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Inquisitive
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 09:49 am:       


Asdf:

super seppinaaru. are you in fin field?



Thank you! Kind of...
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 09:48 am:       


Bugatti:

Dude inquisitive how's your MBA at ASU going :P



Kashtapadattunnav...but you got it wrong. I don't want to reveal my identity so I will leave it here.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:24 am:       


Inquisitive:

Inquisitive




WP Carey or Thunderbird?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:23 am:       


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r u at ASU?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:20 am:       

only worry i have - 2008 lo US banned short selling and markets cheered. so, does china short banning draw parallels to that?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:18 am:       


Inquisitive:




super seppinaaru. are you in fin field?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:18 am:       

Dude inquisitive how's your MBA at ASU going :P
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Posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2015 - 12:05 am:       


Linkmaster:

excellent explanation



Thank you!
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:46 pm:       


Inquisitive:




excellent expalnation
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:40 pm:       


Bugatti:


Does "vadeela vyparam" come under this



Yes
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:36 pm:       

There are no markets in the world with out intervention.. in US Fed intervenes and calls it Bailout in China its CCP's capital controls migatha di antha same to same abba.

Neither China nor US wont go down quietly ..they make sure every other country goes down with them.
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:27 pm:       

@inquisitive


Does "vadeela vyparam" come under this
Izzat Nagar Pahelwan
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:25 pm:       


Bugatti:

Shadow banking ani edho vundhi rajini gadiki chandramukhi ettaano idhi yekanomics lo atta anta

Maa colleague okkadu vuntadu always talks about shadow banking and how it will screw up china....



Shadow banking is nothing but the informal financing that serves as an alternative to the regulated financial institutions. India lo kooda idi chaala peddadi...I am sure even you know people who run "chit funds" or lend money for interest without having any formal Bank or NBFC license.
It has its own pros and cons but I don't see it is a big threat to the economy. It is bad but not dangerously so! Slowly formal banking is taking over in India (Modi's Jan Dhan Yojan is helping). I don't know what's happening in China w.r.t this.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:22 pm:       

Shadow banking ani edho vundhi rajini gadiki chandramukhi ettaano idhi yekanomics lo atta anta

Maa colleague okkadu vuntadu always talks about shadow banking and how it will screw up china....
Izzat Nagar Pahelwan
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:15 pm:       


Dma:

asalu sudden gaa enduku antha padi pothundi?

what is its affect on world's market?

what is its affect on US market?

US lo prices emanna peruguthaayaa?

deeni kee, gold price kee link emanna vundaa?


where would this downfall going to stop?
Is it bottomed yet? can we invest in china market?



It has been speculated for long by several experts/economists that there was a bubble in China. It is hard to say why the fall is happening suddenly. All bubbles have to burst at sometime and it is hard to say when. There was a famous hedge fund guy who accurately foresaw the dotcom bubble and went short but an year later, he had to unwind his positions after losing all his money. It took the market one more year to realize that he was right and take the prices of dotcom stocks crashing down!

Effect on world market and US market is going to be significant but quite the opposite of your question. You asked if prices would increase. On the contrary, they have already decreased! Chinese demand thaggithe, it will lower prices throughout the world. This is especially true for commodities such as Gold, Copper, Steel, Crude Oil etc. Gold aithe China is the largest consumer (India is the largest importer but second larger consumer).

However, the relationship of gold prices with the Chinese economy is complex. Purely from a demand perspective, the price should go down since the demand from China is going down. Also, it must also be noted that China is the worlds largest producer of Gold as well! And in a bad economy, when there isn't much demand for services and locally consumed goods, more investment and human resources may be shifted into gold mining and thus increase the export of gold leading to a price decline.

But then, traditionally, gold has been a hedge against bad times. It has a slightly negative correlation with the stock markets. So there's really no obvious link between gold prices and the Chinese economy.

Coming to your last questions about how long this would last. I don't know the answer. I did not research this much. However, let me tell you this much: Predicting a decline in illiquid assets that can't be shorted (real estate etc.) is possible, predicting GDP is also possible. But predicting the direction of stock markets, gold prices etc. is not possible because if it were possible, the hedge fund guys would do it before us and buy or sell thus making those abnormal increases/decreases materialize in a matter of minutes or hours.
Even these short selling restrictions won't help because there are many ways to indirectly short stocks. Sometimes even directly short in the black market (off the exchange).
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:03 pm:       


Emc2:

Wrong

Chinks are very corrupted, desam kante ekkuva, Ruth less basxtards, India is far better



Perhaps I should have been more clear but my opinion about being less corrupt was in reference to communists in India, not China.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:01 pm:       


Inquisitive:




Wrong

Chinks are very corrupted, desam kante ekkuva, Ruth less basxtards, India is far better
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 11:00 pm:       


Inquisitive:

Can you be a little more specific?




asalu sudden gaa enduku antha padi pothundi?

what is its affect on world's market?

what is its affect on US market?

US lo prices emanna peruguthaayaa?

deeni kee, gold price kee link emanna vundaa?


where would this downfall going to stop?
Is it bottomed yet? can we invest in china market?
Jai Andhra!! Jai Jai Andhra!!!
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:57 pm:       


Emc2:

Vella comedy in denca , asalu em control ra babu velladi



That's what I hate about communists. Facebook, Youtube kooda block chestaru...newspapers ki editor job government chestundi!! It is no big deal for these guys to make silly attempts like restricting short selling etc.
If Indian communists come to power, they might do similar things. There are positives to them though...I think they're far less corrupt than the average party and are also less prone to caste/religion/region based politics that thrive on discrimination and instigation!
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:51 pm:       

Short Selling banned currency reserves anta collapse apataniki trying ikkada inka pacchi ga cheppali ante kudisipoyindhi market
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:49 pm:       

threatened to throw short sellers in jail. Other measures were more desperate: Officials organized the purchase of stocks using central bank cash. Companies were allowed to suspend their own shares -- at one point more than half

Vella comedy in denca , asalu em control ra babu velladi
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 10:45 pm:       

Can you be a little more specific? Do you want to know about intervention in the Chinese stock markets? Or the impact of the slowdown in Chinese GDP growth/consumption as well as the decline in their stock prices?

In brief: Communist government believes in intervention in every damn thing. So they're trying to control stock prices as well. The fact remains that Chinese economy is slowing down. Consumption is slowing down. In fact, that is one key reason why commodity prices are falling (Gold, Copper, Steel, Crude Oil etc.). China, being the worlds second largest economy, has a big influence on prices.
"Sakshi is a most balanced and independent media. This has no affiliation with any political party," Jagan had said. Link: http://www.outlookindia.com/news/article/sakshi-retelecasts- story-omits-antisonia-remarks/701963
 

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2015 - 09:51 pm:       

Oka saari deeni gurinchi 5th grader ki cheppi natlu evaranna cheppandi.
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