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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:19 pm:       

Over 1,76,000 people have been treated in the Godavari Pushkaram in Andhra Pradesh for dehydration, low blood sugar levels and also bruises from slipping and falling down. In Telangana, 2,01,256 pilgrims have undergone treatment at medical camps from July 14.

Majority of them not due to water
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 06:31 pm:       

Mandha, anthey
we see more and more people getting killed at these religious events, be it Hindu/Christian/Muslim places of worship/events.
Stampedes, fire accidents at Mecca during Haj
Golden Temple in Amritsar in 1983
recent shootings at a church in SC, or church fires in south
Stampedes, ghat road accidents and floods at Hindu places of worship
etc etc
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:59 pm:       

Many Aspects

Water has unique property to assemble its molecular structures based on positive and negative migrations, that touch them

ex: Holy water in Church, Teertam in temples believed to be purified by tulsi leaves as well specific vibratory mantras, prayers , music played in god's presence

Such waters have lot of healing properties.

May in during the Pushkara times, every 12 years specific rivers get these positive vibratory affects wither from cosmic rays, specific flora grow with in or flow thru, or mineral change happens in specific area where they originate
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:33 pm:       


Anand_n:

A beneficial practice-a ceremony- enforced as religious ritual- over generations loses context and remains a ritual only cos people have lost sight of the initial intent




I think most of what we do come in this group. We don;t know. That is one reason I think we do not follow what Hinduism tells us - this is an age of reasoning. With countries like America influencing us all in different areas, its even more necessary to be able to explain. Otherwise, they may lose their relevance also (hopefully not)
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 10:16 am:       


Emc2:

Any reason or just a blind dip




it is not mere religious.
scientific? i don't think so

there might be a social cause. since we were/are an agri-based society we have the to thank the river by taking a dip.

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 10:03 am:       


Whyme:

saraina hygeine leka snanal cheyyaka gabbu kotti potha vuntey.. entire kingdom ni clean cheyataniki rajulusina trick emo




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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 09:57 am:       

more of economical, spread of faith anukuntunna...more or less 12yr once equates to the number of major rivers in the sub continent...given the colonization in those days, hard to attract common man from one kingdom to another kingdom I guess, moreover, most of the important temples are along these rivers, every yr anni daggarla pushkaralu ante, janalaki antha enthusiasm raadhu, to chanel the population to one place in one yr, baaga vupayoga paduthundhi anukuntunna...so spread chesundocchu 12yrs ki..ee yr maaku, next yr meeku, aa next yr meeku, etc.....and there should be divinity involved to attract masses, so avi jarigina rojullo godd business for the locals, income to temples, may be some trade deals, PR about the particular place..word of mouth publicity ani na yokka idhi.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 09:34 am:       


Whyme:

emi vundakapovachu.. saraina hygeine leka snanal cheyyaka gabbu kotti potha vuntey.. entire kingdom ni clean cheyataniki rajulusina trick emo




godla ni every sunday/monthly wash chesinattu.. manani kooda raju garu 12 years ki poyi godatlo dookandi anevalla..?
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 09:19 am:       

emi vundakapovachu.. saraina hygeine leka snanal cheyyaka gabbu kotti potha vuntey.. entire kingdom ni clean cheyataniki rajulusina trick emo
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:50 am:       


Redclaw777:

There might have been a valid reasoning why it was done earlier....during a time when the rivers were abundant, flowing and the population much lesser.

However, now I feel whatever might hav been the logic is diluted given the state of our rivers and the huge population we have.

Not sure of we are going to get any minerals now...but bacteria/virus are guaranteed.

Now it is being done purely on religious sentiments...




Agree with above completely :-)
lifecycle Is pretty standard .. A beneficial practice-a ceremony- enforced as religious ritual- over generations loses context and remains a ritual only cos people have lost sight of the initial intent:-)
Why only religion - last week was having a debate with an agile coach who kept telling me that teams need to blindly practice a ritual for some time before realizing benefit and I am like ' these are smart people - explain what behavior you are trying to drive or the benefit they will get - if I just give them drill I will lose their engagement and turn them into order followers :-) martial arts shu ha ri ni development ki transpose chestanu antadu :-)

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:22 am:       

atleast they are not killing others in name of religion.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:22 am:       

desi version of pox party...
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:14 am:       


Chirupower:

Faith has nothing to do with Science.


:-) There is a difference between faith and superstition. Someimes faith may comply with science.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 07:00 am:       

It's a sheep thing....now stop this scientific bs.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 05:37 am:       

scientific reason emo kaani..morning TV9 lo esadu..totally 1,76,000 People in AP and 75000 people in TG got sick after taking dip in the pushkar ghats..water motham E-COLI bacteria tho nindi poindi anta..intha jarigina kuda janalu maarutharu anna nammakam aithe ledhu..
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 03:08 am:       

Faith has nothing to do with Science.
 

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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:58 am:       

You should believe it if you believe in Astronomy. Samudra snanalu, Pushkaralu are related to astronomy ani anukuntunna.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 21, 2015 - 02:36 am:       

There might have been a valid reasoning why it was done earlier....during a time when the rivers were abundant, flowing and the population much lesser.

However, now I feel whatever might hav been the logic is diluted given the state of our rivers and the huge population we have.

Not sure of we are going to get any minerals now...but bacteria/virus are guaranteed.

Now it is being done purely on religious sentiments...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 11:09 pm:       


Abhysg:




i don't think it is sheepish, edo oka reason une untadi ,

manollu pettaru ante undocumented reason edo undi untadu, may be ippudu polluted rivers valla manaki telavadam ledu reason and advantages
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 11:06 pm:       


Emc2:





Anand_n:




Yes, Life on this planet revolves around intake of minerals which attracts the bacteria. And our ancestors had a proper understanding of minerals.

No wonder if something happens every 12 years which will make the water more nutritious and they understood the phenomenon and inculcated into mass culture.

Inka pushkarudu garu, guilt nagalu ettukuni-classical dyance lu gatra vesukuntu vachi water kalavadam and all that ni nenu khandistunna. ee devtaa, pushkarudu etc; masses kosaram pettundali.

Alage manollu errollu, uttakane poyyi mulugutaru(ipputi paristiti kadu) ane argument ni kuda nenu khandistunna.

But apart from this very interesting point of something adding up to the river water brought by anand, I also think it is celebrating the life of a river which is lifeline for a civilization. And forefathers ki tarpanalu-pindalu (practised by few castes predominantly) pettadam at pushkaralu is also yelling out loud that, "amma godavari! nee valla maa muttatalu, tatalu, maa nayana andaru ikkada puttaru-batikaru-poyaru, memu maa jati batikundante nuvvu batiki undadame karanam. Challaga undu talli"

emotion ekkuvaite kshaminchandi, asalu emotion ae panda ledante upasaminchandi :D
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 10:17 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:



Poni ala anukundam.. Can we match that boom cycle with pushkarams???



When I learnt about the Nilgiris , I was surprised to find that once in 12 years is a frequency in nature - it's not just an arbitrary number for some of these festivals ..,

just saying there may be other natural things that happen at this frequency :-) research chesi chudandi - if there is such vegetation at the origin of any of these rivers ...

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:16 pm:       


Guru:

Economy ki help avuddani ittantivi petteru anukuntunna..tourism, travel, food, etc. anattu




+ unity aa rojullo
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:13 pm:       

Economy ki help avuddani ittantivi petteru anukuntunna..tourism, travel, food, etc. anattu
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 09:00 pm:       

http://kurinji.in/blooms.html

2018 anta annai... So that is also not matching
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:58 pm:       


Anand_n:




Poni ala anukundam.. Can we match that boom cycle with pushkarams???
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:36 pm:       


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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:32 pm:       

12 years ki oka saari devathalu devullu eee nadi lo snanam chesthaaru
So aa time lo cheyyadam anedi imp
Baagubali padam telungulo and damil lo paakkaledu inga
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 08:30 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:




12 years ki does rocks and trees emit some medicinal value.. that rivers propagate?? if so.. did anyone calculate when do these mysterious plants emit medicinal value?? if they did where did they document?? }

Hold that thought :-) do you know there are plants that flower on a 12 year cycle ? So what you just said could be possible - I don't know of specifics related to pushkaralu but me post Chusi Nilgiris bloom cycle gurthochindi ...

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:55 pm:       


Pete_sampras:

Definite ga edo oka scientific reason untadi anukuntunna...




emuntadi... every day velledi same river... everyday snanam cheyyanidi 12th year lo emi vasthadi???

if it is true for 1 week or so for every 12th year.. it should be same every day according to science kada??? its such a random date...

12 years ki does rocks and trees emit some medicinal value.. that rivers propagate?? if so.. did anyone calculate when do these mysterious plants emit medicinal value?? if they did where did they document??

nothing scientific about it...
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:55 pm:       


Emc2:

Every body doing I will also




jusht anthe...we are sheeps
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:50 pm:       


Thokkalohdi:

its religious thing, nothing scientific about it. Faith



Definite ga edo oka scientific reason untadi anukuntunna...
 

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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:40 pm:       

its religious thing, nothing scientific about it. Faith
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Posted on Monday, July 20, 2015 - 07:28 pm:       

Any reason or just a blind dip ,

Every body doing I will also anthena or any reason?

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