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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 01:04 am:       


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Great points. Thank you!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:57 am:       


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Election year lo job notification issue chesi, unemployed ni please chesi votes dandukovachu kada? Why don't governments do this?




they issue notification only for empty posts.. rarely for new posts.

"barthi cheyyalsina postlu..." ani news lo chadivithey.. that means some have retired... but Govt. didnt do recruitment process and fill those spots..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:53 am:       


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My take:
notification anedi... amount of work batti untadi... say some X department lo 200 ppl working anuko... every year 10 or 15 retire aythey... aa 10 or 15 ki notification ivvataniki aa departmnet lo IAS officer should take permission from state secretary and then issue notification.

If no. of govt workers need to be increased. I think it should become law... passed in assembly either at the time of Budget or separate law... or GO then notification process is done and notification is issued.

last 2-3 years lo notifications evaithey retired aypoyina replacements ki ivvalo.. avi apesi... anni empty jobs ki okey saari notification release chestharu...

Govt. can increase jobs.. but it has to approve in Budget first.. and then amount is allocated to that department for salaries.. then notification is issued...

if Govt takes any number of people.. then they will not have budget for popular schemes.. so balancing act akkada jaruguthadi...
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:51 am:       


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fiscal deficit norms vunnay it has to be below a certain % of gdp. So beaurocrasy is loathe to NY increse in non planned expenditure so akkada ninche vastundi major opposition




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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:48 am:       


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fiscal deficit norms vunnay it has to be below a certain % of gdp. So beaurocrasy is loathe to NY increse in non planned expenditure so akkada ninche vastundi major opposition
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:46 am:       


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Govt meeda padi tine employees ekkuva .. productivity takkuva India lo .. inka ekkuva govt employees deniki? unna unproductive employees ni elagola downsize chesi vadilinchukovali ..



I agree. I think govt. must move towards contract hiring rather than hiring for 35 years in one go! It is extremely hard to forecast requirements for 5 years let alone 35 years!
But I do not trust that public interest comes first in the minds of our politicians. I think "being in power" comes first and they'd not hesitate to compromise on public interest if they see an opportunity to win over votes...
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:42 am:       


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because its not so simple. Notification ichaka court lo case vesthe? It needs atleast a 2 year lead time.



I still feel that something is amiss...case veste "we made out intentions clear, we even issued a notification... we will fulfill our commitment after satisfying the court" anochu....
I suspect that there is some regulation/disciplining mechanism that prevents governments from doing this. For instance, there is a restriction on borrowing excessively. One, RBI would restrict state governments from borrowing excessively, and two, the central disbursements would be hit if they borrow excessively.
Govt. jobs (if given excessively) also create long-term liabilities, albeit indirectly, so I was wondering what the disciplining mechanism is...
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:42 am:       

Govt meeda padi tine employees ekkuva .. productivity takkuva India lo .. inka ekkuva govt employees deniki? unna unproductive employees ni elagola downsize chesi vadilinchukovali ..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:36 am:       


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My question was not about not including in election promises. I was wondering why the incumbent government doesn't notify and make appointments in the last few days before going for elections.


because its not so simple. Notification ichaka court lo case vesthe? It needs atleast a 2 year lead time.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:29 am:       


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A government cannot make any appointments or transfers or any development works after the election notification is out



I meant before the election notification...last year lo notify chesi, appoints chesi, elections face cheste kontha favorable voting peruguthundi kada...what's stopping them ani...
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 12:24 am:       

A government cannot make any appointments or transfers or any development works after the election notification is out
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 11:46 pm:       

prapancham badhalu okatayite

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 11:45 pm:       


Darth_vader:

Now coming to you question of why parties dont include this in their election promises, trs did just that and look at how ou students are up in arms against them. TRS government is forcing departments to take up employment drive and it took them almost an year to arm twist them to issue a notification.



My question was not about not including in election promises. I was wondering why the incumbent government doesn't notify and make appointments in the last few days before going for elections.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 11:43 pm:       


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Fiscal deficit measures paina grants disbursement chesthaaru so in case your non-planned expenditure eats away majorily into your revenues you wouldn't have much to spend on creating infrastructure so automatic discipline vachesthundi.



But why would an incumbent government in the election year care about what future governments would be able to spend on infrastructure? Won't they be desperate to please as many voters as possible and win the election? Would they really think "If I notify and give too many jobs now, the future governments would not have money for infrastructure, so I am not going to notify excessive jobs even if it means a loss of a few votes"?
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 10:37 pm:       

Fiscal deficit measures paina grants disbursement chesthaaru so in case your non-planned expenditure eats away majorily into your revenues you wouldn't have much to spend on creating infrastructure so automatic discipline vachesthundi.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 10:34 pm:       

There is no law as such but issuing job notifications by state governments are a double edged sword because contract workers will be up in arms as soon as such a notification is given. They would want their jobs to be regulaized before creating new jobs and also through this contracting a lot of political appointments are done so why kill this goose.

Other advantage with contracting is, salary payment can be done as and when governments has monies. Know some departments who have to clear salary dues from last 4-5 months.

Now coming to you question of why parties dont include this in their election promises, trs did just that and look at how ou students are up in arms against them. TRS government is forcing departments to take up employment drive and it took them almost an year to arm twist them to issue a notification. Now have to see how many additional jobs are created because of this.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 10:22 pm:       

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"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 09:38 pm:       

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 09:35 pm:       

Election year lo job notification issue chesi, unemployed ni please chesi votes dandukovachu kada? Why don't governments do this? The burden of creating jobs falls on the state government for the next 35 years. What is stopping current governments from doing this without any concern for future governments?
Is there any law restricting this? Would this affect central grants such as those from NITI Aayog/Planning commission?
If state government non-plan expenses become too high a fraction of total expenses, would they be penalized in some way? I suspect that there is some disciplining mechanism...otherwise our past and current governments would have given government jobs left right and center.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963

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