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Bharateeyudu
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Nisarga:
what is the difference between this god state and not knowing anything or lowest level of conscious or animal like conscious!!!
Simple gaa cheppali ante vuppu ki Karpuraaniki vunde theda
Nisarga:
why do you need a personal god to attain this state!! is this state is what actually ppl who pray to God sought!!!
Definitely not...to reach state of Advaitha personal god vundaalsina avasaramledu...all that is required is "inner purification"... you can do
achieve it by following your "swadharma".. probably that is the reason
why shankara didnt try to change varna system or talked about inequalities in the society then...he believed any one can achieve this state in the society he lived..
In fact ..Shankarabharanam movie lo oka paata vundi..it goes like this..
"Advaitha siddhiki, Amaratva labdhiki gaaname sopaanamu"
This song says to music is one of the way to achieve Advaitha state..!!!
Nisarga:
and this state could easily be attained with with changing the physical condition( brain circuitry or physiology) than other methods.
This I dont know...is it possible??will find it though.. |
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I dont know why the issue of year of birth again came..when most of my earlier posts was about this only because of farmer's comment about buddha hand shaked shankara..
Year of Birth of Shankara is 510 BC if one believes puranic timeline..[ based on various puranas like matsya,bhavishya,bhavishyottara etc.,] and
historians dont accept this time line[ they believe he was born in 788 AD]..but those who believe in puranic time line always challenged orientalists..and based on this puranic time line Buddha belongs to 1887 BC where as orientalists puts him around 568 BC..
Now one can't say they believe shankara was of 510 BC ... but buddha doesnt belong to 1887 BC..because proponents of 510 BC as shankara year of birth
also believe buddha was born in 1887 BC.. One should not mix puranic time line with timeline believed by orientalists and say Shankara must have born before buddha or hand shaked with buddha..
I already mentioned in one of my posts earlier in this thread....this puranic time line ki leader mana telugu historian "kota Venkata chalam".
His version is what Kanchi Kamakoti peetham believes..infact he said what kanchi peetham believes
http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/origin.html#appendix1
Puranic Chronology pai interest vunte...one can check this link...
http://bharatbhumika.blogspot.in/2014/08/puranic-chronology- of-india.html
Sringeri Peetham puts Shankara's timeline to around 14 th year of Vikrama rule who ruled badami in 7th Century AD..
idi Ujjain Vikramaarukudu ani teesukoni around 44BC - 12 BC..ani kondaru vaadana..but Srungeri neither agreed or denied it..but later started to agree Orientalists date that is 7th Century AD..
Some Historians like A D Venkateswara Rao believe Shankara died at the age of 92..saying its "humanly impossible to write so many works" ..
and also cites..."devi aparadha kshama stotram" where shankara mentions he is "85 years old"..
" maya panchAshiteradhikampaneethe tu vayasi "... which means "already 85 years passed in my life.."
For anyone who wants to read Madhava Shankara Vijayam..its in english published by Ramakrishna math ... it is a nice translation of madhava shankara vijayam..which most people say is "best" shankara vijayam..
http://www.estudantedavedanta.net/Sankara-Digvijaya.pdf
In fact after reading this book's introduction I came to know about "abhinava Shankara"... a kanchi seer...who did same things like shankara..i.e., performing digvijaya yaatra and everything...his timeline starts with[788-840 AD] and most people confuse Adi Shankara with him ani !!!! Phew!!!
I guess we need not talk more about shankara's time lines..because I dont think thats important..except when some one raises a "false" allegation.. |
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Anand_n:And no bloodshed either
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Bharateeyudu:327
And no bloodshed either 
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Jujung:3. ultimate reality
simple ga cheppalante .. what is eternal and immortal is the ultimate reality?
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Nisarga:what is the difference between this god state and not knowing anything or lowest level of conscious or animal like conscious!!!
Every living being suffers or struggles in its own way. Ignorance is bliss but that is only a temporary state. Easily distracted by the material world. For example, people living in forests who could never imagine modern luxuries would consider themselves very happy in their way of life. But once they are exposed to the outside world, everything goes south very rapidly till they get accustomed. Unlike ignorance, nirvana would make your feelings impervious to change.
quote:why do you need a personal god to attain this state!! is this state is what actually ppl who pray to God sought!!!
and this state could easily be attained with with changing the physical condition( brain circuitry or physiology) than other methods.
A personal god is only a pitstop on one of the suggested ways. It's certainly neither necessary nor sufficient. Can we alter the circuit to induce any knowledge into the brain? Like riding a bicycle, playing an instrument, solving complex math etc? When science learns how to do this, may be this software can also be uploaded. But what's the fun in that?
quote:more over what is ultimate reality!! is it actually a logically consistent concept. is not every state a reality!!
Ultimate reality, per advaita, is the idea that there is no real distinction between any thing and any one and that everything and everyone is the same. Of course every state we experience is a reality - but there are various levels to this:
1. reality based on imagination or that constructed by your mind: illusions, etc. Real enough to the person experiencing it at that moment.
2. practical reality: that which we observe everyday. In this reality, there are multiple beings, material world, etc
3. ultimate reality
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Nisarga:
what is the difference between this god state and not knowing anything or lowest level of conscious or animal like conscious!!!
There is an adage that says you get there after you unlearn everything you have been taught ..At a practical level - I think it is acquiring the ability to distance yourself from the circumstance, consider and act not just react ..
Why do you need a personal God for that ?
I do not think it is a requirement... Buddha did not need one
Is that what people pray for ...
I personally think people pray for what they aspire for -material rewards, peace of mind , or liberation(moksha) because they have been taught it is the goal of the soul and escape from the sorrows of the world
Can it be contrived thru other means?
I suspect it can ..but from all accounts it is either way a transitory experience ...
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Jujung:Selfishness/selflessness are inappropriate categories to explain nirvana or becoming God per upanishads. The basic idea is that god is defined as one who realized the "ultimate reality" - not just as a sermon but through experience gained via bhakthi/action/knowledge etc. That ultimate reality being that everyone and everything is one and the same. Your experiences of sorrow happiness birth death etc are all just maaya. To the extent that you have not yet completely realized this ultimate reality you will continue to experience them. Once you realize it, you'd be unaffected by anything and hence would become a nirguna brahma. It is a tautology in effect.
what is the difference between this god state and not knowing anything or lowest level of conscious or animal like conscious!!!
why do you need a personal god to attain this state!! is this state is what actually ppl who pray to God sought!!!
and this state could easily be attained with with changing the physical condition( brain circuitry or physiology) than other methods.
more over what is ultimate reality!! is it actually a logically consistent concept. is not every state a reality!! |
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Gandhiguevara:Howdy
Doing ok - recovering from the Spurs loss and trying to come to terms with impending retirement of Duncan 
How r u ?
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Anand_n:
swamy anandananda ... Howdy |
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Ishan:That's impossible
I gave the citation below, not sure why T Subba Row came to that position - In any case that history or his personal status(God or not) does not particularly interest me...only interested in his writing
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topic senthaadu antha vundhi, matter ee matti burraki ekkettu ledhu
kaanee ee time lo ee image baahaa suit ayyettu undhi sumee
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Ishan:only agreed upon schools of thought that existed before Sankara
Correction - I meant 'before Budha'
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Anand_n:
Timelines are not that clear - there are some accounts which say Sankara predates Buddha!
That's impossible, because Sankara and his gurus clearly referred budhism and budhistic works in their own texts. Budha was born 1000 years before Sankara. The only agreed upon schools of thought that existed before Sankara were Brahman centered upanishads, Carvakas and Brahmanas. He found the balance-point among all these three thoughts and formulated his theories.
Farmer:interested in knowing how he practiced and lived it.
Through Sanyasa, vairagya and Jnana yoga, in that order. He started his life as a regular brahmin kid learning Vedas at early age, but his guru Govinda's guru Gaudapada who was the actual 'discoverer', if I may, of advaitha had a huge influence on his thoughts and inspired him to take sannyasa...wandered throughout the country to test and experience his absolutist beliefs...reflected his experiences...rejected anything that is unreal through neti-neti (Jnana yoga)...and died as a yogi.
Jujung:Selfishness/selflessness are inappropriate categories to explain nirvana or becoming God per upanishads. The basic idea is that god is defined as one who realized the "ultimate reality" - not just as a sermon but through experience gained via bhakthi/action/knowledge etc. That ultimate reality being that everyone and everything is one and the same. Your experiences of sorrow happiness birth death etc are all just maaya. To the extent that you have not yet completely realized this ultimate reality you will continue to experience them. Once you realize it, you'd be unaffected by anything and hence would become a nirguna brahma. It is a tautology in effect.
Good post!
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Chirutha_puli:In india as brahmins were more powerful at that time and did not let buddhism overtake hinduism.
equating hinduism and Brahmins...
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Buddha esires are root cause for all sorrows.
Adishankara:Advaitha .(No dual).It means God is with in you.Everything in the universe is part of God.He creates everything.Everything is within god.This is basically from Geetha.He tried to explain Vedanta to everybody.
What buddha preached is how to live happily but what adishankara try to explain is eveybody is part of god.All are one.
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Chirutha_puli:I think BUDDHA is more influential than adi shankara.World wise everybody knows Buddha than adi shankara.any comman man can understands buddha's teachings or philosophy but Adishankara's philosophy is bit complex and comman man cannot understand it easily.
https://www.quora.com/How-did-Adi-Shankara-defeat-Buddhist-m onks-in-India
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I think BUDDHA is more influential than adi shankara.World wise everybody knows Buddha than adi shankara.any comman man can understands buddha's teachings or philosophy but Adishankara's philosophy is bit complex and comman man cannot understand it easily. |
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Jujung:
a human becoming God through realizationis a bottom up process... From imperfection to perfection ..And is by no means perfection all the way ..
Where as the concept of an avatar of God is a top down approach ..it is perfection all the way or perfection to frailties and then back
And there is a huge difference in general perception of the two -
people who believe the first will allow for human mistakes, for the learning and progression of the person in question
On the other hand, the second belief lends to more myths and superpowers being attributed To the avatar - and more ''word of God' sanctity attributed too
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https://youtu.be/WgLfwSSeyM8
Is this song a critism of vedantam?
I think it's a valid criticism of at least the practice if not the theory.
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Sufi master Mansur Al-Hallaj gurinchi evaranna innaraaaa.... he was executed for blasphemy for uttering "I am the Truth" while having a mystic experience ..... he was laughing in ecstacy while people tortured him to death... interesting story |
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Selfishness/selflessness are inappropriate categories to explain nirvana or becoming God per upanishads. The basic idea is that god is defined as one who realized the "ultimate reality" - not just as a sermon but through experience gained via bhakthi/action/knowledge etc. That ultimate reality being that everyone and everything is one and the same. Your experiences of sorrow happiness birth death etc are all just maaya. To the extent that you have not yet completely realized this ultimate reality you will continue to experience them. Once you realize it, you'd be unaffected by anything and hence would become a nirguna brahma. It is a tautology in effect.
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Musicfan:The dates regarding budha are so confusing as the range is too much, some say in 500BC, some even in 700BC.
But one thing for sure is Adi Sankara was born much later than Budha.. Both are not in same timelines.
Yes and so are dates of Sankara - actually the book I am reading has notes on the dates from the writings of T.Subba Row... That put Sankara's birth about 510 BC and ends with and I quote "there is every reason to suppose that he lived before Buddha"
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Ishan:
Ishan bhayya
Me venu
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Ishan:Similarly, sankara who was a brahmachari followed the same unselfish path through sanyasa, vairagya and Jnana. If a man attains true liberation and merges with the supreme, why can't he be god? If you throw the water in a bucket into the ocean, can you separate that water from the ocean? It is part of the ocean now...nah...it IS the ocean...so I personally don't see anything wrong in calling Sankara a god...but again I am a believer of Advaitha...I can call vivekananda a god too...am I committing a blasphemy? If yes why? What is the difference between Rama and Vivekananda?
wah wah wah .. such subtle but masterful explanation of the principle of Advaitha .. Sankara will be happy with your "tarka" ..
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Ishan:Assuming that you are new to this DB, a section of this DB is hardcore pro-budhistic for whatever arguable reasons. Like many budhists outside, it's irksome for some whenever sankara is glorified simply for the fact that he was directly responsible for the ouster of budhism from India...though he never intended it... he logically won the arguments which promoted them to recede. Sankara's philosophy made sense to many and got popular.
amazing bro .. u should post more often .. I (and many others in the DB) miss reading your views!!
Farmer:Generally, people that have "pro-budhistic" views here or elsewhere, are either atheistic or agnostic...and buddhism being an atheistic religion, their philosophy makes more sense to those people....
oxymoron ki classify avvocha?
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Cocanada:boyapati cinema lo kamal haasan laa
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Bharateeyudu:nannu andaru milk boy antaaru telusaa!!! :p
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Cocanada:ante.. appati daaka pai botham teesesi lungi lu paiki kattukunna janaalu...ventane chokka bothaalu pettesi side paapidi teeskune laa chestaaru
Bharateeyudu:
maam delete that kameshwara rao word...nenu manchodini
 coke was right Have a good weekend !
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Whyme:abba chaa
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Bharateeyudu:maam delete that kameshwara rao word...nenu manchodi
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@anand_n anand nirmal ante..abbayi anukunnane....anavasaramgaaa..pichchigaa maatlaada..
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Anand_n:
Lol - sudden ok, explain the shocking part please
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Cocanada:meeru eppudu sudden and shocking entry istaaru
boyapati cinema lo kamal haasan laa
Lol - sudden ok, explain the shocking part please
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Anand_n:
meeru eppudu sudden and shocking entry istaaru
boyapati cinema lo kamal haasan laa |
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Ishan:but Sankara expanded and popularized it, but most importantly practiced it, and lived it.
agreed with popularized it.....interested in knowing how he practiced and lived it....if u care to explain |
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Ishan:Assuming that you are new to this DB, a section of this DB is hardcore pro-budhistic for whatever arguable reasons. Like many budhists outside, it's irksome for some whenever sankara is glorified simply for the fact that he was directly responsible for the ouster of budhism from India...though he never intended it... he logically won the arguments which promoted them to recede. Sankara's philosophy made sense to many and got popular.
hehehe....antha scene ledhu...probably your umagination/impression....i don't think the people that you have mentioned about care much about what religion flourished in India, before Shankara....Generally, people that have "pro-budhistic" views here or elsewhere, are either atheistic or agnostic...and buddhism being an atheistic religion, their philosophy makes more sense to those people.... |
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Anand_n:Timelines are not that clear - there are some accounts which say Sankara predates Buddha!
Never heard this sis, Adi Sankaracharya was definitely after Buddha and Mahavir Jain. Both Buddhism and Jainism were flourishing before Sankara |
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wiki
490 bc
820 ad ani septondi ante 1300 years gap |
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Musicfan:You are right, It was other way round..
adi shankara 9th century
budha bc 390 something ani sadiva iddariki oka 1000 years gap |
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Chillarodu:
You are right, It was other way round..
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Musicfan:Buddha around 400BC, some say he left the body around 411BC
Adi Shankara around 780 - 800 BC.
Musicfan:But one thing for sure is Adi Sankara was born much later than Budha.
800 BC is before 400 BC. No? |
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Ishan:.I can call vivekananda a god too...am I committing a blasphemy? If yes why? What is the difference between Rama and Vivekananda?
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Anand_n:Timelines are not that clear - there are some accounts which say Sankara predates Buddha!
Some timelines I am aware which I believe might be true is
Buddha around 400BC, some say he left the body around 411BC
Adi Shankara around 780 - 800 BC. Ramanujacharya in 1020-1040 BC Madhvacharya around 1210-1230.. ( only birth year somewhere in that range )
The dates regarding budha are so confusing as the range is too much, some say in 500BC, some even in 700BC.
But one thing for sure is Adi Sankara was born much later than Budha.. Both are not in same timelines.
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Ishan:
Timelines are not that clear - there are some accounts which say Sankara predates Buddha!
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Bharateeyudu:
Agree with you on that ! I think Sankara's target audience for both compositions I mentioned was based on the prevailing social norms - depending on who had access to the knowledge, the teachers and the option of pursuing the path...it may not have been his prescription, but he did not challenge the status quo either .. It probably does not register for you guys reading them, but being a woman I notice these things
I do not have the chronology of his compositions but did he compose Dakshinamurthy stotram and Vivekachudamani before or after the Mandanamishra debate .. If it is before it is possible he changed his mind, if it's after, the generalization is conflicting
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friday saayantram..nunchi...nenu kameswara rao avathaaram ethuthaanu..andukani indulo participate cheyyatledu..but I will bump this thread..
@ anand_n
Women and shankara.. one must not forget the debate between Madana mishra and Shankara..Udaya Bharathi as judge is shankara's choice..ante ema ardham avtondi.. women status gurinchi.. ?? and shankara's respect about women gurinchi... and did you read Adi shankara's "mAtHru stuthi/ panchakam"..
teliyani vallaki maathru panchakam link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkKOzQzYtA
but haa every women need not be Udaya bharati because Mandana mishra's parrot also recites vedaas!!..
Inka viveka chudamani lo 2nd poem lo first line ilaa vuntundi..
jantunAm narajnama durlabhamatah punstavam tatho viprataaa ani
if a feminist ••• casteist reads this line...he/she will say brand shankara
endukante.. this the meaning manushya janma labhinchadam chaala kashtam.. manushi gaa janminchinaa... andunaapurusha sharira prapti inka durlabham...ee purusha shariramu labhinchina..brahmanudigaa puttadam inka durlabham
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Bharateeyudu:
Assuming that you are new to this DB, a section of this DB is hardcore pro-budhistic for whatever arguable reasons. Like many budhists outside, it's irksome for some whenever sankara is glorified simply for the fact that he was directly responsible for the ouster of budhism from India...though he never intended it... he logically won the arguments which promoted them to recede. Sankara's philosophy made sense to many and got popular.
Advaita philosophy is an interpretation of Upanishads. The concept, however abstract it might be, was there in the Upanishads originally, but Sankara expanded and popularized it, but most importantly practiced it, and lived it. Even Gita is an interpretation of Upanishads. None of the sayings in Gita are totally original because the concepts were already there in Upanishads, and Krishna, just like Sankara, popularized the ideas. There were many such other interpretations including Brahmasutras of Badarayana etc.
Is Sankara god? Well who is god? What are his/her qualifications? For a dualist, god sits in vaikunta or kailasa creates and rules the universe...and they are the only gods and it's a blasphemy if any other person is called as god, especially a human. But for an advaitist, human being is the ultimate god...human being is superior to all mythical gandharvas, suras, kinnera kimpurushas etc. Only human being can attain that ultimate self-realization, and thus can become a god. Popular opinion says Rama was an incarnation of Vishnu...but according to an advaithin, Rama was born as a human and attained the status of god by following unselfish path at each and every step of his life. Similarly, sankara who was a brahmachari followed the same unselfish path through sanyasa, vairagya and Jnana. If a man attains true liberation and merges with the supreme, why can't he be god? If you throw the water in a bucket into the ocean, can you separate that water from the ocean? It is part of the ocean now...nah...it IS the ocean...so I personally don't see anything wrong in calling Sankara a god...but again I am a believer of Advaitha...I can call vivekananda a god too...am I committing a blasphemy? If yes why? What is the difference between Rama and Vivekananda?
One more thing people often overlook is that Sankara is not called god because he 'invented', propounded and preached advaitha...he is called god because he practiced advaitha and attained liberation...till the end of his life...this is definitely acceptable as per Upanishads.
Calling politicians, actors, cricketers as gods on the other hand though...
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Srichaganti lo ee link undi
http://media1.srichaganti.net/books/DakshinaMurthyStotram.pd f
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Anand_n: the author does a good job of explaining the sandhi , Samasa used in the composition
yes...this is what I am interested in..
thanks for the link..
wish we had all of them broken down to this level..so that people just don't go by the interpretation..which is the version of the translator..and sometimes may be off ..like for the Stree Bala example..where I agree with your interpretation |
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Rajusk:
You should read it - especially part 3 the actual stotram - the author does a good job of explaining the sandhi , Samasa used in the composition
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Anand_n:
113 pages ani first few pages choosi aagipoya
just scrolled down now from page 52 onwards..there is meaning looks like..
I wanted the breakdown of Sanskrit words..more as a student of the language |
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Bala ji ante ammavaru not Venky antaru. Female not male god. Bala is girl, ji anedi Hindi word add ayindi out of respect due to popularity from hindi people. |
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Maverick:stree bala is used for girl child..not stree, bala (woman, children)
translation lo mistake anukonta rao garu..
I am only checking the translation part..not the intention of usage..
I believe in that usage..he meant, Stree, Bala etc
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Maverick:
Let's agree to disagree on the interpretation .. I think people generally have a distinction between how they view goddesses and how they view women's role in society so no use in projecting one view to the other
and no I did not read Subrahmanya Bhujangam - why do you ask ?
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Anand_n:
Your version chose to combine streebala - I do not think that is an accurate conjugation - girl child ii more commonly referred to as Kanya, have not heard streeBala usage ... Could be a limitation of my exposure and may be wrong but I think that is just political correctness coming in
one who wrote kanakadhara stotram, belittles woman? i don't think so.
btw, have you heard/read subramanya bhujangam?
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Maverick:
Your version chose to combine streebala - I do not think that is an accurate conjugation - girl child ii more commonly referred to as Kanya, have not heard streeBala usage ... Could be a limitation of my exposure and may be wrong but I think that is just political correctness coming in
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Musicfan:
aa article lo rasindi ade gaa, at the same time blind, children, valla gurinchi kooda itlaa annarenti anochu,, as per discrimination..
You missed my point literature provides insights into the social structure and conditions of the time it was composed..that post was for people who subscribe to the 'nationalist' viewpoint
Btw adi article kadu - it's a complete word by word translation and commentary of the stotram - I like the Arsha gurukulam publications and Swami Dayananda's style of teaching!
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stree bala is used for girl child..not stree, bala (woman, children)..stree bala ani enduku specific ga use chesaru ante girl childs didnt have education, they learnt as they grew where as boy child had education.
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Anand_n:but his compositions explicitly exclude women from the learning/ pursuit of enlightenment...
Maverick:
5.1: Those who Consider the Body or Prana (Vital Force) or Sense Organs or the Changing Mind or the Void (Total Non-Existence) ...
5.2: ... as the "I", are Like a Naive Innocent Girl Child, or a Blind, or a Dull-Headed; they are Deluded but they Vehemently Assert their Points,
i dont see a connection.
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Anand_n:Verse 5 - deham pranam api
Line 2 Stri Balaandhajada...
where does it talk about exclusion of woman?
Deham Praannam-Api-Indriyaanny-Api Calaam Buddhim Ca Shuunyam Viduh
Strii-Baala-Andha-Jaddo(a-U)pamaas-tv[u-]Aham-Iti Bhraantaa Bhrsham Vaadinah |
Maayaa-Shakti-Vilaasa-Kalpita-Mahaa-Vyaamoha-Samhaarinne
Tasmai Shrii-Guru-Muurtaye Nama Idam Shrii-Dakssinnaamuurtaye ||5||
Meaning:
(Salutations to Sri Dakshinamurthy Who Awakens the Glory of the Atman within us through His Profound Silence)
5.1: Those who Consider the Body or Prana (Vital Force) or Sense Organs or the Changing Mind or the Void (Total Non-Existence) ...
5.2: ... as the "I", are Like a Naive Innocent Girl Child, or a Blind, or a Dull-Headed; they are Deluded but they Vehemently Assert their Points,
5.3: The Inner Guru Destroys this Great Delusion Created by the Play of the Power of Maya,
5.4: Salutations to Him, the Personification of Our Inner Guru Who Awakens This Knowledge through His Profound Silence; Salutation to Sri Dakshinamurthy.
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Anand_n:Don't get me wrong - Sankara wrote based on the prevailing social balance at the time
aa article lo rasindi ade gaa, at the same time blind, children, valla gurinchi kooda itlaa annarenti anochu,, as per discrimination..
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Nihil:
Page 79 in the link I gave ..
Verse 5 - deham pranam api
Line 2 Stri Balaandhajada...
Don't get me wrong - Sankara wrote based on the prevailing social balance at the time and it does not detract any from his writing
It is more of the so called nationalist view that I questioned
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Anand_n:There is likely a lot of people reading the thread and while some may be cynical there might be others who are interested in the links posted - so why are you discouraging posting the links ? What is your fear/motive ?
Thanks to Internet a lot more people have access to the texts than ever - and thanks to the intelligence given by the creator they have the ability to evaluate, rationalize, differentiate and choose what and who to believe and or follow...
My intention is not to give pain to those vehemently cynical people .. by sharing links they have downgraded ..
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Anand_n:
Dakshinamurthy stotram lo ekkada vundi asalu women gurinchi ?? which verse and line .. can u give me a reference ?
It is complete nirgunopasana except the last one "bhoorambaamsya" mentioning ashtaroopa.
First time women,exclusion gurinchi vintunna shakara gurinchi...adi kooda dakshinamurthy stotram ref ga.. hmmm. |
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I have a question for the scholars here - many nationalists have claimed women had access to scriptures etc and women were pushed behind doors in India as a result of Mughal invasions ..
Sankara predates Mughals but his compositions explicitly exclude women from the learning/ pursuit of enlightenment... Both in Vivekachudamani and Dakshinamurthy sto tram ..Why is that ?
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Tilak:enduku le .. they are not worth it ani certify chesesaru kada pungavulu ..
Your attitude/tone is surprising considering your interest in these texts..
There is likely a lot of people reading the thread and while some may be cynical there might be others who are interested in the links posted - so why are you discouraging posting the links ? What is your fear/motive ?
Thanks to Internet a lot more people have access to the texts than ever - and thanks to the intelligence given by the creator they have the ability to evaluate, rationalize, differentiate and choose what and who to believe and or follow...
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Kingaa_bongaa:who? where?
Nihil and EMC2 posts choodaleda .. at the start of the thread?
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Tilak:enduku le .. they are not worth it ani certify chesesaru kada pungavulu ..
who? where?
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Kingaa_bongaa:http://in.kamakoti.org
enduku le .. they are not worth it ani certify chesesaru kada pungavulu ..
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http://in.kamakoti.org
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Bharateeyudu:what does it mean..
ceylon subbarao (kanaka mahalakshmi rec) lonchi ceylon teesukunna
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Siloan:ABVP slogan : Haindavudi la jeevinchu
hey prati user id ki oka ardham vuntundi..needi maatram ardham eppudu kaale..search kuda chesa...siloan ante enti..siloam vachindi kaani...siloan raaledu..
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Suyodhan:inthaki conclusion enti....
asalu opinion tho modalu aithe kada conclude cheyyadaaniki... eppudu taadu archive aithe..ade conclusion... |
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Suyodhan:inthaki conclusion enti....
sirobaram navaratna tailam |
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ABVP slogan : Haindavudi la jeevinchu |
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inthaki conclusion enti....
Adi Shankar = NTR ani telchaara ledaa.... |
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Kingaa_bongaa:how? I though u r in bengaloor? Kaladi is 45 minutes maybe from Cochin.
i ment in laws place. chala frequent ga velthunta. andhuke my place anesa.
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Sasibabu:
ninna 2 gifts pampa.. soosava.. buddod sooper... |
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Diviseema:45 mins from my place.
how? I though u r in bengaloor? Kaladi is 45 minutes maybe from Cochin.
Bharateeyudu:4 vedaalu..vedaangaalu..samhita..brahmanas[20]...Aranyakas[6] 108 upanishads...6 darshanaalu ..6 angaalu..bramhasutras..18 purana..18 upapuranas..ithihasa[Ramayana, Mahabharatha]..and oka 10 geethalu vunnayi..[ siva geetha,bhagavad geetha,ashtavakra geetha, vuddhava geetha..etc.,].. aagamas[100 ki paina vunnayi] ..
good job thamuduu, nee ID ki thaggattu nee knowledge.
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Sasibabu:
hey.. vuncle.. where are you... we missed you dearly... |
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Diviseema:my place.
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Kingaa_bongaa:Also, anyone visited Kaladi in Kerala? his native/birth place.
45 mins from my place.
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Kingaa_bongaa:baaaaagaaaaa research chesinollu evarainaa, sankarudi death place edho cheppandi kedarnath antaaru, or kancheepuram, or kerala antaaru.
Also, anyone visited Kaladi in Kerala? his native/birth place.
kedarnath..samadhi is there...recent floods ki motham destroyed.. |
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Kingaa_bongaa:Okka sankarudi works chadivi thelsukuni ardham cheskodaaniki mana life time saripodhu. think about ALL the works by ALL people begining from Vedas, its not an ocean, its as big as this universe. so I have enourmous respect on our culture. theen emma oka bookku pattukuni mana meedhaki vasthaaru, and sickularism peru tho vallaki support manollu.
Nee kosam
4 vedaalu..vedaangaalu..samhita..brahmanas[20]...Aranyakas[6] 108 upanishads...6 darshanaalu ..6 angaalu..bramhasutras..18 purana..18 upapuranas..ithihasa[Ramayana, Mahabharatha]..and oka 10 geethalu vunnayi..[ siva geetha,bhagavad geetha,ashtavakra geetha, vuddhava geetha..etc.,].. aagamas[100 ki paina vunnayi] ..
veeti taruvaatha ..Adi Shankaras works.. and other famous people works lik Ramanuja etc... hahaha |
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baaaaagaaaaa research chesinollu evarainaa, sankarudi death place edho cheppandi kedarnath antaaru, or kancheepuram, or kerala antaaru.
Also, anyone visited Kaladi in Kerala? his native/birth place.
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adhigo malli
Kingaa_bongaa:manam evarnee kelakam,
idhi baane vundhi
Kingaa_bongaa:kelikithe oorukomu
idhe problem according to shankara ... |
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Sasibabu:why should we / god care about these things which are not even a drop worth in a big ocean
manam evarnee kelakam, kelikithe oorukomu (generally whats happening in India context lo), oogipothuu postlu vesthaam anthe , Jr Ntr style lo saduvko. anyway I will stop here. Jai Adi Sankara.
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Sasibabu:meelo madha maathsaryaalu karaala nruthyam chesaayi
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Kingaa_bongaa:think about ALL the works by ALL people begining from Vedas, its not an ocean, its as big as this universe. so I have enourmous respect on our culture.
intha varaku baane vundhi jee ... kaani OUR ane oka adjective tho neelo ahamkaaram moham molakethaayi ...aa next ee sentence tho
Kingaa_bongaa:theen emma oka bookku pattukuni mana meedhaki vasthaaru,
meelo madha maathsaryaalu karaala nruthyam chesaayi
why should we / god care about these things which are not even a drop worth in a big ocean  |
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Sasibabu:
follow this movie...its in sanskrit but subtitles are there...
part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZF6ZZgwn6s
part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blg5bKmaFX4 |
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Musicfan:to start with watch the old saskrit version of Adi sankara with sub titles.
idhi kooda try chesaa gurujee....baagaa cheekati gaa vundhi and sanskrit lo conversion konchem kyamedy gaa anipinchi sarigga concentrate cheyalekapoyaa  |
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Okka sankarudi works chadivi thelsukuni ardham cheskodaaniki mana life time saripodhu. think about ALL the works by ALL people begining from Vedas, its not an ocean, its as big as this universe. so I have enourmous respect on our culture. theen emma oka bookku pattukuni mana meedhaki vasthaaru, and sickularism peru tho vallaki support manollu.
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Sasibabu:aa bhairavi kurrodi cinema lo content kante magic meedha ekkuva concentrate chesaadu ..... andhuke searching for true shankara
to start with watch the old saskrit version of Adi sankara with sub titles. Then listen to chaganti garu, he magnifies him a lot as he thoroughly enjoyed the works of Sankara, being a well knowledgeable person, he was able to understand the depth in works of Sankara, So there will be more praises. he at one point says one is not worth of being human if they criticize Adi sankara given the resources he gave to mankind.
Then you can read each work that influences you, be it bhajagovindam, soundaryalahari, nirvanashatakam, dakshinamurthy or viveka choodamani..
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and manisha panchakam was recited in Varanasi...after his education is completed with Govinda paada..and attained "bramhagnana"..Govinda pada asked him to write bhasyas to bramhasutras in Kaasi...
The situation is actually tricky... one can think that may be shiva wanted to test shankara because he felt inka motham bramhajnanam abba ledu shankaruduki ani...
thats when situation arrives..when shankara's disciples ask chandala..eduru raaku pakkaku jarugu ani...
Chandala asks evaru jaragaali..."chaitanyananna"..leka annamaya maina ee dehama..thats the second time he gets enlighted..he recites ..manisha panchakam..a master piece... |
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Shankarudi gurinchi naa quest eppatnundo vundhi....endhuko thelavadhu gaani aa nirvana sathakam by shankara baagaa guchukundhi .... that too at the age of 8 years aa sthothram ....aa gnaanam ante ... aayana gurinchi chaalaa thelusukovaalani vundhi.... aa bhairavi kurrodi cinema lo content kante magic meedha ekkuva concentrate chesaadu ..... andhuke searching for true shankara |
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Raman: asala 30 years ki antha gnanam ela sampadinchado ??
divine intervention. karanajanmudu.
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shankara is not a god..dont make him a god...let him be a extraordinary human being..
Atma shatakam was recited by shankara when govinda pada asked him " who are you".. Olden days lo guruvulu andarini shishyulu gaa cherchukoru..atani capability ni chusi cherchukuntaaru...Shankara is in search of a guru who will make him experience Bramagnana...Bramhagnana theory veru experiencing veru..vudaharana ki bramhagnanam ante enti ani nannu ippudu adigithe I will show him "Bramhgnanavali mala" antha maatram chetha am I experienced..certainly not...
Same thing happened with Shankara...When guru asked " Who are you"...then answer is a theory of Bramhagnana.. anthe.. |
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Sasibabu:Thanks for the Link jee
sure. ee videos/audios aithe easy. drive lo kooda vinochu, books ante kashtam. ofcoure peddayana cheppevi konni vadilesi manaki kavalsindhi vinatame.
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Siloan:
emundhi mayya....too much routine ayipolaa db ...BL akkai same pisukudu ... Raman thatha same nasugudu ... Pavala kurrodi same gokudu ... Arjunaa peekudu... Samaram bambola jamba .... routine ayipoyindhi mayya .... edhanna kotha vishayaalu vuntene disc loki entering.... lepothe nothing doing ani decided ...  |
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Musicfan:
Gurujee |
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Sasibabu:
maaayya...botthiga nalla poosa aipoyaav.. |
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adi shankara demudo kado kaani world history ni prabhavitam chesadu india unikikni kapadadu atanu lekunte hinduism revive ayyedi kadu total ga india india laga undedi kadu .. asala 30 years ki antha gnanam ela sampadinchado ?? |
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Kingaa_bongaa:http://telugu.srichaganti.net/SankaracharyaJeevitham.aspx
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Tilak:but I did not know he composed that when he was at 8 and was searching for a Guru .. btw .. if he was Siva Himself and was already there .. was there a need for a guru?
Krishna knowing himself as God had a guru. But I guess whether Shankaracharya himself is god or amsa of god probably not as relevant as he being a Guru, which is clear from his works. And the perception is that being Guru would not talk anything that he wouldn't know and unless he practices it. Timeline/Chronology was a question which we cannot confirm, but the answer to the question posed is something looking logical..
Farmer:where that untoucahble man raises a few points that are rather consistent with advaita..
I am not sure about which came first manisha panchakam which was the answer to untouchable or nirvanashatakam. Because, if the later came first, the untouchable story doesn't correlate. From both works, it makes sense that manisha panchakam would have come first then the nirvanashatakam.
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Mario_puzo:buddhism ki marketing mana gmr volle da......bangaru usha rani ki chesinattu buddhism ki baga sponsor chesaru......
brahminijm ki opposite ga buddha dorikadu merchant caste ki......part of fawar faalitiks
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Siloan:buddha ni enduku testunnar comparison loki? jesht curious da
buddhism ki marketing mana gmr volle da......bangaru usha rani ki chesinattu buddhism ki baga sponsor chesaru......
brahminijm ki opposite ga buddha dorikadu merchant caste ki......part of fawar faalitiks |
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Farmer:unlike Buddha, he did not reject the vedas.....
IMO .. no "guru" with a concern for the world/society can be an absolute nihilist .. even as far as my understanding is .. Buddha did not reject the content of vedas and infact admired upanishads, derived from Vedas, and customized them to those times ..
Farmer:so, he said "na mantro na theertham na veda na yajnam"...but he continued to practise and encourage all of those.....
My understanding is .. he did all yagnas etc during his initial years .. and finally when he is attaining moksha .. I am thinking he said the "Na mantro" etc etc .. I could be wrong on the chronology ..
Musicfan:final gaa ante?? this was believe to be said at the age of 8, when he was wandering in search of his Guru, was asked who is he? The response was in those 6 stanzas, which each stanza ends with chidananda rupaha, sivo aham sivo aham ( sivoham) He didn't evolve to be getting there..He was right there already..
depends on the narrative .. if we believe Sankara was none other Lord Siva himself .. yes .. he was right there .. if we believe Sankara was a blessed avatara of Siva to rescue India/humanity .. then he could have "evolved" ..
but I did not know he composed that when he was at 8 and was searching for a Guru .. btw .. if he was Siva Himself and was already there .. was there a need for a guru?
yes .. regarding the temples .. Kanchi temple, Jogulamba temple, Kamakhya temple .. so many temples are associated with Adi Sankara ..
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Nice:Thanks brother. Nizamgaane telusukovalasinavi chaala ante chaaala unnayi. Telusukuni pillalaki chakkaga stories laaga chepthe vallu enjoy chestaru along with gaining knowledge
http://telugu.srichaganti.net/SankaracharyaJeevitham.aspx
you may want to start here.
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Musicfan:He didn't evolve to be getting there..He was right there already..
he didn't evolve there....he was there already...hmmm....interesting....
what are your thoughts on shankara's discussion with a chandala?...i'm sure you know the story better than me....A grown up shankara, while returning from a river/lake after a bath... runs into a chandala with four dogs....and abuses him to get ouf his way, as he is of low varna.....and then the interesting conversation between them...where that untoucahble man raises a few points that are rather consistent with advaita.. |
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Musicfan:that is correct, he did not reject Vedas.
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Farmer:he did not reject the vedas.....is that right?
that is correct, he did not reject Vedas.
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Siloan:buddha ni enduku testunnar comparison loki? jesht curious da
no comparison...just asking if he rejected vedas or not....naa post lo "unlike Buddha" words ni delete chesi, answer cheyyochu question |
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Siloan:buddha ni enduku testunnar comparison loki? jesht curious da
advaita philosophy copied budha teachings ani debate |
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Farmer:
buddha ni enduku testunnar comparison loki? jesht curious da |
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Gandhiguevara:Yentee gola
shankar dada mbbs....uhh haaa uhh haaa |
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Tilak:"na mantro" ki final ga evolve ayyaremo bcoz it comes only in Nirvana/Atma Sakshatkara satakam
final gaa ante?? this was believe to be said at the age of 8, when he was wandering in search of his Guru, was asked who is he? The response was in those 6 stanzas, which each stanza ends with chidananda rupaha, sivo aham sivo aham ( sivoham) He didn't evolve to be getting there..He was right there already..
It is believed that he took away the power from some of the forms of Lords idols so that normal human beings to be able to see it and put that power into those chakras.. The Lords when took those forms were too much to handle by ordinary persons, for example Kanchi temple. Now cannot say whether it is possible, but seems to be chakras are there and the forms are seen without any problems by normal people.. That much can be confirmed.
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Tilak:"na mantro" ki final ga evolve ayyaremo bcoz it comes only in Nirvana/Atma Sakshatkara satakam .. but initial ga aithe he did all the "religious rituals" ane anukuntunna .. I will tell you why I say that .. bcoz he composed several mantras/slokas .. with Beejaksharas .. alage .. you go to many prominent temples/Sakthi Peetas/Jyothirlingas/Chardhaam/Mathas in India .. the legend is usually Sankara was there, "installed a Sri Chakra" etc .. which are a continuation of Veda and Yagna processes and if I am not wrong, actually involve performing Yagna and what are Yagnas without Vedas? so .. to reach where Sankara reached .. the route to Nirvana is to follow the "Jagadguru" .. anedi naa idea ..
ohhh wonderful....that's what I thought...so, he said "na mantro na theertham na veda na yajnam"...but he continued to practise and encourage all of those.....and to be more precise, unlike Buddha, he did not reject the vedas.....is that right? |
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Yentee gola |
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Farmer:na mantro na theertham na veda na yajnam....na prasadumm dumm
"na mantro" ki final ga evolve ayyaremo bcoz it comes only in Nirvana/Atma Sakshatkara satakam .. but initial ga aithe he did all the "religious rituals" ane anukuntunna .. I will tell you why I say that .. bcoz he composed several mantras/slokas .. with Beejaksharas .. alage .. you go to many prominent temples/Sakthi Peetas/Jyothirlingas/Chardhaam/Mathas in India .. the legend is usually Sankara was there, "installed a Sri Chakra" etc .. which are a continuation of Veda and Yagna processes and if I am not wrong, actually involve performing Yagna and what are Yagnas without Vedas? so .. to reach where Sankara reached .. the route to Nirvana is to follow the "Jagadguru" .. anedi naa idea ..
selavu .. pani unnadi ..
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evari nammakamu valladhi. history lo eppudo jarini vatiki scientific evidence vundalani anukotamu moorkhatvamu considering science is till evolving.
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Tilak:plz define ..
na mantro na theertham na veda na yajnam....na prasadumm dumm |
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Farmer:religious rituals?
plz define ..
Farmer:"aham brahmasmi" anamaata...atma sathakam saaraamsam....good...
kinda .. humbly!
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Tilak:Nice annai .. there are 1000s of books in normal and simple Telugu .. for a start .. Ramakrishna Mutt ki vellandi Mylapore .. even Telugu books kuda dorukutayi ..
Thanks brother. Nizamgaane telusukovalasinavi chaala ante chaaala unnayi. Telusukuni pillalaki chakkaga stories laaga chepthe vallu enjoy chestaru along with gaining knowledge |
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Tilak:
Farmer .. who are you, who am I, who is Sankara, who is Siva .. not separate entities .. all are that Brahman .. basis of Advaitha! so .. he applied it to one and all ..
"aham brahmasmi" anamaata...atma sathakam saaraamsam....good...
now, did shankaracharya practise and encourage religious rituals?.....i am not taling about the social customs of that age..... |
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Are there any books in normal telugu which explains the full stories of Adishankara or Mahabharatham
Nice annai .. there are 1000s of books in normal and simple Telugu .. for a start .. Ramakrishna Mutt ki vellandi Mylapore .. even Telugu books kuda dorukutayi ..
Anand_n:Viveka is applied at many levels - I am talking just about the context of what to react to and what to ignore at the material level
I do agree with you in the context .. glad you brought Viveka into "iham" ..
Farmer .. who are you, who am I, who is Sankara, who is Siva .. not separate entities .. all are that Brahman .. basis of Advaitha! so .. he applied it to one and all ..
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Tilak:
Meeru Chala Dooram vellipoyaru - Viveka is applied at many levels - I am talking just about the context of what to react to and what to ignore at the material level ...
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