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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 11:09 pm:       


Rahul:

uncle idi varaku 1's use to humiliate 3&4 with their rules and practices..so they use to join 2 in their fight against 1.Ippuudu antha motivation kastam for 3&4 to fight against 2..emantavu??



enduku kastam annai..leadership is the key..
ippudu 1 ki against potaniki 2nundi leadership undi /undedhi..so 3 and 4 rally ayyevi 2 venakala to defeat common enemy which was 1..
3 and 4 nundi strong leadership ochinapudu anni curtains toluguthayi..evari bujala meedha evaru gunlu petti pelusthunaro anni pata panchalu avuthayi..



prasthutha paristhutulu teesukunte 1's influence is restrcited to delhi and few north states..akkada nundi kooda 1 ni taramataniki 2's sayasakthula krushi chesings directly/indrectly..anduke we keep hearing 3 front every now and then..that is nothing but 2's fighting for delhi/india control, to remove 1's establishments congress/bjp and replace it with their own establishment.....sare ee lopala modi ochi he opened a complete different scenario, reverse chesadu thats a diff story..

but now coming to states its a diff situation..its all 2's hawa now..UPlo emayindhi? 4's nundi mayawati ochindi..inko 200 yrs ki kooda possible kadu anukune alliance dalit-brahmin alliance form chesindi..to put 2's in check..and then she reached out to kshatriyas and vaishyas too..now 2's nundi mulayam back..4ski band baja avutondhi..mana enpowered TNlo 2's chethullo 4's ki ittadhi avutondhi while 3's r still trying to join main stream..

futurelo 3's and 4's nundi leadership ostundhi and ravali..appudu they will colloborate with 1 to keep 2's in check or colloborate with 2's to keep 1 in check depending on who is ruling the roost in that area/state..

gadhi sangathi..all these r just my observations or predictions anthe..

ika unta..bye
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 08:50 pm:       

If you see snake and Brahmin ..

Kill Brahmin first


Periyar
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 08:47 pm:       


Ruj:


uncle idi varaku 1's use to humiliate 3&4 with their rules and practices..so they use to join 2 in their fight against 1.Ippuudu antha motivation kastam for 3&4 to fight against 2..emantavu??
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 08:23 pm:       


Ruj:


simply super logic!

Zulu:

He delivered what most tamilians wanted at that time..equality, self respect and social justice.


kiki .. then why are obc reservations needed for 60% of those communities. When equality and social justice is achieved, time to repeal .. right?

40 years nunchi, power stuck only in hands of karuna, mgr and jaya .. what social justice yaa .. LOL
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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:51 pm:       


Siloan:




tam brahms ante yes ane vadini bhyaya..he said brahmins in general..maa dost kurrodu unnadu veera periyar fan..nastik brahmin..

Zulu:

I would say other castes. yes Sudras benefited more from it than the panchama kula


this is my perspective..i might be wrong..but my opinion..

there r 4 layers in general in india..


1) Brahmins, vaishyas, kshatriyas

2) land owning, feudal and other agararian cassettes(indulo kondharu OCs kondharu BCs depending on local circumstances)

3) real socially backward cassettes(chakali, mangali etc)

4) pancha varnams dalits, tribals etc..


indulo fight against grp 1) anapudu 2,3,4 automatic oka grp ayipothayi..this doesnt necessarily mean all these 3 grps concerns are addressed in this fight..1 is common enemy..so kick out philosophy..and most of the cases 1 belongs to brahmins rather than kshatriya vaishya... since brahms formed the rules and had control over major administration depts so..



I see periyars fight belongs to this category..aa processlo manchi jarigindhaa kachitamga jarigindhi but still inspite of all said and done ..the hierarchy mindset is intact..

and also as long as this fight is against 1) these people become heroes..the moment fight turns against 2 they get decimated..

repu ee kaniah or kanci ilaiah lantolu emi ra yadavs, thakurs, TN OBCs and other OCs, emi ra telugu feudal cassettes, emi ra jatts, bhumihars etc emi ra meeru dalits ni supress cheshtunaru ani adigar ante they wil get decimated..as long as they say fight against 1 they get acceptance..

periyar, kaniah, iliah ganniah somiah all come from grp 2)..none of them come from 3 or 4..

lets see how many yrs more this drama continues..matter of time before 3 and 4 realizes the fallacy in these fights..neti 2's aa repati 1's..already that transition is in progress..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:27 pm:       

gear change

http://eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break157
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:18 pm:       


Ruj:

it was mainly meant to kick out brahmins control and give it to other agrarian cassettes..




I would say other castes. yes Sudras benefited more from it than the panchama kula
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:17 pm:       


Ruj:

brahmins hating periyar is debatable..



 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:16 pm:       


Zulu:

dravidian movement achieved its purpose...samajika nyayam..
abolition of caste based education..



let me rephrase what i meant..the dravidian movment has nothing to do with being a so called dravida..neither its intention was to enpower all the supressed groups....its main goal was to kick out tamil brahmins control and brahminism at large...in that process manchi panul jarigayi like education etc that u mentioned..if u want people to backu up u have to show some difference..anthe tappa the real issue at large i.e caste hierarchy , age old suppression of few grps like dalits and tribals etc wasnt even part of that movement..
.it was mainly meant to kick out brahmins control and give it to other agrarian cassettes..





Zulu:

rajaji afternoon kula vruthi teaching in schools ani modaledithey...(meaning mangali vallu mangali pani..chakali vallu chaki pani..etc etc school lo nerchukuntaru)

periyar denkeyy annadu..



manchi pani chesadu

Zulu:

brahmins will hate periyar..and belittle his achievements..other castes..especially sudras/OBCs will hold him dear to their heart.



brahmins hating periyar is debatable..

OBCs liking periyar is definte...SCs STs debatable...
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:15 pm:       


Cocanada:

Periyar is a small man with narrow mind. Donald Trump type.




may be, but thats exactly the kind of man, tamilnadu needed at that time. He delivered what most tamilians wanted at that time..equality, self respect and social justice.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 02:02 pm:       


Zulu:


Periyar is a small man with narrow mind. Donald Trump type.

Ambedkar is Obama range
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 01:58 pm:       


Ruj:

but main target was periyars personal vengance against tam brahms..migitha antha buss..




gandhi personal vengeance on British annattundi..

dravidian movement achieved its purpose...samajika nyayam..
abolition of caste based education..

rajaji afternoon kula vruthi teaching in schools ani modaledithey...(meaning mangali vallu mangali pani..chakali vallu chaki pani..etc etc school lo nerchukuntaru)

periyar denkeyy annadu..

brahmins will hate periyar..and belittle his achievements..other castes..especially sudras/OBCs will hold him dear to their heart.
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 01:52 pm:       

Dravidian movement miserably failed ante India lo success ayina movement lenatte..

Appatlo British Govt lo brahmins 90% kante ekkuva undevallu..colleges lo kooda anthe..

ippudu paristhithi cheppakkaledhu kadha...

ento janalu baavi lo bathikesthuntaru
 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 12:47 pm:       


Tilak:

kiki .. dravidians gup chup soda buddi .. vallaki power vachindi kabatti success ata le .. dalits emaithe vallakem ..


aa darvidian movement major agenda was to come out of tam brams control..aa vidhamga choosthe chala peddha success ee..


migitha antha hypocrisy..to rileup people u need a much bigger cause..anduke dravidian movement, enpowernment of backward people etc come into picture..but main target was periyars personal vengance against tam brahms..migitha antha buss..



btw look at atrocities on dalits in TN,UP and bihar....mostly carried out by OBCs or feudal/land owning OCs..


TN and UPlo ayithe its mostly BCs..

http://www.firstpost.com/india/dalit-houses-torched-taking-p rocession-tamil-nadu-village-conflict-unfolded-2396828.html

 

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Posted on Friday, March 25, 2016 - 12:06 am:       


Ruj:


kiki .. dravidians gup chup soda buddi .. vallaki power vachindi kabatti success ata le .. dalits emaithe vallakem ..
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 09:32 am:       


Meghan:

ayodhya mandir movement




Grand Success
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 09:10 am:       

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/brutal-atrocities-again st-dalits-tamil-nadu-colossal-failure-dravidian-edifice-3245 5

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/its-now-dal its-vs-nondalits/article7386959.ece

atrocities on dalits in TN..facts should come out..please name the cassettes who are doing this..
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:59 am:       


Awara1984:

is atheism and show of putting a gar land of chappals over idols of deities were clownish, not well thought out.Scriptures merely codified caste whose material basis was already there in society. The Dravidian move ment attacked scriptures but never really challenged the deeper basis of caste



perfect ga cheppadu..hierarchy mindset is the biggest problem in desam today..Oc's and fake BC cassettes among OBCs(ante yadavs,gouds,padmashalis,jatts etc) varaku nenu ekkuva nuvvu takkuva anna feeling ledu ippudu...but SCs STs and few really backward BC(ante mangalodu,chakalodu etc types) castes ni mathram inka tokki petti uncharu..evaru tokki petti uncharu ante palana valu ani kaadu..aa hierarchy mindset is working against themselves..like mala feels madiga as inferiors..OBCs feel SCs as inferior and then rest all successfully exploit it etc..

Dalits payina atrocitieslo TN consistently ranks high in desam..bihar UP lanti places teesesthe next TN ee ostadi..malli adhi peddha so called anti upper caste, lower caste enpowered state..
http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/Atrocities-Ag ainst-Dalits-High-in-Tamil-Nadu-Claims-NCSC/2015/07/10/artic le2912101.ece

most of these radical anti hindu, anti brahmin, anti upper caste batch dont come from dalit or tribals..they come from kadupu nindina feudal,agrarian OCs batch or BC batch..valaki personal ga incident jarigithe adhi manusulo pettukuni societylo unna heirarchy mindset and vaati sufferers vala bhujalani vadukuni recha dobbuthar..our own kanche iliah same bapathi..valu masses ki iche speeches veru untayi, interviewslo matlade completely toned down centric philosophy veru untadhi..

for example he never talks abt atrocities of different caste grps among BCs on dalits..his focus is his personal vengance..daniki bali pasuvul ee dalits..monna rohit vemula caselo kooda rabandhula laga vaalipoyaru OCs vs dalit angle ni full ga exploit cheyataniki..

i wish and hope dalits come out of the shadows of OBCs and other fake warriors fighting on behalf of them, and get truly enpowered..i hope they realize who is really suprresing them in todays world..
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:06 am:       

dravidian moment sudra moment what ever you call it simply feudal to the core their only philosophy is to oppose brahminsm and capture power ..
absolute success .. fact entante same ppl were ruling before for 1000s of years with the help of brahminism ..

at least TN lo konta change undi .. but where are sc and st original sons of india??
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:04 am:       

All movements except ayodhya mandir movement were succesful... we need to take a leaf out of ayodhya mandir movement and move forward to achieve our goals.

The only reason India is still a developing country is because the Independance movement failed... If they have followed RSS idealogy back then we would have been baap of USA.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:02 am:       


We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
-- Aristotle
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 08:00 am:       


Tilak:

as usual the movement miserably failed



 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 07:12 am:       


Tilak:

as usual the movement miserably failed to achieve its intended purpose ..





Awara1984:

while the movement empowered OBCs against brahmins it kept alive the antagonism between OBCs and dalits.



Miserably failed aaa? hahaaaaa. Evan Dalits kooda migatha states tho polchukunte more empowered in TN. Dalit pampering thakkuva TN lo chalaa states kante. Dalits lo koodaa entitlement batch thakkuva undedhi TN lone.
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 04:27 am:       


Awara1984:

Karunanidhi's wife


Iddaru bharyalu venugopala swamy ki gatti pujala mahima emo .. bharta jeevitam shata varshala disaga parugulu teestondi ..

Awara1984:

Stalin's wife are devoutly religious.


peru Durga, Brahmin family lo puttindi .. maha sadhvi laa undi .. its only after entry into this family .. that the family is open about their beliefs ..

Awara1984:

His atheism and show of putting a gar land of chappals over idols of deities were clownish, not well thought out


mamoolu hatred kaadu .. ilanti mindless hate and extremism valle anardhalu jarugutayi .. as usual the movement miserably failed to achieve its intended purpose ..
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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 04:08 am:       

Karunanidhi's wife and Stalin's wife are devoutly religious. Jaya is openly religious. Her followers offer prayers at temples for their leader, some even go as far as to ritually partake food from the floor of a temple so the deity showers blessings on Jayalalithaa," says T N Gopalan, a political analyst.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 04:07 am:       

"His atheism and show of putting a gar land of chappals over idols of deities were clownish, not well thought out.Scriptures merely codified caste whose material basis was already there in society. The Dravidian move ment attacked scriptures but never really challenged the deeper basis of caste," says N Kalyan Raman, a literary critic, who adds that while the movement empowered OBCs against brahmins it kept alive the antagonism between OBCs and dalits.
 

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 04:05 am:       

Yet, despite more than seven decades of the Dravidian movement and 49 years of rule of Dravidian parties, religious belief seems strong as ever in the state. Lakhs of people throng not just the big temples but also smaller folk shrines closely linked to local culture. "Periyar the modernist saw everything around him as regressive. A cultural nihilist, he didn't understand the importance of the rela tionship between beliefs and the cultural life of Tamils," says Muthukumaraswamy.

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Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2016 - 04:04 am:       

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation /how-religion-is-scripting-a-tamil-nadu-return/articleshow/5 1537020.cms

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