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coimbatore deggara dhyanalingam ani eeyana meditation center undhi, been ther... konchem commercial ga anipinchindhi
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As a serious meditation practitioner here, I found he's not upto the mark in spirituality. I checked his Q&A topics and utterly disappointed with his responses.
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Cocanada:

material cost involved



On the flipside When material costs involved are publicity, posters, flyers and a bunch of other stuff, people need to think what they are paying for :-) monna coimbatore vellinappudu chusanu eeyana posters on every bus almost and every street corner annattu and i have to think does what they do require that much expense on publicity? :-)

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Swarna_andhra:

AK emi cheyakundaa nee edoo chestharu ani support chesaaru. Kaani Modi (at least Gujju ni devlope chesadu) case loo will be



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Saint:


for what u r donating? instead u can donate the smae money to save some other good cause!


what good cause??? you mean like these??
http://www.tampabay.com/americas-worst-charities/

lol.... there'd be bad apples in whatever you pick..... so, excise caution and spend your money time and efforts in that cause/direction that you are drawn towards....
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Chantodu:




Listened to a couple of Maheshwari's speeches this afternoon- he's a very engaging speaker .. Content kottadi kadu vinna 2 speeches lo but still worth checking out more anipinchindi .. Any particular speeches nachite link/title ivvandi ..:-)

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experiment and see for yourself
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for what u r donating? instead u can donate the smae money to save some other good cause!



This is not a bad cause either - they are learning something and paying fees .. There are all kinds - general ga Janalu free ga vachinadaniki value ivvaru -kaste fee iste jagratta ga nerchukuntaru :-)

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Cocanada:



and how much do the gurus charge? 200$ ? 300$ ? which is peanuts




for what u r donating? instead u can donate the smae money to save some other good cause!


recent ga oka baba anta JK guruji anta....

http://jkguruji.wordpress.com/

chala comedy anipinchindi ayana chestalu choosthe...!

http://jkguruji.wordpress.com/about/

aa ara chethilo lite choosara...adi divine lite anta...! ki ki ki!
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Swarna_andhra:



AK emi cheyakundaa nee edoo chestharu ani support chesaaru. Kaani Modi (at least Gujju ni devlope chesadu) case loo will be. andhukee ee questioning. Mee lanti occupied mind ki maa matalu elaa chorabadathayi andi ani cheppa dalachukunaa :D




nee lanti bhajan lal's ki adi ardham kadule lite teesukoo!
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Swarna_andhra:



:-) AK had his chance and blew it, modi has his now, lets see what he does with it ...anyway this thread is not about politics :-)


Liferocks:



Apologies , did not see your posts in the other thread till now - thanks for the detailed response :-)

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you should pay money for atleast the material costs involved. There are many full time teachers and they need to pay rents, buy food and travel. If everyting is free, they cannot expand and then they cannot help more than few hundred people.

people are not generous enough to donate money

and how much do the gurus charge? 200$ ? 300$ ? which is peanuts
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Anand_n:

if Modi delivers results i will be the first to support him






AK emi cheyakundaa nee edoo chestharu ani support chesaaru. Kaani Modi (at least Gujju ni devlope chesadu) case loo will be. andhukee ee questioning. Mee lanti occupied mind ki maa matalu elaa chorabadathayi andi ani cheppa dalachukunaa :D
Sadaru vyakthi Swarna_andhra Appatlo Sarvabhouma_rao
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Chantodu:

sandeep maheshwari



peru kuda Vinaledu andi - will give it a shot if you are recommending them:-)


Swarna_andhra:

disown




Lol- disown cheyyataniki mundu own cheyyali :-) ee leaders evaru ma chuttalu kadu , na vallu ani own cheyyataniki ... edo desanni uddharistaru ani hope meda support chestam , trial period lo results don't match that faith , support withdrawn .. it works viceversa too .. if Modi delivers results i will be the first to support him .diehard.fans, idol worship of leaders chesevallaki ardham avvatam kashtam lendi :-)

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Enduku vinali baa?
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Liferocks:

Kalikalam, I don't want this thread to be wasted in our arguments. If you think all systems are equal and same, well let it be. I have already stated my views. Or is this more of a personal attack or agenda to prove or disprove each other? If so I don't want to add any fuel to the fire




Sorry. Just ignore my posts..
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To anyone interested, here is a good link on instructions to practice Zen.

http://zmm.mro.org/teachings/meditation-instructions/

It is best to meet a qualified teacher and take instructions from him. But any instructions involve focusing on breath as a basic concentration practice for a few years followed by a wisdom practice.

Kalikalam, I don't want this thread to be wasted in our arguments. If you think all systems are equal and same, well let it be. I have already stated my views. Or is this more of a personal attack or agenda to prove or disprove each other? If so I don't want to add any fuel to the fire :-)
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Komaranna:



Good to know annai... Meeru ee madhyaloo sallabaddaru... Where are those punches... Ravino ayithee DB nundi gayab ayyadu
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Liferocks:

A very direct way to judge is by directly sitting in meditation with the teacher or group and see how it feels. I have found that my meditation is much more deeper when I sit at a Zen center compared to when I sit at home.




I agree with you.Again, that is your personal experience and need not necessarily be for others. I had the book of Nisargadatta Maharaj you mentioned(Telugu translation by Neelamraju Laxmi prasad)and I really liked it, but when recommend the same book to others , some of them said it is just a piece of junk.Same case with OSHO too.Few of them liked and few of them did not. I still like UG krishna morrthy, but none in my circle liked him and they actually hate him. He declared "This self realaization concept is just fraud.Theere is nothing to be relaized.The demand for enlightenment was the only thing standing in the way of enlightenment itself, if enlightenment existed at all"
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Liferocks:

I am highly skeptical of any systems that involve paying money for the teachings,




what is wrong for 'paying money' for the education? Even if you go any so called 'Free camps', they got to arrange many things.where they will get money from?some one got to donate money for others. When one can afford, it is better to pay money rather than getting paid by some one else.

Liferocks:

no solid system of practices, don't have a good lineage of teachers, dont have good exemplary senior students.




You have many conditions for a GURU to be accepted by you. Then,When you were in the time of budha, you should have missed Budha too.Because he did not fullfill your conditons so as Ramana Mahsrshi etc..
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Ninna vinaa.. Pedda ga ekkaledu
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chiru tamud db lo ne vunna... betst time pass for me... komaranna id tho posting sestnna
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Swarna_andhra:



ayanaa anti hindu intellectual aaa?


anandji is definitely not antihindu... she just is critical about few thinks and asks few questions....
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Chantodu:

anand selli sandeep maheshwari spiritual speeches vinnara..youtube lo vunnai what are your views on it




ayanaa anti hindu intellectual aaa? ayithee support. okavelaa aynaa meeda edinaa allegations vasthe, simple gaa nenu vuppudu ayanna follow avvadamtam ledhu ani seppochhu. Just like AK case. j/k

alaa ventanee disown chestattu ayihte DB loo aa range vayasalu endhuku. :D
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Chanti aannai.....DB ki yenduku raavatam ledu ee madhyaloo?
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anand selli sandeep maheshwari spiritual speeches vinnara..youtube lo vunnai what are your views on it
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Sasibabu:


somehow... I never got interested in listening to his speeches... couple of friends quoted him earlier but I never got interested.... my preferences are 1) Swamy Velkudi krishnan 2) Sri Chaganti garu.... veellidarivi naaku baaga nachutaay.... Chaganti gari gurinchi kotha gaa cheppakarledu.... Velkudi Krishnan is tamil speaker... but aayanavi english speeches untaai.... amazing tone... okka saaari sync aithe voice ki aapadam kastam.... video poorthi avvalsinde....
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Liferocks:

Liferocks




Regarding your post 233.Many contradictions in your statements.One time you are telling that we can not judge a teacher, on the other hand you are recommending who is a good spiritual teacher, which system/mediation method is good.Again, As you liked some kind of system, you may not like the other systems.That's why the famous 'Vignaana Bharaiva Tantra' got 101 meditation tehcniques. Masters very well know that one meditation technique will not suit universally to everybody. If you are feeling less effective about one particular meditation technique, that may not be a right tool for you(only for you).I don't think it is right to criticise other techniques. So, how many of your group got enlightened so far if that is such a powerful way of meditation??
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Kalikaalam:

How will you decide that one guru is enlightned and other one is not.How can you judge and decide towards one particular guru/system? How can you say Jiddu krishnamoorthy or any other masters were 'one step behind'.




Hi kalikalam,

As students we cannot really say if a teacher is fully enlightened or not. It is not a good idea to judge a teacher by his behavior either. For example the famous Nisargadatta was a chain smoker but is widely accepted as one of the great non-dual teachers of all time. His book "I am That" (available freely online) is a spiritual classic. Many great teachers were involved in scandals in the latter part of their lives but their teachings nevertheless have been right on spot. E.g. Chogyam Trungpa, Mahesh Yogi (Transcendental Meditation), Rajneesh Osho, Mauezemi Roshi etc...

I am highly skeptical of most Indian systems (no offense meant, I am an Indian/Hindu too). I am highly skeptical of any systems that involve paying money for the teachings, too much guru dependence (guru awakens you through his power) or guru worship, no solid system of practices, don't have a good lineage of teachers, dont have good exemplary senior students. I find mainstream Budhhist (there are many but primarily Zen/Mahayana & Vipassana/Theravada are good) systems to be more authentic. They have a clearly published lineage of teachers (from Buddha till your own teacher) and the transmission is authentic. A very direct way to judge is by directly sitting in meditation with the teacher or group and see how it feels. I have found that my meditation is much more deeper when I sit at a Zen center compared to when I sit at home.

I have posted my recommendations on the best systems or teachers based on what I have personally seen in the below thread earlier.

http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/messages/115/265213.ht ml?1408249441

Ofcourse, just to listen, any teacher we like is fine. I like Adyashanti and find his speeches effective. But none of those teachers who don't have a good system of practices that you can follow are going to help. Just listening to a teacher or thinking good thoughts or discussing about spirituality endlessly is not enough to bring about the change.
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Liferocks:

Liferocks




How will you decide that one guru is enlightned and other one is not.How can you judge and decide towards one particular guru/system? How can you say Jiddu krishnamoorthy or any other masters were 'one step behind'.
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He talks impressively but I am not sure how genuine he is. Just because someone is impressive or charismatic doesn't necessarily mean he is a good teacher. There are many non-dual teachers who get stuck at some point on the journey (not fully awakened) and can still talk very impressively. They say you are already enlightened and there is nothing else to be done. No meditation or no spiritual practices are needed. Eckhart Tolle for example is very popular, charismatic and falls into this category. Jiddu Krishnamurti, UG Krishnamurti, Adyashanti, Gangaji. Search for any of them and you will find their talks very impressive.

But these speeches take you nowhere. It feels good to listen to them but if you want to make any progress you need to practice. All of the self-inquiry or Jnana Yoga crap comes only after you wake up to a certain level. Before that it is all some mental bullshit.

I understand Jaggi Vasudev has some practices and methods but I don't understand why you need to pay to learn them. That makes me feel suspicious about his motivation. I would vote for SRF Kriya Yoga or aypsite.com free practices over them any day.
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yes. interesting man. met him once


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Swarna_andhra:

edinaa links vuntee ivvandi.


search jaggi vasudev in youtube
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Swarna_andhra:

edinaa links vuntee ivvandi.




youtube lo oka channel untadhi. subscribe aithey chalu.
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Sasibabu:




Ayina book "Mystic Musings" or some such name , oka sishyudu pampiste chadivanu - asalu resonate avvaledu - so aa books kuda evariko icchesa:-) But this same sishyudu jeevitam ayina org ki ankitam chesaru - pillalu pudite akkada chadivistanu type lo dedication - so frequency match avute maybe it works that strongly :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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edinaa links vuntee ivvandi.
Sadaru vyakthi Swarna_andhra Appatlo Sarvabhouma_rao
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yes. interesting man. met him once. AP ninchi antey, watch out for the non-dharmic forces and their money push annadu. :D
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Yevarnna vunnaraa eeyana sishyulu mana db lo .... Naakaithe picha picha gaa ekkesaayi aayana speeches and pravachanaalu ... Naa burra ki ippativaraku aayana cheppe vatillo okkati kooda wrong anipinchaledhu ... Completely mesmerizing

Intellectuals discussion ettandi veelunte ... Entha vinna thanivi theeratledhu
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