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Jaiandhra
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 05:47 pm:       

25000 crores Farmer runmafi ki enni natakalu dobbaru RBI. Kanisam Reschdule cheyyandi ante enni sollu chepparu.

Ikkada vellemo okokadu state income range appulu vunnai ga. Villaki nidra etla padutundi asalu?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:39 pm:       


Tombrady:

was wondering how much the interest rates will be for these



Usually around 3% - 4% more than floating rate home loan I think. But these loans are generally fixed rate. I compared to floating rate home loan because most home loans in India are floating rate so people have a good idea of what those rates are. I can't give a specific number because the benchmark rates are different in different periods of time.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:29 pm:       


Risingstar:

King fisher ki Etihad deal appudu govt konchem help chesi untee ippudu intha worst situation undedhi kaadhu kadha




Malya gaadi athiki Govt react avvaledhu sarigga. Kavalani thokkesinattundhi naaku ayithe.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:28 pm:       


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loans ivvakapothe loans lekapothe businesses elaa run avuthayu? anni saarlu collateral ela thestharu? business plans chusi super anukuntene isthar kadha most of the times.. loan restructing undedhi enduku?

idhemanna mana sandu chivara shetty gaari kirana shop anukunnara enti? risk factor anedhi untundi okkosari adhi work out avadhu same time example ki oil prices, coal prices etc kooda debba kodathayu. market demand also plays crucial role




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Risingstar:

suppose high market loo meeru 300k petti illu kontaru 10% down payment thoo 3 years ayyaka aa inti real value 250 avuddi. edhanna problem vachi kattaleka ammaleka poyaru anukukondi emavuddi? bank dhi thappa? meedhi thappa?




this is personal loan..towards house..not business loan..cannot be used for comparison
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:24 pm:       

assalu appu untee adhoka pedda thappu anee type loo unnar kadha andaru.
suppose high market loo meeru 300k petti illu kontaru 10% down payment thoo 3 years ayyaka aa inti real value 250 avuddi. edhanna problem vachi kattaleka ammaleka poyaru anukukondi emavuddi? bank dhi thappa? meedhi thappa?

loans ivvakapothe loans lekapothe businesses elaa run avuthayu? anni saarlu collateral ela thestharu? business plans chusi super anukuntene isthar kadha most of the times.. loan restructing undedhi enduku?

idhemanna mana sandu chivara shetty gaari kirana shop anukunnara enti? risk factor anedhi untundi okkosari adhi work out avadhu same time example ki oil prices, coal prices etc kooda debba kodathayu. market demand also plays crucial role. King fisher ki Etihad deal appudu govt konchem help chesi untee ippudu intha worst situation undedhi kaadhu kadha?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:16 pm:       


Inquisitive:

US rates can't be compared to India. US has a strong currency and low growth rates so people are willing to lend at low rates. Almost 0% rate ki boledanta dabbu checking/savings accounts lo pettukunnavaallu mana DB lo ne unnaru. India is a fast growing country with a depreciating currency. Near 0 rates isthe evaru banks ki dabbulu ivvaru so banks won't be able to lend at those rates either.




am not comparing, was wondering how much the interest rates will be for these

kinda borrowing money
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:14 pm:       


Teluguvaadu:

GMR GRANDI MALLIKARJUN RAO 47976

Lanco LAGADAPATI 47102


GVK GVK REDDY 33933




telgooo akulll coool.. amma
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 01:01 pm:       

Lanco vallaki 8000 MW power plants vunnay plus Australia's biggest coal mine vundhi.. Solar power panels EPC business plus Lanco hills and other infra assets are also huge.

8000 MW each MW ki 5 crs vesukunna adhe 40K crores vuntundhi.

GMR also has big assets they won't go for default anukuntunna.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:59 pm:       


Tombrady:

interest rates entha india la ilanti debts ki? US la ila 0 interest rates ichi

2008 epic disaster caesar



US rates can't be compared to India. US has a strong currency and low growth rates so people are willing to lend at low rates. Almost 0% rate ki boledanta dabbu checking/savings accounts lo pettukunnavaallu mana DB lo ne unnaru. India is a fast growing country with a depreciating currency. Near 0 rates isthe evaru banks ki dabbulu ivvaru so banks won't be able to lend at those rates either.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:46 pm:       

interest rates entha india la ilanti debts ki? US la ila 0 interest rates ichi

2008 epic disaster chesar
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:45 pm:       

Few misleading comments here. Please read R Vaidyanathan's interview on Rediff on this issue.
5 mins after your birth, they decide your name, nationality, religion & sect & you spend rest of ur life defending something u didn't choose.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:45 pm:       

Labham ledu meeku Tution pettalsindhe..Debt amount is not important in Infrastructure..quality of asset portfolio will rate debt exposure of banks..

Below snapshots will give you macro understanding on how to evaluate..
http://imgur.com/58jLkwI
Debts of large groups.. Reliance Infra 1.25 lac cr, Vedanta 1.03 lac cr, Essar 1 lac cr, Adanj 96k cr, Jaypee 75k cr, Gmr 47k cr, Lanco 47k cr, Jsw 57k cr..

Now see the below risk profile and default rating..
http://imgur.com/38GvJm8
- Reliance, Vedanta, Adani and Jsw portfolio of operating/under construction/development assets are low stress.. means as an eg. their power assets have full fuel supply source and long term power supply arrangements for life of projects which are providing risk free cash flow to service debt, under construction assets can also be risk free with fuel, power arrangements in place ahead of completion..
- Other hand Lanco, GVK and Gmr has low debt compared to large groups but highly stressed (stressed doesn't mean default).. Stress could be due to fuel shortage/issues, delay payments by state discoms, delay in under construction projects with increases project cost(int. during construction/cost overruns)..
- BUT, stress doesn't mean default.. Gmr and Lanco default rated debt is significantly low even with high stress quantum compared to Essar which has a better portfolio..

Important to have healthy debt-to-ebitda multiple for companies.. Mean 2.2x to 2.5x is good..
Jaypee's multiple before disinvestment is very high, i think around 17x (not sure but abnormally high)..
Happens because group simultaneously starts developing/constructing multiple mega projects at a time. As infra projects development life cycle is around 5-7yrs..large Debt will drawn from banks to build these and cannot be serviced till they start generating annuity cash flows..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:34 pm:       

proper collateral ledhu...also most of these companies market value kooda cover cheyyadhu vallu chese appulaki....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:32 pm:       

as long as proper collateral vunte tappu emundhi?
JP/Chiru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:07 pm:       


Pulpfiction:


aa katte 10000 crores loan lo 500 crores raajakeeya viraalaalu istaaru..vellaki silent gaa "runa maafi" avuthundi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:07 pm:       

Project debt ki business debt ki Tution pettichali meeku..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:06 pm:       


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nee deggara vunna assets 2000 crores...nuvvu tesukune loan 12000 crores is it justified..

Oka saari caaravan lo Vasan Eye care gurinchi vachindi.. chaduvandi..all these industrialists valla gothulu valle tavvukunnaru... by being over ambitious.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 12:02 pm:       

nidra the sleep elaa vosthandho vaallaki ....
Jai Rayala Seema !
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:45 am:       

How many of these have backstabbed like Kingfisher ? They all are providing employment and investing in infra. Loans teeskoni dobbesthe adi different. Loans teeskoni ROI choopisthe, why blaming.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:42 am:       

chaala mandi 2G .. coal scam UPA chesina pedda scam anukuntaaru...
Kaani National Banks ni banking industry ni kolukoleni debba vesindi..that is a bigger scam...indulo Bank higher officials kudaa patradaarulee..

ippudento 6 chinna bankulani kalipi oka pedda bank chestaaru inta...

Thanks to Raghuram rajan, Supreme court, Government inka full credit ivvanu.. but vallu taluchunte "so-called" cleanup start avvadu... I highly doubt cleanup though..idi press lo hadavidi chesi industrialists edo ichestunnaru ...government edo lakkuntondi ani bhrama kalpistaaremo ani..
Endukante andaru ade taanu lo mukkale gaa..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:01 am:       


Teluguvaadu:

GMR GRANDI MALLIKARJUN RAO 47976

Lanco LAGADAPATI 47102


GVK GVK REDDY 33933



Teluguvaallu:


 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 11:00 am:       


Teluguvaadu:

GMR GRANDI MALLIKARJUN RAO 47976



Teluguvaadu:

Lanco LAGADAPATI 47102



Teluguvaadu:

GVK GVK REDDY 33933



sabash kula goauravam nilabetaru. oka reddy, oka kamma, oka vysas, only Raju's and Brahmins missing from OC's.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 10:59 am:       

asalu em chusi ichaaru inni kotlu? chidhu gaadu nashanam chesaadu banking industry ni
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 10:57 am:       

Lanco LAGADAPATI 47102


vini thoka pattukoni miru ithakottaru
 

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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - 10:55 am:       

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0nUUSVAAE8gUA.jpg


Reliance ADAG Anil Ambani - 123956

Essar Group - Shashi Ruia 101464

Jaypee Group - Jaiprakash Gaur 76180

GMR GRANDI MALLIKARJUN RAO 47976

Lanco LAGADAPATI 47102

Videocon Venugopal Dhoot 45405

GVK GVK REDDY 33933

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