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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 03:56 pm:       

slight deviation from topic...but all we need is this.

http://tadipatrimunicipality.com/swm.html

every village or township to step up and own the place and work for its development...this looks like an example of good governance in India
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 03:24 pm:       


Tilak:

just 1 generation of planning and hard/smart work



Tantri_the_mantri:

suggest an alternative solution that can work an try to implement it..





Jambalahaart_raja:

Sardar Patel malli puttaali ani aasisthu... putti Indian Dictator avvaali...



When Governance is commercialized, and Democracy seemingly has failed.. Dictatorship under an able ruler isn't a bad alternative may be.
akkadi daaka akkarledu.. Remove all Elected Representatives, and let the IAS reign over.
Corruption and Bureaucracy elaa vunaa... a whole bunch of them are at least Patriots!!!

OP lo link choodaledu, chadavaledu.. may be evening choosthaa.. aapice lo open kaaledu.
Naa baatamline matuku.. where is India, and why is India there right here, right now ante... the Good are because of the Imperial Rule by Mughals and Brits, the Bad are all our own swayamkruthaaparaadham!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 03:08 pm:       

mana taruvata freedom techukunna desalu .. oka natural resources levu .. peace and stability levu .. history and culture levu .. technology and human resources levu anukunna desalu chaala .. in a span of 15-20 years .. roopu rekhalu maaripoyayi .. all it takes is .. just 1 generation of planning and hard/smart work ..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:59 pm:       

no matter what explanation anyone can come up with...it doesn't justify the fact that brits fckin looted us and messed our country..

and yes mana desam lo ippudu situation bad..so andaram anni vippesi memu deniki panikiram ani kurcholemu kada..

we need to figure out what needs to be done and do that...

its easy to criticize the system...if you are trying to criticize then try to comeup with a solution...if not jsut don't because its of no use..

I can criticize too but that doesnt solve anything
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:56 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


I understand what you say and yes if we look at a bigger picture, democracy has its own problems in the development of a country..esp for us in this situation...but that does not mean that we are not fit for governance...

we have to play the hand we were dealt with..nenu em cheyalo cheppatam kaadhu...because you are not happy with the situation, you should probably suggest an alternative solution that can work an try to implement it..rather than just degrade an entire country..

anyone can criticize at no cost...fixing something needs brains
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:51 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

this is time for all of us to be selfless and there are people out who do that for our country


Awesome .. 5 stars .. naa thed sardhakam ayyindi .. kudos!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:49 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

this is time for all of us to be selfless and there are people out who do that for our country



The Constitution of Secular Socialist Democratic Republic of India gives you all the Rights to nominate yourselves, contest and win within your means, as the Elected Representative in the Governance System.
Late enduku... selfless gaa nuvvu em chesaavo.. chesthaavo chesi choopinchu..
Nobody is stopping you.
A country where Governance system is Commercialized, what Development are we expecting, and talking about? And mind you, that includes USA as well.
Probably the only Governance System that seemingly is non-commercial belongs to the Peoples Republic of China.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:44 pm:       

antha enduklu. 4th centuray BC varaku etuvanti recorded history ledhu mana daggara. we lagged in science & technology all the time except Vedic times. intha coast line vundi saraina naval army ledhu history lo. tinatamu ongotamu pakkintodu pellani leupkellatamu idhe gola india lo
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:44 pm:       

there are still great people out there who fight for the development of our country..and things wont happen overnight..we turned from a great country to this stage over a period of 600-700 yrs and we can change for better in the next 2 centuries..so we should not give up hope, but we should slowly find long term solutions and build our society so future generations can reap the benefits..

this is time for all of us to be selfless and there are people out who do that for our country
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:43 pm:       


Tilak:

perlu leva?



teliyadu.. gurthu ledu.. marchipoyaa!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:42 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

yes we can fix it



You belong to the era between 1947 and 1956, when Princely states were getting inducted into Independent India.
Otherwise Europe laaga India koodaa Indian Subcontinent laagaa vundipoyedi...
aa okka era ki maatram danda vesi dannam ettaali.. Sardar Patel.. raaju.. magodu...
Whole of India unite chesaadu.. after may be, Akbar... and that is it...
Nehru and his lineage... Emergency was the Dark-Ages of Independent India.

Sardar Patel malli puttaali ani aasisthu... putti Indian Dictator avvaali... appudu kaani nee aasa neraveradu...
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:41 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


meeru cheppindi nijam ayyundachu, daniki mana lopalni sariddukuni mundarki ela vellali ani aalochinchali thappa nirasa nispruhalatho manalni maname kinchaparuchukokoodadu..

yes our politics are bad, yes we have systemic corruption, but until we the people revolt and change ourselves nothing changes for good..at the same time we shouldn't lose hope because hope is what helps you to survive...

we need to keep ourselves positive so someday that will help..ippudu chetulettesthe we can never get forward
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:39 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:

veerulu ante New-World lo Freedom kosam Europe nunchi valasavachhi...
venta vachhina British vaarini... Tax ledu, Commerce ledu ani yedirichinavaallu..


evaru babu vaallu? perlu leva?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:35 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

eppudaina veerula jeevitha charitra chadivite telustundi.....



veerulu ante New-World lo Freedom kosam Europe nunchi valasavachhi...
venta vachhina British vaarini... Tax ledu, Commerce ledu ani yedirichinavaallu..
Of course, Gandhi's Non-Cooperation, and Peaceful Struggle for Independence is definitely worth appreciation.. but what's the aftermath?

veerochitangaa kashtapadi sampaadinchukunnadi.. (and later on, land grabbing from Spanish speaking Mexico)... evidently had far immense respect for their charithra... that in turn motivated to stay united (civil-war, when southern confederate states declared their own governance!!!).
manamu vunnaam... 1000 years nunchi manalni manam paripaalinchukotam chethakaani daddammalamu...
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:32 pm:       

ee logic extend cheste edo pakistan manaki enemy aindi kabatti nuclear country ayyamu..so thanks to pakistan ani cheppettundi situation
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:31 pm:       

paiga valledo manavatha drukpatham tho manalni kalipinattu chitrikaristunnaru.. valla dandha kosam prathi rajyanni vidvidiga dochukunte manam kalisikattuga poradaamu...

500 yrs+ga dasulugaa undi manaki banisatvam rakthamlo kalisipoindi..
lopala daagiunna manishini thatti lepaali..lekapothe ilaane baanisa aalochanaltho migilipotaam..

politicians, actors, sportsstars ki andariki manam fans kaadhu slaves...adi mana current mentality unfortunately
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:27 pm:       

it benefited and bought modernity to INDIA. There would not be an india if not for british. we would have tens of countries if not 100s.

Only nations that were not under European occupation is siam so we would be something similar to that.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:26 pm:       


Jambalahaart_raja:


3000 yrs+ charitra unna desanni oka 10-20 yrs span lo em jarigindo choosi mottam oka race ni degrade cheyatam anedi entha neechamo nenu cheppalenu...one might not be proud about who we are...but we are neither filthy nor inferior to anyone...yes we are scrambling now but yes we can fix it
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:23 pm:       

US mottam okesaari countryga aipoindi anukuntunnaara? civil war jarigi kalisaaru...ilaa prathi desaniki oka charitra undi..

mana karma kaali manadi gatha 500 yrsga banisa charitra..danni manam elaa samardinchukuntam manchi jarigindi ani?

jarigindedo jarigindi but british valla valana manaki manchemi jaragaledu...swatantryam vachindi kabatti teliyatledu manaki but eppudaina veerula jeevitha charitra chadivite telustundi.....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:23 pm:       


Tantri_the_mantri:

praisthithula prabhavam valana maname kalisevallam



Chinnappudu 23 states ani chadvukunnaam...
ippudu 29 states ayyayi...
bhasha prayuktha raashtraalu ani... same language vunna single state ni split chesaar...
kaakamma kathal hevvarki chepthaar...
Basic Indian mentality is filthy.. and not good for governance. Period!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:21 pm:       

valla valana nashtame kani labham jaragaledu...
ippudu kaalanni venakki tippalemu kabatti labham vethukkuntunnam kaaani nashtame jarigindi..


mee intlo annadammula madhya godava undachu..moodo vadu vachi petthanam chesi..iddarillani kalipesi roju iddarni dochukunte..

vadu lekapothe manam kalisevallam kaadhu..vaadu manalni kalipaadu ani sambarapadataara?
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:19 pm:       

adedo only India okkate princely states ani anukuntaarendi?

prapanchamlo prati rajyam idi varaku separategaane undedi...germany was divided into separate states, but later they got united...etc. etc.

british kakapoyute praisthithula prabhavam valana maname kalisevallam..so valledo manalni kalipesinattu anukovalsina pani ledu
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:16 pm:       

The people of today's Indian subcontinent had lost the ability to govern themselves at least a 1000 years ago. Probably the Guptas and the Satavahanas were the last known effective governance systems. All that remained later was princely states and territories.
Yenni positives and negatives maattaadukunnaa... Mughals and Brits united us, in some way, up to some extent, and reshaped our societies, and our living, be it language, science, culture, whatever.
Just look at what is happenning in India ever since Colonial Rule has been abolished!!!
MIght as well invite any other Imperials, hoping things might improve.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:14 pm:       


Bugatti:

okati matram mummataniki sahajam..... British olu lekapothe india lo english medha pattu vundedhi kadhu...


lol
what a joke
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:58 pm:       

good vs bad lo sooste good annadi ekkuva..

hardcore hindutva kooda agree chestadi.. british lekunte india ni prati gottam gadu attack sesta undevadu.. mana chettanayalu pakkodi meeda paga tho help sesevollu..

india re-invented it's identity.. on world stage..


inka sala unnay.. annee seppukondam..

naa varaku ayite english rule help sesindi INDIA ku.. dani tho poliste nashtalu picha lite
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:15 am:       


Tilak:

totally true rujju .. kaani egos ni tagginchedi ela? solution enti?



telidu tilakam..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:07 am:       

urdu is the worst thing to happen to indian subcontinent..it united most of the subcontinent muslims in a bad way, killing their roots and driving them towards unmadham....
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:06 am:       


Ruj:

these mujahirs(migrants) along with 'exiting' west punjabis



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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:05 am:       

pakistan appatlo peddha gabbu em levaledu..sindhis and balochis were most peace loving and prosperous(sindhi) societies..pasthuns were relatively better too..

west punjabis worst n cunning..ayithe muslims from UP , deccan, MP, bihar, rajasthan, punjab and else where moved to pak after india pak division..and these mujahirs(migrants) along with exiting west punjabis r responsible for all this mess..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:04 am:       

desanni peelchi pippi chesaru...edho guddilo mella annattu education system okati andariki kuda open chesaru.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:47 am:       


Rocketk2:

They were able to get the labor, trade routes, etc which are all essential for an industrial nation. So if multiple small nations in Asia(India) were to do that, I believe they would not have strategic advantage unless they go and colonize some other place in the world.




europe had to do that because they lacked people, resources but had ideas. Indians had people and resources but missed the idea. our traders were trading on the silk route way back in the 1100s. they touched SE asia long before mughals came in as well. what europe did phenomenally was the evolution of science in opposition to religion. granted India/hindustan/mughals missed that bus but we woud have certainly copied it and made it our own. we had all the resources - the assumption that we did not, is just wrong. look at it purely from a population+wealth perspective.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:45 am:       


Tilak:

thats the case with anything .. pakis vidipovadam valla .. tellalism taggindi anukovachu .. most fertile lands anni vallaki poyayi ani feel avvochu .. the glass is always half full in that sense .. but by and large .. Brits gabbu leparu India ni anedi naa bottomline ..


moguls rule lo aa area eppudo gabbu lesindi....aa fertile land povadame manchidi ayyindi
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:40 am:       

Without British rule we would be a bunch of princely states. With linguistic differences it would have been nearly impossible to have the concept of Bharat. The best we could have would have been Autonomic regions working together as a federal unit. So the GDP calculation would be against the Princely states and not against Bharat as a whole.

However saying that we also have to agree that what British did was the worst form of looting. Sometimes starving and killing people in India to move the wealth abroad. Paying US the same wealth to partner and fight for WW2. India was always in the Worlds top 5 economies throughout human history, only after British rule we got screwed.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:35 am:       


Sony:

Brit rule lo konni benefits jarigayi alage konni nasthapoyam....


thats the case with anything .. pakis vidipovadam valla .. tellalism taggindi anukovachu .. most fertile lands anni vallaki poyayi ani feel avvochu .. the glass is always half full in that sense .. but by and large .. Brits gabbu leparu India ni anedi naa bottomline ..

Rocketk2:

The reason many of the kindoms you listed ended is due to lack of trust amongst them.


Nothing is permanent. And even without so many diversities .. Romans, Persians, Egyptians .. all perished .. its just natural .. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:28 am:       


Bushu:

why would so many small countries = destabilization? how did europe stay together? India in 1947 = EU in 1999. No british would have meant India = Europe with small diff nations. atleast we could have benefited from the industrial revolution.


That is an alternate possibility.
Colonization was essential ingredient for continued industrial revolution in Europe. They were able to get the labor, trade routes, etc which are all essential for an industrial nation. So if multiple small nations in Asia(India) were to do that, I believe they would not have strategic advantage unless they go and colonize some other place in the world.
What could have happened is a very difficult thing to say. In a way, I like your way of thinking, as India did have distinctive advantages in education(math and architecture) before world.

Tilak, multi-lingual kindgoms gurinch naku ekkuva knowledge ledhu. Based on what I read they are not sustained thru out the history. The reason many of the kindoms you listed ended is due to lack of trust amongst them. Outsider(British) were able to exploit. I think language could have been a factor also.

Mine is just a point of view. My history knowledge used to be good but it is fading :-)
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:26 am:       

Bushu/Tilak

Mana first failure was under moghul rule itself.....alage britts have taught us corruption, but during fight for independence we smaller nations became larger nation.....larger nation is always better than smaller nations.....currently europe is suffering because of this

Brit rule lo konni benefits jarigayi alage konni nasthapoyam....but my point is with continued mogul rule we would have been far more worse.

Simple Analogy - Milk lo best part is cream, prathi country lo ee cream untundi, cream kakunda migilina milk entha manchidi anedi important....aa remaining milk would have been spoiled under moghul rule
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:23 am:       


Bushu:

look at the connections mughal kings established with persia, middle east and even europe.


it was mostly with persia and arabia kada .. europe edo chinna chinna sambandaal .. bcoz at that time .. europe was rag torn poor

Bushu:

Mughals did not stop any kind of production or wealth generating mechanisms.


totally true .. but power and wealthy elites would have been mostly Muslims .. that we should agree .. :D
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:20 am:       


Sony:

GDP has no link to changing times.....now US has highest GDP repu poduna africa lo inko revloution ochi kotha product culture ni teesukuni osthe, US kuda current india type lo avtundi




hain?? :D I was commenting on your statement that we would have missed the industrial age under mughals. all the facts point to the contrary. Mughals did not stop any kind of production or wealth generating mechanisms. other than religious fanaticism, they considered themselves as part of this land and focused on its progress. one ex: golconda diamond operations flourished under mughals.

OTOH, for britishers, it was just a golden goose which had to be raped to fatten their country back in europe. big big diff.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:19 am:       


Sony:

mughal rule lo undi unte afghanistan range lo unde vallam


not really, country would still have flourished better .. only thing is .. the elites and concentration of powers would have been with a different set of people .. so obviously the wealth would not have percolated down like today (atleast "we" have a Mukesh Ambani and Ramoji Rao among us :D)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 10:14 am:       


Tilak:

you think India went through the cycle of industrial revolution? ade jarigithe mana infra intha ghoram ga undedi anukuntunnava?


vellaledu, mughal rule lo undi unte afghanistan range lo unde vallam
 

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Bushu:

no way. mughals emi erri pappal kaadhu. in 1700, Indian GDP in the world was second, after china. this was after 300 yrs of mughal rule. look at the connections mughal kings established with persia, middle east and even europe. technology transfer would have happened seamlessly.


annai, GDP has no link to changing times.....now US has highest GDP repu poduna africa lo inko revloution ochi kotha product culture ni teesukuni osthe, US kuda current india type lo avtundi

India saw progression from stone age, iron age but missed industrial revolution
 

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Sony:

nope we would have lost the industrial revolution with mughal rule


you think India went through the cycle of industrial revolution? ade jarigithe mana infra intha ghoram ga undedi anukuntunnava?
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Sony:

nope we would have lost the industrial revolution with mughal rule




no way. mughals emi erri pappal kaadhu. in 1700, Indian GDP in the world was second, after china. this was after 300 yrs of mughal rule. look at the connections mughal kings established with persia, middle east and even europe. technology transfer would have happened seamlessly.
 

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Bushu:

why would so many small countries = destabilization? how did europe stay together? India in 1947 = EU in 1999. No british would have meant India = Europe with small diff nations. atleast we could have benefited from the industrial revolution.


nope we would have lost the industrial revolution with mughal rule
 

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Rocketk2:

If colonial rule was not there India would have been multiple small countries. There probably would have been serious destabilization in south asia. With so many different languages and culture, I cannot imagine a one nation concept




why would so many small countries = destabilization? how did europe stay together? India in 1947 = EU in 1999. No british would have meant India = Europe with small diff nations. atleast we could have benefited from the industrial revolution.
 

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Rocketk2:

With so many different languages and culture, I cannot imagine a one nation concept


daaniki kuda naa daggara oka logic undi ..

Marathas ruled from Tamil areas to Guj/MP/UP belt .. Cholas ruled from Tamilnadu to Bengal along the coast .. even Chalukyas/Vijayanagaras ruled Kannada and Telugu areas .. anni multi-lingual kingdoms ee .. ekkado bayata nunchi vachi Britishollu, Mughals manani kaliparu anukovadam logical ga ledu ..

Ruj:

but egoes r extremely high to accept our shortcomings or failures..


totally true rujju .. kaani egos ni tagginchedi ela? solution enti?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:58 am:       


Tilak:


https://ccsinternship.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/did-india-ben efit-from-colonial-rule/ Must Read



Nice Article.
InfraStructure and industry growth would have happened eventually. Growth vundedhi kaani slow ga vundehi.

But this whole unity in diversity concept vudedhi kaadhu ani naa abhiprayam. If colonial rule was not there India would have been multiple small countries. There probably would have been serious destabilization in south asia. With so many different languages and culture, I cannot imagine a one nation concept

I believe the colonial rule helped draw boundaries and hold the country inwards.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:52 am:       


Bugatti:

British olu lekapothe india lo english medha pattu vundedhi kadhu...




em farak padedhi? just chance events anthey. hitler gelichuntey world would have been talking in english. america lo independence apudu voting lo german lost to english by 1 vote. lekuntey american national lang would be german and we would all be speaking that.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:50 am:       

there are 2 sides to the colonial rule.....firstly we became a united nation of

Jatayu:

oka thokkalo question.. Hindi language nunchi Urdu vachinda.. Urdu nunchi Hindi vachinda.. Moghuls vachemunde Hindi unda.. leda valla tarvata Hindi language Indialo vistarinchinda.. silly question aithe manninchandi..


Urdu is hindi in which some arabic words are induced.....most of the Q sound words are from arabic....like kha(q)wahish etc etc

hindi is subsect of sanskrit.....hindi script devanigiri script of sanskrit are same
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:46 am:       

benefit aa ru kidding me?? millions chanipoyaru, ghoralu chesaru

nothing good abt it? trains ki education padipoyara chess
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 09:44 am:       

to be very honest..

desis ki high education or wealth translates into western culture..

manam indian culture antam kaani chala mandhilo under current ga western supremacy acceptance undi..

chala mandhi uuth ki mana desi culture ante helana ekkuva..

ex arranged marriages ante edho guilty ga feel avutar..

basic ga one wordlo mock western nations is the way to go in india among the major part of intellectual community..
..or on the other extreme u have people who hate everything western from the start go and believe women supression etc..



we r a big confused culture..centuries of poverty, illteracy, malnutrition and supression has killed indian soul..age old practices, rituals, traditions got carried over miraculously but soul and essence got killed..

and present uuth in india is going through the worst possible phase by associating with rowdy rogues, feudal lords and cinema actors as saviors of society..sontha ooru, caste, place nundi heroes vethukuntunaru(correction heroes ni chesthunaru) balavanthamga..


we just know long long ago,konni satabhdahal kritham manam tathalu keka ani.adhe ippudu dappu kottukuntu tiruguthunam..

but egoes r extremely high to accept our shortcomings or failures..



 

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Pavala:

inka kottu kattandi


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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 08:48 am:       

India emo gaani, I am personally benefited ani sepaalani undhi...like all the DBers...inka kottu kattandi
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 08:38 am:       

adedo britishers charity tho mana desanni uddarinchinattu asalu arguments ela chestaam? mana land meeda manaki gouravam undada??

they fckin looted us..period..and they destroyed tons of shit..ofcourse we gave them a chance not being united...but that shouldnt mean we should support britishers
 

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idi elaa undi ante...okalla intlo dongalu padi mottham dochesi illu koolagotti velpote..

arrerey...dongalu padatam valana manaki entha manchi jarigindi..malli kotta saaman konukovachu..dongalu vere bhashalo matladukunnaru manam kooda nerchukuni..ippudu illu ledu kabatti aa bhashalo bayata adukkovacchu...asalu dongalu intlo padakapoyunte manaki kotta bhasha vacchedaa...annattu undi..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 06:36 am:       


Bongaram:

Japanese, koreans malay, arabs, chinese, germans, french and most part of europe studied in their local languages were never at a disadvantage to become stronger economically.


IMHO - The thing is .. most of the academic development that should have happened in Indian languages has stopped around 800-500 years ago .. unlike Chinese, Japanese, Koreans or French, Russians .. so we lost touch with all the intellectual stuff for a significant era .. as an example .. people say .. Algebra was inspired from classical Sanskrit works .. and then it went to Arab and later Europe .. aa time lo manam ikkada .. "Sanskrit to Parsi" and later "Parsi to English" transition lo unnam (in a broad pattern) bcoz they were the "administrative" languages with "money" .. anthe tappa .. we could not hold on/research and develop, what was ours similarly in Calculus, Chemistry, Metallurgy, Astronomy etc .. where Sanskrit supposedly holds tonnes of data ..

Bongaram:

english only saved us a little from falling to an even a worse position than we currently are subjected to by local brits.. ie Gandhi dynasty.


not exactly .. :-)

India by 1952 was holding on to 3% of world's GDP anedi oka estimate .. today we are around only 2%. Prior to 1991, we dropped by to 1% (ante mana chuttu unna prapancham parugulu teesthe .. manam dekkukuntoo munduki vellam 1950-90) and we lost hugely, relatively.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 05:52 am:       

dont understand y english education is a blessing?

Japanese, koreans malay, arabs, chinese, germans, french and most part of europe studied in their local languages were never at a disadvantage to become stronger economically.

english only saved us a little from falling to an even a worse position than we currently are subjected to by local brits.. ie Gandhi dynasty.

may be if not for english and the meagre employment we received, we would have thrown this dynasty much earlier
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 05:07 am:       


Bugatti:

English is gods language


 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:11 am:       


Bugatti:

antha bagundiÂ

kani rasindi...akahariki eeda telugu lo type chesina alphabetlu koda angla bashavey....Â


kikikiÂ

English is gods language



Adhi koodaa try chesaanu. ... db lo funny fonts vasthaa for some reason.

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Adhee matter. Naa telugu bhaasha patuthvam meedha meeku sandheham akkareldhu plus naa kannaa entho chaakti telugu maatlaadagaligina vaallu kottu vunnaaru.

Chethanaithe db lo telugu font accept chese code pani lo vundandi
 

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Bugatti:

English is gods language


All hail the queen ..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:00 am:       


Bhaarathsammaan:




antha bagundi

kani rasindi...akahariki eeda telugu lo type chesina alphabetlu koda angla bashavey....


kikiki

English is gods language
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 02:00 am:       


Tilak:

Asalu Britishers did not fight "Mughals" to conquer India ..




Yup - one of the smoothest transition in history :D
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Bhaarathsammaan:

sivaji laanti vaallu


any king will fight against the one who try to invade. Sivaji intaku minchi emi chesadu as a patriot.. aa invaders Muslims ayyaru kabatti eeyana Hindu rakshakudu ayyadu.. ade aa pakka rajyam vallu hindus ayyunte Sivaji chesdi ade pani kada..? Did he try to unite all the hindu rulers to fight against Muslim rulers?
 

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Chanakya:

No - Britisher were only able to conquer when Mughals were weakest and at that very point India still had Hindus as majority. So even if Britishers hadnt rules, India would still had been Hindu majority state.


Asalu Britishers did not fight "Mughals" to conquer India .. Mughals calmly signed and surrendered. It was Marathas who fought British and lost.

Thikka_sankara:

Annai adedo syndrome undantakadaa etadi??? Adi Ekkuva le manollaki.... Anduke britishodi meeda vallamaalina prema....


exactly .. Stockholm Syndrome ekkuva manaki .. ee rogam kudarchataniki rehab centres pedithe .. all over country .. super hit business .. clients tho kala kala kala ladipovaala :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:55 am:       


Srisaila:



Avvakapoyi vundavacchu koodaa.

Meeru aa time lo patriotism ni takkuva gaa anchanaa vesthunnaaru. Aa cruel rule end avvakapoyi vundi vunte sivaji laanti vaallu inko kotha mandhi vacchevÃlemo.

It's all speculation.
 

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Annai adedo syndrome undantakadaa etadi??? Adi Ekkuva le manollaki.... Anduke britishodi meeda vallamaalina prema....
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Srisaila:

British rakapoi unte manam ipudu inko Pakisthan la ayyevaallam... everyone converted to Muslims




No - Britisher were only able to conquer when Mughals were weakest and at that very point India still had Hindus as majority. So even if Britishers hadnt rules, India would still had been Hindu majority state.
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Srisaila:

British rakapoi unte manam ipudu inko Pakisthan la ayyevaallam... everyone converted to Muslims..


1857 ki .. entire Indian sub continent lo only 25% were Muslims (meaning in all SAARC countries today) .. ee vishayam telusa?
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Bhaarathsammaan:

Mughals in a way are better...


British rakapoi unte manam ipudu inko Pakisthan la ayyevaallam... everyone converted to Muslims.., shia sunni fights, matham perutho laden lanti vaallaki coperation, USA tho fighting/USA encouraging gun culture to check China.. and what not..
 

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Bugatti:

British olu india ki ravadam oka rakamaina blesssing


nuvvu kinda link chadavakunda post chesaav kada? nijam cheppu .. :D
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:44 am:       

Mughals in a way are better...

They were staightforward in their minds....conversion by fear mongering. That was the only agenda for them.

So if feared of death convert to islam or if not feared then become a true patriot
 

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Bhaarathsammaan:

biggest damage British done is a constructive damage of indian minds uprooting the original Indian-ness from our hearts




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ya .its harsh truth , moghals (babar time ) lo kuda same , akbar time vache sariki konchem better becoz akbar is son of soil kabattti konchem indan laga behave chesevadu
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:38 am:       

British rule in my opinion is bad to India.
Manam mughals rule valla relativity lo British rule better gaa anipinchavacchu.... but they did lot damage to us.


Bugatti:

British olu lekapothe india lo english medha pattu vundedhi kadhu...



Unfortunately mana meedha aa impression padipoyindhi.... One USA raising as super power valla 2 mana bhaavajaalam. There is a nice article (I lost it now but will share if I find) saying how less the English language is used in the world. In fact the official language of UN is french. USA made difference to indian minds.

Coming back to point

What I feel the biggest damage British done is a constructive damage of indian minds uprooting the original Indian-ness from our hearts. The only thing left in our minds is fake Indian-ness.

Many count culture of India being posh speaking English better, being rich, etc OR the other side......doing some three times pooja, independence day na salute kottatam etc....

naranaraanaa white-ness tho nindipoyi manaki teliyakundaane ilaa besharam gaa migilipoyaam. No one has respect for original hinduthva. Koncham dabbu raagaane first choosedhi thella tholu ni elaa imitate cheddaamu ani....

This is the main damage done by British rule in India.


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Srisaila:

India current shape... largest democracy.. 29 states as one nation.. British vaalla bicham




pak tho lifetiume fights kuda britich vadi bicham

okadu(britsh) lekapothe world aagipodu , konchem slow ga develop ayyevallam kani mana sampada(gold diamonds etc..) mana daggare undedi intha poor counry ga matram unde vallamu kadu
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:37 am:       


Prouddesi:

chala areas lo first night british vadito undedi ,from second night sontha husband tho kapuram , neechati neecham


 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:37 am:       


Srisaila:

India current shape... largest democracy.. 29 states as one nation.. British vaalla bicham..




You mean partitioning Pak and creating Kashmir problem? :D
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:36 am:       


Jatayu:




I think Urdu influenced Hindi anukovachu, but Hindi is more of a derivation of Sanskrit.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:35 am:       

+ve : railways and post and english education

-ve : chala areas lo first night british vadito undedi ,from second night sontha husband tho kapuram , neechati neecham , britis gallani sajeeva saamuhika dahanam cheyali oka truck petrol posi
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:32 am:       

India current shape... largest democracy.. 29 states as one nation.. British vaalla bicham..
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:31 am:       


Chanakya:

Britishers unapudu kuda kottukunnam kada



naam me sab kuch hai.. :-)

oka thokkalo question.. Hindi language nunchi Urdu vachinda.. Urdu nunchi Hindi vachinda.. Moghuls vachemunde Hindi unda.. leda valla tarvata Hindi language Indialo vistarinchinda.. silly question aithe manninchandi..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:28 am:       


Srisaila:

British rakunda unte.. Tilak=Turak, Chankya=ChandBhai, Srisaila=Suleman ga keyboard kottukunevaallam... kikik




Britishers unapudu kuda kottukunnam kada :D
You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:28 am:       


Jatayu:

vellani enduko ekkuva glorify sestar anipistadi




Let me correct it to worthy Indian ruler :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:27 am:       


Srisaila:

Tilak=Turak, Chankya=ChandBhai, Srisaila=Suleman ga keyboard kottukunevaallam



Jatayu = jalimlotion antava endi..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:24 am:       

British rakunda unte.. Tilak=Turak, Chankya=ChandBhai, Srisaila=Suleman ga keyboard kottukunevaallam... kikiki
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:23 am:       


Chanakya:

Rajputs



vellani enduko ekkuva glorify sestar anipistadi.. baga selfish rulers anipistadi.. no unity.. so might not have been possible..
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:19 am:       


Jatayu:

then there is no after moghuls naa




it might :-) After moghuls, Rajputs again ruled over India ani chadivevallam emo :D
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:16 am:       

We lost our identity during Mughal & British rule.

Mana temples chaala dwamsam ayyayi Mughal period lo.

Oka rakanga British rule ravatam Mughals nunchi vimukthinichindhi.

But again Britishers looted us.

But still Indian roots unnayante chaala great land manadhi.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:16 am:       


Chanakya:

After Moghuls if Britisher werent there



then there is no after moghuls naa :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 01:08 am:       

I have slight negative feeling about it. After Moghuls if Britisher werent there, we might have built ourselve. India lo mari slave mentality kadu kada? if Britishers havent taught us, we would have taught ourselves. We have rich heritage lo look up too.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 12:51 am:       

okati matram mummataniki sahajam..... British olu lekapothe india lo english medha pattu vundedhi kadhu...


British olu india ki ravadam oka rakamaina blesssing
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 12:51 am:       

There is good & bad about british rule.

Sir ardhur cotton laanti Mahanubhavulu unnaru.

Basical Indians ki inferiority complex manalni manam chachina nammam andhuke ila edcham anthaku minchi thellollani thittukuni em labham ledhu.
 

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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 12:47 am:       

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