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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:43 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Agreed. But still it doesn't change the fact that, Arjuna alone defeated entire Kaurava army... and he didn't even use any of his main astras..

(on a side note, did arjuna ever use Pashupatastra in the final battle? )

Samoohana astram tho andarini unconcious chestinappudu.. andarini bandhinchi vunte end of the story kadaa.. they have any completed their 13 year exile and now defeated kauravas and they become kings kadaa



By the time arjuna came in front of them there is a big conversation that happens - duryodhana is overjoyed brihannala shankam oodinappudu, he says manam pandavas ni expose chesesam ani. Appudu pitamah explains, due to motion of the planets and sun every five years ki 2 months extra add avutayi so pandavas vanavasam actually already completed ani. At this point arjuna sanmohana vese andarini sleep chesesi takes back the gau sampada. Coming to the point of capturing them and claiming the throne , according to the agreed rules they have to present themselves at the court and ask for the kindgdom. So Arjuna does not have the mandate to do that.
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:36 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

on a side note, did arjuna ever use Pashupatastra in the final battle?




Nope. The astras are taught with both options of prayogam and backing !!! These are to be very carefully used only as a last last last resort.


Mrhyderabad:

But still it doesn't change the fact that, Arjuna alone defeated entire Kaurava army.




True. But he did not KILL anyone there where as in final battle he has to Kill them to actually get simhasanam.
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:33 pm:       


Cinejeevi:

uttara gograhanam is matter of pride



Okahyderabadi:

The intent of the whole exercise is to bring out Pandavas.


Agreed. But still it doesn't change the fact that, Arjuna alone defeated entire Kaurava army... and he didn't even use any of his main astras..

(on a side note, did arjuna ever use Pashupatastra in the final battle? )

Samoohana astram tho andarini unconcious chestinappudu.. andarini bandhinchi vunte end of the story kadaa.. they have any completed their 13 year exile and now defeated kauravas and they become kings kadaa
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:17 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:




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when you don't believe the god what makes you read all these
 

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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 01:14 pm:       


Cinejeevi:

So it was not ME :-)


The intent of the whole exercise is to bring out Pandavas. dakshina go grahanam lo susharma is against the entire matsya army along with virata, yudhishtra, bheema, nakula, sahadeva etc. Here susharma breaks through the army and captures virata. At this point Yudhistira tells bheema to save virata. Bheema then attacks susharma and saves virata and captures susharma. Yudhistra then releases susharma. Cut cheste north side lo ante uttara gograham lo arjuna uses sanmohana to shut out everybody. so no war there.
Look at the jaya war except few inconsequential warriors Bheema is the only warrior who pretty much killed everybody on the kaurava side
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:53 pm:       


Netra:

I am not able to post from office ip. Asala ccdb open avvatledhu. Admin saab Endhi issue. Maa office not blocked ccdb




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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:48 pm:       

I am not able to post from office ip. Asala ccdb open avvatledhu. Admin saab Endhi issue. Maa office not blocked ccdb
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:38 pm:       

In the final war that is not the case. akkada chachche avakasam undachchu or champe avakasam unna vadilipettachchu.. ikkada nope.. do or die..

so scope and scale are totally different to plan and execute
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:36 pm:       

First of The war (not a right word) at the time of uttara gograhanam is matter of pride. It's not do or die situation to anyone.

to make sure pandavas come out of hibernation kouravas planned this attack with full force (this much force is totally brutal on a small king but justified what if pandavas come into picture and fight).

So who ever wins the prelims is the King and others go away. Arjuna alone here handles it just to make sure hey I lifted 400Kgs weight where as u did only 350, so I win you loose and get the heck from here :D:D:D

to end this type of confrontation quickly he uses the sammohana astram where everyone is unconscious and cuts their pride (piece from tala paaga). khel khatam dukaan bandh. gup chup go home
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:29 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:


So it was not ME :-)
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:24 pm:       


Okahyderabadi:



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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:21 pm:       


Wellsfargo:

K.Raghavendra Rao BA cheppadu "The logic ends when drama begins"


serious thread with genuine question
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:20 pm:       


Vishvak:

As per what I raead, Kaurava's are not fully prepared or drunk during this Go-grahana as they thought they are fighting a weakest enemy...




yes.. akkada keechaka already dead kabatti weakest army ni just manam elli veasy ga odinchochu anukonnar.. debbayyar..

kurukshetram ki oste ikkada kauravas tho patu chala mandi kings participate chesaru.. anduke 18days patti undochu..since this is do/die war kabatti only killing enemy require to win the war.. intakumundu la just odincheste kaadu..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:20 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Continuing the MB series..

I have a genuine doubt about battle during uttara go grahana episode.. this is nothing to do with any religious or spiritual angle.

Arjuna (in Brihannala disguise) single ga, entire kaurava sena (Bheeshma, Kripa, Drona, Duryodhana, Karna, Ashwathama etc) ni less than half a day lo odinchaadu kadaa.. Krishna, Bheema and other pandavas, army was not there.. Arjun does it all alone.

So if they all together can't fight with Arjuna alone then how can Kauravas think that they can win against entire pandavas and other kings army + krishna's presence etc - why did they even go to final kurukshetra battle when they know they can't win

And if Arjuna alone can defeat all of them in half day, why did it take 18 days for entire pandava sena to defeat Kaurava sena?

Finally, Arjuna already fought and defeated them once.. why does he hesitate to fight with them again in final battle and prompting Krishna to recite Geetha ?




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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:17 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Continuing the MB series..

I have a genuine doubt about battle during uttara go grahana episode.. this is nothing to do with any religious or spiritual angle.

Arjuna (in Brihannala disguise) single ga, entire kaurava sena (Bheeshma, Kripa, Drona, Duryodhana, Karna, Ashwathama etc) ni less than half a day lo odinchaadu kadaa.. Krishna, Bheema and other pandavas, army was not there.. Arjun does it all alone.

So if they all together can't fight with Arjuna alone then how can Kauravas think that they can win against entire pandavas and other kings army + krishna's presence etc - why did they even go to final kurukshetra battle when they know they can't win

And if Arjuna alone can defeat all of them in half day, why did it take 18 days for entire pandava sena to defeat Kaurava sena?

Finally, Arjuna already fought and defeated them once.. why does he hesitate to fight with them again in final battle and prompting Krishna to recite Geetha ?


I think you asked the same question last year or somebody else
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:14 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:




waiting for Netra/Sony/Anand_n to start posting..
 

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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:09 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Arjuna (in Brihannala disguise) single ga, entire kaurava sena (Bheeshma, Kripa, Drona, Duryodhana, Karna, Ashwathama etc) ni less than half a day lo odinchaadu kadaa.. Krishna, Bheema and other pandavas, army was not there.. Arjun does it all alone.


As per what I raead, Kaurava's are not fully prepared or drunk during this Go-grahana as they thought they are fighting a weakest enemy...

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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 12:00 pm:       


Mrhyderabad:

Finally, Arjuna already fought and defeated them once.. why does he hesitate to fight with them again in final battle and prompting Krishna to recite Geetha ?


mahabharatha yuddham odinchadaniki kaadu champadaaniki ....he knew he would have to kill which he doesn't want to....eeee vishayam meeda jalsa movie lo pk emannadanteeeee
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 11:29 am:       

Continuing the MB series..

I have a genuine doubt about battle during uttara go grahana episode.. this is nothing to do with any religious or spiritual angle.

Arjuna (in Brihannala disguise) single ga, entire kaurava sena (Bheeshma, Kripa, Drona, Duryodhana, Karna, Ashwathama etc) ni less than half a day lo odinchaadu kadaa.. Krishna, Bheema and other pandavas, army was not there.. Arjun does it all alone.

So if they all together can't fight with Arjuna alone then how can Kauravas think that they can win against entire pandavas and other kings army + krishna's presence etc - why did they even go to final kurukshetra battle when they know they can't win

And if Arjuna alone can defeat all of them in half day, why did it take 18 days for entire pandava sena to defeat Kaurava sena?

Finally, Arjuna already fought and defeated them once.. why does he hesitate to fight with them again in final battle and prompting Krishna to recite Geetha ?
Don't say you don't have enough time. You have exactly the same number of hours per day that were given to Helen Keller, Pasteur, Michaelangelo, Mother Teresea, Leonardo da Vinci, Thomas Jefferson, and Albert Einstein

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