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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 08:20 am:       


Tilak:

identi? how do you say that Ravi Kumar Sonia kaallu pattukunnadani?


ilaiah pattukodu.. individual thinker.. kiki..

dronamraju gadu pattukunna ardham undi. vadi party leader.. aina oka pakka Bs adipatyam ani edupu.. mallee inko side Sonia kallu pattukunnaru ani edupu.. lol.. pattukunte mana kaalle pattukovali andaru.. kiki
 

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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 08:13 am:       

eediki chance iste pushkarallo beef festival kooda seyinchali antad..
 

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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 05:19 am:       

Asalu devudu ane concept mooda nammakam endhuku kaado nuvvu cheppu.>>

Meeru nasthikula?
 

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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 05:05 am:       


Tugoboy:

Illayya:ila tokkisalatalu jaruguthayi kabatti...pushkaraalu cheyyakoodadhu.
Another debater:cricket stadiums lo tokkisalatalu jaruguthayi...kabbati cricket ni ban cheddamma?
Intellectual illayya:thats a different issue!!


bob sesey prahee edhava panini support seyyadaniki TTs, jaggad sesey lafadia panul supprt seyyadaniki jaffas vaade same baanam vaadaadaa social scientist PhD unkel?
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 02:31 am:       


Nisarga:

asalu pushkaralu anevi enduku muda nammakam kaado evaranna cheppandi chuddaam...




Asalu devudu ane concept mooda nammakam endhuku kaado nuvvu cheppu.
Naaku nacchindi janaalaki nacchadu... Janaalaki nacchindi naaku nacchadu... Nenanthe.. adho type.
 

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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 02:27 am:       


Vjavasi:

Sonia kallu pattukune Dronamraju ravi kumar Hindu matham gurinchi matladutunnad....


identi? how do you say that Ravi Kumar Sonia kaallu pattukunnadani?

Vjavasi:

Kancha ilaih anni abagane discuss chestunnadu kani....srustini aradhinachakoodadu anedhi tappu......he should not promote christian/islamic ideas...


LOL .. dont try to cover up his affiliations .. avi ala sruthi lo vadulutunnappudu .. dont say .. ignore those ..
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 02:25 am:       

ok .. Harappan seal meeda unnadi Siva kaadu anukundaam .. adi oka village head anukundaam .. on what basis do you say that? was there any precedent of honoring village heads on a seal before? or is it only to make Hindu civilisational roots not credible? what is your agenda? Wendy?

And Wendy also talked bad about Mother Kali .. and many other Hindu history/epics/religious facts .. repeat offender .. obvious that anyone would see an agenda ..
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 02:22 am:       


Nisarga:

asalu pushkaralu anevi enduku muda nammakam kaado evaranna cheppandi chuddaam...


Universal consciousness anedi muda nammakama? nijama?
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 06:16 pm:       


Rajusk:

.topi brothers beliefs ni quechen chesi unte..ee paatiki




I question - become I am not a fanatic like them...
I question - because I do not believe in religion but I believe in the creator....
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 06:10 pm:       


Asdf:

he publisher pulped the book, based on public outcry




http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-02-13/news/chi-india -book-ban-wendy-doniger-20140213_1_penguin-group-hinduism-ch icago-scholar

They were forced to do it....BTW - The book is available on Amazon...Please read it if possible.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 02:11 pm:       

Ambedkar to Polika. He is nationalist and did great things for thier down trodden

Vorike hatred speeches ichi pabbam gadupukoledu

Annitikanna goppa service constituion bench ki head ga undi ,making sure it is completed.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:58 pm:       


Rajusk:

topi brothers beliefs ni quechen chesi unte




maro rushdie, maro taslima
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:56 pm:       


Dada:




wendy book lo few are ok, few are outright demeaning. also, govt did not ban the book. the publisher pulped the book, based on public outcry
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:54 pm:       


Dada:

For e.g. Wendy Doniger questioned the premise that the person sitting cross legged on a Harappan seal was Siva.
She asked- why could the picture on the seal not be representing the local king or the local chief or maybe the person who made that seal?
Instead of debating with her and proving that the seal is really depicting Siva(The creation in a human form), the Govt has banned her and her books.




ide quechen ..topi brothers beliefs ni quechen chesi unte..ee paatiki
bagar katha golden rajan .ek daar mein..set chese vallu
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:53 pm:       


Dada:


Because he has met with too much opposition to his views in the form of threats but without a debate - so he has became a radical himself - the very people he was opposing


so, he himself should be avoided.... No point in arguing with someone with a gun in hand. No matter who wins the argument, it's you who'd be blessed with a bullet.... Lol
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:52 pm:       


Dada:

Because he has met with too much opposition to his views in the form of threats but without a debate - so he has became a radical himself - the very people he was opposing


 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:52 pm:       


Tugoboy:





Oh, btw, their attacking and questioning is only against Hindusim. Islam, Christianity other religions lo avakathavakal veella ki kanpinchav.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:51 pm:       


Tugoboy:

people do and respect rivers..if and only if we say..."their sins will be washed away etc"!!




so, bhakti kanna swardham ekkuva, sins pothayi ane brama ekkuva, so paapalu chesaamu anna nammakam ekkuva ?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:49 pm:       


Tugoboy:

vaadu em maatladuthunnado vadikanna ardham avuthonda






Ambedkar gaari alochanala ni following avutaaru. communist bhavalu, anti-Brahminism annee piski, kofta curry chesi vaddistaaru ee type mahanubhavulu.

Fundamental gaa india lo inequality and suppression of lower classes due to Brahminical Hindu society ani veella point. Daani agrajathi varnala domination kindha generalize chesi chance dorikithay kotto naa saami ranga.

Democracy, constitution, votes politics advantage tho society lo baaga ne vyapincharu. Kontha vallu cheppedi correct ayinaa mostly BS.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:48 pm:       


Thikka_sankara:

change of opinion ki what would accept as a proof?? How sure would you be that the proof which was reproducible and hence was reason for your change of mind at that time was not a long drawn fake /scam designed in tricking you into conceding defeat?




To elaborate more, the above question us not my own. A very popular atheist/rationalist was once asked a question about what evidence would convince him on existence of God. He thought a bit and said, no amount of evidence. His reason was that, even though as a rationalist one should be rational enough to change opinion in face of evidence, there is no sure way to establish that the evidence itself is true, that the evidence is not fabricated. So, essentially, a rational atheist can never change opinion regarding existence of God. Problem is, so does a rational theist. So, a rational person , be theist or atheist can never change belief based on evidences and proofs, because belief can only be changed based on beliefs. Not proofs or evidences. That belief could be in presence of God or in absence of the same.

So, no point in arguing debating on beliefs with evidences / proofs as basis.
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:45 pm:       


Thikka_sankara:

why ????




Are you absolutely sure of the truth?
It is your choice - You go with your beliefs which have been handed down to you - or you question them and try and find out the truth.


Getafix:

reasonable ga disco seddamani chusina kanche chesthada?



Because he has met with too much opposition to his views in the form of threats but without a debate - so he has became a radical himself - the very people he was opposing
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:43 pm:       


Lax:

Excel Updated


:D... nee excel yeppudu tappe :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:41 pm:       


Dada:

and engage in a constructive debate.






when it comes to faith - entire universe lo constructive debate anede jaragadu... kanche tho reasonable ga disco seddamani chusina kanche chesthada? You cant argue with bigoted individual.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:41 pm:       


Dada:


If some one believes in those concepts very strongly, they should answer him and tell him the rationale behind those beliefs and engage in a constructive debate.


why ????
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:41 pm:       


Dada:

Wendy Doniger


ee munda evaru?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:40 pm:       


Getafix:

kanche point endante .. B's ye manthralu sadavalani rule ledu migithavallu kuda sadavochu ani meaning.. what he says you dont need a bram for all the poojas and other stuff..


nen kuda ade cheptunna uncle... if he feels so or if his followers feel so simple ga...

Sesani:

If u really hate their attitude, F them I dont need them ani live ur life...




Anthe kaani puranaalaku competition ga inko rule raddam ante etta?? isnt he doing the same 'caste' based provocation to support his argument and create a new powerful caste?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:39 pm:       

He is questioning certain beliefs....

If some one believes in those concepts very strongly, they should answer him and tell him the rationale behind those beliefs and engage in a constructive debate.

For e.g. Wendy Doniger questioned the premise that the person sitting cross legged on a Harappan seal was Siva.
She asked- why could the picture on the seal not be representing the local king or the local chief or maybe the person who made that seal?
Instead of debating with her and proving that the seal is really depicting Siva(The creation in a human form), the Govt has banned her and her books.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:38 pm:       


Sesani:

Mana intla oka shubha kaaryaaniki Brahmins kaavale.. mana intla oka ashubham jarigithe Brahmins kaavale...

Puttuka nunchi saavu varaku, manchi-chedu rendintiki Brahmins kaavale, vaalla aasishulu kaavale, vaalla mantraalu kaavale....

KAANI vallu meeda yedisthe etta?? If u really hate their attitude, F them I dont need them ani live ur life... avasaram unnappudu pilichi, lenappudu che thu ante etta??




Excel Updated :D
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:34 pm:       


Sesani:




vuncle.. aavesapadaku.. kanche point endante .. B's ye manthralu sadavalani rule ledu migithavallu kuda sadavochu ani meaning.. what he says you dont need a bram for all the poojas and other stuff..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:32 pm:       

Mana intla oka shubha kaaryaaniki Brahmins kaavale.. mana intla oka ashubham jarigithe Brahmins kaavale...

Puttuka nunchi saavu varaku, manchi-chedu rendintiki Brahmins kaavale, vaalla aasishulu kaavale, vaalla mantraalu kaavale....

KAANI vallu meeda yedisthe etta?? If u really hate their attitude, F them I dont need them ani live ur life... avasaram unnappudu pilichi, lenappudu che thu ante etta??
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:31 pm:       


Rajusk:

new age Narada role baaga play sesthunnai saar..right from T-issue onwards...Nagarjuna garu please eliminate




democracy ane maha vrikshaniki kaasina fruits lo konni pucchu fruits konni dog mouth fruits kooda untai ..alagani aa kaachina kommani narakalem kadha rao garu ..kaala gathi lo avve raali pothai ..wait cheyyandi..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:27 pm:       

evadu asala ee kanchi mundakoduku...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:24 pm:       


Nisarga:

I am ok to change my mind on any thing on the face of evidence.


change of opinion ki what would accept as a proof?? How sure would you be that the proof which was reproducible and hence was reason for your change of mind at that time was not a long drawn fake /scam designed in tricking you into conceding defeat?
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:21 pm:       


Twitter:

tv9 gajala garu




ee TV9 and ABN matram..

new age Narada role baaga play sesthunnai saar..right from T-issue onwards...Nagarjuna garu please eliminate
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:19 pm:       


Rajusk:

rao garu..inthaki ae channel lo ee disco..



tv9 gajala garu
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:18 pm:       


Rajusk:

ppatki avi unchandi :D




:D
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:18 pm:       


Nisarga:

we cannot question each others truths....



Nisarga:

I doubt it and question it...




what you are questioning is a truth from my POV. so pls do not question
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:17 pm:       


Twitter:

discussion lo aa ravikumar evadu ra babu oka point ledhu emi ledhu paruvu theesthunnadu b's dhi ..koddhiga intellect ni pettochhu kadha aadi place lo




rao garu..inthaki ae channel lo ee disco..
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:15 pm:       


Asdf:

antha kante pedda booths levaa?



Chiru_fan:

ee dongamundakoduku ni TV station ki pilisina piccha flower gaadu yevadu? aa Ilaiah gaadini NGOs M gudavamani cheppandi....aadiki adi baagaa vacchu.....lambdikoduku




asdf goru..ippatki avi unchandi :D
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:15 pm:       


Nisarga:

what sort of reverence is it? is polluting revers reverence?



who are polluting? Industries!! Not the common people...!!
Snanaalu cheyyataalu...battalu uthakadaalu....eppati nuncho unnayi...!!these exists...past 1000s of yrs!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:14 pm:       

discussion lo aa ravikumar evadu ra babu oka point ledhu emi ledhu paruvu theesthunnadu b's dhi ..koddhiga intellect ni pettochhu kadha aadi place lo
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:14 pm:       

Retamatham batch tho argue seyyaneeki naaku time illio. U have fun but naa HINDU matham ni evadu prasninchina cheppu tho kotte samadhanam septhaa>>>

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:13 pm:       


Asdf:

social scientist ni pattukuni veedu vaadu enti, antha kante pedda booths levaa?


 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:12 pm:       


Tugoboy:

I dont believe in "Super powers" that come if u bath in a river during pushkaram....But...vishayam emiti ante....its a way of respecting the rives..in india. Each year...we respect a river as they are the primary reasons for our civilizations to prosper...!!
Like how we pray for fire,water,earth,cow...etc....we also...pray the rivers....as simple as that!!
And..people do and respect rivers..if and only if we say..."their sins will be washed away etc"!!




what sort of reverence is it? is polluting revers reverence?

and .. to make people buy in something we need to instill mudanammakams in them .. is it? am not sure if it is only or right way to do it. what would happen if we tell the truth...

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/new-ebook-lying
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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:11 pm:       

Erri na matta gaadu em vaaguthado ardham kaadhu B's meedha visham kakkuthunnadu.

Devude buddi chepthadu.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 01:03 pm:       


Nisarga:

btw...I am more interested in knowing why the things are the way they are... I dont care what Ialayya and others say. Anything that does not appeal to my logical mind.. I doubt it and question it... I am ok to change my mind on any thing on the face of evidence.



I dont believe in "Super powers" that come if u bath in a river during pushkaram....But...vishayam emiti ante....its a way of respecting the rives..in india. Each year...we respect a river as they are the primary reasons for our civilizations to prosper...!!
Like how we pray for fire,water,earth,cow...etc....we also...pray the rivers....as simple as that!!
And..people do and respect rivers..if and only if we say..."their sins will be washed away etc"!!
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:59 pm:       

btw...I am more interested in knowing why the things are the way they are... I dont care what Ialayya and others say. Anything that does not appeal to my logical mind.. I doubt it and question it... I am ok to change my mind on any thing on the face of evidence.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:54 pm:       

pichi lk...eedini chosthey ne boothulu vastayi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:51 pm:       

ee dongamundakoduku ni TV station ki pilisina piccha flower gaadu yevadu? aa Ilaiah gaadini NGOs M gudavamani cheppandi....aadiki adi baagaa vacchu.....lambdikoduku
CHIRU - SACHIN - FEDERER
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:49 pm:       

Illayya:ila tokkisalatalu jaruguthayi kabatti...pushkaraalu cheyyakoodadhu.
Another debater:cricket stadiums lo tokkisalatalu jaruguthayi...kabbati cricket ni ban cheddamma?
Intellectual illayya:thats a different issue!!


 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:49 pm:       


Asdf:

why?




if there is no agreement on common ground.. no argument possible...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:48 pm:       


Fargo:

Retamatham batch tho argue seyyaneeki naaku time illio. U have fun but naa HINDU matham ni evadu prasninchina cheppu tho kotte samadhanam septhaa



I think one can/should only point out the shortcomings of ones own belief system...one cannot talk(may not be able to) about other belief systems...
said that.. I tend to agree that Hindu matam seemingly has more tolerance( whatever the reasons be) and is accommodating than some other matams
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:46 pm:       


Nisarga:

we cannot question each others truths....




why?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:42 pm:       

ppl conveniently forget this that.. if your truth is yours( based on your beliefs) my truth is mine... we cannot question each others truths....
if you have to convince others you need to agree to some common grounds...you need to objectively prove.... or the system of belief should be consistent within its set of rules giving right predictions...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:42 pm:       

Sonia kallu pattukune Dronamraju ravi kumar Hindu matham gurinchi matladutunnad....LOL.......Kancha ilaih anni abagane discuss chestunnadu kani....srustini aradhinachakoodadu anedhi tappu......he should not promote christian/islamic ideas...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:41 pm:       


Nisarga:


Retamatham batch tho argue seyyaneeki naaku time illio. U have fun but naa HINDU matham ni evadu prasninchina cheppu tho kotte samadhanam septhaa
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:39 pm:       


Fargo:

Is jesus real? History lo vundi ani cheppoddu. tellodu rasina history adhi




tellodu rasina evadu rasina... unless it has any predictive value its all muda nammakam...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:38 pm:       

Gadidha M, Matti masanam
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:38 pm:       

kanche live now in times
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:38 pm:       

what is truth? how can we say something is true unless we can see reproducible results.

a theory is true as long as it has predictive value.
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:36 pm:       


Nisarga:


Is jesus real? History lo vundi ani cheppoddu. tellodu rasina history adhi
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:35 pm:       

all that glitters is not gold..... konni vela years prevailing ayinaa ade nijam kavalani ledu
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:33 pm:       

asalu pushkaralu anevi enduku muda nammakam kaado evaranna cheppandi chuddaam...
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:30 pm:       

vani ki vunna telivi bc lako inkokkalako vupayoga padithe bagundu ..yekkada chikku poyadu ...

3000 yrs + vunna civilization ee pichi ilayya vyathirekinchadam .. recha denkatam desam lo chala easy vupayoga pade vokkati cheyadam chala kashtam .. reservation ni lower leaf daka thisuku vellandi ilayya garu milanti medhavulu inka vostharu
Rajasa yodha Rajasekhara Johar Johar
"avineeti, band_,kula pichhi unna party telugu desam party... avuna? kaada?"
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:23 pm:       


Tugoboy:

malli...veedu intellectual!!




koncham choosi post cheyandi. social scientist ni pattukuni veedu vaadu enti, antha kante pedda booths levaa?
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:17 pm:       

worst naa matta
 

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Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 12:17 pm:       

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmXkjPzDZMs

asalu..vaadu em maatladuthunnado vadikanna ardham avuthonda??
topic meeda depth ledu!!Only one point:Brahmins poyi....andari kaallu pattukovali ani!!
topic ni..vaadi istam vacchinnattu divert chestunnadu!!
malli...veedu intellectual!!

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