate The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17506 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Lol - just because your team works that way does not mean everyone does I sit right next to my team and I know how much time they spend - what they are working on and how much stress they feel - atleast all the ftes .. 3P is probably less transparent but they are not taking any more load than my ftes The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 54167 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.89.20 Rating: N/A |
UI dev teams with direct business consumers ki baga work out wvutundi naa work demo iste business user bore kotti aatma hatya cheskuntaad and...maadi shared services team. i was part of multiple scrums sachipovaal anipinchedi | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 54166 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.89.20 Rating: N/A |
wrong analogy ani ardham ayindi status check and explaining what you are doing to people is stressful. especially if the other person is not in sync with you team size perige koddi... the scrum calls become longer and longer and .. pointless anyway.. i am out of that phase. past 2 years ga prasantam ga undi | ||
Vishvak Side Hero Username: Vishvak Post Number: 3796 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 72.192.34.77 Rating: N/A |
But software development is no driving... No one can write the end requirements at the beginning of the project... They keep changing means the destination we are talking is not fixed it is moving destination Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18994 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146 Rating: N/A |
but thats how the latest GPS works.. accident ayyi road block ayithe route sange sesthadi automatic ga.. the thing is, you where you are driving to, but you are always not aware if that is the place to be, and if that is the correct route. | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 54165 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.89.20 Rating: N/A |
my feeling if you are driving some where and you stop every 2 miles to check the map and re-assess the route, you are only slowing down your journey | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18993 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146 Rating: N/A |
i would like to know what these are. If as as developer (i am assuming these are "lower rungs of software food chain", which shouldnt exist in Agile btw), you are not involved in coming up with these. Agile has failed to begin with. How is your velocity tracked? | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18991 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146 Rating: N/A |
I have come across this in many places. purely management issue. When the team is not involved in estimation of tasks, this is bound to happen. Also, i have seen a few places where Agile is only for the software team, this does not work either. The culture of the company needs to be agile. the downside is that everyone's effort is very transparent. If the whole team is struggling to delivery, obviously there are revisions of process needed, if they are not happening, its just means that they did not understand the process to begin with. and by the way, there will not be "not being aware" scenario | ||
Lolli Junior Artist Username: Lolli Post Number: 198 Registered: 08-2009 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: |
you are either being lied to or just simply unaware (not blaming you personally here) of what your so called "back-bone" has to put up with so you can claim what you seem to be claiming. Been working in agile for 2 years now, and recently started SAFe agile. This is nothing but too much pressure on the lower rungs of the s/w food chain. inundated by unnecessary meetings, impossible deadlines, unreasonable expectations...if i quit where i work it will be because of agile | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17505 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
I can't do that... they are for company internal use only.. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6850 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
Makes sense... Epics and Stories proper gaa identify cheyalekapothey... Agile will Fail Miserably!!! Indulo Scrum Master tappu yemi ledu.. but Scrum Master also should be able to provide the right inputs and course-corrections. Stories should be Testable. Each Story can have multiple QA Test-strategy Stories. Building the Account-Selector is a Story, not an Epic, for the below Check Deposit Epic I had quoted as an example. Validating the Text-Entry Field for Amount data to only support Positive Decimal Numbers as Currency with a prepended Currecy Symbol, and no Character-text is also a Story. Each Story is then Sliced as Tasks by Devs and QA, QA mostly will not have a say about Dev Tasks, but overall Test-strategy of the Story itself. Can Stories have types? - Discovery / Research / POC, Regression, Production, Browser Compatibility etc? "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Politricks Hero Username: Politricks Post Number: 19963 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 160.83.73.17 Rating: N/A |
Jambal "Epics / Stories / Work slicing yevadu chesthaadu?" Maaku FA with help of BA chestharu and we are involved in Grooming session...and after all the comments fine tune chestharu! | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20473 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.4.209 Rating: N/A |
epic to story breakdown should be done by the PO, BA, tech leads + archs with feedback from dev & qa. Work slicing antey task creation or assignment ayithey, let dev and qa do it on their own. Ikkada verey valla involvement lekapothey better. Ledu, some manager naaku explicit gaa oka task isthey thappa nenu emi pattinchukonu, aney type candidates can look for a job elsewhere 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17502 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
We define an epic as something that can go to prod independently - so all work pertaining to that gets written up as stories with inputs from the tech folks - the stories are owned by the product owner.. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17500 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
For us product owner, a functional analyst if needed and a tech lead/architect..facilitated by scrum master! The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6847 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
Epics / Stories / Work slicing yevadu chesthaadu? "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17499 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
This is the problem ! Business need and acceptance criteria define cheyyatam product owners job - but stories need to be reviewed in conjunction with an architect/ tech lead and QA , before starting to build, tech spikes need to be written by the tech guys,added to the back long and they need to explain those to the product owner ... You guys are facing the pain points we did early into the adoption process but our users and teams have matured.. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6845 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
http://thecooperreview.com/software-engineer-cheat-sheet/ "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17498 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
Intermittent Working software demo is fundamentally an agile principle ..I know what you are talking about - this was our cheat to do agile too under the guise of waterfall when the stake holders were not ready to embrace agile ., We used to call it iterative dev, lean agile , we even did part waterfall and then the actual dev in agile true waterfall is sequential SDLC , rqmts, design , construction, test, release! Any changes are missed rqmts , change requests or defectsThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 18984 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 209.60.166.146 Rating: N/A |
it is easy to mismanage Agile process, and it will create alot of dissatisfaction for productive teams like developers and QA teams, while giving more flexibility to product teams. When done right, the flexibility and speed of the process makes things projects get completed,evaluated and re-designed much better than waterfall models. the key thing is not just about completing the project on a dead-line but the ability to make lateral changes when the product is still in a beta stage. incremental releases and managing user stories appears easy when talked about, but unless deligent through the life cycle of the project productive teams will end up overworked and the quality suffers. There is a reason for all of the stakeholders to be on the same page all the time in Agile process. Remote teams or co-located teams, it should not matter, although a co-located team has more advantage, but then its true with any project. | ||
Aha Side Hero Username: Aha Post Number: 4065 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 170.136.110.10 Rating: N/A |
Always been a water fall person here. Agile overhead tattukovadam kashtam. Most of our projects stick to water fall. However, there are a few outsourced projects for which the team follows Agile. Again, it all depends on the project for us to determine which is suitable. The One and Only Veturi | ||
Politricks Hero Username: Politricks Post Number: 19957 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 160.83.73.17 Rating: N/A |
AGILE Vs WATERFALL.. Was working all the time in WATERFALL till 2010 and 2011 I first started working in AGILE Project! That was in FANNIE MAE...got trained up by AGILE Coach for 3 weeks and we were a serious Agile team!! Had dedicated Scrum Master, Scrum Meetings, Daily Stand Ups, Sprint Planning meetings, Retrospective meetings etc. We were maintaining Product Backlogs efficiently and were having crisp User Stories and were strictly going with 3 week sprints! So, in FANNIE Agile was a SUPER HIT and we were appreciated by the Top Management as were one of the first successful AGILE team! Cut chesthe...naa present job! We do follow AGILE but very Undisciplined and no control on Backlogs, User Stories are like Mahabharat epics and no definitive timelines...very shabby and sucks!! But...overall if followed properly AGILE Projects are the way to develop software...not WATERFALL! | ||
Rgb Side Hero Username: Rgb Post Number: 3734 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 100.35.71.56 Rating: N/A |
Everything depends on implementation. As long as business people are engaged during development. What I notice is that people use 'Agile' to skip on much needed documentation. Once the people involved leave the project, vunnavallaki itthade | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 4591 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
You are right. It is. we used to do the same. It is not a text book version of waterfall. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 4589 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
he is doing a bad job. the features and requirements have to broken to an independent unit that is testable and deploy-able. You can raise the issue in scrum meeting and ask them to further refine the requirements the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 8750 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
why not? We had a 6 month release cycles...we scheduled couple of demos with business people in the middle..how is that not a waterfall? | ||
Jai_ycp Side Hero Username: Jai_ycp Post Number: 4588 Registered: 04-2015 Posted From: 100.36.224.18 Rating: N/A |
Lot of valid points. Agile is not for every project. we use a combination of waterfall, rup and agile to get things going. agile has lot of overhead and is useful for specific scenarios. Nobody is pure waterfall for the last 10 years. you always get constant feedback though not exactly the way SCRUM does. the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ http://goo.gl/gn6XL5 the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6837 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
It Appears eppudu pani cheyani Managers pani cheyaalsi vasthundi ante, that is Agile. Oka XYZ Feature kaavaali.. entha time paduthundi, Estimate cheppu.. Points assign cheyi antaaru... Asalu aa XYZ Feature Epic avvalaa.. Story avvaalaa... And by saying Story, am randomly assuming a Story is analogous to a Use-Case flow in WaterFall Model. Let's take a Check Deposit feature in any one of your Banking Apps on your smart-phone. Check Deposit as such is one Epic, Check Deposit Transaction History is another Epic in itself, although Designers would try and fit both in the same Screen, probably as Tabbed-layout for small-screen smart-devices, and split-layout in Tablets and Large-screens. Check Deposit ki kaavaalsina bare minimum Transaction Data - Account, Amount, Check-Images. Account needs to be backed by a Selector - (Radio-button group, or Single-Selector not multi-selector etc), Amount is a simple Text-Entry field, Asalu complications anthaa capturing Check-Images, Showcasing the captured-image as Preview, and allowing User to Accept a good-one, and then putting together all of these data-points as a Formal JSON or SOAP request and sending it across over to the Server, and waiting for a Success or Failure Acknowledgment and notifying the User based on the Response... Cheppukuntu pothey yekangaa SRS ayyiddi... Feature-set ni correct gaa Epic, and Stories gaa divide cheyatam Product Owners job.. chaalaa mandi Epic raasi vadilesthaaru... and/or two-stories - One for Check Deposit, and another for Transaction History of Check Deposits ani pettesthey... What can Dev and QA Do?? "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17497 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
This is not waterfall The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Brighton Side Hero Username: Brighton Post Number: 3054 Registered: 05-2014 Posted From: 50.235.30.66 Rating: N/A |
everyone thinks that they are following agile, but in reality 70% fail. Devs ki doola teeradam , QAs need to update dev skills... ika room lo padesi kummadam ..deenikosam maa vallu desks peekesi round tables petti set chesaru | ||
Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 8748 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
hmm..disagree...depends on the project managers...few try to mitigate risks by constantly engaging business for periodic demos of application...we did that for many years a with government clients. | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 7110 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 165.225.104.75 Rating: N/A |
medhavulantha ikkade unnaara...edho discussing... mana subject kaadhu ani telustundhi \walk_away | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17496 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
It is a shift in thinking for both business and IT - in waterfall business can treat IT as a contractor/ vendor , throw the rqmts over and disengage - agile it is not so - they have to stay engaged throughout, own what is being built ( not just what they asked for ) and IT needs to get comfortable with the continuous scrutiny and course correction The most resistance a few years ago was on the need for more business resource capacity that it will be expensive for them to staff product owners .. But overtime we convinced them that this was more effective .. Actually for us over the years ,the business refrain has been that IT costs too much and takes too long - but for the first time this year this group's customer sat remark was IT is cost effective with an NPS of a 100 for our group - they attributed it to the agile processes and our model- and this when we are running a higher ratio of high cost full timers/ onsite 3P vs cheaper offshore So politics can be worked through - you just need patience from the managers who understand agile and the business fears - I have been there The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Savyasachi Comedian Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 1258 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.230.31.93 Rating: N/A |
ive been switching between agile and waterfall projects since 2008. personally i dont care. you do the same work in agile or waterfall. in agile you have to hear others BS more often than waterfall. | ||
Ringo_rangaswamy Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy Post Number: 15116 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 166.137.252.56 Rating: N/A |
Political culture unna work environment lo Agile antay Project Pekaata aipoyundi | ||
Savyasachi Comedian Username: Savyasachi Post Number: 1256 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.230.31.93 Rating: N/A |
that is called watergel methodology. | ||
Heineken Side Hero Username: Heineken Post Number: 3557 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 8.39.118.254 Rating: N/A |
I Use Agile-Fall depending on my mood | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20470 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.4.209 Rating: N/A |
lol. Hopefully, edo knowledge sharing chesi, rest meekey vadilesthey better. Ledu chattaanni chethiloki teesukuntaa antey ibbandi 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Atta_boy Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 13013 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 71.199.198.57 Rating: N/A |
kotha managaer vassindu....emanna ante agile slides etti kummesthunnadu.... scrum master certfication unnattu undi.... http://i.imgur.com/hJOZ9iv.gif | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20469 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.4.209 Rating: N/A |
phone lo intha kantey typing kashtam. Repu afternoon anthaa dealership lo wait chesthoo untaanu, kaavalantey phone lo maatlaadukundaamu 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20468 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.4.104 Rating: N/A |
+1. Meeku eppudayina kudirithey, please email me any docs describing your model. I am curious to know about Non-SAFe models. when ppl think agile is about meetings, sprints, processes , they are wrong. Teams self organize chesukokundaa micro manage chesthey, results will not be good. Nenu chesina Biryani thini, Biryani is the worst thing ever annatlu undi. 2 years+ to go to market for a product with 100s of developers in 2 countries ki waterfall to agile scrum transformation was very successful. Maintenance projects Kanban more efficient. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17495 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
We are building brand new applications using Agile like someone said below Agile is flexible - success depends on understanding how to slice the work ( functional and technical slicing), priority and sequencing the work.. And being able to articulate why some technical slices need to be done first! The only hurdle I have hit in all these years are vendor dependencies and their varying timelines! We monitor technical debt closely , have a great partnership with the business , The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6836 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 24.45.107.249 Rating: N/A |
This is interesting discussion. 1. Not all IT projects are UI specific. Backend systems, Middle-tier Systems, Message-brokers, Databases, Single-Sign On support systems etc etc.. But any bugs/defects, direct and clear gaa kallaki kanapadedi UI/UX loney.. 2. Consider starting each of those as a Fresh, Brand New project that is complete rehash and revamp of the company website based on latest JS frameworks like Angular JS, fetching JSON based on Rabbit-MQ Notifications to NodeJS etc etc.. Noise candidates ki dependencies and technical debt ardham koodaa kaavu. Epics and Stories JIRA lo define chesinantha maatranna Projects ayipovu... Architect okadini koorchopetti mottam framework code-base design chesi ivvu ante vaadey oka 2 months teeskuntaadu to get the first hand-shake, say Login and Entitlements. Before Architect can proceed with the code-base they have to consider Context Management, Content Management, Threading Management, Exception and Error Management, ilaa mottam 9 different types... which will have to be clearly defined by the said Noise Candidates for all possible Use-cases, User Experience scenarios, and additionally Architect will have to leave scope for Technical Challenges that are not part of the Use-cases and UX. Idanthaa malli framework code-base lo seamless hand-shakes toh jarigipovaali without too much code-replication in use-case code-implementations. 2 months, 4 sprint cycles.. last ki choosthey all Epics and Stories are incomplete based on "Definition of Done" due to unclear Inter-and-Circular Dependencies ani ardham ayyiddi!!! Agile is only meant for Enhancement Projects. Existing Systems lo small change. Craigslist vundi, add a feature to securely upload photos of items you want to sell.. type Use-cases or Stories ki Agile correct.. Build Craigslist website ani Agile lo chesthaam ante.. tellariddi!!! "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Thikka_sankara Megastar Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 29966 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.214.73 Rating: N/A |
Worker pov lo agile rocks...... Client pov lo agile rocks..... Edaina chivariki migiledi rocks and rappale It's the victims that don't belong to a religion -- reference intended | ||
Abcdefghij Hero Username: Abcdefghij Post Number: 19002 Registered: 02-2007 Posted From: 68.42.113.64 Rating: N/A |
same amount of work waterfall vs agile check cheste konni sarlu waterfall better than agile...less wastage in terms on everything...you get more feedback everyweek you end up changing that many times good and bad i am talking about budget/hours burned etc. end product comes out with too much feedback/focus groups early in the game which is good but again it all depends on what is the end product. continious ga changes vunde products aiyte agile better vurike 6months lo delivery kani 2 weeks sprints progress kosam ante no use. but team lo dynamic developers vunte agile ni kottindi ledu particularly if developers are new/zeal vunna vallu vunte... Post by Knf: bittter annai, welcome RS prakasam varaku madi, Prakasm nunchi UA vaaraku meeedi http://www.chalanachithram.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=115&post=5144373#POST5144373 | ||
Ringo_rangaswamy Hero Username: Ringo_rangaswamy Post Number: 15109 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 24.189.91.49 Rating: N/A |
WtF process still relevant for small projects | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 62696 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 98.156.0.52 Rating: |
pure agile or pure WF wont work..hybrid approach worked in most of the projects..meetings lo time waste tappa eti ledu! | ||
Startrek Junior Artist Username: Startrek Post Number: 231 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 72.46.217.36 Rating: N/A |
we do Kanban Agile. SCRUM and sprints kakunda these are mini waterfalls but you will have limits on queue and you can see bottlenecks ekkada or evari valla undi ani Also you won't need daily stand-ups, weekly twice 5 mins more than enough. this is working much better for us | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17494 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
My portfolio team spans 4 cities 3 countries .. We try to limit a scrum team to 2 locations - one here and one offsite to get some synergy, but I have to say a fully co-located team is significantly more efficient ! The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17493 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.179.185.115 Rating: N/A |
4 years now with a 100 % agile - but have been working different flavors of Agile for 8 years now - the first few years I had both waterfall and agile .. 2.5 years ago me and my team came up with a very lean scaleuable agile model (not SAFE)and that has been working like a charm The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20467 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.24.88.92 Rating: N/A |
except for a short 11 month stint, almost all my teams were not 100% co-located. Either offshore or offsite (cities in other timezones) undevaaru 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20466 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 98.24.88.92 Rating: N/A |
very rare. Historical data (committed vs delivered, bugs etc.) ni retrospective lo discuss cheyyochu. Also they need to come out of the mindset that once code is written their job is done. Bugs undakoodadu and end product should meet expectations. In waterfall days, I would write some code and call it dev complete. 6 months later my qa team finds bugs and I fix them after 3 more months. In agile world, my job is not done until qa clears it, PO accepts it, and peers review it for coding standards and best practices. Tookigaa cheppalantey....."definition of done " gurinchi discuss cheyyandi and explain why it matters a lot 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Dma Hero Username: Dma Post Number: 17492 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 4.15.15.243 Rating: N/A |
explain more. how agile is making good jobs? Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Saarang Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 13348 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.75 Rating: |
To some extent yes. From what I have seen, teams that go agile cut down on working remotely and also go towards open office work spaces...no more offices except for senior execs. They can outsource an entire product...so off-shoring will not totally decline. | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 10137 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 173.163.199.113 Rating: N/A |
what i observed is does not matter, it all depend n end client, their deadlines, requirements, their budget... prjects go slow until someone from higher level warns that we are at crunch, then struggle starts, then they try to put every possible burden on developer, finally if it goes fine, fine if not the blame starts from developer to upwards, again it is case by case....because of agile which is expensive most of the people are atleast getting good jobs sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT | ||
Dma Hero Username: Dma Post Number: 17491 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 4.15.15.243 Rating: N/A |
how do you handle over enthusiastic team members who wants to go with aggressive estimates and hence set wrong expectations with the Users/product owner Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Dma Hero Username: Dma Post Number: 17490 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 4.15.15.243 Rating: N/A |
No. We have teleconferences and video conferences. It gets even more encouraged with technology and connectivity gets better. Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20465 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 172.56.26.234 Rating: N/A |
since 2010 or 2011 here 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Vishvak Side Hero Username: Vishvak Post Number: 3790 Registered: 01-2007 Posted From: 72.192.34.77 Rating: N/A |
Is the rise of Agile means decline of offshoring? Agile advocates for co-location of the teams... Most importantly togetherness of Dev and Business teams... Vi veri universum vivus vici My Blog: The Power Of One | ||
Dma Hero Username: Dma Post Number: 17489 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 4.15.15.243 Rating: N/A |
how long have you been doing this? Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Dma Hero Username: Dma Post Number: 17488 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 4.15.15.243 Rating: N/A |
For those who are starting fresh with Agile/Scrum: - please note that Agile is flexible - Control over enthusiastic guys in the team from committing too much/estimating aggressively - build a culture in the team to estimate conservatively and be with open mindset that you can always pull more stories if you finish early - dont involve Users/product owners in story point estimates. - If you notice team burning out, make sure to slow down and be conservative with the estimates. If you build right culture in the team, you can actually have fun. Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!! | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20463 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.54.85.195 Rating: N/A |
+1 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Rasputin Megastar Username: Rasputin Post Number: 20462 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 208.54.85.185 Rating: N/A |
Jambal as a developer, who worked in waterfall, lobbied for agile, went through somewhat painful transition, we will never go back to waterfall. Ippudu certainly bias undochu, since I am not a developer anymore. Oka weekend call chesthey sardaaga renduu drinks esthoo charchiddaamu. It seems like you don't have right ppl or mindsets running things. 01/06/2012 - 169.4; 8/1/2013 - 182 | ||
Botsa_fan Side Hero Username: Botsa_fan Post Number: 8330 Registered: 07-2013 Posted From: 166.137.102.98 Rating: N/A |
Ilkada agile safe Fan of Prabhas,Jr.NTR and SDT | ||
Starc Side Hero Username: Starc Post Number: 3867 Registered: 03-2015 Posted From: 71.248.175.41 Rating: N/A |
Agile lo.. agile teliyani vadini pedithe aa speed ki tattukoleka borla bokkala padutharu.. Agile ante.. dev-deployment team, infrastructure , business , management anni synch ayyi undali.. only oka scrum master in enti.. agile agile ani tiruguthe andaru picchekki potharu Pandulu drainaige guntalo undi matladukuntai anta.. Chi Chi Manushulu ala ela untaru.. chi chi.. | ||
Driverramudu Hero Username: Driverramudu Post Number: 16909 Registered: 02-2009 Posted From: 166.170.15.45 Rating: N/A |
Jambal Agile behavior or talking lone kaadu main work lo sooinchaali Then only work progress if not majority of systems failure It's very rare to see ppl who got business knowledge and implement Knowledge. Both must have to get work done as pe schedule or to build Successful system Yes I am telling that Driving is my PASSION. Ball or Bimmer does not matter. | ||
Nanigadu Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 18576 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 184.144.117.34 Rating: N/A |
adey kadha annay, correct gaa 2 years kritham varaku ee concepts implement cheyyakapoyina products deliver chesam but ippudu thokkalodhi rojuko ganta rendu gantalu dhobs ee meetings thoti chiraku dobbinchesthunnaru, roju eti chestunnavo cheppali, konni work avuthayi, konni issues vosthayi, but prathokati explain chesukovali. antey ur work is getting scrutinized every freaking day... but that's how these days in every other company, so eti ledhu calm gaa follow avvatamey edho oka roju WaterGel ani vosthadhi, andaram kottukupotham anthey | ||
Aggipidugu116 Side Hero Username: Aggipidugu116 Post Number: 2121 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 72.78.82.193 Rating: N/A |
Nenu infra app/ prod suffort .. Maa daggara evaru ee perlu kooda ettaru .. Asala deniki ivi use avutai .. Evadu pani aadu chesukunte..  | ||
Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 54155 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 63.79.89.20 Rating: N/A |
water fall ni abuse chesi chesi upper mgmt ki siraak dobbinchaaru uncles daani effect....one fine day vollu mandi i dont know what you guys do.. every one get into a room (pod), commit on some deliverable, deliver it. we will keep checking every day (scrum call). you need to tell what you did the day before, what you are going to do that day, and if something is blocking you. and i need a demo every week. | ||
Sannayi_nokkulu Hero Username: Sannayi_nokkulu Post Number: 10134 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 166.216.165.27 Rating: N/A |
*2.. sachipotava , avineethi ga batukutava okkate option ante alochinchakunda chachipotaa ane type cbn - OT | ||
Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 17492 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 70.195.195.135 Rating: N/A |
Sounds more like a mismanagement issue than an agile issue .. I run a 100 % agile and will never go back to waterfall - and neither will my developers or business partners - my teams have averaged less than 10% overtime and we have delivered the business value 2-3 months ahead of schedule and way under budget ..Actually burning thru the work faster than business can dream it up The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
Dreamcatcher Side Hero Username: Dreamcatcher Post Number: 8745 Registered: 11-2009 Posted From: 208.86.145.68 Rating: N/A |
Dev teams in general are pretty bad communicators. Over confidence kooda konchem ekkuva untadi veella deggara...emina show stopper unna, last minute daaga raise cheyyaru metta candis. What agile does is, it addresses these two issues effectively. Otherwise agree with Jambal kurrod, too much unnecessary noise from junk gang in the team. | ||
Harrytej Junior Artist Username: Harrytej Post Number: 831 Registered: 03-2015 Posted From: 167.137.1.15 Rating: N/A |
Our team moving from WF to Agile in 2 months  | ||
Maharshi Hero Username: Maharshi Post Number: 10224 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 74.113.64.100 Rating: N/A |
+1 okko sari pokiri lo la annnaya ee tokkalo sinna dev ki inni emails & inni meetings endi ani color venakki anuko analani untadi . Vaadu nenu bathakali kabatti danni peddadi ga chudatam tappadu ..eti sestham Maa dantlo QA ki unna process clarity BA ki undadu ..hardly 1-2 developers and 1 qa tho bandi nadipisthunanru 10 members team lo.. Anni sleeper coach bussulu enduku ra bujja ante vinaruuu | ||
Seinfeld Megastar Username: Seinfeld Post Number: 28612 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 108.171.131.187 Rating: N/A |
agile is sollu poo thing for big projects | ||
Enigmatic Junior Artist Username: Enigmatic Post Number: 900 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 100.34.146.253 Rating: N/A |
mee badha naku ardham ayyindi. Some of the companies spend too much energy and focus on processes and its semantics overlooking the fact that they are intended to simplify and streamline your tasks as opposed obstructing you from getting the actual work done. | ||
Asdf Megastar Username: Asdf Post Number: 21389 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: N/A |
+1 also more employment The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave - Hillary is free and Snowden in exile | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6835 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
Paid and survival is not the question. In general, Devs are the second least appreciated, and QAs are the least appreciated, although all of the shicks is got done by them only. "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. | ||
Emc2 Legend Username: Emc2 Post Number: 49923 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 71.127.33.203 Rating: N/A |
agile is nothing but a micromanagement nuvvu eppudo prouction live date ichi thongunte evadu responsible, neeku confidence undochu aadiki undali kada | ||
Enigmatic Junior Artist Username: Enigmatic Post Number: 899 Registered: 11-2010 Posted From: 100.34.146.253 Rating: N/A |
they also need to get paid no.  | ||
Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 6834 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 64.125.177.124 Rating: N/A |
IT Team functioning and process ki yenduku intha fight?? DB lo Damagers, aka Managers yevaraina vunte konchem light veyandi.. No matter what your reasons, explanations, light veyatam etc, IT Teams ki Engg / Devs are the back-bone. The kartha, karma, kriya. Agile lo Dynamic Teams ani cheppi UI/UX Designers, Process Manager, Product Owner, Tech Manager, Resource Manager etc.. intha mandi vuntaar.. Team lo 10 lo, 3 Devs and rest-all noise. Product ayithe build cheyaru kada. Gaali lo ichhe ideas ki substance vundadu kada... Yemaina maattaadithey Requirements laying-down antaar.. saringaa Requirements Clarification question adigithey yevvadki matter teldu.. Do it how best it comes, standard answer... I want this, I want this butterfly effect... nee yabba... adi iOS, nenu chesedi Android.. Apple Features Google ivvali ani guarantee ledu... Chrome ki, IE ki, Safari ki, Netscape ki same HTML page design chesinaa stark differences vuntune vunnayi... Last 2 days nunchi Scrum Master gaadu Team mottaanni Conf Room lo padesi 16 hours each for 14 people dobbettesthunnaad... Process isn't working... Devs / Enggs don't care!!! Give us a Production-Live Date, and we'll get the shicks done!!! "Chill Bro. I told you to let it go!!" - The Budhha. |
