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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2015 - 01:50 am:       

arabs and jews are semites vaallaki padedi kaadu...

arabs pagans ade time lo christian evangelists manchi swing lo unnaru... muhammad heard all the stores of old testament new testament whatever and based on that, spun off his own religion, and blocked all back door entries in this version, no further prophets... it was a clever move...
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 07:43 pm:       


Chiru_fan:

Hinduism antee neeku anthaa nacchakapoothee convert avvu GaGu


kikiki....meerandaroo Mars vellipovachu kadhaa inkaa
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 05:49 pm:       


Gandhiguevara:

kikiki...Bihar vallu takka



Hinduism antee neeku anthaa nacchakapoothee convert avvu GaGu.....ilaa rozu mana maathaanni manamee tittukookundaa...happy gaa vundocchhu....
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 05:39 pm:       


Buduguuu:

unkel inta generic statement ga kakunda christianity lo oppression or discrimination meeda emanna historical references unte cheppara, plss...




 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:53 pm:       

btw, many do not consider him a true apostle, as he is one of the disciples who doubts Jesus on various occasions.

Jesus in India/Kashmir/Orissa
Jesus' tomb in Kashmir
Jesus being a Buddhist monk

ilativi inka saana unaayi
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:50 pm:       


Lichtenberg:

This is a bullshit story. Much has been written about St. Thomas myth. Vatican had to issue clarification once they published something which contradicts this story(St Thomas christians were upset abt it)




it is controversial and there very little physical evidence apart from historical references made by several travelers.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:36 pm:       


Farmer:

vintha emundhi...ye matham books lo ainaa same sodhi ye vuntundhi....kakapothe mee book lo sodhi kante maa book lo sodhi better ani kottuku chasta vuntaru....religion was created to oppress certain sections of people, enforce your ideas and thoughts on them, and make them willing and voluntary slaves who will further propagate the agenda...




unkel inta generic statement ga kakunda christianity lo oppression or discrimination meeda emanna historical references unte cheppara, plss...
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:13 pm:       


Farmer:




Daatar...monna Bob ka guruji meedha oka thread padindhi...benefit of doubt iccheyandi.

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/306072.ht ml
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:09 pm:       


Farmer:

religion was created to oppress certain sections of people, enforce your ideas and thoughts on them, and make them willing and voluntary slaves who will further propagate the agenda...




negative approach ekkuva gaani content is same. it was used to unite nations, give hope to despair, legality to kings and maintain social order. ippudu ante law & order, government lantivi vachayi kaani religion lekapothe marai atavika rajyam la vundedhi.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:09 pm:       


Farmer:

and make them willing and voluntary slaves who will further propagate the agenda...


kikiki...Bihar vallu takka
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 01:03 pm:       

vintha emundhi...ye matham books lo ainaa same sodhi ye vuntundhi....kakapothe mee book lo sodhi kante maa book lo sodhi better ani kottuku chasta vuntaru....religion was created to oppress certain sections of people, enforce your ideas and thoughts on them, and make them willing and voluntary slaves who will further propagate the agenda...
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:59 pm:       


Buduguuu:

how come these people are able to spread their wings so rapidly?


Money which they can throw
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:54 pm:       

humptea and nihil

inta forceful ga religious conversion chesta unte what is the diff between christians and muslims?? ante violent acts lo christians are no lesser kada. how come these people are able to spread their wings so rapidly?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:47 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

put youself as a solider 2000 years back. champu ledha chavu daka vellataniki only 2 promises chesevaru (get share in loot which includes women and children) and """eternity in the name of god."""



yup..'eternity in the name of god' is what im talking abt..lack of pluralism valla ochina kastal..
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:45 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

mana daggara same religion different sects such as vaishnavites and shivites kottukoledha


exaggeration...indialo enni decades/centuries and ee partslo ee wars ayyayi cheppu bhayya?? 'kottukotam' vs centuries of slaugther and occupation and conversion..teda ledha??
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:34 pm:       


Poseidon:

Different story aa bokkaaa. Eede thelisina story ki masalaa add chesi rendu moodu changes chesi untadu.




kindal brother chusadu ante fatwa jari chestadu blasphemy antoo.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:32 pm:       


Ruj:

at the same time it killed tolerance, pluralistic values and to accept someone different...it thought the idea of im superior than a non believer..




I agree with this.

Ruj:

hence so many bloody wars in the name of religion which continue till date..




i dont agree with this one. mana daggara same religion different sects such as vaishnavites and shivites kottukoledha. violence is in human nature. resources kosamu fight lo religion is used to inspire people anthe.

put youself as a solider 2000 years back. champu ledha chavu daka vellataniki only 2 promises chesevaru (get share in loot which includes women and children) and eternity in the name of god.
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:31 pm:       


Poseidon:

Different story aa bokkaaa. Eede thelisina story ki masalaa add chesi rendu moodu changes chesi untadu.


 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:31 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:



Ismail and Isaac are two sons of Abraham. Ismail is not particularly liked by Jews or Christians, while Muslims give more importance to Ismail than Isaac, particulary because they believe Muhammad is a descendent of Ismail.

however, this does not mean all Arabic tribes are descendants of Ismail.




Ismail was thrown out of the kingdom by her step mother for step brother Issac, thats when he went to arab land took control over arabic tribes....thats where the whole arabic tribes got info about jews and

in parallel some other jew kings were ruling the so called "holy" land and these arabic tribes were following the same kings as their prophets etc etc
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:30 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Saint Thomas - one of the 12 apostles of christ, who were given the task of spreading the "Word" landed in india(Kerala) in the 1st century. seeds sown back then.




Eeyana india raatam anthaa buss antagaa.
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:28 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

and he told a different story to Prophet, than what he told to jews :D




Different story aa bokkaaa. Eede thelisina story ki masalaa add chesi rendu moodu changes chesi untadu.
Yaadhum oorE yaavarum kElir
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:27 pm:       


Jai_ycp:

this belief of one god was a radical one at that time but it also disturbed harmony among peoples living side by side



at the same time it killed tolerance, pluralistic values and to accept someone different...it thought the idea of im superior than a non believer..

hence so many bloody wars in the name of religion which continue till date..

 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:25 pm:       


Sony:

arab tribe ni control chesindi/educate chesindi so called Jew son Ismail ye kadaa




there are many arab tribes, who are not descendants of Ismail.

Ismail and Isaac are two sons of Abraham. Ismail is not particularly liked by Jews or Christians, while Muslims give more importance to Ismail than Isaac, particulary because they believe Muhammad is a descendent of Ismail.

however, this does not mean all Arabic tribes are descendants of Ismail.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:21 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Saint Thomas - one of the 12 apostles of christ, who were given the task of spreading the "Word" landed in india(Kerala) in the 1st century. seeds sown back then.




This is a bullshit story. Much has been written about St. Thomas myth. Vatican had to issue clarification once they published something which contradicts this story(St Thomas christians were upset abt it)
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:21 pm:       

people who serve multiple gods or nature are called as pagans/idol worshippers etc. in that framework Hinduism is pagan religion islam is not.

this belief of one god was a radical one at that time but it also disturbed harmony among peoples living side by side
the story of YCP and TDP in 2014 (AP)- http://goo.gl/zgrYmQ
http://goo.gl/gn6XL5
the story of TDP in 2014 (T) - http://goo.gl/nyu1Wu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:19 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Arabs were mostly Pagans, christians and zorastrians before islam was dominant.


ala ante jews kuda pagans ye kada before moses arrived.....

ippudu story before the moses arrival is what arabs(pagans) and Jews(pagans) are having discrepancies
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:18 pm:       


Sony:

Same person (gabriel/jbiril) telling 2 different stories to 2 different persons?

to me it means prophet/jews wrote their own obesrvations and started claiming ours is original



ofcourse - but it has got nothing to do with arabic tribes is my point.

Arabs were mostly Pagans, christians and zorastrians before islam was dominant.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:17 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Saint Thomas - one of the 12 apostles of christ, who were given the task of spreading the "Word" landed in india(Kerala) in the 1st century. seeds sown back then.



ya ippude chooosanu online..but kinda unsuccessful attempt..first success 6 century AD ki ochindi....
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:15 pm:       

as per old testament, Noah had 3 sons. Japheth,Shem,Ham.

Japheth sons are all genital i.e. non believers. his descendants became the people who lived to the north and west of Israel and, after Babel, spoke what today are classified as Indo-European languages.

Sham is the source of all semitic people. His descendants are the Arabians, Canaanites, and Africans, including the Egyptians. Due to Ham’s sin against his father , Noah cursed Hams descendants to be servant to Shem descendants.

adhi matter.
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:15 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Muslims, did not take stories from Arabs, Arabs, they were not israeli tribes, they were actually enemies of Jews and were pagans and infidels


arab tribe ni control chesindi/educate chesindi so called Jew son Ismail ye kadaa
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:13 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

however the Prophet was told diffrently by the angel Jibril(Gabriel in jewish ). and he told a different story to Prophet, than what he told to jews


this is what is my point is

now how would we know if jews are telling the correct story or prophet telling correct story

a Same person (gabriel/jbiril) telling 2 different stories to 2 different persons?

to me it means prophet/jews wrote their own obesrvations and started claiming ours is original
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:12 pm:       


Ruj:

how?




Saint Thomas - one of the 12 apostles of christ, who were given the task of spreading the "Word" landed in india(Kerala) in the 1st century. seeds sown back then.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:12 pm:       


Ruj:

adhe kadha lafoot galu



christianity and islam have destroyed thousands of cultures nature worshippers in the name of enlightment and zhod....even now islam ni pagan ani anaru but hinduism and others are pagan...jaffa nayallu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:10 pm:       

Just my observation -

Jews/xians/islam all 3 originated nearly in same region

Jews said our religion is elite class and did not include any tribes nearby into their religion

Xian started by Jew included few tribes in same region but eventually wiped out from same region and took over bye romans/spainards/portugeese who added their own flavor and started converting regions wherever they have been

Islam started by arabic tribe (step brothers to jews) in same region existed there for years and slowly spread over other areas

Now for past 500 years with conversions both religions got actively involved to show their head count as a power
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:10 pm:       


Sony:

xians wrote the testament thinking hebew bible as a source and accepting it right material

islam wrote their stories from their tribes (arabs) who were seperated eventually from Abraham/ibrahim son Ismail




that is not right.

two inconsistencies here. Christians know that Jesus is a Jew, and they know that he followed jewish bible, so they have to use what Jesus was. They added a second testament based on Jesus's teachings.

Muslims, did not take stories from Arabs, Arabs, they were not israeli tribes, they were actually enemies of Jews and were pagans and infidels. the ir religions were completely different, and what we see in the stories of Quran are infact about the same monotheistic god, and the characters are the same, however the Prophet was told diffrently by the angel Jibril(Gabriel in jewish ). and he told a different story to Prophet, than what he told to jews :D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:10 pm:       


Ipc302:

anduke mana lanti vallani muddhuga pagans ani sambodhistharu..



adhe kadha lafoot galu
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:08 pm:       

basic ga appudu unna nature worshipping religions/tribes/culture ki anti ga start ayyayi ee religions antha...anduke mana lanti vallani muddhuga pagans ani sambodhistharu...contrary to what these religions call themselves, they are backwards regressive to every religion that was ever present...
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:05 pm:       


Asdf:

adi telsankul. europe kante mundu kerala lo matham start aindi :D


how?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 12:02 pm:       


Mental_sachinodu:

they are the same stories.



Sony:



Ibrahim-Ishaq-Ishmail story in Islam book oka laa untadi
Abraham-Issac-Issamel story in jews book oka laa untadi


i mean they are same characters.....but story representation is different

Now Abraham Issac ni bali ivadaniki veltadu as Gods Command and Ram comes in place of Issac - Jews story


Now Ibrahim tana son ni bali ivadaniki veltadu seeing a dream as Witch appearance and no mention of ram in place of the son (????) - islam story

same stories ki versions unnayi

xians wrote the testament thinking hebew bible as a source and accepting it right material

islam wrote their stories from their tribes (arabs) who were seperated eventually from Abraham/ibrahim son Ismail
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:57 am:       


Sony:

all these characters repeat....now each book got changed over the time, stories also look same





vunl, characters repeat avvatam kaadhi.. they are the same characters. they are the same stories. essentially they follow the same god, and prophets and same level of tolerance when it comes to non-believers.

the main difference is in Islam however, even politics is controlled by God's word.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:55 am:       


Asdf:

*jehovah

jesus ani raasina kooda desam lo •••• anataniki reason ide naa?




J is anglicised representation.

there is no letter J in hebrew.

Yeshua - actual translatuon is Joshua - i read some where that Yeshua translates to Lesous in latin and which translates to Jesus in English.

in essence they are all the same. Straight translation form Yeshua - is apparently Yeshu

same goes with
Joseph - its Yosef in jewish, and Yousuf in arabic
Jacob - its Yakov in jewish and Yakub in arabic
abraham - its abram in jewish, ibrahim in arabic
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:55 am:       

Jews, Xians, Islam all 3 think God is supreme and never made it to earth and only speak to Human representatives like Moses, Jesus, Prophet respectively
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:53 am:       

all 3 religions (xians, jews, islam) have simillar ideologies also each holy book of them have same characters repeating

for instance

Abraham(Jews, xians) - Ibrahim (islam)
Issac(Jews, xians) - ishaq (islam)
Ishmael (jews, xians) - Ismail (islam)
Solomon (jews, xians) - Sulaiman (islam)
David (jews, xians) - Dawood (islam)
Moses (jews, xians) - Musa (islam)
Jesus (xians) - eesa (islam)

all these characters repeat....now each book got changed over the time, stories also look same


Ibrahim-Ishaq-Ishmail story in Islam book oka laa untadi
Abraham-Issac-Issamel story in jews book oka laa untadi

now these testaments were changed over the course/ Old testament lo unna stories Quran lo kuda untayi.....now versions are different

Old testament kuda changed ane anukuntuna
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:43 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

yehovah




*jehovah :D

jesus ani raasina kooda desam lo anataniki reason ide naa?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:39 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

whites are actually out-siders to christianity.




adi telsankul. europe kante mundu kerala lo matham start aindi :D


Mental_sachinodu:

there are some resources that out of the 12 tribes atleast one of them is black.




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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:36 am:       


Buduguuu:

hmm.. ante jesus ane vadu god kaada? who is the god that wants to destroy the earth?




he is referred to yehovah(its actually a derivate) in jewish. Jesus is the son of god.


Buduguuu:

I have a friend who argues that what ever is there in todays bible is what is there is hebrew bible as well.. not a single word is altered from that. he calls it thora or something.



this is true if he is talking about old testament, if he is talking about new testament its buss...

and actually GOD did not write it. GOD only gave 10 commandments to Moses. rest all is written by humans, but ofcourse GOD gave the knowledge.

For christians, Jesus is the only route to GOD. there is no other way, not even the jewish way.

for muslims, following Quran is the only way. not even the Prophet.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:35 am:       

Inquistion ani kottu google lo ... ika nee opika ..for a start check the wikipedia article on inquisition ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

Galileo ni sun is the center of our planetary system annanduku jail lo pettindi inquistion gang ae ...LOL
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:34 am:       


Buduguuu:


buddu ..inquisition...yekkadoo yenduku...mana deggaridhi chaduvu ...and upscale it to all over the world where new places likes like central, south america were discovered


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Inquisition

While its ostensible aim was to preserve the Catholic faith, the Inquisition was used against Indian Catholics and Hindus and also against Portuguese settlers from Europe (mostly New Christians and Jews but also Old Christians) as an instrument of social control, as well as a method of confiscating property and enriching the Inquisitors.[3]
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:30 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

As it is self evident, Old Testament does not have anything related to Jesus. The new testament has gospels and stories about Jesus (Son of GOD). Conversion batch use chesedhi mainly New Testament. Old Testament GOD is too violent, vengeful to be used for conversion (my opinion)




I have a friend who argues that what ever is there in todays bible is what is there is hebrew bible as well.. not a single word is altered from that. he calls it thora or something.

Nihil:

1) Inquisition : People who are not xtians are murdered on the pretext of this or that. Middle ages lo women no witchcraft perutho lakhsaladi mandi ni lepesaru. Protestant vs Catholics lepesukunnaru. Jews ni lepesaru. Thurakollatho Crusades ani cheppi pandaga chesaru




can you delve more deeper into this, if its not a trouble for you. specific ga edanna instances cheppagalara relating them to bible or christianity?

Mental_sachinodu:

Jesus, Son of GOD, basically the christian theology is based on "Sinfulness of MAN", when GOD gets fed up with how immoral humans are and decides to destroy the earth, Jesus, takes it on him to put them on path, and by offering himself , takes the punishment for all the sins humans ever made, and will make. So as long as any human till now or in the future, take true faith in him, their sins are washed away by Jesus, as he already bore punishment for his followers.




hmm.. ante jesus ane vadu god kaada? who is the god that wants to destroy the earth?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:21 am:       


Nihil:

But in practice xtian antha neecham, darunam history lo nobody matches except thuraks




vunkl,
in my view jews are no less in this aspect. there were no wars for GOD, or GOD dictated wars till Jews started them. appati everyone was secular, okadu chettuki, inkokadu putta ki, inkokadu nene devunni anukune vaaru... no issues at all(GOD wise)
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:16 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

So as long as any human till now or in the future, take true faith in him, their sins are washed away by Jesus, as he already bore punishment for his followers.




idedo future deviations in pricing taken into account already at the current price laaga undi :D
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:16 am:       

I have not read bible...literal ga andulo emundo ledo teliyadu

But in practice xtian antha neecham, darunam history lo nobody matches except thuraks

1) Inquisition : People who are not xtians are murdered on the pretext of this or that. Middle ages lo women no witchcraft perutho lakhsaladi mandi ni lepesaru. Protestant vs Catholics lepesukunnaru. Jews ni lepesaru. Thurakollatho Crusades ani cheppi pandaga chesaru

Mana India lo Goan inquistion by Portuguese is very famous. Saraswat brahmins ni lepesaru/migilina vallani convert chesi beef thinipincharu

2) Slavery: nalla vallani millions africa nunchi techi slaves, bonded labor.
they had supported this in the name of some passages in bible...page number17...para no3..vakyam 7..gudilo guggilam .. types

3) Colonialism: Vere desala meeda padi dengesaru in the name of better civilization etc bullcrap (South america, north america, asia is gone to dogs)

untouchability is a blot in hindusim, but compared to the above we are saints by any measure.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:14 am:       


Buduguuu:



can you shed more light on this? new testament enti old enti? naku hinduism meede pedda idea ledu. so christianity is out of scope. sorry for basic doubts unkel.




Old testament is the hebrew bible, which Jews consider their bible. it was written by various soruces. the old testament is also used by christians but only is first part of their bible. the second part is called the new testament, which was originally written in greek.

As it is self evident, Old Testament does not have anything related to Jesus. The new testament has gospels and stories about Jesus (Son of GOD). Conversion batch use chesedhi mainly New Testament. Old Testament GOD is too violent, vengeful to be used for conversion :D(my opinion)




Buduguuu:

who is god here? jesus or a much superior one to him?



Jesus, Son of GOD, basically the christian theology is based on "Sinfulness of MAN", when GOD gets fed up with how immoral humans are and decides to destroy the earth, Jesus, takes it on him to put them on path, and by offering himself , takes the punishment for all the sins humans ever made, and will make. So as long as any human till now or in the future, take true faith in him, their sins are washed away by Jesus, as he already bore punishment for his followers.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:07 am:       


Humpty_dumpty:

these books were written by men...surprise yemi undhi deenla?





well. christians claim that bible is actual preahcings/story of jesus and there are no manipulations what so ever. the actual hebrew bible based on which todays english bible is made is still intact and thats the base for christianity ani cheptu untaru kada. i mean essential ga bible doesnt say that jesus is 1 lakh years old blah blah kada
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:06 am:       


Buduguuu:


who is god here? jesus or a much superior one to him?


son (jesus) father and holy spirit....trinity concept....
Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians. ~Franklin P. Jones"
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:04 am:       


Mental_sachinodu:

Bible does not endorse untouchability, but it does indicate that untouchability existed in those regions. Ofcourse we are talking about new testament.




can you shed more light on this? new testament enti old enti? naku hinduism meede pedda idea ledu. so christianity is out of scope. sorry for basic doubts unkel.

Mental_sachinodu:

yes Bible has inherent racism in it along with xenophobic, slavery, sexist and homophobic ideas. For Instance, Jews are the chosen people, GOD orders to hang jews who marry into tribes who are not jewish and kill any non Jewish folks living in the promise land.




who is god here? jesus or a much superior one to him?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 11:03 am:       


Buduguuu:


not related to topic b/w below link...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_James_Matamoros
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/14676 21/Public-outcry-forces-church-to-keep-Moor-Slayers-statue.h tml
Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians. ~Franklin P. Jones"
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 10:58 am:       


Buduguuu:

bible lo edo curse untadi nallodi ga pudatav



malli putte concept ledu....the curse story u r referring to is 'Curse of Ham'. God destroys Ham-ites who had darker skin. THis story is used to support slavery(Till couple decades ago, slavery was supported by many mainline christian sects including Southern Baptists, Mormons etc.,)

An example of using this story
https://archive.org/details/bibledefenceofsl00inprie
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 10:57 am:       


Buduguuu:

hristianity lo untoubality or exclusion from society ane concept unda? history lo edanna recorded evidences unnaya? or bible references?




Bible does not endorse untouchability, but it does indicate that untouchability existed in those regions. Ofcourse we are talking about new testament.

yes Bible has inherent racism in it along with xenophobic, slavery, sexist and homophobic ideas. For Instance, Jews are the chosen people, GOD orders to hang jews who marry into tribes who are not jewish and kill any non Jewish folks living in the promise land.


Buduguuu:

bible lo edo curse untadi nallodi ga pudatav. banisa la untav type lo. is this correct?




this is not true as far as I know, but this was used to support slavery(of blacks) using Bible. in the story of able and cain, the first children of man kind, cain the first one to be born, and able the first one to die(killed by cain), GOD marks Cain so people know who he is, and many thought blacks where descendants of Cain, as he marked Cain with black color. there is no mention of this any whee in the bible.


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bible raase naatiki nallod vunnadu ani jerusalem yoodulaki yerukanaa?



what are you talking vunkl.. whites are actually out-siders to christianity. all three of these brutal religions are from the same belt, north african and middle eastern mix.
there are some resources that out of the 12 tribes atleast one of them is black.
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 10:09 am:       

these books were written by men...surprise yemi undhi deenla?

master - slave set up was there since past 3000 yrs till devudu MLK days came onto scene 40 yrs ago
biblical writings were used by proponents of slavery
same bible was used by lincoln taatha to eradicate 'savages' - native tribes
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 10:06 am:       


Asdf:

bible raase naatiki nallod vunnadu ani jerusalem yoodulaki yerukanaa?




telvadi unkel. netflix lo bible secrets ani docu undi. andla chusanu .
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 10:05 am:       


Buduguuu:

bible lo edo curse untadi nallodi ga pudatav




bible raase naatiki nallod vunnadu ani jerusalem yoodulaki yerukanaa?
 

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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2015 - 09:59 am:       

unkels..

christianity lo untoubality or exclusion from society ane concept unda? history lo edanna recorded evidences unnaya? or bible references?


chocolat ani cinema chusta unna monna. andulo oka sect of ppl ni oorloki raneeyakuudadu type lo untadi. inko docu chusa. bible lo edo curse untadi nallodi ga pudatav. banisa la untav type lo. is this correct?

for the seculars pls keep this thread for christianity. if you want to discuss about hinduism and untoubality, pls disco it in seperate thread. sicnere request

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