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Nanigadu:

idhi already 2 times chudatam aipoyyindhi


12 yrs a slave madyalo lo bore koduthundi...need patience to complete it
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@Bimmer:same theme tho vachina django unchained chudandi...racha...

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idhi already 2 times chudatam aipoyyindhi :-)
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Slavery anywhere is bad. Every society needs to condemn and strongly denounce it. West was wrong then, no doubt. even they accept it.
We should also look into our own past. samethings existed here. what is untouchability. who will pay for the mistake of the ancestors?
Casteism exists even today, why?
The US is in better position now and hence the preaching. Dont need to take it, do your due diligence
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Nanigadu:

ee cinema chuddamani netflix lo start chesina prathi sari stop chesanu
premise mana db lo reviews/opinions chusaka
chala kastham thattukotam aa torture anipinchindhi
edo oka roju chudali


same theme tho vachina django unchained chudandi...racha...telugu lo cheppalante mass masala action movie...if you prefer snail paced movie then 12 yrs a slave is ok
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Tilak:

so .. change the constitution .. and bring a law saying .. only a white can be the governor ..


Voters will decide whom to vote.......maa daggara oka philosophy follow ayitharu.. "If you are not white, you are not riht",
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demographics can change the politics in a state.....for example, ma state la US constitution establish ayina kelli White American had been governing the state...but last 7 years la blacks influx rate in our state has been increasing due to other states running out of welfare money....Now everyone is concerned that some day an Afro American man might become the governor of the state.so, registration lo race details isthe they can narrown down the rootcause when one candidate fails to win.


so .. change the constitution .. and bring a law saying .. only a white can be the governor ..
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Tilak:

why should colored people answer a tough questionnaire by a white official in order to be registered as voters? aa point ni answer cheyyagalava?


demographics can change the politics in a state.....for example, ma state la US constitution establish ayina kelli White American had been governing the state...but last 7 years la blacks influx rate in our state has been increasing due to other states running out of welfare money....Now everyone is concerned that some day an Afro American man might become the governor of the state.so, registration lo race details isthe they can narrown down the rootcause when one candidate fails to win.
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Braindrain:

I think the initiator of this thread did not start this topic to prove that India never had SLAVERY. His intention is very clear that STOP PREACHING WHEN YOU DO NOT PRACTISE - Which the so called western world does time & again specially in the modern history.

USA, France & UK have conducted multiple nuclear tests in Pacific ocean killing the marine life (did more than 500+ tests each), but when India which had to do nuclear tests in 1971 & 1998 due to security issues with Pakistan & China, we are given economic sanctions...

USA & the entire western world know that CHinese do not follow quality norms in their manufacturing industry, manipulate the international trade norms, but still have no guts to stop trading with China, because they own trillions to China...From plan to pin America imports from China...

All the western world have not only looted materialistic wealth, but also the human resources...SLAVERY was at peaks...Africans were grossly ill treated, Inidians were asked to fight in world war II for Britain etc...

India also had its own issues with caste system, slavery, but we never DICTATED to others...where as these western world does..

Tilak,

I strongly believe that every action in this universe is CYCLIC in nature...you do something good, you will get something GOOD somewhere in yuor lifetime, you do something bad, you will have to go thru the punishment in your lifetime. Anything which is surplus will be carry forwarded to yuor next life..No wonder your birth can be subject to the past deeds in yuor life. You can be born in Ethpopia or in Ambani's house..

On the same principle, every country will face the conseuqnces for the sins they have done.

America is the only country till date which has used AMOTIC POWER on civilian population (HIroshima / Nagasaki)...While it preaches to rouge countries like Pakistan, North Korea, Cuba, Iraq...none of them did use against men without arms.

America funded Afghan in 1980's against Sovite Union, they funded Irag against Iran in 1980s and finally they are facing the music against the islamis fundamentalists today.

Chessadhi papam, but cheppadhi mataram vedam - This is the nature of Western World. We cried in UNO saying Pakistan is crossing the international border in Kashmir time and again..no body cared..Today, the same Islam fundamentalist have become a pain in their rear ..be it in France, Beligium, UK or USA.


Awesome .. Thank you for posting .. thats what I really wanted to read .. I am glad you posted!!

Teluguhero:

According to Arthasastra, anyone who had been found guilty of nishpatitah (Sanskrit: निष�पातित, ruined, bankrupt, a minor crime)[14] may mortgage oneself to become dasa for someone willing to pay his or her bail and employ the dasa for money and privileges.[5][6]

Shamasastry's 1915 translation of Arthasastra describes the rights of dasa, confirming Kangle's contention that they were quite different than slaves in other ancient and medieval civilizations. For example, it was illegal to force a dasa (slave) to do certain types of work, to hurt or abuse him, or to force sex on a female dasa.[6]

Employing a slave (dasa) to carry the dead or to sweep ordure, urine or the leavings of food; keeping a slave naked; hurting or abusing him; or violating the chastity of a female slave shall cause the forfeiture of the value paid for him or her. Violation of the chastity shall at once earn their liberty for them.


No comparison anukunta kada with what west did ..
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Tilak:




I very much agree with your point....Great Britain, Persians, Portugal, Spain, France (in that order) have invaded, traded and looted the wealth of main rich countries (rich in natural resources) like India, China, Africa, South America, Australia...They spread Islam & Christanity by force or by service, but net net this led to more evil than good.

Coming to Slavery :


Teluguhero:



Mockingbird:




I think the initiator of this thread did not start this topic to prove that India never had SLAVERY. His intention is very clear that STOP PREACHING WHEN YOU DO NOT PRACTISE - Which the so called western world does time & again specially in the modern history.

USA, France & UK have conducted multiple nuclear tests in Pacific ocean killing the marine life (did more than 500+ tests each), but when India which had to do nuclear tests in 1971 & 1998 due to security issues with Pakistan & China, we are given economic sanctions...

USA & the entire western world know that CHinese do not follow quality norms in their manufacturing industry, manipulate the international trade norms, but still have no guts to stop trading with China, because they own trillions to China...From plan to pin America imports from China...

All the western world have not only looted materialistic wealth, but also the human resources...SLAVERY was at peaks...Africans were grossly ill treated, Inidians were asked to fight in world war II for Britain etc...

India also had its own issues with caste system, slavery, but we never DICTATED to others...where as these western world does..

Tilak,

I strongly believe that every action in this universe is CYCLIC in nature...you do something good, you will get something GOOD somewhere in yuor lifetime, you do something bad, you will have to go thru the punishment in your lifetime. Anything which is surplus will be carry forwarded to yuor next life..No wonder your birth can be subject to the past deeds in yuor life. You can be born in Ethpopia or in Ambani's house..

On the same principle, every country will face the conseuqnces for the sins they have done.

America is the only country till date which has used AMOTIC POWER on civilian population (HIroshima / Nagasaki)...While it preaches to rouge countries like Pakistan, North Korea, Cuba, Iraq...none of them did use against men without arms.

America funded Afghan in 1980's against Sovite Union, they funded Irag against Iran in 1980s and finally they are facing the music against the islamis fundamentalists today.

Chessadhi papam, but cheppadhi mataram vedam - This is the nature of Western World. We cried in UNO saying Pakistan is crossing the international border in Kashmir time and again..no body cared..Today, the same Islam fundamentalist have become a pain in their rear ..be it in France, Beligium, UK or USA.
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Dasi ani ma T muddubidda narsing rao garu eppudo teesaru adi chusara?
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ee cinema chuddamani netflix lo start chesina prathi sari stop chesanu
premise mana db lo reviews/opinions chusaka
chala kastham thattukotam aa torture anipinchindhi
edo oka roju chudali
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ilanti sinma lu chooste depression ostadi.. antha big heart unda..
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malla lolli shuru...
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racharikalo slavery world wide undi untundhi including india..there is no way there is not going to be slavery in racharikams..individual kingdoms exceptions ayyundachu..

but US la 1940-50ss varaku kooda black sportsmen etc had to face extreme discrimination..the way they behaved outside also mattered..

1910 varaku ayithe white odu black oditho adetodu kaadu..it was considered to be an insult..
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Tilak:

"3000 years hindu/Indian history" ..thats the time frame .. and we should have evidences to support that claim of slavery kada .. to make bonded labor consistent across ancient and medieval history of India and not a later day mishap!






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_India


Slavery in ancient India[edit]
Scholars differ whether slaves and slavery existed in ancient India. These English words have no direct, universally accepted equivalent in Sanskrit or other Indian languages, but some scholars translate the word dasa as slaves.[3] Ancient historians who visited India offer the closest linguistic equivalence in Indian society and slavery in other ancient civilizations. For example, the Greek historian Arrian, who chronicled India about the time of Alexander the Great, wrote in his Indika,[8]

The Indians do not even use aliens as slaves, much less a countryman of their own.

— The Indika of Arrian[8]
Upinder Singh interprets the word dasa (Sanskrit: दास) in the Rig Veda as slave.[9] Kangle,[10] and others,[11] offer a different interpretation, and suggest that the word dasa in Sanskrit is better translated as "enemy", "servant" or "religious devotee" depending on the context. More recent scholarly interpretations of the Sanskrit words dasa or dasyu suggest that these words used throughout the Vedas represents "disorder, chaos and dark side of human nature", and the verses that use the word dasa mostly contrast it with the concepts of "order, purity, goodness and light."[4] In some contexts, the word dasa refers to enemies and in other contexts, those who had not adopted the Vedic beliefs.[4] Dasa also appears in ancient Buddhist literature in various contexts. For example king's dasa, where it means personal servant; and Buddha-dasa, where it means one in service of Buddha.[12] Buddhist manuscripts also mention kapyari, which scholars have translated as a legally bonded servant (slave).[13]

Kautilya's Arthasastra dedicates the thirteenth chapter on dasas, in his third book on law. This Sanskrit document from the Maurya Empire period (4th century BCE), has been translated by several authors, each in a different manner. Shamasastry's translation of 1915 maps dasa as slave, while Kangle leaves the words as dasa and karmakara. Kangle suggests that the context and rights granted to dasa by Kautilya implies that the word had a different meaning than the modern word slave, as well as the meaning of the word slave in Greek or other ancient and medieval civilizations.[5]

According to Arthasastra, anyone who had been found guilty of nishpatitah (Sanskrit: निष्पातित, ruined, bankrupt, a minor crime)[14] may mortgage oneself to become dasa for someone willing to pay his or her bail and employ the dasa for money and privileges.[5][6]

Shamasastry's 1915 translation of Arthasastra describes the rights of dasa, confirming Kangle's contention that they were quite different than slaves in other ancient and medieval civilizations. For example, it was illegal to force a dasa (slave) to do certain types of work, to hurt or abuse him, or to force sex on a female dasa.[6]

Employing a slave (dasa) to carry the dead or to sweep ordure, urine or the leavings of food; keeping a slave naked; hurting or abusing him; or violating the chastity of a female slave shall cause the forfeiture of the value paid for him or her. Violation of the chastity shall at once earn their liberty for them.

— Arthashastra, Translated by Shamasastry[6]
When a master has connection (sex) with a pledged female slave (dasa) against her will, he shall be punished. When a man commits or helps another to commit rape with a female slave pledged to him, he shall not only forfeit the purchase value, but also pay a certain amount of money to her and a fine of twice the amount to the government.

— Arthashastra, Translated by Shamasastry[6]
A slave (dasa) shall be entitled to enjoy not only whatever he has earned without prejudice to his master's work, but also the inheritance he has received from his father.

— Arthashastra, Translated by Shamasastry[6]
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Vere continents nunchi techi vallani slaves laa vaadukovadam ni comparing with using labor from same country??

Africa lo chesindi hemto monnatidaka...Ippudu reverse apartheid anuko..
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US ::: Built by the Afro-Americans and owned by the Chinese

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the difference is that the US sytem of slavery was race based. clearly blacks was considered below dignity and were enslaved. their treatment of the japanese vs the germans/italians during WW1 and WW2 is an example of this thinking.

mana stories lo dasi could be translated as slave/servant. most of the slaves were from wars. and as usual with the old hindu society, everything was highly refined. one could sell oneself as a slave for a certain period of time; a master had as many duties towards a slave. but it definitely existed. when pandavas lose in joodam, what were they if not slaves/dasas?
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Raman...some say he banned slavery...some say he banned slave trade but not slavery....but there is definitely a mention of slavery during ashoka's time...adhe cheptunnaa...ashoka ante 3rd century bc anukunta...anthaka mundu enni yrs nunchi vundoo evariki thelusu...british vadu raka munde eppudoo dutch etc koodaa vachi slaves ni konukkoni slave trade chesevallu...it is clearly documented in history....u can look it up....india loo slaves lekapothe vallu slave trade elaa chestharu vere chota nunchi vachi (europeans were not the rulers at that time, they were just traders)....spice trade lagane slave trade koodaa vundedi....inka turakolla gurinchi cheppakkaraledu..... qutub minar kattina delhi sultan qutbuddin aibak gadi dynasty enti....slave dynasty kadha...the first delhi sultan was a slave who became a king
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general ga naku telsi yudham lo vodipoi dorikipoina soldiers became slaves ani history lessons lo telsukunnam but that never lasted generations like in US anedi naa point .. generations of slaves anedi kevalam recent after invasion
of europe ani anukuntunna
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Mockingbird:


Ashoka slavery banning is like uthara ramanayanam anukunta guruji

I dont remember any thing from history lessons .. China lo undi undochu
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Tilak:

aithe point ledu .. some other time..






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Gringo:

btw selma movie oscar ki endukunominate avvale ? because no body likes it and movie is far from reality...India lo Gandhi god father ayinattu...eeda blacks ki martin luther king okkade dikku.....If they are so good, why do they resort to murders, looting, shooting, etc ?


Point is not whether Selma got an oscar or not .. point is how West practiced slavery/oppression till recent times .. (hardly 50 years ago Selma jarigindi) .. why should colored people answer a tough questionnaire by a white official in order to be registered as voters? aa point ni answer cheyyagalava?
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Darth_vader:

Maharaja of Vijayanagaram biography vuntadi chaduvukondi how having slaves and getting them do menial jobs was a way of life. In that book he goes onto write about how various maharajas used to have slaves from other kingdoms fight with each other and bet on the winners.


Ok. Naaku ee vishayam telidu .. whats the name of the book .. would like to read more ..

Tilak:

mana thathalu caste system follow ayyaru kabatti .. manam west ni question cheyyakudada? mari west thathalu slavery follow ayyaru kabatti .. vaallu rest of the world ki sermons ivvakudadu ane kada naa intention ..

aa ooriki ee ooru entha dooramo .. ee ooriki aa ooru anthe dooram avvali ga ..


what do you say about this argument?
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Darth_vader:

Mauryas tribal people aaa?


yeah .. peacocks raise chese tribe of Bihar/Jharkhand area ani chadiva .. correct me if I am wrong .. anduke Sanskrit etymology prakaram .. "Maurya"s ayyaru ani antaru .. no?

Darth_vader:

South lo varna vyavastha ante by default all of those who are dravidians are sudras le


Thank god .. atleast South varaku .. from a long time .. powerful people belong to Sudras ani oppukunnanduku ..

btw .. madhyalo Yadavs ruled from Devagiri for a couple of 100 years .. also Marathas ruled the West and Central India for a loooooong time .. Odisha/Bengal (Eastern India) lo Gajapathis/Kalingas are also sudras I believe .. North East lo aithe mottam tribes de history antha .. Nagas to Mizos ..

dont you think there is truth to it that power in Indian history was always distributed??
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The Indian indenture system was an ongoing system of indenture, a form of debt bondage, by which 3.5 million Indians were transported to various colonies of European powers to provide labour for the (mainly sugar) plantations. It started from the end of slavery in 1833 and continued until 1920.



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annai .. 1900 feudals gurinchi kaadu matladutundi .. mana mocking annai prakaram .. "3000 years hindu/Indian history" ..thats the time frame .. and we should have evidences to support that claim of slavery kada .. to make bonded labor consistent across ancient and medieval history of India and not a later day mishap!


Maharaja of Vijayanagaram biography vuntadi chaduvukondi how having slaves and getting them do menial jobs was a way of life. In that book he goes onto write about how various maharajas used to have slaves from other kingdoms fight with each other and bet on the winners.
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ashoka around 500 bc vayyaa...appudu slavery ban chesadu ante eppati nunchi vunnattu? around 3000 yrs kaadhaa??? voooo oopukuntaa vachi meedha padipothar
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paniki aharapadakam anukochuga


dhanne slavery antaru.....americans koodaa valla slaves ki food, shelter and clothes provide chesevallu....the point is..did they have an option to stop working if they wanted to...
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those ante when? Mauryas were tribal people kada .. yet they were emporers .. mana kakateeyulu kaani .. marathas kaani .. reddy raajulu kaani .. cholas kaani .. andaru mostly varna vyavastha prakaram .. sudras ee kada??


Mauryas tribal people aaa? You and me also belong to a particular tribe does that mean even we are tribal people. South lo varna vyavastha ante by default all of those who are dravidians are sudras le
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emi lekunda ne GoI came up Bonded Labour Abolition Act, 1976?


annai .. 1900 feudals gurinchi kaadu matladutundi .. mana mocking annai prakaram .. "3000 years hindu/Indian history" ..thats the time frame .. and we should have evidences to support that claim of slavery kada .. to make bonded labor consistent across ancient and medieval history of India and not a later day mishap!
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Tilak...indian documented history loo Ashoka was the first to ban slavery....u can read about it.....ante anthaka mundu slavery vundane kadha? also, ashoka time loo ban chesadu ante, valla dynasty poyinaka aa ban implement ayyi vuntundaa? yudham loo gelichina raajyam odipoyina rajyam loo vallani slaves and bonded labourers gaa vaadukovatam anedhi anaadhi gaa vasthunna aachaaram....adhi oppukovataniki antha badha enduku?
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The Indian indenture system was an ongoing system of indenture, a form of debt bondage, by which 3.5 million Indians were transported to various colonies of European powers to provide labour for the (mainly sugar) plantations. It started from the end of slavery in 1833 and continued until 1920.
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How were powerful and powerless decided in those times?


those ante when? Mauryas were tribal people kada .. yet they were emporers .. mana kakateeyulu kaani .. marathas kaani .. reddy raajulu kaani .. cholas kaani .. andaru mostly varna vyavastha prakaram .. sudras ee kada??

and those kings werent powerful?
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fr example guptas period harshavardhan period chines vacharu indiaki they did not mention anything like this ani


difference was world over having slaves in those times was not condoned so these chinese writers didn't mention anything about it specifically.
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hindu dharmam


3000 yrs annavuga manaki way of life kada hindu dharmam ante :d
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bonded labor ki evidences document aina history unda? take Golconda fort, Kondaveedu fort or Srisailam/Tirumala temples etc .. on what basis do we conclude it as bonded labor?


emi lekunda ne GoI came up Bonded Labour Abolition Act, 1976?
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aina comedy kakapothe argument ..

mana thathalu caste system follow ayyaru kabatti .. manam west ni question cheyyakudada? mari west thathalu slavery follow ayyaru kabatti .. vaallu rest of the world ki sermons ivvakudadu ane kada naa intention ..

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paniki aharapadakam anukochuga
100la ellu taralu bond like this did not happened antunna nuvvu child marriages untouchability kalipesavu malli avu vyasam to ready naa?

Edo kota kattadam kosam vadaru once it was done released na I think soldiers alos participated na?

Konni sanghika duracharalu unnayi kadanatledu pethidaniki 3000k years ante
not one record supports it
fr example guptas period harshavardhan period chines vacharu indiaki they did not mention anything like this ani
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where am I defending? All I am saying is feudal vyavasta moolamga ayina penta antha hindu dharmaniki rastunnaru ani"
Nenu caste reference ekkada techanu? It is obvious powerful and powerless e kada issue ?


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bonded labor use chesaaru ani mana history books lone vunte


interesting .. which history book annai?
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bonded labor lekunda market rates ichi kattinchara unkle temples, masjids & forts?


bonded labor ki evidences document aina history unda? take Golconda fort, Kondaveedu fort or Srisailam/Tirumala temples etc .. on what basis do we conclude it as bonded labor?
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hindu dharmam gurinchi first matladindi nuvve eee thread loo@raman.....no one said anything about religion
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ivvala andaroo noru vellabettukuni choose taj mahal kattataniki vaadindi koodaa vallane....i'm sure it's the same with the structures that hindu kings have erected.....


enti Taj kattindi slaves kabatti (for which there are no proofs also) .. Hindu kings kattinchina structures (mostly temples, dams, lakes etc) kuda slaves cheta kattinchara? evaru chepparu?

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meaning


meaning nenu cheppaledu .. if it is slavery, there it cant be glorified .. and this isnt slavery ani naa uddesam ..

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off topic


aithe point ledu .. some other time..
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raman unkl....bonded labour ledhu, slavery ledhu, untouchability ledhu, child marriages levu, sati ledhu, caste discrimination ledhu...anni british vodu vachinake start ayyayi....nuvvu aavesapadaku.....nenu india matrame analedhu, anni chotlaa anthe....prapancham loo vinthalu ani cheppukune pyramids ki koodaa slaves nee vaadaaru...great wall of china koodaa same....egypt loo konni vandala years motham jews andarni slaves gaa vaadukunnaru...
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where am I defending? All I am saying is feudal vyavasta moolamga ayina penta antha hindu dharmaniki rastunnaru ani"
Nenu caste reference ekkada techanu? It is obvious powerful and powerless e kada issue ?
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koolilu etti kattaru they were paid anukovachuga


enti koolilu kattedi? bonded labor use chesaaru ani mana history books lone vunte

Raman:

not one hindu transcript support the theory ayna rajulu order esi kattinchina daniki hindu matam caste system teeskuradam enduku ?
edanna ante 3000 yrs ante manduddi


caste system was used to justify kings decisions. ayina why are you hell bent on defending the caste system?
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bonded labor lekunda market rates ichi kattinchara unkle temples, masjids & forts?


koolilu etti kattaru they were paid anukovachuga
not one hindu transcript support the theory ayna rajulu order esi kattinchina daniki hindu matam caste system teeskuradam enduku ?
edanna ante 3000 yrs ante manduddi
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not even 100 year reservation ki mana country godav chestunnaru.Manadi mudu kadu konte chalu
Bigaayanaaa ... Bigaayanaaa .... Idhi selfish world bigaayanaaa
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Till 18th century there are no proofs of bonded labor


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india loo 3000 years nunchi vundi levayya bonded labour....things changed now, otherwise caste system was also a glorified form of slavery.....


eppudu choosina sodi na matta 3000 years 4000 years ani gallo chusi cheppadamena edanna proof unda ?

Till 18th century there are no proofs of bonded labor
infact East india company transported somany ppl to various places n europe srilanka etc .. Edanna question este chalu hindu dharmam hindu gods hindu upper castes antu okate sodi

I Bet vetti chakiri or what ever it was there only because feudal system not because of hindu dharma ..
Sodi lo harischandra storypatraku proof kosam
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off topic le kaani, mee RSS chief pic meedha mee amulyamaina amul spandana teliya cheyya prardhna

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There is no glory in slavery, whatsoever .. separating families, goddu/vetti chakiri, absolutely no freedom .. indulo glory enti .. mannu .. masanam ..


"caste system is a glorified form of slavery"...ante dhaani meaning slavery loo glory vundhi anaa? LOL
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~chirutha~:

3000 maybe too long?


exact time frame naaku theleedhu le....prapancham loo ekkadaina past loo infrastructure kattataniki, buildings kattataniki vaadindi bonded labourers, slaves etc nee....ivvala andaroo noru vellabettukuni choose taj mahal kattataniki vaadindi koodaa vallane....i'm sure it's the same with the structures that hindu kings have erected.....yes, west loo koodaa nallollani baga abuse chesaru....okka newyork subway system ke low wage nalla labourers ni vela mandini vaadukunnaru, over a long period of time....
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glorified form of slavery.....


There is no glory in slavery, whatsoever .. separating families, goddu/vetti chakiri, absolutely no freedom .. indulo glory enti .. mannu .. masanam ..
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btw selma movie oscar ki endukunominate avvale ? because no body likes it and movie is far from reality...India lo Gandhi god father ayinattu...eeda blacks ki martin luther king okkade dikku.....If they are so good, why do they resort to murders, looting, shooting, etc ?
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india loo 3000 years nunchi vundi levayya bonded labour


3000 maybe too long?
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Havingfun:

Why should one pay for the sins of their ancestors?




because they are enjoying the luxuries created by their ancestors who have exploited atleast 2-3 generations of an entire race
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Tilak:

Really? When will they pay back?



Havingfun:

Why should one pay for the sins of their ancestors?




Tilak, what is needed is they repent and not repeat the mistakes.
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india loo 3000 years nunchi vundi levayya bonded labour....things changed now, otherwise caste system was also a glorified form of slavery.....



http://i.imgur.com/eI7517s.jpg?1
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Havingfun:

Why should one pay for the sins of their ancestors?


Because one inherits the riches and everything else from their ancestors ..
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Tilak:

a antha ghoramaina history meeda neekantu oka opinion, oka answer levante .. mystery laa undi!!




naku opinion leda?

When I read Roots, I was dumbstruck

world is ruled by anglosaxons no matter what so ever, in the larger interests of human future I humbly request you ppl to not join ur hands with US/West or even Israel

naku opinion lekapotam enti... they are sick, they have used every thing in their favor to uproot cultures and now making fun of us...sadly for us in the name of globalization, we are refusing to play upto our potential and begging them

Arabs are much better compared to these idiots..they are just like aggressive school children
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Why should one pay for the sins of their ancestors?

And one other thing, why are you still reading this line that is obviously my signature?
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india loo 3000 years nunchi vundi levayya bonded labour....things changed now, otherwise caste system was also a glorified form of slavery.....
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Lenin:

mana ki enduku ivanni


LOL .. neeku avasaram lekapothe vadiley annai .. dont ask me to follow you!

aina antha ghoramaina history meeda neekantu oka opinion, oka answer levante .. mystery laa undi!!
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Tilak

Godse meeda movie teesaru...adi choosava? mana ki enduku ivanni

Ur Modi is happy to counter China if US president visits India once again...

vadevado vachi China gurinchi mana ki chebtadu, India China trade will give 100 times better results compared to India - USA trade

ask ur pro reform, west licking PM to change first and then start reading roots
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aaa manishaina , desam ayina order edhe..

1. bad
2. cruel
3. intolerant
4. powerful
5. intelligent
6. good
7. saint
PAWAN KALYAN, TDP, PARITALA
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~chirutha~:

Generation gap. Fathers, Grand fathers chesina thappulu chusi change ayi untaru.


Really? When will they pay back? And why give sermons to others? And valla tappulaki (sins actually) retribution eppudu (according to "The Holy Bible") ani adugutunna?
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Tilak:

And today, the same west gives sermons to the world about human rights, equality, free markets and what not!!


Generation gap. Fathers, Grand fathers chesina thappulu chusi change ayi untaru.
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Ninna choosa .. vammo .. enti aa torture of Afro-Americans .. ivaala western civilization ki aa infrastructure undi ante .. isnt it partly a result of the hard labor of black slaves for hundreds of years? On one hand the countries looted capital from "3rd world countries" by colonizing them .. on the other hand, they held millions of slaves and their hard labor for decades at a time!!

And today, the same west gives sermons to the world about human rights, equality, free markets and what not!!

When will the west pay for its sins?

Absolutely must watch movies on the subject - Selma, Lincoln, 12 years a slave!
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