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Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12109 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
gawt it. | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1695 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
adi lite theesuko....judges oorake comments chesthuntaaru without effect......that case is about a muslim employee of UP govt not informing the govt before marrying his second wife. UP govt has rules that its employee has to inform it before marrying. Case is whether this 'informing the govt' is constitutional or not. Not whether polygamy is legal or not. Anyway this is muslim personal law....vaallu elaa cheskunte enti kaani It upheld the UP government's decision to sack one of its employees on the ground of misconduct for opting for a second marriage during existence of the first marriage without its prior permission. The bench upheld conduct rules framed by UP Government Servant Conduct Rules, saying that it did not violate Article 25 of the Constitution. | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12108 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
fun fact/myth : marriage laws religious basis meeda techindi hindus ani vinnanu. baaga vaadesindi aithe vallu kaadu  | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1694 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
quite the opposite. TMA Pai case lo court said if a school is not funded by govt, govt cannot interfere how school should be run(admissions, fee tc.,). Earlire minority schools had freedom. TMA Pai gave same privilege to Hindu-run schools also. Then UPA made the amendment. To meddle in private schools(which does not receive public funding.) - except minorities, even if they receive public money. This is what is 93rd amendment. Any law you make in edu doesn't apply to minorities(even if they are aided by govt), according to this. Example is RTE. RTE doesn't apply to minorities but applies to Hindus - because of the amendment. Read links in my previous post. | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12105 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan //The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience"./// | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12104 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
ee ishayam vallaki aina telusa? just google some high profile ones like ex haryana deputy cm etc. | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2818 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
I said we should not blame current generation religious minorities for what happened few centuries ago. Similarly, the current generation lower castes, should not blame current generation upper castes for the discrimination happened earlier. It is like punishing the son no, because his father was a thief. Our founding fathers has made provisions for equal opportunities to everyone in the country and be proud that current generation has been living upto the spirit. !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2817 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
absolutely! !ntfi | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1693 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
nenu intrepret cheyyadam lo carried away naaa........ honestly I don't have time......go read Pramati vs Union of India(2014) judgment. minority certificate unte moksham(who gives minority certificate anedi koodaa UPA made a minority-only NCMEI which is unconstitutional - currently there is a case in Allahabad high court on this.) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Minority-c ard-is-passport-to-freedom-from-RTE/articleshow/42399797.cms http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rte-not-applicable- to-minority-schools-sc/article1-1216632.aspx http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/RAJ-JPR-right-to-education- schools-chase-minority-status-3329365.html This is how schools run by Hindus are being harassed...Criminal cases koodaa pedthnunaaru for not admitting under RTE http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/Schools-ha lt-expansion-plans-cite-harassment/articleshow/48430588.cms http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/3-Schools-A dmit-Kids-Under-RTE-After-Rap/2015/04/09/article2755120.ece http://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/ahmedabad/others/Face-FIR-if- RTE-Act-is-violated-HC-tells-schools/articleshow/46627605.cm s RTE is just one of the many things | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2816 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
It was people who wanted the State to intervene management of temples and demanded to consider temples as public spaces. That triggered State control of temples. It was century old issue. A brief explanation is given here http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/reforms-in-the-house-o f-god/article5570711.ece It's at the discretion of the States rather than Union. Over a period of time, State took control of most of the temples. It would be pertinent to recall what the central Commission on Hindu Religious Endowments constituted in 1960 observed about the situation in South India where temples had been under statuary regulation for decades. The commission, to its satisfaction, found most of the large temples fairly well administered and that “many of the gross abuses” are “happily absent”. It also quickly added that this does not mean that there is no need for further reforms. Marc Galanter’s Law and Society in Modern India explains that the constitutional mandate enables law to perform an arbitral role. Legal measures do not have to be confined to ascertaining a preordained religious sphere. Where reforms are needed, the state can implement them. In this context, even rights provided by Article 26 are not unfettered. Another informative article on this http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/freeing-temples-from-st ate-control/article5594132.ece Later the public narrative has become such that govt. is controlling Hindu religious institutes but not of other religions. A typical brainwashing of rss/bjp-school !ntfi | ||
Gatti_gunde Megastar Username: Gatti_gunde Post Number: 20346 Registered: 02-2010 Posted From: 98.169.49.179 Rating: N/A |
 Boob annai ni kindhesi thanthe DB set aithadhi | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12102 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 76.109.165.236 Rating: N/A |
so desam lo muslims cannot marry more than one? | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2815 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
The Indian State has been upholding the equality of citizens and been trying to end all the forms of discrimination. Can you cite some examples than just making allegations? 14. Equality before law.—The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India. 15. Prohibition of discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth.—(1) The State shall not discriminate again !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2814 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
That was on the basis of "Cultural & Educational Rights to Minorities in Constitution". Check here on what protection of interests of minorrities is about 29. Protection of interests of minorities.—(1) Any section of the citizens residing in the territory of India or any part thereof having a distinct language, script or culture of its own shall have the right to conserve the same. (2) No citizen shall be denied admission into any educational institution maintained by the State or receiving aid out of State funds on grounds only of religion, race, caste, language or any of them. 30. Right of minorities to establish and administer educational institutions. — (1) All minorities, whether based on religion or language, shall have the right to establish and administer educational institutions of their choice. The amendment means States cannot make laws(like reservations) for EBCs, SCs/STs Minorities to join in minority educational institutions. However, all the minority institutions should adhere to the norms set by regulatory authorities of State & Union. May be somewhere, you got carried away in interpreting this amendment. Later SC has scrutinised this amendment and gave a ruling that this amendment did not violate basic structure of Constitution. http://courtnic.nic.in/supremecourt/temp/wc%2026506p.txt !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2813 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
Am speaking about places like these. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PRMsc1lWVMQ/VX6DoRo5vsI/AAAAAAAABb 4/8jGa4Cmxpu4/s1600/mosque-temple-bangalore.jpg They outnumber the symbolic Hindu-Muslim conflict religious places that are used to instigate hatred between the communities. Irony is we ignore the communal harmony in our day to day lives, and make opinions on conflicts happened in the past, and continue to believe that the discrimination is continuing. !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2812 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
Supreme Court gave a ruling on this On February 10, 2015, the Indian Supreme Court ruled that polygamy was not an integral part of Islam and justified the firing of a Uttar Pradesh government employee for violating UP Government Servant Rules following his marriage to a second woman. Justices TK Thakur and AK Goel stated, "What was protected under Article 25 (right to practice and propagate any religion) was the religious faith and not a practice which may run counter to public order, health or morality. Polygamy was not integral part of religion and monogamy was a reform within the power of the State under Article 25." http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Polygamy-not-integr al-part-of-Islam-SC/articleshow/46180105.cms http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/three-is-a- crowd/ SC helped in religious reforms many a times. A fact that we conveniently ignore. !ntfi | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 39675 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 192.251.134.5 Rating: |
evadu cheppadu including akbar jajhiya tax esaru madhyalo konnallu lift sesaru | ||
Mushin Junior Artist Username: Mushin Post Number: 657 Registered: 05-2015 Posted From: 17.82.125.224 Rating: N/A |
 ee secularism ani maatladetollani oo saari muslim areas ki velli secularism preach chesi rammanali....cut chesi chethilo petti pamputharu...ground situation gurinchi 1% idea undadhu...aaattt revolution anukuntu books sadivi secularism hindu muslim bhai bhai ani sollu cheptaru..... | ||
Tilak Legend Username: Tilak Post Number: 31905 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 49.207.188.170 Rating: N/A |
who cares? jaffa gadu .. Gujarat gurinchi raaseppudu kanisam okka sari kuda Somnath ransacking gurtu raaledu .. but idi raasesadu sodhi fellow .. selective ga truth ni present chesi .. janam ni mabhya pettalani trying .. LOL
Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1692 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: |
There was no "ban" on NGOs. Those who didn't file returns - registrations canceled. Earlier govt also did some.(Apart from bringing big org like Ford Foundation under FEMA - this NGO was not on paper till now which is staggering.) Those who are receiving & filing - they are working as usual. | ||
Happyguy415 Junior Artist Username: Happyguy415 Post Number: 512 Registered: 01-2014 Posted From: 73.231.67.46 Rating: N/A |
edichi edichi chastunnaarugaa.... modati saari non-INC poorthi aadhikyata (majority) tho gelichindani  asalu aa NGOs banning maatram kekoooooooo keka. DNK gaallu tax returns koodaa file cheyyaranta. | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17847 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.1 Rating: N/A |
india lo plularism and tolerance gurinchi nijamga cheppali ante..write abt parsis and how india was the only country who took them and gave them life.. write abt jews..motham prapancham tarumuthu unte india kadupulo pettukuni choosukundi.. anthe kaani..systematic destruction chesina barbarians gala ugravadani downplay chesthu sollu rasthe..candidate background batti tala oopamante how.. | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17846 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.1 Rating: N/A |
simple kochen..y don't we have temples anywhere in afghan pak(except 1 or 2)..and if u go to north india most of the temples r in rotten situation..u don't see wealth like in south indian temples..but at the same time mosques pak afghan north india south teda ledu..kala kala laduthunayi.. any reajon? muslim rulers hindu rulersuu destructionlo ichi puchukunaru kadha..andharu same kadha destructionlo....alage muslims rulers hinduski entho help chesar kadha.. mari okapudu predominant hindu areas ayina pak afghanlo temples anavaalu evi rao garlu? ee padmabushan author kurrodini adagandi.. http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2013/05/what-is-indian-se cularism/ | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17845 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.122.1 Rating: N/A |
But such actions were not the monopoly of the followers of any one particular religion. A Hindu ruler of the eleventh century, Harsha of Kashmir, melted images in Hindu temples, and a Hindu general cut down the Bo-tree in Bodhgaya. Shaivites and Vaishnavites, Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains, Sunnis and Shias quarrelled and frequently pillaged each others’ shrines. When the Sikhs conquered Sirhind in 1764, they deliberately destroyed all buildings, including the mosques. There is no room for generalisations about bigotry applicable only to Muslims.<<<<<<< this is where I want to stop reading the article.. author is trying to quote isolated incidents from other religions and trying to equate that to systematic destruction and conversion by sword carried out by Islamic invaders.. Aurangzeb believed that his religious zeal would secure him not just merit in heaven but the loyalty of his restive Muslim subjects. In parallel actions he sought to win over the Hindus in his empire by land grants to temples. Such temples as he did destroy were located mostly in areas which were in political revolt. how convenient..any proof to backup this?? What were the roots? How many years would you go back, 5000, 50000? We don't even have a clue what religion was followed by the majority in those days, but want to impose the majority religion by Batra's statements. Foundations of our country are on pluralism & tolerance, and govt. in it's current form should not have state religion.<<<< anything born and broughtup in indian subcontient..its acheivements .all the dharmic culture etc..those r the roots.. batra statements? then plz don't quote me..i did not read any of his statements.. and reg plularistic society..who is saying no? Hinduism itself is pluralistic..pluaristic society<> sickularism..I hate sickularism(called as secularism in india) = licking particular grp, not able to call spade a spade, trying to quote isolated incidents from other religions and equating that to hundreds of years of terrox activites perpetuated by particular grp etc etc etc.. That's common in politics. Some acts of politics doesn't give license to anyone to call names on majority and hurt many of our countrymen on their spirit of secularism. Even the party that promised to protect the religious belief's of the majority has failed to do so over several times. << mare..nuvvu mathram communal forces anukuntu tiragacha? what makes u think ur pluralistic and other view is communal?ninna oka post choosa needhi..RSS= IxSxiS types edho annav..mari? | ||
Happyguy415 Junior Artist Username: Happyguy415 Post Number: 509 Registered: 01-2014 Posted From: 73.231.67.46 Rating: N/A |
Yeah that's the "so called" secularism...when in fact it is "sick"ularism | ||
Happyguy415 Junior Artist Username: Happyguy415 Post Number: 508 Registered: 01-2014 Posted From: 73.231.67.46 Rating: |
Annai, Simple gaa cheppaalante...No body...no conscious Indian has any objections to "either Secularism or those who practice other/no religion".... If you think only one party is portraying it...then it becomes a political discussion, not a discussion on "Secularism". You decide what you want to discuss on. Bottomline as per politics - 3 things should happen in India (even if they take 2 years or 2000 years...they should happen for betterment): 1. Uniform Civil Code 2. Reservation Reforms 3. Either temples out of Govt Control OR Bring all religious institutions under Govt Control. rest all mee tadika | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1683 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 151.193.220.27 Rating: N/A |
: head_banging | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 55490 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
today's secularism is anti-national. no doubt about it. Votes kosamo/meppu kosamoo tappu ni tappu ani cheppleni yedavathaname secularism. | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 55489 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
ivvala tellal attacks ki aurangzeb ki relation entoo mari...! | ||
Asdf Hero Username: Asdf Post Number: 12001 Registered: 12-2014 Posted From: 205.157.66.4 Rating: |
same logic, we should not blame upper castes for what happened 100s of years ago? | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1682 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 151.193.220.28 Rating: |
nuvvu emi maatlaaduthunnaavo...ikkada current politicians/Indian state practise chese "secularism" gurinchi discuss chesthunte(giving special rights to Muslims/Christins etc.,)........entento maatlaaduthunnaav enti | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 40074 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.248.7 Rating: N/A |
 Aurangzeb chesina arachakalu have written off any good that his predecessors did ante.. PRP-NTR-CBN..what re..chuss | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 55487 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
what a joke man..! Congress was given power by majority of ppl.when he merged his party into congress, it was for the best interests of the state. neeku nachaledu anooo, narasimha lo ramya krishna ki nachaledu anoo adhi bad decision kaadu...democratic ga rules follow ayyi merge chesaru....majority of PRP MLAs voted for merging.....laws gurunchi matlade nuvvu ikkada side track avvatam vicharakaram | ||
Saint Legend Username: Saint Post Number: 55486 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132 Rating: N/A |
everyone equally? where in india or USA? constitution lone special rights kontha mandiki itcharu...politicians danini amend chesi thama votebanks ki extend cehsukunnaru...ekkada vundi equality? its a big farse. few hunderds of years aa? u must be sleeping all along....tellals majority oka vargam nunche enduku vasthunnaru? literal ga prathodu oka muslim ni chooshte enduku shake avuthunnaru? India lo okko religion okko rule aa? temples pai vache adayam govt dobbesthundi...and they dont do the same for other religion temples.Muslim personal law board laws follow avutharu...polygomy allowed.... did you ever question this? asala equality annav antene nuvvu entha convineent ga neeku avasarm lenivi ignore cheshtunnavoo ardham avuthundi? | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2810 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.21 Rating: N/A |
NTR ni vennupotu podichi.. CBN CM ayte prajalu NTR ni marchi poyyara? YS hayam lo Jaggad avineethi jestee.. janalu YS ni thappu pattara? Ala ani.. PRP petti, congress lo merge chesi fans ni naakinchesina Churi/PK/Allu-bava meeda kopam Cherry/Bunny meeda chupinchaara? !ntfi | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 40073 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.8 Rating: N/A |
vaade last recognized Mughal emperor of that dynasty.. so whatever "peaceful" co-existence existed before him would have been wiped out by him....agree ?? | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2808 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.21 Rating: N/A |
!ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2807 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.21 Rating: N/A |
After 1947, our founding fathers have created a Constitution that treats everyone equally. We don't have to blame the current generation religious minorities for what has happened few hundreds of years ago. Communities and societies have changed significantly, with the changed regime structures, available information and proven coexistence. Before & during World war - 2, Nazis killed Jews in thousands. Now they have annual trade of over $2 billions. THey are uncomfortable with what happened in history, but found peace and supporting each other. !ntfi | ||
Rajusk Legend Username: Rajusk Post Number: 40071 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.231.8 Rating: |
so ippudu Kasi/Mathura temples pakkana unna mosques ni ..avi kooda Aurangazeb kattinavi..matha samarasyam (Secularism) ki symbols..aa oh my Babri masjid..kathi ekkada..railway track ekkada.. | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2805 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.21 Rating: N/A |
!ntfi | ||
Mushin Junior Artist Username: Mushin Post Number: 646 Registered: 05-2015 Posted From: 17.82.126.26 Rating: N/A |
undeniable truth} | ||
Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 39659 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 117.193.143.131 Rating: N/A |
sodi poo article | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1681 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
I am not sure what is being discussed here. You posted link of distorted history and not sure what that is about. So those Muslim rulers were secular? If yes, a party which says "minorities have first rights" (and Indian state) is secular in the sense Muslim rulers were secular. 1) The link in your initial post is a joke. It is Irfan Habib's school of distortion,. To see the atrocities perpetrated by Mughals(Akbar also waged Jihad against Hindus in early life but turned non-believer in later life. You can find this in Bada'uni's records) and other Muslim rulers including Tipu - you don't have to read any blogs. You can simply read Muslim records like Baburnama where they proudly claim waging jihaad on Hindus. 2) "Whatever may the intentions of other religions that came to the Indian sub-continent, these religions assimilated with the locals" That is because Hindus don't have the concept of false religion or false gods and tolerate and Hindus are more in number perhaps? Anyway what has this got to do with this discussion? Isn't this discussion abt certain political parties' version of secularism? | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 3405 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 106.51.18.61 Rating: N/A |
Kindal..how can you have saying that liten is crying..when he is posting the very much like you posting but in other way... Mosques near temples-- I have this point to discuss in the starting of this thread but by seeing the posts already... Didn't feel like to highlight.. But urself mentioned it..y do u think so they happened to be like that ? From Vijayawada, staying in Bangalore | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2802 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.19 Rating: N/A |
Indian sub-continent has been the land of tolerance and pluralism. Whatever may the intentions of other religions that came to the Indian sub-continent, these religions assimilated with the locals and as a society the region (post-Independent India) has changed the nature of those religions. You are missing the timeline and the change that happened all these years. How do you explain the Churches/Temples in South and Mosques/Temples in North located next to each other and both the communities living in harmony? This evolved over many generations. !ntfi | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1680 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
Forget abt history.....what is happening now......An example is 93rd amendment to Indian constitution..... http://indiankanoon.org/doc/1390531/ In this case, court decided that Hindus have the same rights as minorities in running educational instiutions....that is court granted equal rights to Hindus which only non-Hindus were having before this judgement(There is a secondary type of minorty -linguistic, which Karnataka high court didn;t accord same benefits as for religious minorities) Congress govt brought in third amendment....BJP dhimmis didn't object to this http://indiacode.nic.in/coiweb/amend/amend93.htm "(5) Nothing in this article or in sub-clause (g) of clause (1) of article 19 shall prevent the State from making any special provision, by law, for the advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of citizens or for the Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tribes in so far as such special provisions relate to their admission to educational institutions including private educational institutions, whether aided or unaided by the State, other than the minority educational institutions referred to in clause (1) of article 30." Impact of this is laws/rules on edu inst doesn;t apply to minorities. Example is if YS Jagan runs a school/college, he has full autonomy and whatever but if his supporter pulpfiction wants to run a school, he has to start with a sarkari babu's essentiality certificate... One rule for Hindus and another rule for others.....this kind of "secularism" is not practised anywhere(perhaps in Saudi Arabia in the reverse direction, giving special rights to majority) | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1679 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
Anna, everyone doesn't fall for credentialism annaa......I gave primary sources ....letters or books which quote original sources annaa.....not some opinion on some blog annaa.... | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2800 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.19 Rating: N/A |
Article raasindi noted historian Sarvepalli Gopal. Mana Telugu athane. He also got Padma Vibushan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvepalli_Gopal manaki edavadaniki comedy cheyyadaniki.. evaru raaste emundi le anna.. you continue crying. !ntfi | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1678 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: N/A |
Another thing is projecting Sufis as moderate......Many Hindus today visit Ajmer Dargah of Khwaja Moinuddin Chisthi or Nizamuddin Aulia in Delhi Here are their views on Jihaaaad on Hindus https://books.google.com/books?id=uHNddAz5cfAC&pg=PA122&lpg= PA123&focus=viewport&dq=auliya%27s+thought+on+jihad#v=onepag e&q=auliya%27s%20thought%20on%20jihad&f=false | ||
Lichtenberg Comedian Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 1677 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 76.184.139.27 Rating: |
http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2013/05/what-is-indian-se cularism/ evaru babu idi raasina comedy fellow...... tipu sultan aa ...LOL....just read what is written on his sword...LOL.....
LOL......you will see such justifications for ISIS actions in future....
Really? Here is letter from Saint Xavier(after whom various colleges/inst in India are named) ...his own words...on new converts http://legacy.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1543xavier1.asp Their hatred for idolatry is marvellous. They get into feuds with the heathen about it, and whenever their own parents practise it, they reproach them and come off to tell me at once. Whenever I hear of any act of idolatrous worship, I go to the place with a large band of these children, who very soon load the devil with a greater amount of insult and abuse than he has lately received of honor and worship from their parents, relations, and acquaintances. The children run at the idols, upset them, dash them down, break them to pieces, spit on them, trample on them, kick them about, and in short heap on them every possible outrage. Forget abt this....in Kerala a Hindu king gave refuge to Syrian Christians but as soon as Portuguese landed in India, they sent a letter to the POrtuguese pledging allegiance to Portuguese king(saying heir Christian king) and to convert heathens(Portuguese didn't consider them "real" Christians and tortured/killed them just like they tortured/killed HIndus) | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2799 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.19 Rating: N/A |
That's common in politics. Some acts of politics doesn't give license to anyone to call names on majority and hurt many of our countrymen on their spirit of secularism. Even the party that promised to protect the religious belief's of the majority has failed to do so over several times.
What were the roots? How many years would you go back, 5000, 50000? We don't even have a clue what religion was followed by the majority in those days, but want to impose the majority religion by Batra's statements. Foundations of our country are on pluralism & tolerance, and govt. in it's current form should not have state religion. !ntfi | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2798 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.19 Rating: N/A |
That's based on many reforms & administrative set-ups established during entire Mughals era. Other than Aurangzeb, rest of the Mughal rulers were tolerant. The Mughal Empire ruled hundreds of millions of people. India became united under one rule, and had very prosperous cultural and political years during the Mughal rule. Jehangir lacked the political enterprise of his father Akbar. But he was an honest man and a tolerant ruler. He strived to reform society and was tolerant towards Hindus, Christians and Jews. However, relations with Sikhs were strained Sher Shah Suri (1540-1545): was an Afghan leader who took over the Mughal Empire after defeating Humayun in 1540. Sher Shah occupied the throne of Delhi for not more than five years, but his reign proved to be a landmark in the Sub-continent. As a king, he has several achievements in his credit. He established an efficient public administration. He set up a revenue collection system based on the measurement of land. Justice was provided to the common man. Numerous civil works were carried out during his short reign; planting of trees, wells and building of Sarai (inns) for travellers was done. Roads were laid; it was under his rule that the Grand Trunk road from Delhi to Kabul was built. The currency was also changed to finely minted silver coins called Dam Akbar set up a host of institutions that proved to be the foundation of an administrative system that operated even in British India. Akbar's rule also stands out due to his liberal policies towards the non-Muslims, his religious innovations, the land revenue system and his famous Mansabdari system. Akbar's Mansabdari system became the basis of Mughal military organization and civil administration. http://knowindia.gov.in/knowindia/culture_heritage.php?id=8 !ntfi | ||
Ruj Hero Username: Ruj Post Number: 17844 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 170.202.222.2 Rating: N/A |
Today's secularism has been painted as anti-national by other communal forces for political convenience.<< i'll read the article later...but what is painted anti national is not secularism..but sickularism or pseudosecularism.. that evolved from congress and other like minded parties ideologies of appeasing religious minorities at the expense of hinduism and communist ideology of abhorring Hinduism under the mask of atheism.. now this sickular ideology is followed by many other parties as suited and applicable to them.... no one or atleast I don't have issues with secularism or even better an 'ism' which respects and celebrates the country roots while letting other religions co exist....like in US where Christianity is celebrated officially but other religions have all the freedom.. | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2796 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
communal political statements ni serious ga theeskovaddu ani naa idi !ntfi | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 3404 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.144.58.37 Rating: N/A |
by the way, nuvvicchina link lo mughals time lo hindus prospered ani undhi...what's the basis for it? From Vijayawada, staying in Bangalore | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 3403 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.144.58.37 Rating: N/A |
browse chesthunte kanapadindhi..just shared From Vijayawada, staying in Bangalore | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2795 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
ippudu emi cheyyali antaru? !ntfi | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 3402 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.144.58.37 Rating: N/A |
same content in other link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuMa1c2C3HQ From Vijayawada, staying in Bangalore | ||
Prasanth Side Hero Username: Prasanth Post Number: 3401 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 59.144.58.37 Rating: N/A |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6-zrGZ8dec From Vijayawada, staying in Bangalore | ||
Kindal Side Hero Username: Kindal Post Number: 2793 Registered: 09-2007 Posted From: 14.139.128.20 Rating: N/A |
Read this article to understand what secularism in India is about. http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/2013/05/what-is-indian-se cularism/ Today's secularism has been painted as anti-national by other communal forces for political convenience. !ntfi |
