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     Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8284 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Chris Mannix â@ChrisMannixSI 17m17 minutes ago In a Popovichian move, Mike Budenholzer is resting Jeff Teague, Paul Millsap and DeMarre Carroll tonight against Philadelphia. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8282 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
When you are developing a metric...you need to go through multiple iterations...any statistician would show that.
Serious gaa teesukomani evadu annadu...any stat needs to be taken in perspective. Aa stat use chesi...this is NFL summary ani evadannna annada. Oka small sample size case ni pattukuni thread lo padhi saarlu dilfer...dilfer antu kalavarchindhi evvaru. Poni emanna kottha point icchava inni posts lo.... Meedha padatam gurinchi nuvvu cheptunnava...i never remember starting an argument with you. Klay Thompson, Rondo laantivi kooda nuvvu start chesi self goals kottukuntaavu...LOL. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31681 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
revised list endhku pettadu? becauae 1st list is barbarious kabatti ninna ide seppam nenu rebel bro, maa meeda addav..revised list lo 7th dilfer vunnaru akkada edavalu vuntaru ane aade annakanna inka ela serious tesukontam picha lite eekalu kaadu kaani half sollu article ki ee moyyatam matram comedy lol aina lite tesuko anna inka favre kante better aa dilfer lol,half dumb article | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8281 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
edho kottha eekalu peekam anukune vallaki...ade rasaadu: But this is a somewhat ridiculous list. The top five consists of one great quarterback, Joe Montana, along with two pretty good ones (Eli Manning and Flacco). It also has Trent Dilfer and Jeff Hostetler. Hereâs the problem: This way of thinking about quarterbacks forces them to compete against themselves. Sure, the Patriots have often been favored to win their postseason games. But a lot of that is because Brady is their quarterback. How might the Pats have expected to do with a replacement-level QB instead? After he revised it with comparison against a replacement level QB: Eli Manning remains No. 1 overall, but this time in a photo finish over Joe Montana and Kurt Warner. Flacco still rates highly, in fourth place. Brady moves up to No. 6, right behind John Elway. Brett Favre advances to 19th from 78th. While thereâs still a Dilfer and a Hostetler here and there, itâs a much better list of quarterbacks. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8279 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Lol...article dumb ayithe oka saari cheppi ignore cheyyochu kadha..oka padhi saarlu adhe Dilfer japam enduku...emi kottha reasoning kooda lekunda.  | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31669 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
vuncle opika illio inka, no issues with u but that article is dumb ani naa feeling moving on | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8277 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
There are ways to discuss without saying LOL in every sentence. Poni emanna reasonable interpretation chestunnava ante...you are interpreting it as highest Elo rated team has to win every super bowl. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8276 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
i said exactly what i said below...Wade's present level of play is same as Klay Thompson. Inkaa cheppali ante Thompson has been the better player now...look at his record this season, he got a max contract, his team did not want to trade him for Kevin Love. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31664 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
thompson superstar kaadu antava, adini lebbi ki isthe ring pakka analeda anakunte no case, ani vunte comedy le | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8275 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
edhi prove..thread choopinchu...LOL | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31662 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
nfl article meede discussing , nuvvu silver vs me chesesi naa meeda ki ochav  | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31661 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
tokka le aadu vunte ring osthadi tokka osthadi ani BS cheppav nenu feel ayyana lol alane if am wrong am fine agreeing no shame in it, every one makes bad predictions but some one is wrong u can point it out, i did with this dumb article? akkada edo nuvvu nostradamus annattu cuttings kaiku, move on re aa article ante personal ga feel ai nannu anatam matram picha comedy lol | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8274 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
enti idhi NFL only thed aa? | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8273 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Idhigo typical BS...i said Thompson is at the same level as Wade at present. That's more than vindicated now...look at their record, pay, anything...inka nuvvu argue chestaavu...LOL | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31660 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
idem logic ra babu lol..NBA thed aa idi? topic NBA na? kaadu kada wrong andaru avvtuhar feel ayyedhi emundi thompson next superstar comedy ne lol ala ani nate silver right antama just because he wrote an article? akkada nfl telvadi thed esav malli nba antav lol | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31659 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
no gussa vuncle am making fun of this dumb article, sarang personal ga hurt ayyad anthe  | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8272 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Ante NBA gurichini enduku argue chestaavu...prathi saari oogatam...i am wrong antam...LOL | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31658 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
mari nenu article dumb ante endhku hurt avvtam lol, simple i said dumb article naa meeda padatam kaiku, inka rondo antava adi vere topic kada thed veyyu cheddari mix cheyyaku silly ga, nfl telisthe ee article ni supprot cheyyar simple chesav hence | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 29232 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
why gussa  | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8271 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Nenemi feel avvatam ledhu...vandha saarlu LOL..Dumb anukunta nuvvu oogutunnavu. Rondo topic cheppindhi...nuvvu ee discussion ayina alage chestaavu..LOL geel anukunta alaage chestaavu...seen many times. Naaku NFL teliyadhu nuvvela decide chesaavu? | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31657 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
dilfer clutch qb ante vaadu kooda navvuthad btw lol, hope silver does not write such a DUMB articles | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31656 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
every one makes mistakes, he did with this one, lets move on sensitive avvaku edo nuvvu rasinattu | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31655 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
y ginjukotam lol..comedy chesan kindal chesan ee stupid article ni, NBA disco antava adi vere ikkada ee article gurinchi kada that says how dumb ur thought process is daniki dneiki link enti asale NFL eti telvadi neeku avasarama lol NBA gurinchi thed eyyu disco cheddam btw don't post this kinda of lame ass articles | ||
| Rocketk2 Junior Artist Username: Rocketk2 Post Number: 323 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 198.203.177.177 Rating: N/A |
Heyy!! we got passion too  . Here is the real Clutch http://www.nbawallpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/wallpapers/h ouston_rockets_mascot_clutch_dunk_wallpaper_-_1280x800.jpg The first one to be called clutch in sports is this http://www.photofile.com/SportsProducts/Photos/aaph177.jpg | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 29230 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
monna kam chancellor gaadu emanna aadada game? super asalu banam tammud, edookati manchi idea icheyyi mccarthy ki eedi meeda kooda | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8270 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
He was always a sports analyst..he only started making political predictions from 2008. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8269 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Evariki half-knowledge...he has an entire team of sports analysts. Nuvvu choosinani NFL games aadu choosi undada..LOL. When you produce any stat...it will have outliers based on small sample size. Daani pattukuni ninnati nundi ginjukuntunnavu. Ademanna aa Stat pattukuni Dilfer ki max contract ivvamantunnada. Highest Elo rated team has to win every superbowl antunnavu..akkade ardham avutaandhi nuvvu ela interpret chestunnavo. Last year...NBA lo konni arguments chesavu..example: Rondo = Westbrook, what did Rondo get? A late first round pick...kiki Reasoning unte neat gaa cheyyi...LOL | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31651 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
only politics predictions la, rest antha picha lite | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31650 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
naa meeda endhku padatam evado nerd gaadu game chudakunda rasthe, esp neeku telvadi malli supporting aa lol..anduke half knowledge is dangerous anedhi nate silver ni 2 yrs ga following nenu i like him but ee article rasina stupid ni tittanu esp nuvvu rasinattu feel avvuthaem lol..nobody will take it seriously real world la denni lol | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8268 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Neeku minimum understanding lekunda entha chinchukunna...he has his credibility...ESPN did not ask him to set up his own company for nothing...LOL | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31648 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
did 2nd most clutch qb dilfer moved to no.1 today lol? this article should be given worthless,logicless article of the year.. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8264 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Elo considers home and away & difficulty of opponent...thats the whole point of Elo...if you defeat a very strong opponent your rating jumps up compared to a win over a weak opponent. Isolating QB impact alone is very difficult and they acknowledge that. I did not immediately get how they were estimating the difference between QB and replacement level QB. In NBA, its easier because any player is off the court for something like 25% of the game....but in NFL...quarterback rarely do not play. May be they were using Matt Cassel's 11-5 season as replacement level for Brady. Regarding Dilfer or any QB....you build a statistical model that predicts wins and margins for the over all population. You don't worry if the model does not confirm to your expectation for 1 team or 1 quarterback. If you keep changing the model for each player...that is distrortion and you get bad results. Another thing about Dilfer is if you check his record....most of the time's when his teams brought in alternate QB's and tried them at starters and Dilfer outperformed them. One more good prediction from them is this...when Seattle was 3-3...they had a pretty good chance of missing the play-offs but still they predicted that the record is because of difficult schedule & bad luck...and they were still the 3rd best team in NFL. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-seattle-seahawks-are- now-underdogs-to-make-the-playoffs/ | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12861 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
npa, fair enough man..some how that link rubbed me the wrong way... @saarang bhayya, u used the words edupu,gola 1st thats why I has to retort that way..idi political,movies thread kaadu sports thread kada..we do leg pulling with each other but wont use those type of words man...this is after all a sports thread..dont expect trumpets when u post a link on NFL...expect some brickbats too. ade NBA link tho start cheste no one would have cared...but we NFL followers are a passionate group here..good night. | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5077 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
nenu cheppinattu atleast 8 playoff games ani croteria edithe, dilfer, rypken lantollu leshe vallu list nundi...and that is what shld have done...mari 4-5 playoffs games unnna qbs ni kuda list lo include chese sariki results appear distorted QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5076 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
shoot...i saw it wrong....dilfer kurrod meeda kanessad laga undi...he again put him at 7...chuss.. QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5075 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
basic ga nannaa adjustments anni cheshi last lo list jesad....that does not contain dilfer at all... eli at 1...montana at 2..flacco 4....brady 6 and manning 28.... first list lo itchina dilfer at 2 is what numbers gave him...but he adjusted and gave his version of rankings at the end.. voorike first list chushi final anukokandi.. QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5074 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
Brady has usually had a little bit more talent surrounding him than Peyton Manning has. ////////////////////////////// this is another improper assumption... last 3 yrs lo peyton ki unna weapons i dont think any qb in nfl history had...ever... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5073 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
i said i like analysis based on numbers annai...not this one in particular...sarang also posted another nba shooting percentage article..i agree with that analysis.. the first article shld have been better analysed...as i said, they shld have elimnated low sample size qb's...like dilfer etc...also, it would have more sense to take the opponent strenth of schdule...like how many qbs have better record when they are playing >.500 teams(at the time of playing them, the opposition team shld be more than .500)...you will see that very few qbs will have winning record in this situation... NFL lo if you ask me, you can never accurately do a qb comparision as qb depends a lot on his surrounding players...too many dynamic parametrs to generate a model... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12860 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
brother anyone that supports that 1st link have no sports knowledge and only have bookish knowledge about sports...its sad if u actually support that link.. so u beleive: 1) Ryan Lindley is actually a more clutch palyer than P.Manning. 2)P.Manning record 11 out of 24 is not actually bad 3) Pats win 13 playoffs games with backups like Jimmy G and other backup QB's they have (which is more than P.Manning won)and with brady they won 18. ivi just 5 mins glance cheste dorikina points..i dont want to spend any more time on that link..rasinodu political stats lo pista kavochu..but that analysis is..vaddule. | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5069 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
they have 1 or 2 high shooting percentage *years* QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5068 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
yes brother you are right...if a team shoots light -out in first half, pretty safe bet is under in the second half...even for players, they have 1 or 2 high shooting percentages..but eventually in his career, it will average out and shooting percentage will come back to mean... tons of patterns like this is NBA...Last yr wizards were winning like crazy in 1st qrtr...same with rockets(rockets had very good starting lineup, but not good bench...so they always won first qrtr, but slowdown at end of first qrtr and beggining of second qrtr when thier bench is on field..).. pacers were very good in 3rd qrtr... also, if a good team looses 2 qrtrs in first half, pretty safe to say they will win the 3rd qrtr.. if a team wins all 4 qrtrs on the road, high chance that they will lay an egg in next game.. teams on 3rd game in 4 nights always get tired during second half of the game...they just wont have any legs to run QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Santhi_swaroop Comedian Username: Santhi_swaroop Post Number: 1452 Registered: 10-2014 Posted From: 198.203.181.181 Rating: N/A |
ee Manning fans chusthaa vuntee manning ki inkaa kindhaki laage varukau vunrukunttu leru. Maaning anee vaadu Auto Gear bandi made by 2000 KIA. correct gaa time ki aagipothundhi. aa auto gear bandi ki Clutch emi vuntundhi at max hand break vuntundhi. daani clutch ani feel avuthunnaru. Manning ni manning manana vadileyiandi. Happy gaa edoo oka team konukkoni NFL ni control chesthaa vuntaadu as usual. Fans aa team root chesthaa korchindhi. Iddaru happies. ee Santhi_Swaroop flash back loo Paga_Babai_Paga | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8263 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Hot hands in basketball meedha chaala research untadhi...if a player is hot in a game...will he continue to be hot anedhi topic. For most part...stats say he will regress to the mean. Koddhiga contradictory evidence unna article adhi...but very small improvement in making his next shot. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240527023040710045794090 71015745370 | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 16074 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 68.9.134.125 Rating: N/A |
Dilfer played for good team, antha scene ledu....ee dilfer kosame Mel Kiper and COlts owner kottesukunaru, during the NFL draft ippudu eedu ESPN commentary chuste ardham ayipotundi, eeniki QB gurunchi alphabets kuda telvadu ani | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5064 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
yes...dilfer was a perfect game manager..that yr ravens had top most stud defense...so they want a qb just to hand the ball over and run it and not make mistakes as defense was good enough to win for them... after the super bowl win, ravens let him go.. yes,,,sample size is the culprit it...they shld have taken out players with may be less than 8 games...all these low samples do is distort the data... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8261 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Nate Silver was a sports analyst before becoming a superstar in political predictions. If you like reading about poll predictions...his coverage of the 2008 election is legendary. He got 49 out of 50 states right...including every single senate race. He beat out all the leading pollsters with zero political experience. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/todays-polls-and-final-e lection/ | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8260 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Nenu Dilfer career peddhaga follow avvaledhu...mostly that's a small sample size problem from his 5-1 record. Ideally play-offs lo clutch ante last drive performance in which game is on the line teesukovali...but even players like Manning/Brady will have less than 5 games to make that judegement. So, the sample size will be big problem for statistical predictions. Elo ratings used by Nate Silver's team are explained here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/introducing-nfl-elo-ratin gs/ | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5063 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 98.193.210.138 Rating: N/A |
sarang uncle...ilanti numbers links ettu inka...i like this stuff.. yee article lo i think "clutch" ane word ni diferent meaning teeskunnar...valla lekallo any qb who sleeps in reg. season and wakes up in playoffs in more clutch antunnar... they shld have used a diff. word... also dilfer that high ante somehwere the formula needs adjusting...i would like to see what parameters they used.. QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5060 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
Why qbs are either over praised or over yelled ki aa choker thread lo naa view itchan QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5057 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
Rebel, Bills ki support sese opika or intrest rendu levabba QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 16044 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 68.9.134.125 Rating: N/A |
anduke naa laa team fans undalaa  | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12858 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
poni both hands esko..its a figure of speech..receivers also excellent..man of the match nuvvu evariki istav aa game lo ? mee rexy bill HC kada..so Bills fan now ? | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31601 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
agree vuncle, good punch {self patting} | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5055 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
Malli naa meeda padi kariseyyakandi... I am not saying Brady played bad.. My point is many pats played well in second half.. So I oppose the use of the word 'single- handed'.... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 29438 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
very nice one maaa | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5054 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
Rebel, No.. Brady single handed ga game gelupinchaled.. They were multiple pats players who played well and win pats the game... Credit antha single handed ga qb ayina Brady ki issi why no body else is recognized? QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31598 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
yet ravens paid 100 mil to QB, says ur team is dumb or stupid ani | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 29437 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
QB is over rated...we won ring with trent dilfer | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12857 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
which is true in 3 out of 4 matches this weekend...brady n a-rod singlehandedly pulled the team up while manning choose the other route for a change...anduke qb's ki antha hype...pay teeskuntunnaru ga anubhavinchani...feast or famine. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8254 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
If Chip Kelley is successful in Phily...that will change. | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5053 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
Sony, Inkenellu ila qbs ki saava debkuthar... We will revolt..too much credit or too much debkuthar allani papam when in fact their play depends on so many factors... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12855 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
link ichina ayana highlights ani etti tokkalo points ni highlight cheyakapthe ee sinchukotam undedi kaadu...cheppina tokkalo point ki malli bemmi icon okati | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31597 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
pointeyy | ||
| Sonyvaio Hero Username: Sonyvaio Post Number: 16043 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 68.9.134.125 Rating: N/A |
 QB los dagara migita vaala andarki chebutadu, em cheyalo, aalu cheyatam ledu ante, QB sarigaa cheppaledu ani kuda meaning, elless 6 points esukuni ochesav | ||
| Thelegend Moderator Username: Thelegend Post Number: 29215 Registered: 04-2008 Rating: N/A |
M fans Pedda records Manning meedha abhimanam/bhakti unte Eli Manning ki vaayinchandi  | ||
| Rajin Side Hero Username: Rajin Post Number: 8548 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 63.250.254.2 Rating: N/A |
 Go Hawks Go | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5052 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
For point 6 below, wr is responsible.. Not qb.. Typo QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Blackmamba Moderator Username: Blackmamba Post Number: 29841 Registered: 05-2010 Rating: N/A |
edo oka shit le annai.. edo okati raayakapote aallaki jeeta etta vattadi.. daniki manam battal sinchukotam enduku | ||
| Atta_boy Side Hero Username: Atta_boy Post Number: 5051 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 107.77.68.51 Rating: N/A |
What are the things that have to happen for a qb to complete a pass: 1) identify the defense formation and see who is blitzing -- qb is responsible 2) o line holds up and blocks well - o line is responsible 3) backs or te's who need to block or chip have to do it well - back or TE responsible 4) wr had to run the correct route - wr is responsible 5) qb has to throw it accurately- qb is responsible 6) wr had to catch it and not fumble it - qb is responsible... So, okka pass play complete avvataniki intha mandi execute cheyyali correct ga... But for an incompletion we blame only qb? For completion we only give qb credit ? Fair or not? Again, when we are deciding who is clutch.. How can you only consider qb when there are these many dependencies for just 1 pass completion... QB's are not machines...they are players too...they have weak points as well..They dont deserve excessive praise or brick bats | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12854 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
That's BS..which further proves that the link is utter BS | ||
| Bmw007 Moderator Username: Bmw007 Post Number: 12322 Registered: 10-2008 Rating: N/A |
For me in the sports i have been watcing in last 15-20 years Basket ball 1. MJ ( haven't seen any athlete in any sport so passionate and clutch as MJ ) 2. Kobe Football 1. Eli Manning 2. TB Baseball 1. David Ortiz 2. Jeter ( I hate to say he but be comes through ) 01/04/2014-161.2 lbs 01/04/2012-187 lbs | ||
| Blackmamba Moderator Username: Blackmamba Post Number: 29840 Registered: 05-2010 Rating: N/A |
i think what he said is pats would ve won 12-13 games even without brady as qb | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8253 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Discount ekkada chesadu. He is saying...because Brady has an 18-8 record instead of a 13-13 with replacement level QB...he is one the QB greats ane. Inka nenu done...ee level of interpretation tho no point discussing. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31596 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
idi miss ayya..so REAL wins ni discount chesi idemi projections oo, this is what happens when u don't know what sports are ani and how i wasted 5 mins of my time ani | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12853 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
from that link: Brady has usually had a little bit more talent surrounding him than Peyton Manning has. (Matt Cassel, who rates as somewhere between average and replacement-level, led New England to an 11-5 record when Brady was hurt in 2008.) Bill Belichick would probably have snuck them into the playoffs a few times. But theyd also have been playing good opponents. Our method projects them to a 12-14 or 13-13 postseason record rather than Bradys 18-8. ante Brady kooda playoff lo egg pettalani pedict chesinda elo(tokkalo) | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31594 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
disco turn aindhi, forget abt predictions but this article is a joke bottomline, new ga NFL following naukonta nuvvu ade problem la vundi..am done inka | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8252 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Ademi 99%...100% ani ivvadu...the game needs to be played. Ippudu 37% chance for the favorites ante its a very low confidence prediction. But, over a large enough sample of games...ELO will beat "expert" predictions. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31592 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
nuvvena enti author daniki? antha ga bet ani react ayyav esp stupid article ki anyways lite lelo..predictions every yr pedthanu aa time ki note chesuko ELO ni complete ga trash analedu ee article ni trash antunna, alane predictions ee thopu correct ga cheyyalu nfl vistory la mark my words | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12852 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
eLo(Tokkalo) predicted 69% win yesterday with colts..48% win even with backup QB in denver..wow super tokkaLO prediction last year 48% win in SB..another tokkaLO prediction | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8251 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Sare...oka bet ettukundamu...try to beat ELO projections in next play-offs. We have 11 games kadha...nuvveni predict chestaavo choodu...ELO eni predict chestado choodu. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31591 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
barbarious ochi dilfer 2nd..ee nerds tho ide problem game ni ila over ga dissect chestharu | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12851 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
According lo Elo(alias Tokkalo) ranking in the 1st link Ryan Lindley who played 1 career playoff game and lost is above P.Manning in clutch rankings..lol | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31590 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
odds/chances are fine but projections based on regular season record vs post season is a joke, i don't why ur supporting this stupid logicless article go and tell anyone who followed that dilfer is 2nd best clutch qb he will laugh or even might hit someone..last yr pats-hawks ni picked kurrod pats did not make SB that says projections/odds cannot be taken seriously ani | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8250 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Neeku ila idharmayindha? Ippudu Hawks highest Elo rated by a significant margin..he gives them a 37% chance to win super bowl. Ante if there are 100 such seasons...37 times the highest rated team will win the superbowl ani.  | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31589 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
this says how stupid that logic is, playoffs are diff. animal ade beauty of nfl hope u don't agree with stupid articles like this one, sometimes naked eye will tell diff. story...projections vesi cheppataniki idemanna finance aa lol | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31588 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
just because some idiot wrote it does not make it right also, there is a reason playoffs are so unpredictable in NFL, adi logic prakaram adi elo ratings teams anni sb win avvali there is a reason 9-7 team won sb betaing 2 favorites, inka dilfer 2nd best oh buoy what a joke article | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8249 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Malli adhe cheptaavu...he is projecting play-offs wins based on regular season wins. Doesn't Brady have an exceptional regular season record? Difference between actual and projection is not big for Brady ani. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31587 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
8 post season wins highest is playoffs akkada not regular season lol extra wins eti vundedhi vadi bonda every one starts with 0-0 in playoffs worst article dilfer 2nd best lol nuvvu moyyaku vuncle | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8247 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
I am not basing on one article. There have been a series of articles on this topic in sports. | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12850 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
random ani start chesi,brahmi icons eskuntu pilla P edupu gola start chesindi nuvvu...db lo clutchu botchu member award needu iddam le | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8246 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Adu cheppedhi...Brady also performs like that in regular season. Only play-offs lo extra wins kotte vaadu Eli ani. | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31586 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
barbarious n stupid article vuncle don't back it up if possible | ||
| Rajin Side Hero Username: Rajin Post Number: 8540 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 63.250.254.2 Rating: N/A |
Rebel vannai mari enduku ila lite teesukoo, nuvvu tatha fan kudaa kaade? Go Hawks Go | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8245 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Enti neeku nakku matter comparison aa LOL..inkevarithoanna chepinchu | ||
| Tombrady Legend Username: Tombrady Post Number: 31585 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 216.163.216.56 Rating: N/A |
nate silver kurrod based on underdogs decide chesada lol BS anali alane eli has been clutch no doubt alane brady ki 8 post season drives vunnai no body has that skewed up link n stats ELO ratings based dilfer 2nd best clutch QB aa what a joke link | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8244 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Ledhu...enduku ala gola chestunnado naaku teliyadhu. | ||
| Rajin Side Hero Username: Rajin Post Number: 8538 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 63.250.254.2 Rating: N/A |
mee eddari patha kakshal vunnaya?  Go Hawks Go | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12849 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
matter unda ? leka dakota links, brhami M.mopi links eskuntu batikestava | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8243 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
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| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12848 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
expected aa..nuvemanna nityananda baba va expect cheytaniki lol... | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12847 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
i picked bronocs to win SB this yr..we all know how that ended...rest nee edpudu on clutchu bochu antu..inko padi websites ki velli dakota links pattukuni ra | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8242 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Idhi nee understanding..i am saying he won 11 out of 24...13 or 14 is the expected number of wins. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8241 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Nuvvu adi meedha edavali ante continue...Regular season lo ade opponents...Play-offs lo ade opponents same untaara | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12846 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
nee random links kante better ee le....u r skewing facts by saying manning won 11 out of 13 or 14...which is BS... | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8240 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Random ga ee regular season gola enti..the over under line is set based on the quality of opponents that they will be playing. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8239 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
With the game on the line Trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of regular-season and playoff games since 1996-97, with a minimum of 30 shots. From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information. Most clutch in NBA per the stats in this article: 1) Carmelo Anthony 2) Chris Paul The players whose team have really bad play-off records. | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12844 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
we are not gamblers and we are not in vegas to talk about over-under line.. he didnt won 50% of his games.. regular season lo 50% win avakapothe telusu kada u will miss playofs ( couple of exceptions) | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8238 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24200/the-truth-a bout-kobe-bryant-in-crunch-time The truth about Kobe Bryant in crunch time. (From January 2011) Ask pundits. Ask general managers. Ask players. Ask almost anybody. Who would you like to have take the last shot with the game on the line? Kobe Bryant wins by a country mile. Every time. (In a general-manager poll this season, he earned 79 percent of the vote, his ninth consecutive blowout.) There is not really any other serious candidate. Ask me, though (as Ryen Russillo did last week and Mike Trudell the other day), and I'll tell you I don't know who's the best, but with all due respect to Bryant's amazing abilities scoring the ball, there's zero chance he's the king of crunch time. n 1997, he famously air-balled two shots that could have beat the Jazz; instead, the Jazz won the series. In 1999, he whiffed on a 3-pointer at the buzzer that would have tied Game 2 against the Spurs. In Game 4 against the Kings in 2002, he missed a 2-pointer that would have tied the game (before the ball was tipped out to Robert Horry for the winning 3). In Game 7 of that same series, Bryant missed a tip that would have won the game in regulation. In Game 3 against the Timberwolves in 2003, he missed two key shots in the last seconds of overtime, and the Lakers lost. I'll spare you the entire list, but it's long. In the final 24 seconds of playoff games, Bryant has racked up almost as many air balls as makes, making just below 30 percent of game-tying or go-ahead shots. He hasn't hit such a shot in a playoff game, in fact, since 2008, including key misses in the closing moments against the Jazz and Magic in 2009, and the Thunder and Suns last spring. He made one of his four shots in the fourth quarter of Game 7 of last year's Finals. No matter how you define crunch time -- from the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime to the last 24 seconds -- and no matter how you define production -- field goal percentage, offensive efficiency, David Berri's Wins Produced, the results tell the same story: Bryant is about as likely to hit the big shot as any player. ESPN Stats & Information's Alok Pattani dug through 15 years of NBA data (see table below) -- Bryant's entire career, regular season and playoffs -- and found that Bryant has attempted 115 shots in the final 24 seconds of a game in which the Lakers were tied or trailed by two or fewer points. He connected on 36, and missed 79 times. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8237 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
When the over-under line is 13 or 14...11 is not a disaster. Its slightly below average. | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 12843 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.15 Rating: N/A |
It is indeed a disaster record.. 11 out of 24 is nothing to be proud of..24 games that's 1 and half regular season games...if he had the same record in regular season he will miss playoffs | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8236 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
This is the paper written by my Professor. The best NFL Kickers...are they Lucky or Clutch: Don Morisson and Manohar Kalwani https://books.google.com/books?id=t_YuXkffVYYC&pg=PA45&lpg=P A45&dq=donald+morrison+clutch+kickers&source=bl&ots=ANCdBPux CD&sig=E2opynPoCDX13qSNrwtAMFZrrLc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wQ60VOC7A5b roASjsYDAAw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=donald%20morrison%20 clutch%20kickers&f=false Interestingly we find that the 1989-1991 NFL field goal data consistent with the hypothesis of no skill difference across NFL kickers. It appears, then that in searching for clutch field goal kickers, the NFL teams may be seeking a species that does not exist. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8235 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
By this measure, the most clutch postseason QB of all time is Manning â Eli Manning. His New York Giants have often been underdogs in the postseason and projected to a record of 4-7 or perhaps 5-6 in his 11 games. Instead, Eli Manningâs teams have gone 8-3. According to the simulations, thereâs just a 1 percent chance of achieving such a strong record based on chance alone. This does not, incidentally, serve as evidence that Eli Manning or any other quarterback has some extra gear that kicks in during the postseason. Eliâs been awesome during the postseason, but with 180 QBs in the sample youâd expect to find a few fluky cases based on chance alone. This is also not to say that clutch quarterbacking doesnât exist. As my colleague Benjamin Morris has repeatedly documented, some quarterbacks â including Peyton Manning â consistently manage the game better in clutch situations, such as during a fourth-quarter comeback drive. Indeed, clutchness is so intrinsic to quarterbacking that itâs hard to distinguish a clutch QB from a good QB. But that clutchness ought to show up in a QBâs regular-season stats and his teamâs regular-season win-loss record and Elo rating. Itâs not clear that some quarterbacks are clutch in the regular season but unclutch in the postseason. | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8233 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Below, Iâve listed the records for the top and bottom quarterbacks, along with those who have been active in this yearâs playoffs or who have been a principal quarterback at least 10 times in the postseason. Iâve also listed each quarterbackâs projected record based on Elo. Finally, Iâve listed the result of a set of 25,000 simulations of each quarterbackâs postseason career where QBs were randomly assigned wins and losses based on the probabilities established by Elo. I counted up how often the simulated quarterback bettered the actual quarterbackâs win total, giving half-credit to cases where they finished with the same record. Probability of achieving their current play-off record by chance...the farther away away the actual record is from expected record...this probability will be lower. Eli Manning: 1% Joe Flacco: 3.8% Russel Wilson: 12.5% Big Ben: 23% Brady: 31% A-Rod: 35% Peyton: 82% Romo: 84% | ||
| Saarang Side Hero Username: Saarang Post Number: 8232 Registered: 06-2012 Posted From: 206.29.176.51 Rating: N/A |
Nate Silver wrote a neat article today on the topic of "Clutch" QBs in NFL. One of my Professors wrote a paper on Clutch Kickers in NFL (20 years back)...will scan and post or find a link online. Will try to post a few more articles on this if I have time. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-most-clutch-postseas on-quarterback-of-all-time-is-eli-manning/ Highlights on Peyton Manning: How you evaluate the postseason records of Manning, Brady and Flacco depends on how you define clutch performance. Is it performance relative to expectations that matters? Or is it performance in an absolute sense? Manningâs teams have been favored, according to our Elo ratings, in 17 of his 24 postseason games. Itâs often been a narrow advantage; viewed probabilistically, youâd set the over line at 13 or 14 wins. Manning has won 11. Itâs not a totally disastrous record â Manning has won a Super Bowl, after all, and led his team to two others â but itâs on the lower end for great quarterbacks relative to the lofty expectations they establish. |
