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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 724 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:33 am: |
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Kuyyo_morro: Road mida jarige prathi accident scenario ni they have to write logic taking sides.
whose side do u think car makers will incline? Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |
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Kuyyo_morro
Megastar Username: Kuyyo_morro
Post Number: 22892 Registered: 02-2011 Posted From: 169.133.140.6
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:13 am: |
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Valid point idi. Programming lo binary ga untayi values. if else etc. Road mida jarige prathi accident scenario ni they have to write logic taking sides. |
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Thikka_sankara
Megastar Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 29123 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.220.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:13 am: |
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Bushu:maybe there's some risk but the car will optimize for both.
optimize for both Anna oorukoru....if there is a remote possible scenario where your car favours killing you rather than the other party (as this is boptimized best case scenario) who will be ready to sit inside that car??? When there are so many bad apples, there might be something wrong with the orchard -- reference intended |
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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 722 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:12 am: |
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Heineken:Nyayanga aithe Car lo valla safety kadaa choodali
remember driving is a privelege, as a driver u have no right to kill or damage anyone on roads nor near the roads.... if the car maker makes the algorithm to take the side of the driver...its a wow factor for the buyer...legally n ethically it should be the otherway around... that's why it will be interesting to see how the events will shape up... ofcourse...there will be n number of lawsuits waiting... Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |
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Thikka_sankara
Megastar Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 29122 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.220.226
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:11 am: |
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Altruistic algorithms antaaru....which decide to save people on the road at the expense of those in the vehicle.... Bokka kontaaru alaantivi lol When there are so many bad apples, there might be something wrong with the orchard -- reference intended |
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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 721 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:10 am: |
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Bushu:maybe there's some risk but the car will optimize for both.
how can the algorithm optimise for both...it has to take the call & whose side is it gonna take will be the question to each n every auto-pilot maker & also perhaps they will have to demonstrate it before those kind of cars will hit the road Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |
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Heineken
Side Hero Username: Heineken
Post Number: 3288 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 8.39.118.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:07 am: |
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Speaker:where the algorithm has to take a side? whose side is it gonna take...?
Nyayanga aithe Car lo valla safety kadaa choodali |
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Bushu
Hero Username: Bushu
Post Number: 12627 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 50.252.202.131
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:07 am: |
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Speaker: where the algorithm has to take a side? whose side is it gonna take...?
idhi i-robot lo aa pilla saving scene where a robot has to decide who lives. in what scenario will a car need to make that call? if an accident were to happen, inside or outside both will suffer. with pedestrians, maybe there's some risk but the car will optimize for both. in general though, imagine a world where all are auto pilot cars. each car will be programmed to protect its own and we will see interesting variations. for example, a truck vs a sedan. |
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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 720 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:02 am: |
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Mahesh_fan:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn3dp4VUAAE44eE.jpg:large
too good, in this scenario, it has saved people outside the car...but if it's a more complex scenario - where the algorithm has to take a side? whose side is it gonna take...? Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |
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Digitalspy
Junior Artist Username: Digitalspy
Post Number: 685 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 43.241.122.144
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 10:02 am: |
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why cant they make it open source? then it will be made safer by developor community |
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Mahesh_fan
Megastar Username: Mahesh_fan
Post Number: 21963 Registered: 09-2010 Posted From: 167.219.88.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 09:59 am: |
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today muskio tweeted aa letter. how auto pilot saved pedestrian anandhi .. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn3dp4VUAAE44eE.jpg:large |
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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 719 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 09:33 am: |
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Savyasachi:in this scenario we should prosecute the CEO of the company and stone him to death. khel khatam dukan bandh.
i think this is the only scenario, which is gonna delay the full auto pilot be made available This scenario is not a one-off scenario, such scenarios are experienced by human drivers every day... i'm curious to see what course this issue will take.. Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |
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Savyasachi
Comedian Username: Savyasachi
Post Number: 1183 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 98.230.31.93
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 09:31 am: |
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in this scenario we should prosecute the CEO of the company and stone him to death. khel khatam dukan bandh. |
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Speaker
Junior Artist Username: Speaker
Post Number: 718 Registered: 06-2016 Posted From: 198.103.167.20
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 09:29 am: |
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The biggest question which needs to be asked to the companies making cars which can run on AUTOPILOT 1) In case of life & death scenario to both the passengers in the car and outsiders(pedestrians, people on side walks, people ahead on road) whose side will the software algorithm incline? towards passengers in the car or people outside the car...????? as a human driver, we tend to incline towards the safety of the people in the car vs people outside the car...but what does this algorithm do??? will it take the side of people inside /out??? remember, driving is a privelege..not a right... if the algorithm takes the side of people inside??? considering the safety of the car owner & people inside...it will appeal to the buyers...but will the algorithm take the side of people outside the car..in which case its a letdown for buyers... what will happen if such a case goes to the court of law??? In my opinion this is the biggest hurdle for cars running on auto pilot to be answered before they become completely available.. Brett Lee About Virender Sehwag "No Matter how good and experienced you are, he can kill your attitude" "Sehwag is the Best Player in the world to watch. FEARLESS" - Michael Vaughan |