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Imran was a cheat so even if he was good he will always be an arsehole.


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Kapil is the most gifted and natural all rounder among the 4. Imran worked seriously on his flaws and became consistent performer. But he was lucky as he always got good support. He used to come in short spells and excel.Hadlee and Botham have limited exposure to sub continent.

His knee injury has taken all the venom out of his bowling
Batting - he should have taken more seriously would have easily made 2000 more runs

He won many matches for India with Batting
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west indies meeda botham records endi??




Botham in West Indies is his only weak point..that was clearly known to everyone

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/9163.html?cla ss=1;template=results;type=allround
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jadlee ni pedda batsmen ani evaru anukoledu lendi he did not have many 50s either ..

kakpote aa tme lo nz team lo pedda averags levvu 20-30 kodite allrounder khatalo esetollu
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asala botham nalugurlo chinna pillala meeda utukudu wickets teeyudu type




Botham turned around lot of matches with either bat or ball..

Kapil had the potential..but lacked the discipline
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Raman vonnai.. single hand tho poradings kada imran kosami..

Hadlee,Botham teliviga subcontinent vijit cheyaledhu bekas sub conti pitched were for spinners ani.. mana kapiludu sub continent lo raffadinchad.. i rate kapils 400 wkts higher than hadlees anyday..
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west indies meeda botham records endi?? australia india pakistan kummude kummudu
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early part of kapil ayite bowling ok but not as good as imran imran played as batsmen in several test matches i think in 1983 series anukunta he didnt bowl a single ball yet played4 or 5 tests




anduke kada Imran top in batting amongst the all rounders

he took his batting seriously..

most overrated in the batting department ante Hadlee vunkul ..very few match winning ..performances with his bat..
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that's true Dennis lilee never played in India even mc grath only played one series anukunta in desam.
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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hadlee peddaga tour cheyyaledu kakapote world record kosam vachadu aa series 2-1 india neggindi he got over all 20-21 wickets in 3 test matches

oka test lo 10 wickets teesi nz ni gelipinchadu i think mumbai anukunta
all india pacers filed in that series kapil got around 10 wickets
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asala botham nalugurlo chinna pillala meeda utukudu wickets teeyudu type


He had good records against Australia and WI.


Imran was a cheat so even if he was good he will always be an arsehole.
Indian cities have their share of problems, but they are also places where you can walk around their shadiest areas at 1 am and be safer than say parts of Chicago, NYC, London, Madrid, Sydney etc...
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I agree with your list but how good were botham & hadle in subcontinent?




land of snake charmers and elephants with no western toilets kabatti ekkuva visit seyyaledu doralu :D

Botham kurrod played Jubilee test and Hadlee visited earlier in the career..

otherwise lot of Aus/NZ players did not visit..vindia..
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botham is earlier generation ani pakkana pettan.

I agree with your list but how good were botham & hadle in subcontinent?
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i herd commentators taking anyways google cheyyand imran pak lo 93-94 esadu ani ayite vinna
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bowling hadlee ayite batting imran but kapil is equally good in both kakapote discipline leka chedadobbadu konni ..

imran equally good bowler if not better than kapil

asala botham nalugurlo chinna pillala meeda utukudu wickets teeyudu type
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Raman:

eti mesharu cricinfo loki velli imran profile chudandi fast medium ani unda fast ani unda?


profile dhi em vundi rasinodini batti vuntadi
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early part of kapil ayite bowling ok but not as good as imran imran played as batsmen in several test matches i think in 1983 series anukunta he didnt bowl a single ball yet played4 or 5 tests
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Competition em vundi oka rendu balls esi pakkana kukovatame kada ayina he was the worst of the all rounders of his era with Botham the best.




small correction

Batting aithe..

Imran
Botham
Kapil
Hadlee

Bowling aithe

Hadlee
Botham
Kapil
Imran
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inka ESPN kooda tappu ante mee istam


espn ni tappu anadam ledu naaku sariga gurturadam ledu brain lonchi bayataki vachetappudu konchem order maripovachu
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Darth_vader:

Davudaaaa imran 90 miles speed aaa he was just fast medium like kapil.


eti mesharu cricinfo loki velli imran profile chudandi fast medium ani unda fast ani unda?
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Best team of the last two decades has been Australia and tendlyas record against them speaks for itself. Lara runs him close in tests but in ODIs no one even comes close.

Gloried flat track bullies like sanga & kallis ni pakkana eyyandi ehe discussion ninchi
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Raman gaaru : please check the stats here where imran played 5 testes in that series.


ok naaku gurtu undi cheptunna
he did not play 3rd test last 2 tests chala takkuva single digitovers bowling chesadu
i think ayana veltanu anna vellaneeyaledo leka 4th test ki mallivachado sariga gurtuledu
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Davudaaaa imran 90 miles speed aaa he was just fast medium like kapil.

Competition em vundi oka rendu balls esi pakkana kukovatame kada ayina he was the worst of the all rounders of his era with hadlee the best. Kapil was some where in between.
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Wi ki king emoo bongu gadu...

Sachin is king of the largest cricketing nation in the UNIVERSE
Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting
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Raman gaaru : please check the stats here where imran played 5 testes in that series.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60482.html?view =records

inka ESPN kooda tappu ante mee istam
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Enti Vayya ESPN lo chuste. he played 5 testes, 8 innigs batting
took 14 wickets in 5 tests

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most _runs_career.html?id=223;type=series

I think the point you try to make is Imran has played that otherwise Pak would not have lot. LOL. Imran played the series
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Imran played 5 testes 18 wickets


idi tappu stats second test ki imran ellipoyadu
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1982-83 Series India Vs pak, India lost 3-0


telusu mesharu ayana nenu pettina mohinder video chusi cheppadu he is right adi 1982 in pak actually mojinder was hit by thomson on head and was out of cricket for couple of years tarvatha idi mallee oka 5 months out anukunta
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Raman and Raju.. both are getting consuef with different series
1979-1980 : India vs pak (6 tests) india won by 2-0
Kapil Dev Man of the series with 32 wickets in 6 testes
Imran played 5 testes 18 wickets
Sikandhar Bhakt - 24 wickets

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1982-83 Series India Vs pak, India lost 3-0
Imran Man of the series with 40 wickets
Kapil 24 wickets
Except Mohinder, Gavakar and Kapil, rest of the team was awfully out of form
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meeru max wickets anagane ardam ayyindi mudassar and imran ani

btw aa match 3rd day ki ku mundu sikander bhakt met with an accident and hospitalised ani paperlo chadivam hammayya second innings bowling ki radu anukunnam
teera chuste adi BJP leader sikander bhakt :d
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raju link not working




ee link soodandi aithe..

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60507.html

total series lo 6 tests lo we lost 3..Imran kurrod 40 wickets in that series
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yup 1980
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63250.html




aa Sikandar bhakt time ki TV ledu..TV lo replay ledu kada..

only after Asian Games - 82..tV vachindi chaala houses lo..and then kirket was live or at least highlights were there..
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yup 1980
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63250.html
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Michael holding.. thats mom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaEpkOwqDE4
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Raman:

raju link not working
ayina nenu cheppindi imran india vachi adina series ikkada max wickets ante manollu pakistan vellindi mudassar gadu 7 100 lo enno kottadu adi anukunta




82-83 .. Imran and Muddassar iddar kummaru..this was in Pak

if you are talking about Sikandar Bhakth..that was 79-80 series anukonta..
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ayina nenu cheppindi imran india vachi adina series ikkada max wickets ante manollu pakistan vellindi mudassar gadu 7 100 lo enno kottadu adi anukunta
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naa varaku best swing bowler last decade antey Mohammed Asif.....for whatever i watched him......picchi pune gaadu couldnt handle the fame....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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yeah but imran hardly played if i remember correctly injured ani elli poyadu after 1 test .. sikander bhakt was their main bowler for the rest of the series




OK..here you go..providing stats for your info :D

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most _wickets_career.html?id=248;type=series

he was the leading wicket taker in that series
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vunkl, bowling a few fast balls issue kaadhi anukunta. 139 decent speed ye kadha vunkl


deference between genuine fast bowler and medium is where fast bowler average speed is about 140 plus medium pacer can occasionally bowl 140

ayin aa speed test konchem hard conditions 90 datlekapoyaru barring thommo
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Bradman played 52 test matches over 20 years, in modern cricket you play that amount of matches in around 5 or 6 years (along with the other formats). The fitness level required to manage the schedule of modern day cricket is much higher than before. Sachin has played 162 tests in 20 years along with 440 ODIs.In the present schedule,Every year there are atleast 10 Tests and 30 ODIs each year.




this arugment actually works against.its like saying if you play one test every year, you should be able to score a dobule century, i would think it will be all the more difficult
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aa series nen whole gaa watching sesan..if you are talking about 82-83 series


yeah but imran hardly played if i remember correctly injured ani elli poyadu after 1 test .. sikander bhakt was their main bowler for the rest of the series
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I think Bradman is highly overrated batsman .Out of his 52 matches he played 37 matches against England , 5 matches against India, 5 matches against South Africa and 5 matches against West indies.So in his entire career he scored maximum runs against England and I think England never had best bowlers in the past compared to other countries like Australia,west indies,India and south africa




if they were so weak, why were others not scoring?
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mohinder 1 year out avvadaniki imran karanam




aa series nen whole gaa watching sesan..if you are talking about 82-83 series
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vunkl, bowling a few fast balls issue kaadhi anukunta. 139 decent speed ye kadha vunkl
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I think Bradman is highly overrated batsman .Out of his 52 matches he played 37 matches against England , 5 matches against India, 5 matches against South Africa and 5 matches against West indies.So in his entire career he scored maximum runs against England and I think England never had best bowlers in the past compared to other countries like Australia,west indies,India and south africa




Sir Don Bradman - Is it fair to rate him above batsmen of other eras?
A lot of times we hear people saying that X batsman is the best "after Bradman" or Y batsman comes close to Sir Donald Bradman even if that player does not belong to Bradman's era.
Is it really fair to rate him above all the other players in the history of cricket??

Lets take a look at the conditions faced by the batsmen of different eras compared to Sir Don's era.

Number of oppositions

Bradman has played most of his matches against 1 team with an average of around 92 and one series against each minnows [India, SouthAfrica and WestIndies were new in cricket that time] and scored heavily against them. There were only 2 major teams at that time and out of which Australia were better, England didn't even have quality bowlers at that time apart from the bodyline series.

In the later eras, teams had to play against different oppositions who all specialised in
different skills(e.g. India were known for their great spinners and West Indies were known
for their brutal fast bowlers),on different grounds, conditions,etc. and had to adjust
according to it.

Rules of the game

Bradman played test matches when there was no time limit of five days so Bradman had full time to get used to every type of situation unlike how it became later when there was a 5 day limit.

The LBW law in Bradman’s time was that could only be given out if the ball pitched and hit in line with the stumps and then went on to hit them. This automatically rules out the in-swinger, the in-cutter, and the off-spinning deliveries that pitch outside but come in enough to hit in line. This is as potent a weapon for the bowler as the catch or even more as you can pad up to any ball outside off and get away. The batsman also gets the advantage when he is unsure which way the ball would go as he can again pad up and nullify the in-coming as well as the out-going delivery. Bradman was out leg before just six times in his career. The argument that he was so good that he was rarely struck in front of the wicket does not hold as he was bowled 23 times.


Bowling quality of the opposition

The bowling has become so advanced in modern cricket as compared to what it was before.The invention of reverse swing, doosra and all the different kinds of variations that make it difficult for the batsmen to stay at the wicket and keep scoring the runs easily.

Players like Sachin have played against Ambrose-Walsh-Bishop, Wasim-Waqar-Akhtar-Saqlain, McGrath-Lee-Gilespie-Warne, Donald-Pollock,Murali and many more. What about Bradman?
How many of bowlers of England were world class at that time??


Bodyline bowling (which was dealt with players in the later eras)

His average which was usually over 100 in maximum series came down to just 56 in bodyline series. This was the time when he was put under some real pressure with bouncers and aggressive bowling.

The players of later eras, had to face bouncers and hostile bowling a lot more then Bradman did and they still managed to score heavily.
Lillee,Thompson,Holding,Marshall,Roberts,Colin Croft,Joel Garner,etc. were all very brutal
bowlers and also used the bouncers effectively but someone like Gavaskar still managed to score against them with ease without a helmet, he averaged 65 against the great West Indian fast bowlers who were much more skilled than most of the bowlers in Bradman's time.


Workload

Bradman played 52 test matches over 20 years, in modern cricket you play that amount of matches in around 5 or 6 years (along with the other formats). The fitness level required to manage the schedule of modern day cricket is much higher than before. Sachin has played 162 tests in 20 years along with 440 ODIs.In the present schedule,Every year there are atleast 10 Tests and 30 ODIs each year.


Pitches

And talking about the wickets, the wickets of that time weren't so bad, most of them were
batting wickets apart from the sticky wickets where Bradman never succeeded and Jack Hobbs was considered a master on them.


All I m trying to prove here is that you can never ever compare between players of different eras, Bradman was the greatest of his era and i salute him for his contribution to the game and his country, but similarly a lot of others have been excellent and dominated their respective eras, rating Bradman above all the others on the basis of his average is not fair.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eym816XG2vc

1979 speed test
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vook Imran fans, he was a big time cheater. there have been proofs. Wasim was also involved but at later stages he did well without having to cheat.
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mohinder 1 year out avvadaniki imran karanam
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imran ni maree deboshish mohanty ni sesi paresaaru kada.. I didnt see him bowling in early years.. but 87-92 time lo he swung the ball pretty nicely..




82-83 series nunchi soosthu unna Imran kurrod bowling..eppudu outswinger vesthada ani :D

btw..Debasish Mohanty is the Indian version of Sarafaraz Nawaz..with no control...

atla gaalilo ball vadaladame pani..aa taruvatha daivadeenam..

I am ready to correct my opinion on Imran..if someone can show me some outswingers bowled by him..from any videos online..
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Akram was fastest to come out of pak those day anukunta till shoaib.




shoaib around inkokadu dhigaadu.. Mohammad zaid ani, he was faster than Shoaib, but his career was short due to injuries.
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Akram has admitted openly is Kapil is complete bowler
with everything

It is Kapil who is best in Swing Bowling , better than Sarfaraz.
But he did not know the art of late swing which Sarfaraz was guru

Imran, Sarfaraz, Akram, Waqur every one tempered the balla, by lifting the seam and scrubbing with bottle cap to attain reverse swing

Sachin always used to play with Authority against the Great Wasim. That is Sachin
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Imran Khan only ..In swinger/cutter..and a straight ball.




raju garu.. imran ni maree deboshish mohanty ni sesi paresaaru kada.. I didnt see him bowling in early years.. but 87-92 time lo he swung the ball pretty nicely..
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Raju goru

Never mind. Gelusthe happies anthe .. No hopes at all .. Weakest Safa WC team ever
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Wasim had everything that a bowler can dream off.....


What a sight to watch akram bowl.....anyday..




Wasim..Shane Warne..
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anyone remember Vivian richards Vimal ad? it was a rage then....

Ravi shashtri uncle ad also famous....
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Teluguhero:

I don't think so.

If CRICKET is Hindu Religion- SACHIN is one of the 3 crore gods. LOL



yeiii amitaavachan....
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Sarfaraz was King of Swing(with help from Coca Cola anuko).I watched him bowl.

Imran Khan only ..In swinger/cutter..and a straight ball...TV lo vachina Pak matches anni nen soosi unta..never saw him bowl genuine out swinger..

Akram different league
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Sarfraz had more control than Imran......

Imran had cutters....

Wasim had everything that a bowler can dream off.....


What a sight to watch akram bowl.....anyday......India lo puttedu kaadhu......
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Evadehe Tendilya

Anneeesi matches aadithe evadina kodataadu .. Sanga gaadu close ochesaadu mari .. Sanath gaadu vandala koddi aadadu aadu kooda almost near




thammudu enti SA games appudu DB lo kanapadatledu ...kiki

inka knock outs raaledu..appudu appudu posts vesthundu :D
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If CRICKET is Religion- SACHIN is GOD!

There could be n number of Kings but only one GOD!




I don't think so.

If CRICKET is Hindu Religion- SACHIN is one of the 3 crore gods. LOL
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Getafix:

Imran was king of swing.. Akram was fastest to come out of pak those day anukunta till shoaib.

sarfaraz as a bowler eppudu chudaledhu.




you got the order reversed..

Sarfaraz was King of Swing(with help from Coca Cola anuko).I watched him bowl.

Imran Khan only ..In swinger/cutter..and a straight ball...TV lo vachina Pak matches anni nen soosi unta..never saw him bowl genuine out swinger..

Akram different league
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Imran was king of swing..




Bongemi Kaadu. Angular ga vochi, incutter vestaadu. Rare ga Inswing chestaadu
Later part of the career lo legcutter nerchukunnadu.

Kapil, Akram and walsh, Prabhakar Veelu considered as Aultahn of Swing
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Aloknath ki vivian richards ki common enti.......


Neena gupta ani ippudey thelisindhi.




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Neena lo intha perv angle undhi anukoled.. one side calypso other side samskar sansar aa..all these days Neena, Anju Mahendru types kaadu anukunna..
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Evadehe Tendilya

Anneeesi matches aadithe evadina kodataadu .. Sanga gaadu close ochesaadu mari .. Sanath gaadu vandala koddi aadadu aadu kooda almost near

Boom boom gaadu 400 wickets mari .. Aadiki Pollock, Walsh kante ekkuva wickets ..
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aa jump...tho antha speed generate cheyyali antey......linga throw okatey margam....i will be very surprised if Imran clocked that speed.....unless shakoor raana was measuring the speed and Mudassar Najar recording it...




exactly..ade nen septhundi..
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket-imran-admits-chea ting-glenn-moore-on-the-book-throwing-light-on-a-touchy-subj ect-1434755.html
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hat too he delivers the ball with a jump..




raju garu.. generating pace with jump ante madan lal kurrod.. . everybody nest
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Imran was king of swing
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with a bottle cap that is....ani small print....pettandi
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Imran is rated as Fast Bowler. He participated in Fast Bowling competetion and came Second after Andy Roberts in 1 year. Waqar and Akthar antha kaadu.

Kapil is Medium Fast right from his career. But used to be very sharp. He came second in the wolrd allrounder competetion next to clive Rice of SA.
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Kish:

If CRICKET is Religion- SACHIN is GOD!

There could be n number of Kings but only one GOD!



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HD

Thats what I was talking .. Only batting and runs criteria ante Viv but this is abt best cricketer in ODIs..

Mambaa

Tendilya list lo unna gelvaled.. Makes us even :D
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Kish:

If CRICKET is Religion- SACHIN is GOD!


no cricket is not a religion...so fold and......aaaah!
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Aloknath ki vivian richards ki common enti.......


Neena gupta ani ippudey thelisindhi.....


oka horse oka snail......tho neena gupta
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Imran was king of swing.. Akram was fastest to come out of pak those day anukunta till shoaib.

sarfaraz as a bowler eppudu chudaledhu.
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Mental_sachinodu:

Bradman stays at a level that cannot be touched even by best of other sports. Someone like Michael jordan falls behind Bradman, when a comparision is made against his own game contemporaries.




I think Bradman is highly overrated batsman .Out of his 52 matches he played 37 matches against England , 5 matches against India, 5 matches against South Africa and 5 matches against West indies.So in his entire career he scored maximum runs against England and I think England never had best bowlers in the past compared to other countries like Australia,west indies,India and south africa
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imran khan peak speed 93-94 ani sepparu experts appatlo
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vaters entha ginjukunna..TENDLYA undisputed !!


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If CRICKET is Religion- SACHIN is GOD!

There could be n number of Kings but only one GOD!
|| || PK || JP || MODI || CBN || SACHIN || JDLN || SIRIVENNELA || EENADU || HYDERABAD ||
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Humpty_dumpty:


late in career 90s lo
kumble 115-120 kapil average balls around 110 ..
slower balls kaadu :d
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Imran kurrod di ball kinda kotte action...andulo speed etla vasthundi..that too he delivers the ball with a jump..
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aa jump...tho antha speed generate cheyyali antey......linga throw okatey margam....i will be very surprised if Imran clocked that speed.....unless shakoor raana was measuring the speed and Mudassar Najar recording it....
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vaters entha ginjukunna..TENDLYA undisputed !!
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Raman:

kapil peak lo 75 plus


peak lo 75 aa

taruvaatha spinner aa
tendu vesay waadu 65 range lo
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Raman:

maree cheptaru hadlee and imran peak lo 90 above miles esetollu
kapil peak lo 75 plus




aa mugguru action soosthene telusthundi..there is no way..they can go to 90 miles or over anedi..

Imran kurrod di ball kinda kotte action...andulo speed etla vasthundi..that too he delivers the ball with a jump..

same goes for Kapil with his arm twisting..snake mixing action..

Hadlee has the smoothest action among Imran/Kapil/Hadlee..
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Neena gupta......butta lo pettesindhi......the daughter must have grown now


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaba_Gupta
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaba_Gupta
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Masaba Richards Gupta
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Chinnu:

But as a whole cricketer none comes close to Kallis ..



eng lo batting avg 33...bowlign sesi alisi poyi untaad
at home vs aus...31...aaakali vesi untaadhi
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all hail the king.....
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Neena gupta......butta lo pettesindhi......the daughter must have grown now
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Chinnu:

Viv might be the best bastman .. But as a whole cricketer none comes close to Kallis ..


poll lo top5 lo kooda ledu kikiki
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maree cheptaru hadlee and imran peak lo 90 above miles esetollu
kapil peak lo 75 plus

later part of their career they bowled slightly slower with limited run up
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asalu Kapil and Imran ni fast bowlers anatam endho.....vintha.....




kapil very beginning lo fast esevadanta annai.. but longevity kosam mediumpacer ayyadu.
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indulo undi 1979 study nadaggara undedi




about thommo

A severe injury resulted from an on-field collision with teammate Alan Turner as they both attempted a catch in the first Test match against Pakistan at Adelaide on Christmas Eve, 1976. A dislocation of his right collarbone forced him to miss the remainder of the season.[24] Although he returned to Test cricket during the 1977 Ashes series in England, he was never as consistently fast again.
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jodamma fanism is for humility.....nice behaviour.....etc etc etc.......adoka type fanism......
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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evaro kapil ni imran and hadlee to kalipesaru vallu vachi sorry cheppandi

imran 90 miles esevadu kaneesam hadlee kuda kapil sarfaraj range

speed machine vache time ki 120s lo esevadu uth lo max 130 ani na anumanam
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Mental_sachinodu:

dont know how true it is, but apparently Viv used to say, the day i will need an helmet to bat, i will retire ani.




dude was a party on and off the field. Cricket thalli muddu bidda. Most beloved cricketer through out the world.
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Holding/Willis/Roberts/Lillee
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ee list pakkana Imran entehes.....

asalu Kapil and Imran ni fast bowlers anatam endho.....vintha.....
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lolzz Jodha ki explanation lo Chiru ni thestheney kani ardhamavvadhu ani ala cheppav kadha


nag fan ...keep silence andi ....sichu pettakandi

jodhaa is like the fan in below...honest fanism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iamhIpas210
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Viv might be the best bastman .. But as a whole cricketer none comes close to Kallis ..
Where them girls at !
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VIV time lo ekkuva ODI's levu.....sachin time lo ODI's over ga aaderu.....

As run machine Sachin is top in ODI's and as a bowler he took too many wickets for a proper batsman.....


tests lo Sachin ki rating entehes.....Sunny gavaskar undaga......Rahul dravid undaga.....Sachin is third within India itself.....


last night watched Sir VIV's programme on cricket classics and his great years at somerset along with his best friend Alan botham......seasons varsaga chitaka baaderu every other county ni.....
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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283875.html

indulo undi 1979 study nadaggara undedi
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imran was in top 3 mari aa list lo


yevado secular candi list chesi untaadu
top 3 is comedy
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@H_D:+s , -s antha mee istam aa :D
chiru is not a great actor coz he did not do powraanikam annattu undhi
(N fan siloanesh applied smae logic ...daaniki meeru chakmaa khaa gaya)

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i think there was period of time when imran played domestic criket in aus...he was not fast before going there
he got bashed there...dil pe teesukunaad and put on muscle and learned to bowl faster ani talk
after that couple of yrs he was very fast compared to where he was...taruvaatha injuries walla played as a batter anukuntaaa for few series
but could not regain pace when started to rebowl


EK goru aa time lo susu untaar
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Mental_sachinodu:

the day i will need an helmet to bat, i will retire ani.




nen bhi ade rule follow ayya..

played leather ball kirket as opener for 10+ years..mostly on matting wickets..and very few on turf
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Rajusk:

Imran ni mee own quota lo vesara..kiki

vaadi action ki vaadu fastest ayyadu ante meeru nammuthara..

Holding/Willis/Roberts/Lillee is what I remember

and their action kind of makes it possible..




nenu adhe post cheyaboyaan... imran fast endhi naa shrimp... hadlee/kapil/imran same rangeee
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Imran ni mee own quota lo vesara..kiki


imran was in top 3 mari aa list lo before injury he was a fearsoe fast bowler
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Neena gupta anduke ala single mother la remained


dani face ki richards chala ekkuva ame oka 2-3 ppl tho livin ani chadiva tarvata i think she married some one secretly in states
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viv did not play holding and co ani gola seyyakandi siraag gaa
he played a lot of county cricket as well as "domestic " games against the same bowlers who represented WI

WI is not a country

packers world series okati undhi...IPL gaa baap in terms of player quality
akkada kooda bend teesaad andaridhi
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Raman:

appatlo worls fast bowler competition jarigindi first time recorded ..
Naa daggara list undedi

Thomson
imran
holding
roberts
lillee
garner




Imran ni mee own quota lo vesara..kiki

vaadi action ki vaadu fastest ayyadu ante meeru nammuthara..

Holding/Willis/Roberts/Lillee is what I remember

and their action kind of makes it possible..
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Getafix:

asvanti time lo viv used to bat without helmet.. gabasker types lo thothiri helmet kuda ettukoledu in his entire career




dont know how true it is, but apparently Viv used to say, the day i will need an helmet to bat, i will retire ani.
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adedo ashes song undi gaa vuncle.. if lilly doesnt then thomo must ani..

nenu okanoka time lo prime sports lo susan.. thomo was fastest in those days. asvanti time lo viv used to bat without helmet.. gabasker types lo thothiri helmet kuda ettukoledu in his entire career.. shamsher! Neena gupta anduke ala single mother la remained..kiki
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Getafix:

froblem endante.. dennis Lilly and Bob thompson were equally ferocious pace bowlers of that era.. but Andy roberts,Holding and garner legends avvatam valla kanapadaru..


thomson is the fastest bowler ever ani argue chestaru janalu even lillee said several times he bowled well over 100 miles anta

101-102 esevadu ani
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Getafix:


appatlo worls fast bowler competition jarigindi first time recorded ..
Naa daggara list undedi

Thomson
imran
holding
roberts
lillee
garner
willis
ila poyyedi list sarfraz 10th place lo unnadu


list edo ila undedi this is 1979 world cup edition anukunta some one presented me in 82

ante participated lot lo ranking
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Teluguhero:

Its not about statistics or centuries.As I mentioned compared to other batsmen in past and present, Gavasker faced best bowlers and he was highly successful.Even according to Richards,Gavaskar is the best batsmen in the world.




i understand your argument vunkl.. but just saying to beat bradman for the top sport its difficult for anyone. the argument would be simple, if bradman played the bowlers Gavaskar faced, may be he would succeeded as well.

the reason being, to someone to score at the pace of bradman, and consistency, it takes insane concentration. the reason he is considered as such is, if you apply statistical analysis of all time greats across all sports, Bradman stays at a level that cannot be touched even by best of other sports. Someone like Michael jordan falls behind Bradman, when a comparision is made against his own game contemporaries.

Gavaskar could be better than Bradman when it comes to technique.

btw, if all forms are included i would rate Sachin higher than Viv.
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froblem endante.. dennis Lilly and Bob thompson were equally ferocious pace bowlers of that era.. but Andy roberts,Holding and garner legends avvatam valla kanapadaru..

Viv faced Lilly,Botham,thomo,kapil and Hadlee in their prime.. I love sachin but Viv still the best ODI player.
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+1


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Mental_sachinodu:

bradman undaga... inkokaru pick avvatam next ki impossible anukunta...




Its not about statistics or centuries.As I mentioned compared to other batsmen in past and present, Gavasker faced best bowlers and he was highly successful.Even according to Richards,Gavaskar is the best batsmen in the world.
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Siloan:

but sirrrr goru..WI bowling ni face nahin kiya...
andha angle lo TENDLYA undisputed ek numberi


endi nee chetha argument tendulker ekkada face chesadu ? marshal roberts garner holding croft clark lani kaneesam patterson bishop lani ..

at least VIV time lo fastest bowlers Thomson Imran Lillee hadlee willis lani face chesadu
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Siloan:

andha angle lo TENDLYA undisputed ek numberi




Yak chee tendlya number enti hathavidi records cricketer vs complete cricketer
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nee tenki, aanest opinion adi. aina sr. most pk fan vi nuvvu, ila sinna ishayala ki navvithe ela :D
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asalu shortlist avvatame achievement, imagine ricky and shane warne leni list adi. dhoni should be proud and lucky



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Yes Richards Best ODI player agreed,but Why not best Test player ? I think Gavaskar is best Test player cause Gavaskar faced toughest and best bowlers in his career.




bradman undaga... inkokaru pick avvatam next ki impossible anukunta...
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ipudu best test player lo don kottestaadu. sachin will be runner up again!

asalu shortlist avvatame achievement, imagine ricky and shane warne leni list adi. dhoni should be proud and lucky
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Mental_sachinodu:

Sir Viv crowned officially by cricinfo as the Best ODI player.

asalu dheeni lo argument ye ledhu naaku ayithe... anyone who has seen him bat, it will be hard to pick anyone else.





Yes Richards Best ODI player agreed,but Why not best Test player ? I think Gavaskar is best Test player cause Gavaskar faced toughest and best bowlers in his career.
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Siloan:

.WI bowling ni face nahin kiya...




you have a point. but appatlo NZ/AUS had good ODI bowlers as well?

250 total great ane rojullo consistent ga 90+ SR ante na bhu na bhaa. aa generation lo 5k+ runs kotti what would be next highest SR
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Siloan:

but sirrrr goru..WI bowling ni face nahin kiya...
andha angle lo TENDLYA undisputed ek numberi


+1
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Siloan:

but sirrrr goru..WI bowling ni face nahin kiya...




but he still paced pretty good opponents vunkl...

to me he is greatest because he changed the way game was being played... he was a different phenomenon at that time... a great crowd puller... anyone who can come close is Sachin wrt to pulling the crowds, just to watch him play.
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sorry jacky mama



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Mental_sachinodu:

asalu dheeni lo argument ye ledhu naaku ayithe...


aithe thread enduku....
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mimmalni qvechhcan chesedi ledu
but sirrrr goru..WI bowling ni face nahin kiya...
andha angle lo TENDLYA undisputed ek numberi

sorry jacky mama
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Sir Viv crowned officially by cricinfo as the Best ODI player.

asalu dheeni lo argument ye ledhu naaku ayithe... anyone who has seen him bat, it will be hard to pick anyone else.

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