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Mental_sachinodu
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Tilak:

http://vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=3477




vunkl,
article does not make sense to me. point to point chala sarlu discuss chesamu, and i think we did better than the author in explaining our view points. dont know who the author is.
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Mental, it doesn't stop with their damning hindus or other "heathens" to hell.....they turn into actions....direct violence when in minority.......outlawing "heathen" stuff when in majority.......Gandhi or present day Hindus don't realize this - this is my point




Litchenberg,
its not that Gandhi or atleast me do not understand this, but it is not a matter of concern of what they do when they reach the majority. today India is a secular nation and we need to strive to keep it that way, any body acting against it should be labeled as such and should be treated lawfully.

Religion should be seperate from state, and it should be up to religious organisations to protect their own folk interests. Hindus are slipping and are enabling aiding malicious group under the guise of secularism. I fully support RSS or any other hindu organisation carry on their religous agenda, with in legal bounds.

i dont know if i am making sense, not a fresh brain right now.
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Lichtenberg:

curious....waht is it u like about it?



annai let me rephrase..like it ante naa uddesam i have no issues with jesus being elevated to a god like personality..but its christianity and church thats evil..
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Mental_sachinodu:

yes. no doubt there. call spade a spade, all the time.


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direct violence when in minority.......outlawing "heathen" stuff when in majority..


yes .. that has been the strategy always .. the moment we realize it .. we will understand that Gandhi's niceties are for books .. not exactly suitable for real dog eat dog world ..
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Mental, it doesn't stop with their damning hindus or other "heathens" to hell.....they turn into actions....direct violence when in minority.......outlawing "heathen" stuff when in majority.......Gandhi or present day Hindus don't realize this - this is my point
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Ruj:

i like jesus story though



curious....waht is it u like about it?
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Tilak:

etta tattukuntunnav bhayya ..




vunkl, individuals are easy to handle :D

gumpu ga untene, insanity modhalu ayyedhi, btw wife is not with typical christian belief system, otherwise it wont work.


Tilak:

take the bull by its horns .. political correctness valla origedi emi ledu ani naa feeling ..



yes. no doubt there. call spade a spade, all the time.
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Mental_sachinodu:

fight ante explain cheyyi?


take the bull by its horns .. political correctness valla origedi emi ledu ani naa feeling ..

Mental_sachinodu:

vunkl, christians, muslims, jews are the same. personally i dont like any of these ideologies. i think they are mind numbingly retrogressive.



Mental_sachinodu:

Inka na personal situation ki vasthe, living in a interfaith home, its an on going struggle all around.


etta tattukuntunnav bhayya ..
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Ruj:


true..while most of the muslims r being taught this day in day out..

new convert christians also r being fed with this nonsense in india..

that is the reason i dont like both those religions..i like jesus story though




vunkl, christians, muslims, jews are the same. personally i dont like any of these ideologies. i think they are mind numbingly retrogressive.
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Tilak:

really .. terrorism/religious aggression ni ela treat cheyyadaniki choice lu emi unnayi asalu? other than fighting?




vunkl, i believe in secular law, i think terrorists can be handled with existing laws, and so does BJP. Prosecute and perscute the wrong doers using the law.

why do you mean by fight here? we have got good army to defend us, we have got good justice system, we have bad politics in play.

fight ante explain cheyyi?
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Mental_sachinodu:

to them im from a inferior religion, and hell bound. but i dont think any different of them. from their religious perspective that is true, whether we like it or not. we can chose to how we treat them, and i just laugh it off.



true..while most of the muslims r being taught this day in day out..

new convert christians also r being fed with this nonsense in india..

that is the reason i dont like both those religions..i like jesus story though
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Mental_sachinodu:

to them im from a inferior religion, and hell bound. but i dont think any different of them. from their religious perspective that is true, whether we like it or not. we can chose to how we treat them, and i just laugh it off.



true..while most of the muslims r being taught this day in day out..

new convert christians also r being fed with this nonsense in india..

that is the reason i dont like both those religions..i like jesus story though
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Tilak:

really .. terrorism/religious aggression ni ela treat cheyyadaniki choice lu emi unnayi asalu? other than fighting?




Melcowe Byaack thammud...
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Mental_sachinodu:

we can chose to how we treat them


really .. terrorism/religious aggression ni ela treat cheyyadaniki choice lu emi unnayi asalu? other than fighting?
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ala vindu kurrol vallaki nacchina vidhanam lo treat sesthe kassuna egurthunnaru kadha migatha muslim/christian sodarulu...




ofcourse! i am not saying hindu's should not or cannot show negativity towards others.

Inka na personal situation ki vasthe, living in a interfaith home, its an on going struggle all around.
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Lichtenberg:


if it just stops with a debate, who cares....i will also laugh it off when a christian/muslim says i go to hell......it doesn't stop there, does it?




konchem explain seyyi vunkl, quechen adigaavu kani emi adidgavo ardham kaledhu
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Mental_sachinodu:

we can chose to how we treat them,



ala vindu kurrol vallaki nacchina vidhanam lo treat sesthe kassuna egurthunnaru kadha migatha muslim/christian sodarulu...
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Mental_sachinodu:

we can chose to how we treat them, and i just laugh it off.




if it just stops with a debate, who cares....i will also laugh it off when a christian/muslim says i go to hell......it doesn't stop there, does it?
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Maulana Muhammad Ali was another important Muslim leader of the last century. He was the cochairman along with Mahatma Gandhi of the Khilafat Committee. Mahatma Gandhi used to call him his "dear brother" and used to stay at his house when he visited Delhi. As a Muslim, what did Muhammad Ali think of Mahatma Gandhi? Instead of my paraphrasing, let us hear his own words:
""However pure Gandhi's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character. He repeated it later, saying, 'Yes, according to my religion and creed, I hold an adulterous and a fallen Muslim to be better than a Mr. (no longer Mahatma) Gandhi."




yes, and even Gandhi knew about it, and actually its the same with my christian and muslim friends. to them im from a inferior religion, and hell bound. but i dont think any different of them. from their religious perspective that is true, whether we like it or not. we can chose to how we treat them, and i just laugh it off.
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Maulana Muhammad Ali was another important Muslim leader of the last century. He was the cochairman along with Mahatma Gandhi of the Khilafat Committee. Mahatma Gandhi used to call him his "dear brother" and used to stay at his house when he visited Delhi. As a Muslim, what did Muhammad Ali think of Mahatma Gandhi? Instead of my paraphrasing, let us hear his own words:
""However pure Gandhi's character may be, he must appear to me from the point of view of religion inferior to any Mussalman, even though he be without character. He repeated it later, saying, 'Yes, according to my religion and creed, I hold an adulterous and a fallen Muslim to be better than a Mr. (no longer Mahatma) Gandhi."
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Tilak:

Thank you bhayya .. sorry .. call cheyyadam kudaraledu .. tondara lo kaluddam .


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ante nee id peru unna vallu naa phone book lo unnaru nee phone number nee original name to store cheskunna confusion lo chala calls chesa ee madhya nuvvu kanapadakapote :d
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Thikka_sankara:

heyy welcome back.....


Thank you bhayya .. sorry .. call cheyyadam kudaraledu .. tondara lo kaluddam .. :D

Raman:


naa id lanti id inkevaridaina vassinda?
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deenemma ee id confusion kaadu gaani nee number nee peruto store cheskuni naa phone lo kamal tilak ani perlu unte vallaki chala sarlu call chesa
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heyy welcome back.....
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Mental_sachinodu:

im merely pointing out the background for khilafat movement. Ottoman empire was on attack on multiple front, many internal revolutions, and the central forces losing WW1 and so on. May be, if there was no liberation of these countries ottoman empire did not happen the way it did, may be there would have more secular nations in middle east today, ofcourse we never know.

irony is, the turks realized the caliphate wont work and moved away from it, and the Ali brothers of khilafat movement were so disappointed with it, they became anti-turkey


Ali brothers kuda realize aina fact ni .. Gandhi enduku realize kaalekapoyaru in his life time? He never looked back and felt, ok, that was wrong on my part, I should have done things differently ani .. by mid 1920s he could have done the correction that way .. why didnt he do that is big big kochen?

Raman:


anne .. naan inge chennai la iriken .. neengla enge irka? :D

will call you soon .. naa number 979xxxxx81

Mental_sachinodu:

these are on just the muslim league front.


antha alaga kotti paareyyaku .. had big big social impact, not only on India .. but on the entire world ..

Jodhaa:


so far so good .. how r u? :D
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Cocanada:

vuncl

asking.. not kochening

can Gandhi's ideas work if there was no media?




ask christians :D
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Mental_sachinodu:


vuncl

asking.. not kochening

can Gandhi's ideas work if there was no media?
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Tilak:


welcome tilak..how is married life?
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Tilak:

everybody Lala Lajpat Rai, Balgangadhar Tilak, Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya .. almost everybody found holes in MKG's theory ..




these are on just the muslim league front.

but i feel the real critic , and who outwardly was progressive and stayed to indian roots, a giant himself,Tagore had some very critical things to say about the economic options chosen by Gandhi. The exchange was full of respect between the both, but it throws some light on to the thought process between two different great men of the time.

Tagore's views on Non-Cooperation and Charkha would be similar to what most think of them today, but Gandhi explains well in the debate.
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Tilak:




tilakam welcome. how is married life.

Gandhi anagaane vachesthaav ....


Tilak:

Serbia, Chechnya marchipoyavem?



im merely pointing out the background for khilafat movement. Ottoman empire was on attack on multiple front, many internal revolutions, and the central forces losing WW1 and so on. May be, if there was no liberation of these countries ottoman empire did not happen the way it did, may be there would have more secular nations in middle east today, ofcourse we never know.

irony is, the turks realized the caliphate wont work and moved away from it, and the Ali brothers of khilafat movement were so disappointed with it, they became anti-turkey :D
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Tilak:


mng officer enda chata? enge irukkein?
i tried calling you several times
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Tilak:

everybody Lala Lajpat Rai, Balgangadhar Tilak, Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya .. almost everybody found holes in MKG's theory ..




and none of them was wrong before? did Gandhi get carried away a little? yes. but was his approach a strategic blunder? No. tactically it messed things up for us with ML. one needs to remember that you cannot wish away 8-10 cr population just like that. one needs to figure out ways to work with them.
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Tilak:

ets beat them more smartly from here on :D




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kaashaya jendaa voopi, maa andarni train ekkinchi nuv drop avutaava


not dropping .. change the tack .. lets beat them more smartly from here on :D

Bushu:

hem vaaya, nuvu hyd lo untavaa?


ledu bhayya .. Chennai ee still .. and renters' market too .. how r u?

Bushu:

his calculation was simple. hindus muslims fighting, british ni odinche samasye ledhani. and as a majority, hindus had to play big brother. cant fault the theory. he was also right for the most part until Jinnah pulled the two nation rabbit out.


simple? silly? he couldnt get right what even an Annie Besant got right .. everybody Lala Lajpat Rai, Balgangadhar Tilak, Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya .. almost everybody found holes in MKG's theory ..
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hem vaaya, nuvu hyd lo untavaa?
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yeah. his calculation was simple. hindus muslims fighting, british ni odinche samasye ledhani. and as a majority, hindus had to play big brother. cant fault the theory. he was also right for the most part until Jinnah pulled the two nation rabbit out.
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ika no un-necessary ragathaal sindhinchatam in gruhastashrama .. :D




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thk u bhayya .. how is ur girl now? hope she is well ..

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thank u bro .. ika no un-necessary ragathaal sindhinchatam in gruhastashrama .. :D
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tilak bro
welcome back
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welcome back.
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Mental_sachinodu:

Gandhi fight seyyaledhu.. he was against brits involving the internal matters of ottomon empire, to the extent of "liberating" palestine, syria, lebanon iraq and i think eqypt


Serbia, Chechnya marchipoyavem?
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it is difficult to understand Gandhi



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Baa...naakkooodaa bore kodathaandhi....AP lo TRS party extension pedadhaamaa?




:D Prof Kodand ram role yesthaava
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ilaantivi bochedu chesaadu thaatha...when a Muslim killed swami shraddhananda for doing gharwapsi of some rajputs

http://www.mahatma.org.in/mahatma/books/showbook.jsp?id=17&l ink=bg&book=bg0013&lang=en&cat=books



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his silence/support of the moplah conversions was the more shameful thing. khilafat support helped in some ways.




Yes, it is difficult to understand Gandhi's psyche in case of moplah conversions and the subsequent suppression of rebellion or in the case of murder of sharadhananda, Gandhi has maintaned that although he himself is opposed to violence, he is against effemate peace with the oppression of arms, and would contemplate with equanimity the state of war, if such violence was deemed lawful by the perpetrators.

in the case of Moplah, the muslim peasants were bitterly against the world for their misery and were utterly anti-government(read british) and anti-hindu(read landlords). this coming from CWC official statement which denounced the moplah violence. ofcourse the british supressed the rebellion, but hindus bore the brunt of the muslims peasants before british suppressed the rebellion.

Gandhi categorically said, the bravery of moplah peasents was to be commended, although he was against the forced conversions they perpetuated.
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Mental_sachinodu:


Baa...naakkooodaa bore kodathaandhi....AP lo TRS party extension pedadhaamaa?
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Lenin:

If I talk in your line...Communists will remain as the true saviours of mankind in the history...

Always the coin will have both sides...we can opt out for which ever side we want!




vunkl,
i have no side, i just make observations.

coming to the point of communists, i would rather label these patriots as socialists. Gandhi undoubtedly is a socialist, there is no proof to label him otherwise. He is more socialist than most politicians today!


Lenin:

Gandhi always delved for good man image which influenced some of his decisions... Ambedkar several times criticized Gandhi's social thoughts!



This is your opinion i guess, anybody who has read his "my experiments with truth" cannot dare to say that he strived to be the "good man". Gandhi has been labeled many things, and suprisingly the same people call him opposites depending on the topic. idhe thread lo choosthunnam, its not like Gandhi did not know there is dissatisfaction among hindu groups on his principles, if he was striving to be the good man, how can he do that, unless the argument is that he tried to be the good man to the "opposite" side.

Kindha Raman thatha chadastham annaad.... in a way its true, thats how are supremely determined people are.
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inkosari pichakaki ani picha vagudu vaagavante pakkalese vadu ane word ki takkuva use cheyan...

views chebtanna kooda intha Gudda* balupu, noti doola aa?


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Pejasakthi pichikakis lite ...




inkosari pichakaki ani picha vagudu vaagavante pakkalese vadu ane word ki takkuva use cheyan...

views chebtanna kooda intha Gudda* balupu, noti doola aa?



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Mental_sachinodu:




If I talk in your line...Communists will remain as the true saviours of mankind in the history...

Always the coin will have both sides...we can opt out for which ever side we want!

Gandhi always delved for good man image which influenced some of his decisions... Ambedkar several times criticized Gandhi's social thoughts!

I am not saying Gandhi is 100% wrong, Gandhi's intentions were wrong...but rather trying to assert that Gandhi was just reactive in some of his actions instead of considering the purview
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Bushu:

his silence/support of the moplah conversions was the more shameful thing.




ilaantivi bochedu chesaadu thaatha...when a Muslim killed swami shraddhananda for doing gharwapsi of some rajputs

http://www.mahatma.org.in/mahatma/books/showbook.jsp?id=17&l ink=bg&book=bg0013&lang=en&cat=books
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between, turks turned secular by internal revolution and not based on external interference.

we all can see what is happening today where brits meddled. kashmir, gaza and so on. Brits chesina penta evaru cheyaledhu..
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Cocanada:

this is the genesis of Pak idea

should have been killed at the roots

Gandhi kurrod mundu chupu lekanda support chesaad. aayanaki teliyani prapamncham okati undi ani evaru cheppaledaa aa time lo?

exactly ide moment lo Savarkar kurrod jail lo muslims ni chusi latukkuna concept catch chesi reality lo ki ochaaDU




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savarkar kurrod learning veru. gandhi learning veru. mana learning veru.
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selective view of history is cumbersome, please observe the over all picture.

the core principle of freedom of imperialism, whether its Africa, Sub continent else where, has got with protecting the rights of locals, not based on religion, or region. the fight was for the locals to fight their own evils. Freedom from british does not mean, there was no evil with in India. The same goes with Khilafath Movement.

you will get a good picture if you read about russian invasion of ottoman empire, and persecustion of muslims during greek-turkish wars. this was even before World ward 1.


Young Turks revolution was an internal revolution which was used by outside forces to desolve ottoman empire. Young turks revolution, the turkish national movement veetiki against ga Gandhi fight seyyaledhu.. he was against brits involving the internal matters of ottomon empire, to the extent of "liberating" palestine, syria, lebanon iraq and i think eqypt

treaty of sevres gave greeks alot of new power, who already perscuted ottoman muslims.


again, the concept was swaraj , whether its the backward africa, confused india or violent turkish empire.

its easy to get confused and mix our feelings between today's world and the world as it was back then.
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Pejasakthi pichikakis lite ...
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Timing is important. this was in early 1920s. Gandhi was not yet a full blown politician by then. later muslim league ki antha scene iyaledhu, in the 30s. and more muslims favored him over Jinnah for a long time. it was british perfidy of a separate nation for muslims that undid Gandhi's work with muslims. sad.

his silence/support of the moplah conversions was the more shameful thing. khilafat support helped in some ways.
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Ilanti metta panulu chala chesadu le Gandhi....your enemy is my enemy aithe nuvvu nenu friendses anukunna idealist...
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this is the genesis of Pak idea

should have been killed at the roots

Gandhi kurrod mundu chupu lekanda support chesaad. aayanaki teliyani prapamncham okati undi ani evaru cheppaledaa aa time lo?

exactly ide moment lo Savarkar kurrod jail lo muslims ni chusi latukkuna concept catch chesi reality lo ki ochaaDU
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idi mistake kaadu antava GAGU?

supporting it was a big mistake in many ways
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nenu cheppocha
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Gandhi aa moment ki support chesaadu anta.




support chesadane kada cheppindi...

adi tappani evaraina cheppara
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iddari agenda okate, kakapote implementation methods veru anthe
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Khilafat movement ni support seyyadam is equal to supporting ISIS
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actually gandhi chadastam tappa veremi kaadu
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jinnah ki chek pettalekapoyadu




check peeti unte , manaki single cricket team undedhi with fast bowlers like imran , wasim etc.. and bats man from India...

same with Hockey kooda....:-)
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Raman:

jinnah ki chek pettalekapoyadu




oke , Jhinna ki check petti Pak ni separate cheyyakunda , eppudu Pak and Bangla are part of India undi unte , situation ela undedhi.....with 14Crs Muslim population tho minorty licking ekkuvaithe , aa Pak+Bangla population kooda kalisi unte , enka penam meedha nundi poyyi lo paddattu ayyedhi emo mana situation....my 2 cents...

so what ever has happend is good for us ani mundhuku vellatame.....
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The Caliphate is an Islamic system of governance in which the state rules under Islamic law.


gandhi di mistake it is like okallaki against ga undadam kosam antakanna worst moment ni support cheyyadam

for example subhash chandrabose supported germany but at least ayana tactical he got arms and ammunition financial support .. gandhi did not gain any thing here .. jinnah ki chek pettalekapoyadu
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konchemu chadivanu...enthaki evaru dheeni gurinchi wrong ga matladi neeku kopam teppicnharu...vallani emi cheddhamu eppudu?


Gandhi aa moment ki support chesaadu anta...Gandhi ni thitti Godse ni support cheyochu...adhee matter
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antha pedha link ichaanu kadhaa




konchemu chadivanu...enthaki evaru dheeni gurinchi wrong ga matladi neeku kopam teppicnharu...vallani emi cheddhamu eppudu?
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111:

enti gagu ee movement...


antha pedha link ichaanu kadhaa
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enti gagu ee movement...
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Minimum basics theleekundaa enduku matladathaaro theleedhu public...edho okati matladali...daaniki mandi sappatlu kottaali


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khilafat_Movement

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