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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 07:27 am:       


Andhravodu:

ohio lo clinton meeda trump leading, fl/pa lo bamma ki just 2pts lead.




NC 9 points lead clinton ani kuda vachindi last week. sanders inka field lo vundatam tho koncham aa fans trying anukunta PA,Fl lo
 

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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 06:20 am:       

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3584501/Hindu-gr oup-India-asks-gods-help-Trump-win-US-election.html


Indian Hindus ask gods to help Trump
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 09:07 am:       


Andhravodu:

omg, joker joker anukunte, actual gaa bokka pettela unnadu. quinnipiac poll padindi, ohio lo clinton meeda trump leading, fl/pa lo bamma ki just 2pts lead. ila unte, vp pick will matter a lot for this election. something like 10k votes might swing the election in swing states




Whoever wins deserves it. People vote for diff reasons but we have t respect people's choice
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 09:02 am:       


Gringo:

hillary/warren


jaragadu, for multiple reasons. senator is more valuable than vp. and 2 ladies representing north east states ante, geographically and gender wise kashtam
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 08:56 am:       


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dems are hoping for hillary/warren ticket which will be nothing but a disaster.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 08:53 am:       

omg, joker joker anukunte, actual gaa bokka pettela unnadu. quinnipiac poll padindi, ohio lo clinton meeda trump leading, fl/pa lo bamma ki just 2pts lead. ila unte, vp pick will matter a lot for this election. something like 10k votes might swing the election in swing states
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 09:30 pm:       

rubio gadu povatam better. kasich/joni ernst rakapothe, mana sleepy doctor ben garitho poti chesi padestadu. heights appudu, nallolla votes annee trump ki padite
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 08:21 pm:       


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the broker was fined. but the other party was not.




broker was fined because he didnt follow the security rules. I dont see any contradiction and it was not related to this one case and was related to the brokerage in general. Ikkada trial emaina ummadi trial a?
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:59 pm:       


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the broker was fined. but the other party was not.


there is coincidence
And he is not fined for this trade. He is fined for actions he did 5 yrs later in farm commodities market( not catle future )
Enough of the technicalities, I see your point and it has validity. However, Refco has history of doing shady trades so guilty by association.
But Refco had 100s of other clients who were also not fined. So I don't understand your insistence on hillary's evil in this regard.
Nenu oka shops lo things konnanu for few days. Aa shop Vadu illegal drugs Ammutha few years later pattubaddadu.. Nenu aa shop lo things konna time na behavior erratic ga vundhi...So as a matter of coincidence I might have purchased those drugs. But is that definitive????
There is a reason court doesn't take these kind of heresay cases.

I Will not have issue with you treating this as a moral issue and opposing the candidate. But this just does not deter me enough to walk away
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:37 pm:       


Rgb:

That didnt happen here




the broker was fined. but the other party was not.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:33 pm:       


Asdf:

look below about the broker. market motham manipulate chesi aadi prefernetial clients ki allocate chese vadu anta. do you think that happens without them being aware?

of course , the insider trading is/is made a gray area. but, too many coincidences right

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/brokerage/20 05-11-08-refco-usat_x.htm

//But Refco's principals gave preferential treatment to some customers over others, according to some of the nearly 300 Commodity Futures Trading Commission enforcement actions, arbitration cases and customer reparations complaints brought against the firm and its principals since its founding.

One beneficiary of Refco's trading prowess in the late 1970s was Hillary Clinton, the wife of then-governor of Arkansas Bill Clinton and now a U.S. senator from New York. She converted a $1,000 short-term investment in cattle futures at Refco's Little Rock office into a $100,000 portfolio. Clinton's profits provoked a flurry of controversy on Capitol Hill after her husband was elected president, but neither she nor Refco were formally charged with any related wrongdoing.//




Yes too many coincidences. My only point is that happens everyday on wallst. This is one of those cases where you are not guilty until caught with proof. That didnt happen here. No wonder a lot of people are suspicious of the clintons.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:29 pm:       


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Without knowing what the broker did with other accounts i.e. did he enforce the requirements or not, how do you know if he was doing a favor. Here the question is if Hillary did any insider trading knowingly or if Bill (the governor) was bribed indirectly. That is where the proof was lacking. All I am saying is that such things are left alone because of lack of proof every day on wall st




look below about the broker. market motham manipulate chesi aadi prefernetial clients ki allocate chese vadu anta. do you think that happens without them being aware?

of course , the insider trading is/is made a gray area. but, too many coincidences right

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/brokerage/20 05-11-08-refco-usat_x.htm

//But Refco's principals gave preferential treatment to some customers over others, according to some of the nearly 300 Commodity Futures Trading Commission enforcement actions, arbitration cases and customer reparations complaints brought against the firm and its principals since its founding.

One beneficiary of Refco's trading prowess in the late 1970s was Hillary Clinton, the wife of then-governor of Arkansas Bill Clinton and now a U.S. senator from New York. She converted a $1,000 short-term investment in cattle futures at Refco's Little Rock office into a $100,000 portfolio. Clinton's profits provoked a flurry of controversy on Capitol Hill after her husband was elected president, but neither she nor Refco were formally charged with any related wrongdoing.//
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:10 pm:       


Stellar:

rubio kuda dobbeyyi annad




Veedokkade clear ga cheppadu. Migatha valladaru standard statements istunnaru which doesnt mean anything. All candidates give such statements so that it looks like they are not looking for that post (especially to cover themseleves if they are not asked/selected)
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 07:07 pm:       


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just curious, do you think it happened by random? its not a day or two, to go below the radar.




Without knowing what the broker did with other accounts i.e. did he enforce the requirements or not, how do you know if he was doing a favor. Here the question is if Hillary did any insider trading knowingly or if Bill (the governor) was bribed indirectly. That is where the proof was lacking. All I am saying is that such things are left alone because of lack of proof every day on wall st
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 06:38 pm:       

http://time.com/4323752/marco-rubio-donald-trump-vice-presid ent/

rubio kuda dobbeyyi annad :D
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 06:33 pm:       

He also repeated his claim that he is "the king of debt."

"I understand debt better than probably anybody. I know how to deal with debt very well. I love debt -- but you know, debt is tricky and it's dangerous, and you have to be careful and you have to know what you're doing," Trump said.

brahmi i am Fire dialogue gurtochindi paidi chdivithe

 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 02:24 pm:       


Rocketk2:

Blair was clintons friend along with being lawyer of tyson's. So it's a gray area.




let us forget about favors done to Tyson, and all. Why is he penalized then?
If he was wrong in this particular case, does that not imply that Hillary is complicit?


Rocketk2:

Under-margin for less than a month is not an issue as I explained. It was broker's discretion on enforcing.




just curious, do you think it happened by random? its not a day or two, to go below the radar.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 02:12 pm:       


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she got favor for an under-margin account, and a lawyer with Tyson placed her orders. what are the odds that these incidents happened without her knowledge?


since I will be away for few hours, let me end this with follows
Under-margin for less than a month is not an issue as I explained. It was broker's discretion on enforcing. Blair was clintons friend along with being lawyer of tyson's. So it's a gray area. There is no indication of out of process favors done to Tyson's by Clinton adminstration..
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:54 pm:       


Rocketk2:

naku ee topic gurinchi koncham context telusu. But I read thru again.. I don't what you are reading and what I am missing !!

1978 lo trading ni ippati trading la chudodu. There were lot of changes. Even in 1996 naa account lo trades anni na stock broker chese vaadu most of the times with discussion on phone. Paperwork taruvatha chese Vallam. Margin call were descrationary . There was wiggle room not like these days.

Other than the fact that She was greedy for money in her starting days of career it proves nothing. You are over reaching in this issue.. Tyson foods ki favor chesthe.. Hillary account lo futures trading ki help chesadantam.. Very weak allegation. US lo enough checks and balances vunnayi to catch or minimize these things. Okati ara jarigina, I am not worried. I trust the system




not sure if you are mixing up 2 things.
Blair is not the broker, he is a lawyer for Tyson, and trader. Broker meeda case allowing an undermargin account, which is breaking the SEC rules.

Blair meeda allegation below vundi. someone who is a lawyer for Tyson, placed trades for the governor's wife . and not surprisingly, those trades are based on the industry he works.

Hillary Clinton has said she made all the trading decisions herself and has tried to play down Blair's role. But she acknowledged in April, three weeks after her trades were first disclosed, that Blair actually placed most of the trades.

whether they got penalized for this specific case only or not, does not change the facts here.

she got favor for an under-margin account, and a lawyer with Tyson placed her orders. what are the odds that these incidents happened without her knowledge?
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:45 pm:       


Andhravodu:

trump answer chesindi reporters question, in a scenario us ki pedda bokka padite emi chestavu ani, vadu cheppinadi echo chamber lo vesi tipputunnaru, but vadu cheppindi correct assuming if that much negative situation vaste. even conventional wisdom kooda ade jaruguddi ani forbes article

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asalemmanna spinaa Idhi :-) I heard the entire interview with my ears. Ayana clear ga current state of debt gurinchi matladadu..
Inka Idhi kadhule.. People will believe what they want to. I think we both are convinced on what we are seeing... That's all matters !!
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:37 pm:       


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ka case lo , 2 parties got penalized and hillary got nothing.
that is a favor imo.


isn't this misleading ?!! Did every one who traded cattle futures get punishment..
Did the 2 parties directly get punishment in this particular case or for Their practices in general??
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:30 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

cheyyakapothe shutdown ane kadha nana godava then cong has to approve.




Anduke budget pass chesetappude debt control lo pettali. Mari debt ceiling raise cheyyakapothe emi chestharu debts tho. Govt shutdown is the only option. And you know nobody likes it
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:27 pm:       


Asdf:

refer to this thread. it may not be "insider trading" case, but there are many aspects

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/319851.ht ml


naku ee topic gurinchi koncham context telusu. But I read thru again.. I don't what you are reading and what I am missing !!

1978 lo trading ni ippati trading la chudodu. There were lot of changes. Even in 1996 naa account lo trades anni na stock broker chese vaadu most of the times with discussion on phone. Paperwork taruvatha chese Vallam. Margin call were descrationary . There was wiggle room not like these days.

Other than the fact that She was greedy for money in her starting days of career it proves nothing. You are over reaching in this issue.. Tyson foods ki favor chesthe.. Hillary account lo futures trading ki help chesadantam.. Very weak allegation. US lo enough checks and balances vunnayi to catch or minimize these things. Okati ara jarigina, I am not worried. I trust the system
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 01:20 pm:       


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Debt ceiling cannot be raised by president




cheyyakapothe shutdown ane kadha nana godava then cong has to approve. ala raise chesinappudu Planned Parenthood, spending lantivi cut cheyyamantene kadha kulli kulli dustharu democracts antha.
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:58 pm:       


Andhravodu:

not convicted anedi baseline gaa pettukunte, trump kooda ekkestadu adi.




That has to be and will be decided by each individual voter
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:55 pm:       


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Yes Ame ni convict chese evidence prosecutors ki dorakaliga.




inka em septaam. under margin account for a month, for no reason ela vastundi.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:52 pm:       

not convicted anedi baseline gaa pettukunte, trump kooda ekkestadu adi.

trump answer chesindi reporters question, in a scenario us ki pedda bokka padite emi chestavu ani, vadu cheppinadi echo chamber lo vesi tipputunnaru, but vadu cheppindi correct assuming if that much negative situation vaste. even conventional wisdom kooda ade jaruguddi ani forbes article

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/05/07/donald-tr umps-glorious-threat-to-default-on-the-national-debt-is-just -the-conventional-wisdom/#dcd516a53085

btw, ron paul favorite peter schiff trump cheppindi right annadu. that might not be a good thing vote lekkallo, but evaraina libertarians unte check cheskondi
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:51 pm:       


Asdf:

i mean to say, the other parties involved with hillary got penalized and not her




Yes Ame ni convict chese evidence prosecutors ki dorakaliga. And Martha Stewart laaga coverup lo kooda dorikundadhu.
 

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hat happens everyday. Some get convicted and some dont. Its all a matter of getting caught with evidence




i mean to say, the other parties involved with hillary got penalized and not her
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:48 pm:       


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but the other parties got convicted , no? its like b. house vallani arrest chesi , customers ni vadilesinatlu




That happens everyday. Some get convicted and some dont. Its all a matter of getting caught with evidence
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:47 pm:       


Andhravodu:

huffingtonpost dialogs. impractical ani enduku antunnavo cheptava? are we fed that much of a propaganda, anything outside conventional thought is branded impractical and worse, scary? anything out of line scary ante, there would be no development of tech, cars etc.. etc..




Neeku serious ga answer kavalante a sarcasm enduku? This itself shows you are not serious

For example we already tried not involving in latest middleeast things hoping that other will take care. See what is happening. First we need to decide whether we want influence on the world or not. If we do it unfortunately takes money, resources
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:47 pm:       


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but binary choosthe she was not convicted




but the other parties got convicted , no? its like b. house vallani arrest chesi , customers ni vadilesinatlu
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:44 pm:       


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that does not make her wrongs right. what is your opinion about her insider trading?




Insider trading konthamandi dorukutaru and many wont. Akkada proof has to be pucca. She wasnt convicted. Anduke ga she has many negatives because of these sort of things ven though not convicted.

People can argue forever but binary choosthe she was not convicted
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:44 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

raised debt ceiling 3 times so US could brorrow more. leave that.


the point in question is US debt is most coveted monetary instrument today for stability inspite of gloom and doom we hear. Do I agree with all the spending Obama did .. Absolutely not.. This is the reason democrats scare at times..

But that doesn't mean you have to agree with someone who is advocatingn downgrade of most stable monetary instrument out there.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:42 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

Thats what obama did.




Debt ceiling cannot be raised by president
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:41 pm:       


Rocketk2:

what makes you thing SEC would be playing favors to Hillary.




oka case lo , 2 parties got penalized and hillary got nothing.
that is a favor imo.

refer to this thread. it may not be "insider trading" case, but there are many aspects

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/319851.ht ml
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:36 pm:       


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that does not make her wrongs right


it doesn't . It was meant to address likely hood of new things coming out of closet is very little.

I don't know which specific insider trading you were referring to but if there was insider trading what makes you thing SEC would be playing favors to Hillary. End of the day we have to rely on legal validity. Morally can she be Better ..'of course .. Legally is she wrong, I haven't seen any indictment yet ..
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:29 pm:       


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Thats what obama did. he raised debt ceiling 3 times so US could brorrow more. leave that. see this below. How obama is going to screw middle and upper middle class. Dems are danger to secent living i8ndividuals.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-sub urbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:27 pm:       


Rocketk2:

nd Hillary has been before public eyes for 25 years




that does not make her wrongs right. what is your opinion about her insider trading?

trump oka a class leki gadu kabatti saripoyindi. half decent opposition vunna kastam ayyedi ani naa layman view.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:21 pm:       


Rocketk2:

we will not default as we can print paper, we will default and draw new profitable deals .. These are the scary thoughts..



Obama printed lots of money.. no???
Obama made deals with all banks... no???
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:16 pm:       


Andhravodu:

out of line scary ante, there would be no development of tech, cars etc.. etc...


out of the line or out of the box thinking is not what we are seeing. Its blatant lack of thinking...
National debt negotiate chesthanu, we will not default as we can print paper, we will default and draw new profitable deals .. These are the scary thoughts..

Don't talk like trump is coming out and Pushing an agenda or thought process. All I hear is I ran a business so I can run a country. Why should he get a fee pass???
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 12:07 pm:       


Rgb:

However his solutions are impractical and some of them scare the daylights


huffingtonpost dialogs. impractical ani enduku antunnavo cheptava? are we fed that much of a propaganda, anything outside conventional thought is branded impractical and worse, scary? anything out of line scary ante, there would be no development of tech, cars etc.. etc...
Some things don't change. the rest are useless
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:45 am:       

at this point he can say anything and nothing, zilch , nada is going to dampen his standing among his supporters.....
look at the video of Cruz and a Trump supporter...there is no logic, reasoning to argue with trump supporters...
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:44 am:       


Rgb:

Anyway many of things he says are appealing to me




I liked his tax proposal. evvad suggest chesado kaani, very sensible solution to the nightmare we have right now.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:42 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

people who are supporting him knows who he is, they could care less about what he says...now, he needs to earn independents to win in November




This is true. Anyway many of things he says are appealing to me at a high level

- We are spending too much
- Our allies are not contributing their fair share
- Illegal immigration should be stopped
- Jobs have to be brought back
- We have to take care of older people (social security) and health

However his solutions are impractical and some of them scare the daylights out of me
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:42 am:       


Rocketk2:

He is a Wharton grad in economics




and Bush jr was a Yale grad and a Harvard MBA. and kejriwal an IITian. says nothing.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:40 am:       


Gringo:

Hannity has a collection of hillary's corrupt activities since 20 years. Trump will be using each and every story as a weapon to attack her.


and Hillary has been before public eyes for 25 years. There were 4 multimillion dollar congressional committees that investigated clintons. Hannity can say all he want..
But that is not the point. Trumps strong suit is supposed to be finance and economics as a businessman. The way he is talking about debt makes us question.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:36 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

He could keep saying dumb things


it's not just dumb.. He is a Wharton grad in economics. He might have lost his mind or somethings. It one thing about all the hate rhetoric but talking about national debt the way he is.. Opens so many questions.
The spin doctors will put some spin around this and make it marginally right but I heard him on cnn. He was mindless ranting off about how we won't default as we can print money, buy back at lower rate etc. this is not corporate debt..
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:33 am:       

Hannity has a collection of hillary's corrupt activities since 20 years. Trump will be using each and every story as a weapon to attack her.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:30 am:       


Dreamcatcher:

if any bad things come out for HRC in the news between now and then. So, anything is possible at this point.




looks like Obama has decided to take the fight to the donald. summer and fall lo full fledged ga eskuntadu. but that may actually work for the donald. billary ki pagultha untadhi. :D
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:27 am:       

people who are supporting him knows who he is, they could care less about what he says...now, he needs to earn independents to win in November. He could keep saying dumb things and still win in November if any bad things come out for HRC in the news between now and then. So, anything is possible at this point.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:16 am:       


Rocketk2:

I will have start believing what ever this guys says will not matter any more




It just doesnt. he has transcended common sense. :D and it's a cult now.
 

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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:13 am:       

At this point this guy is living on a different planet. What he say and what he does doesn't matter any more. Complete contradictory and illogical words. Last week I was suprised why no one picked up. If this doesn't become debate this week, I will have start believing what ever this guys says will not matter any more

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