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Liferocks
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Also about the tangible differences, due to practices; from my personal experience

I have found that I became in general more accepting of life. Especially with family and closed ones. It is more of a gradual realization that there are no real problems in life; I have been just cooking them up all the while. Being in harmony with life in general.

This is what I have learnt/read about the differences post-awakening:

Enlightenment is simply waking up from the dream. End of delusions. We are all enlightened even now, we simply don't realize it. Most people mistake enlightenment for perfection. Read the following link which clarifies that aspect. http://aypsite.com/260.html ;specifically these lines "There is a difference between enlightenment (in the light) and perfection (always right). The first is real. The second is an illusion. Is there a relationship between enlightenment and rightness of vision? Absolutely." But following the right action is still within your discretion and there are many gurus who have erred here.

The reason many people who do practices don't see results is this. There are essentially two kinds of practices. Samatha/Concentration Practices. Wisdom/Insight Practices. The Concentration practices essentially involve focusing on an object and bringing the mind back to an object when we get lost in thought. Most people mistake these for real meditation. These practices don't change your essential nature. They calm you down, make you feel temporarily good and are used to improve your concentration before you take up the insight practices. The insight practices are the ones which really start changing you and give you true insights into how reality actually is. Going directly to insight practices without adequate concentration may not be very helpful. At the same time mistaking concentration practices for real meditation and getting stuck there is a very common mistake and the reason why many people don't see tangible changes
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Anand, I am the most unenlightened and unawakened person you'll ever found on the forums. Sorry not claiming any awakening here. Neither claiming any sanity either, lol. But yes, I have been crazy about this awakening stuff for few years and lacking proper advice wasted my time going in circles. Hence those pieces of advice to anyone interested.

Over the years I have become quite skeptical of the authenticity of any Hindu/Indian teachings. I have found the Buddhist teachings (both Zen and Vipassana) to be of more practical value.

Yes Kriya Yoga is a good system. The aypsite teachings I mentioned below are essentially those. The only problem with these is that it is a lot of doing which only makes the seeker inside you more stronger. It is this very seeking that has to end. Awakening is simply an act of grace in the end. Something which is given. It is not like bodybuilding or some other sport where you continously build something to get a reward in the end. All those mudras, bandhas, kriyas, pranayamas are essentially for invoking the kundalini/chi energy and I'm not saying they don't help from that aspect. They do. But it is very important to make the student realize enlightenment is not something we get due to all that we do and become qualified but it is more of something which is given. Which is what Zen and buddhist practices do more effectively compared to other systems. I personally spent quite sometime doing all of the advanced kriya yoga practices and I have seen Zen too. Though Kriya Yoga or aypsite practices are still on my recommendation list, I prefer Zen. One good thing about Zen teachers or lineage is that you are not qualified to teach unless you are fully awakened. Thus the teaching is passed down through an unbroken lineage of teachers from starting from Buddha and you are ensured the teacher is qualified enough to teach.
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what difference do you see before and after 'awakening' ? Serious question on the tangible differences in how you look at life, how you behave ,what you see as your purpose or even how you react to adverse situations/comments:-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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I personally recommend Zen




There is no sure shot path for awakening. If yes all zen masters would have done it. There are number ways, zen is one.

Kriya Yoga if done properly for 3 years supposed to achieve faster results
but ultimately without love, passion, sharing,and duing our duty properly and purity of mind all this is waste
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yOU HAVE NOT READ MY first post of this thread.

Human Soul is covered with 3 layers or Kosas. soul is covered by casual body, on top of it astral body on top of it physical body in our world

as soon as human leave this body, he / she enters another universe or realm called astral with astral body. this world is many thousad times bigger than our own physical universe

as per the Sri Yukteswar Ji, total 3 layers are made with 37 aspects, out of which only 15 are used for physical body, 19 are used for astral body

please read my org post if you are interested. This is what spiritual master told out of thier exp
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Reddit:

advanced science course tesukunte meeru kuda brush up sesukuntara



LOL - I wish !!! Valla open house ki velli ARtificial Intelligence presentations/demos anni chusaka i told his professor who heads the Turings program that it made me want to do comp sci all over again because there is so much exciting stuff happening in the field now :-) he very sincerely told me 'you should come and join' {clipart{10}

But philosophy interest and this is a short book :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Mastering the Core teachings of Buddha: (A very practical handbook on how to awaken, highly recommended. Click the PDF version in the below link)
http://integrateddaniel.info/book/

Indian style practical instructions/lessons without any nonsense:
http://aypsite.com/MainDirectory.html

I personally recommend Zen (A style of Buddhist teaching). Find a Zen teacher near you and follow their instructions. You really need a teacher if you are serious about awakening. If you don't have a teacher where you live, then follow the below online teachers:
http://www.treeleaf.org/

Interview with an enlightened teacher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbbCkdrAdeI
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Last_avataar:

No Bro, i used to come as ipad and mvssr75 in my past incornations :0


gurtupattaleka poya
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Anand_n:


advanced science course tesukunte meeru kuda brush up sesukuntara concepts
We're so quick to point out our own flaws in others.
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ee astral world anagaa nemi?
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Mental_sachinodu:



Have you read Zhuangzi ? kiddo is taking philosophies of Asia next sem , and this is one of his texts - the blurb was interesting so started reading - its Daoist philosophy - pretty intuitive . and an easy read :-) have to finish it this week :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Sena sesani


Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Mental bro

Wrong way of understanding
Katthi tho podiste as cut deep prakaram
Kutlu veyaka tappadu in that process u feel pain
But that pain helps you to recover

Here my intention to say same.
Konni kathi potlu ki kutlu vesina
Machha kalakaalam undi potundi :-)
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Driverramudu:

Any thing wrong in my post?
I don't feel any as such. Do you?



wrong, right pakkana ettu ... evado ninnu kathi tho podisthe, nenu gun tho shoot chesukunta.. bullet noppiki, kathi potu noppi thelvadhi ani ante.. nuvu eti antaav dhani gurinsi?
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Driverramudu:





I am struck by the lightning of love and burnt beyond repair - Florentino Ariza

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Driverramudu:

Like wise to come out of the pain in heart
Make more pain in body slowly for that moment
Body pain takes priority than heart pain.
Of course it will not cure heat pain but
It's helping me to control of myself realization
Leading the life the way I want




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Mental bro

Any thing wrong in my post?
I don't feel any as such. Do you?
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Driverramudu:

Like wise to come out of the pain in heart
Make more pain in body slowly for that moment
Body pain takes priority than heart pain.
Of course it will not cure heat pain but
It's helping me to control of myself realization
Leading the life the way I want




vunkl, ee self destructive ideas isthunnaav endhi?
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Jp_rocks:

sasibob thammi, medidation ela cheyali process ettu...just basampeeta esi kurchotamena? leka thanenaaaane beat emanna lopala japinchukovala?


you can seat in whatver position you can feel comfortable ...nenu oka kurchee meedha kurchuni kallu aarajaapukuni chesthaa meditation and will close the eyes and will follow this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPzjZt2EGU
Don't bet the bet .. If you bet the bet he will regret .. He is not a bet .. He is banana split
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sasibob thammi, medidation ela cheyali process ettu...just basampeeta esi kurchotamena? leka thanenaaaane beat emanna lopala japinchukovala?
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Driverramudu:

The moment we dependency starts then the Real hell we see in earth itself




Thats is always true. Prati manishiki konni limitations untayi
Since all of you are doing your best which is important, rest leave to GOD and keep praying.

My mother also felt so dejected with this dependency which she never had and trying to flight back strong. my sibilings also are facing issues to keep thier legas in 2 boats and trying thier best.

Rest all depends on the blessings of GOD and our sincere prayers
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Last avatar bro

I just followed basic saying to make a line small without altering how
Simple create another big line besides it. That it
Solved.

Like wise to come out of the pain in heart
Make more pain in body slowly for that moment
Body pain takes priority than heart pain.
Of course it will not cure heat pain but
It's helping me to control of myself realization
Leading the life the way I want :-)
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Sesani:

guide chese guru kaavali ee quest theeralante ...ekkada start cheyaalo thelavatlaa....someone suggest me




keep the same question and passion in heart , when you meditate when you do it for 41 days continuously the question you pasted in the cosmos comes back with some answer.

I am devotee of Shirdi Sia, and like Satya Sai. But i got instantly connected to Mahavatar Baagaji or Sri Guru from my Sister. I see all the 3 in the same and meditate him.
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Yep

Good to know that your siblings are supporting in your absense

My siblings are doing their best but being
middle class family struggles they are finding
difficult to find time to spend more

Her in laws are there but they are busy too.
At the end of day irrespective of gender
One should live as long as they have strength to do
all alone by themself

The moment we dependency starts then the
Real hell we see in earth itself

This is just my personnel exp do far
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Driverramudu:




Well Said. Dhyanam anedi chla rakaluga cheyyochu. One way is meditation.
Meeru chesedi inokaka type of dhyanam.

Work chestu... mana ista namam taluchukuntu undatam inkoka dhyanam
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Your Paryers will keep her safe. Make sure you pray with full heart and keep talking to her in a happy moods reminding the happy days.

My expeirience is we make concersations heavy , they too feel the same. Donot talk to her when you are dull.

Meditate and feel her love in your heart and send her the same love from your heart.

I feel i could not do 100% job one should do in my case, as i left part of it to my sister who stay there. All My Sisters have done wonderful duty towards my parents in this critical juncture to bring us out of crisis. These times will let us know the value of a loving family and togetherness.
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Sasibob

I got control by doing physical exercises and diet.

I know I Knnot control thoughts
So I decided to do physical activity
That really helped and still helping me a lot
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Sasibabu:



Yes Bro. Very Good to know that you have started and feeling the positive waves. Do it continuously for 41 days , any new work you start

Keep meditating and most important reap good amounts of un conditional love in your heart first towards the ones you love then to others

I am not qualified to tell you what is next, the cosmic enegery should guide you to next
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Sasibabu:

My experience : meditation is doing wonders for me .... anxiety egiripoyindhi..... able to manage stress very well .... chaalaa sepu meditation cheyaalanipisthondhi.... the quest for spirituality also increased in me .... guide chese guru kaavali ee quest theeralante ...ekkada start cheyaalo thelavatlaa....someone suggest me





Happy for you bhayyaa.. I remember ur thread complaining abt anxiety n chest pain I think...
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My experience : meditation is doing wonders for me .... anxiety egiripoyindhi..... able to manage stress very well .... chaalaa sepu meditation cheyaalanipisthondhi.... the quest for spirituality also increased in me .... guide chese guru kaavali ee quest theeralante ...ekkada start cheyaalo thelavatlaa....someone suggest me
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bhayya....meere anukunta kadhaa oka time lo meditation gurinchi thread esindhi ...like you are experiencing unusual waves or something like that.
Now a days i started doing meditation.... kind of basic meditation for 20 mins....guided meditation by Ravishankar in youtube....chaalaa peaceful gaa vundhi ..... next level of meditation enti.... can we start the next level practising alone .... or what....konchem guide cheyandi
Don't bet the bet .. If you bet the bet he will regret .. He is not a bet .. He is banana split
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I feel so much

When she asked whether I might have
to visit India this year
I said no u don't have :-(
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

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Sorry to hear that incident and glad to know
You did best to your parents

Me to worried hope wish nothing should happen to her
All I can do from here is pray god and send Money
for her to recovery sooner and healthy
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Driverramudu:

Itz been years studied Garuda Puranam




Sorry Bro, i advise not to get into those complexities. Just knowing what is the right way to lead the life is simple enought. Rest in in the almighty hands
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Chala Heart touching ga Raasaru.

Monna ma mothers ki accidental ga 30% burns ayyayi, Saree atukuni
She fought and survived the fire with detrmination, but since then was in a painful but dterministic path to recovery. She is old but active

I had to rush and spend some time alon with my sisters
After lot of time i felt like i found real myself spedingtime closely with my parents and sisters understanding thier feelings, sharing thoughts.

First time i felt my dad and momm as my children. Especially when i used to bresh her and help her sleep, feed her etc. I always remember my mom as active energitic and brave lady with lioness heart, lying helplessly on the bed trying to fight back.

Life is all about sharing and caring within our capacity
I am very happy i could connect them more closely this time after lot of years of remote living an ocassional visit.
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Itz been years studied Garuda Puranam

Let me get some time to read again.
It's awesome knowing the consequences of our deeds
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Anyway glad to know

Since few days my thoughts were smilar lines
Like the way in latest movie Manam.

I felt and visualizing human life and after life etc
I exp very much when I see my dad dead body.

Since few days my mum falling sick so again
Thoughts are going different especially when I was talking to her
Over the phone day before yesterday. It's amazing
She felt like all alone and I am convincing her like
We always kids for you wherever you are watever we do
We can never be greater than you
As she did so much hard work gone thru
Very tough times in those days and even now.

After seeing all then I realized old age is very
difficult especially when u r with many people around.

So many conflicts generation changes views changes etc.
So better be alone or stay away from people is best for peace.

So in our epics says kings or yogis go to forests to get peaceful life
Leaving their kids to lead their own life let then
Get their own experiences and knowledge etc

Over all human life us very much puzzle
How we born with predefined Kharma
And the relations that we get at times and
Where it leads to etc
Being alone major part of my life I think more and more
Its torturing my brain cells like hell when I start
Thinking or visualizing :-)
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

Ayya baaboi bullet baby Dhaga... Dhaga...
Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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No Bro, i used to come as ipad and mvssr75 in my past incornations :0
I just read this lecture from a book by Swami Yukteswar to Paramahamsa Yogananda.

I could logically connect this version with what our puranas have been telling us
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LastAvatar bro

By any chance or my guess is u r
VivekDhara old time DB member?
Life is Race. I am in. Driving is my PASSION.

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Champuthondi chocolate baby Sega...Sega..
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Maa colleague okathanu Radhanath Swami gurinchi yeppudu cheptaadu..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEOKLiMZrp4
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According to Spriritual Masters

1. Our Spirit is covered of 3 kosaas or Layers (physical, astral, casual bodies)

2. Unless these 3 layers are removed no one can relaize the utimate reality of GOD. Chakras are relasted to astral and casual bodes

3. GOD used 37 aspects to create astral body out of which 19 are used for physical body.

3. The intention of creation is to make all souls experince all the yogas and make them complete before realizing GOD

4. Physical Universe made of all what we see, starts, planets etc, whic can be perceived by Physical body

5. Astral universe is much bigger than physical (like a big cucumber versus small peanut). Physical is attached to the bottom of Atral

6. Astral is with many layers and lokas

7. Astral body does have sense of pleasure, pain to experince the results of karma in both physical and astral worlds

8. When physical perishers, immediately normal soul makes astral body reach special pockets of astral world (after spending in physical realm for some time). Depends on thier deeds need to experince the results in astral world pockets like yama loka, deva loka etc.

9. People who does horrible deeds in physical world, thier souls with thrie astral and causal bodies will be qurentines in horrible hell for longer times

10. Some elevated sould continue thier jounrey of living with thier astral bodies in the higher planes of astral world

11. Normal sould after experincing results of thier deeds come back to physical in any form based on thier karms

12. astral body resembels the last physical human form , where one can meet all his family, friends, enemies , other people

13. Highly evlved souls are sent to physical, astral worlds to educate and evevate souls to casual level. These sould can travel thru these worlds like zip and form thier bodies.

14. the soul also experince death like aspect in astral world. Once it attains sufficient spiritual stadard, it is ready to leave astral world and move to casual

15. From Casual , once it attains complete fulfillment, attains moksha, the union with almight, but maintains its indeitity.

16. all the people who are into desires will keep on making cyclical trips between physical and astral world

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