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Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16091 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.80.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 08:17 am: |
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Kalikaalam:
Consistent ga anipinche 'religions are junk' ane belief kuda filter e kada - may be without that filter you will find more things to accept - just a thought  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Kalikaalam
Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 10961 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 173.49.93.171
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 07:21 am: |
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Anand_n:Only when you move to the opposite position .
Nenu oka stand thisukoni daanilo konnaallu vunna tharvaatha, "idi utterly waste. Indulo yemi ledu" anipisthundi.Consistant gaa aanipinchedi maatram"Religions are just junk" ani.. |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16089 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 107.77.80.15
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, August 15, 2014 - 07:06 am: |
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Cocanada:For ex, I was dead against accepting hindi as a national language. But now, I understand the importance of it. All it took was someone explaining me that it is nothing but sanskrit. i was convinced.
Idedo Advaita applied to languages laaga undi if Hindi is nothing but sanskrit, which language is anything but sanskrit ? anni sanskrit, anta sanskrit antara  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16086 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 05:45 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:so persistence might make our brain to imprint patterns on its neurons and eventually lets us consciously(which can be termed as ego).
What TS is getting at - our values/biases(the patterns imprinted )put blocks to accepting some views- its a visceral reaction not so much a cognitive, conscious one - partly because of the dire consequences attached to that view/action... When you are persistently exposed to that view/action without the negative consequences that you expected/feared, over a period of time , the brain gets reprogrammed to not have that visceral reaction that blocks the cognitive process - and you start analysing and move closer to acceptance This is why I believe constant exposure to violence in movies/video games is bad for kids - cos it takes that mental block away  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Lax
Side Hero Username: Lax
Post Number: 4997 Registered: 11-2013 Posted From: 164.144.252.26
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 04:09 pm: |
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Bumper:nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna
chala mandi ide type anukunta..nenu kuda ide type  Karimnagar Pawan Fan |
   
Kishorebharath
Junior Artist Username: Kishorebharath
Post Number: 182 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 117.200.182.89
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 03:59 pm: |
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Still living on how about you,Meeru ela vunnaru ?? Nannu vunnaru ani pilavakandi I am just Kid  "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -oscar wilde |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16085 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 03:57 pm: |
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Kishorebharath:@Anand_N garu Vanakkam madam
Namaste , namaste - ela unnaru ?  Mental_sachinodu:it cant be SHE
LOL I have not seen his videos but you have convinced me that I should  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Kishorebharath
Junior Artist Username: Kishorebharath
Post Number: 180 Registered: 03-2007 Posted From: 117.200.182.89
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 03:34 pm: |
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Ee discussions emi ardham kakapoina eppatikina arthem avutai kada ani chaduvuta @Anand_N garu Vanakkam madam  "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." -oscar wilde |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 15273 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 02:22 pm: |
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Jp_rocks:bro have you read the book "the social animal"?
book reading lo saana weak , start chesina ye book complete cheyaledhu nenu.. and idhi eppudu vinaledhu kooda
Anand_n:If it makes God feel better and if She exists she will help me out.
George Carlin has succesfully convinced, if there is a god, it is HE, it cant be SHE. . the reason he gives is no SHE can mess(ofcourse his word is different) up the world the so much  |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16084 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:38 pm: |
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Nisarga:when/how can you be convinced with the opposite view?
Only when you move to the opposite position ...people are always right in their mind .. we just learn and change our minds as we learn and process new stuff.. WE learn new stuff, we filter that based on our biases and build a new position ...till we introspect carefully we are not going to even recognize that wehave a bias, let alone accept that the decision is not objective The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Jp_rocks
Moderator Username: Jp_rocks
Post Number: 16792 Registered: 06-2009
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:38 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:this goes back to learning, and not just conscious learning. our mind keeps perceiving things, and there are many things we learn involuntarily. some key responses to events are inherent to each species. so persistence might make our brain to imprint patterns on its neurons and eventually lets us consciously(which can be termed as ego).
bro have you read the book "the social animal"? |
   
Anand_n
Hero Username: Anand_n
Post Number: 16083 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:19 pm: |
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Nisarga:Believers: When can you accept that there is no God. Non Believers: When can you accept that there is God Agnostics: When can you take a position.
Howdy Among those three I think I am an Agnostic that has taken a position that there is a God Reason I say that - I am absolutely comfortable with my son claiming to be an atheist , my husband being the god fearing theist- and can argue on behalf of either of them without being terrified that God will punish me And I pray to that God cos it makes me feel better If it makes God feel better and if She exists she will help me out.. if not, because I am feeling better my brain works better, and I will find solutions - either way , placebo or real it works for me  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim |
   
Thikka_sankara
Hero Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 13002 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.223.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:18 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
sare annai... going to sleep... question vesi unchu... repu morning reply isthaa if I have a answer.... b/w verey thread lo oka post ki just smiley ettesi gayab ayyav.... what was your intent?  keka link: fikileaks,
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Thikka_sankara
Hero Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 13001 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.223.211
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:14 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu: Interesting point you have made here, but what level of persistence, and can something that caused this new learning, be undone by a conscious effort?
konchem elaborate ga explain cheyyava... ardham kaaledu keka link: fikileaks,
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Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 15269 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:11 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:im too significant
im too insignificant* |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 15268 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 01:10 pm: |
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Thikka_sankara:Two ways to change opinion....one drastic shattering incident which blow all our prejudicies out of roof.... Or..... a constant exposure to the opposite belief in a not so negative way....constant ga manaki against belief aina if we are getting exposed, over a period of time we develop a certain level of acceptability/understanding....
this goes back to learning, and not just conscious learning. our mind keeps perceiving things, and there are many things we learn involuntarily. some key responses to events are inherent to each species. so persistence might make our brain to imprint patterns on its neurons and eventually lets us consciously(which can be termed as ego). Interesting point you have made here, but what level of persistence, and can something that caused this new learning, be undone by a conscious effort? Cocanada:god is a granter of wishes ani meere define cheskuni aa definition fail ayite god LeDu ani conclude chesara?
trust me, i never wish for anything. I think the last time i wished something was when i saw a small kid begging in railway station. to me even if god exists, im too significant for me to believe that my wishes are anything of his concern  |
   
Kalikaalam
Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 10951 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2014 - 05:25 am: |
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Cocanada:that it is nothing but sanskrit.
appudu sanskrit ye nerchukovachu gaa.Yi Hindi yenduku?? |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 47335 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:59 am: |
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god is a granter of wishes ani meere define cheskuni aa definition fail ayite god LeDu ani conclude chesara? lol |
   
Masularex
Side Hero Username: Masularex
Post Number: 4440 Registered: 05-2010 Posted From: 122.169.180.0
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:58 am: |
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how could you possibly be right when I'am never wrong ? enough said ! |
   
Raman
Legend Username: Raman
Post Number: 30652 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 59.92.51.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:53 am: |
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Bumper:I used to test gods from my childhood like casino lo ee gsame lo money raka pote god ledu aniii,,, ila chala test lu petta god gurunchii ani tests lo god fail ayaduu.. so nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna
same inch yeah nenu kuda chala tests etta tattukoleka god jump ayyadu |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 47332 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:45 am: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:There was once a little kid that prayed for a bicycle. God never gave him one. So he stole one, and then prayed for Forgiveness!!!
super. evaru rasaro kani |
   
Cocanada
Legend Username: Cocanada
Post Number: 47331 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:44 am: |
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For objective problems, your intellect has to be convinced. example, you are trying to compare cars and decide which one is the best. The salesman should present features of the car and try to prove his product is superior. subjective things lo convince avvadam antu undadu. by nature you will be inclined towards a view. If some one objectively proves otherwise, we will change our opinion For ex, I was dead against accepting hindi as a national language. But now, I understand the importance of it. All it took was someone explaining me that it is nothing but sanskrit. i was convinced. |
   
Thikka_sankara
Hero Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 12958 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 27.63.39.140
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:44 am: |
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Nisarga: sounds plausible.
since creation of such drastic incidents is beyond our control...persistence is the key....and thats what anyone in the business of conversions do.....persistently approach...mm There is altogether a different way....but that needs, as people in this thread say, giving up of ego. And that way is a debate....but it needs real experts who are open to the possibility of either of the outcomes....m keka link: fikileaks,
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Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 539 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.51
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:34 am: |
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Thikka_sankara:Two ways to change opinion....one drastic shattering incident which blow all our prejudicies out of roof.... Or..... a constant exposure to the opposite belief in a not so negative way....constant ga manaki against belief aina if we are getting exposed, over a period of time we develop a certain level of acceptability/understanding....
sounds plausible. |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 538 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 135.245.168.51
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 06:32 am: |
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Mental_sachinodu:acceptance is not related to rationality. it is based on ego, and does not require a particular rational reasoning to change a stand. I for some reason have a feeling that it is part of genetic makeup! dont get me wrong, im not trying to shy away from the responsibility of the stands we take, but i believe some personality traits play an important role in the way decisions are made. and Acceptance is one such decision. Mathematical ga cheppali ante, its an expression with multitude of variables, including genes. I am agnostic, and the reason i believe im an agnostic is for there to be a concrete proof one way or the other. the lack of proof in one direction does not necessarily sway me in the other direction. If i were to take a guess today, there is no god, but that is just a guess for me today, even though i overwhelmingly feel that is true. think of it this way, if osama were an athiest he would still be the same extreme person, albiet with a different idelogy. the acceptance for him of a believer would be as outrageous as the acceptance of a kafir today.
perfect. quite resonates with me  |
   
Thikka_sankara
Hero Username: Thikka_sankara
Post Number: 12957 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 117.97.185.184
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2014 - 12:21 am: |
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Two ways to change opinion....one drastic shattering incident which blow all our prejudicies out of roof.... Or..... a constant exposure to the opposite belief in a not so negative way....constant ga manaki against belief aina if we are getting exposed, over a period of time we develop a certain level of acceptability/understanding.... keka link: fikileaks,
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Saint
Legend Username: Saint
Post Number: 37964 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 12.22.163.132
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 03:33 pm: |
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Jambalahaart_raja:Prayers and Hopes are useless.
no u r wrong..! it will generate +ve vibes in & around u! over night change avvavu..but over the time change avuddi! you will get lot of +ve energy and you wull be more focused!! in fact less disturbances (initial ga baaga vundochu! but over th time..nuvvu dedicated ga and teekashanam ga chesthe use vuntadi) |
   
Jambalahaart_raja
Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja
Post Number: 4947 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 03:26 pm: |
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Mental_sachinodu:
10 times sadivaa.. vokka mukka ardham kaaledu. To me, God does exist. Chinnappudu nammaanu.. ippudu nammuthaanu. Ippudu vonly difference is I don't believe that anything will change. Prayers and Hopes are useless. Agnosticism to me is acknowledging that there is so much out of our hands, and there is only so much that we can do, and it is definitely better to be aloof within our means. There was once a little kid that prayed for a bicycle. God never gave him one. So he stole one, and then prayed for Forgiveness!!! |
   
Donvusko
Junior Artist Username: Donvusko
Post Number: 107 Registered: 03-2014 Posted From: 198.240.130.75
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 03:19 pm: |
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Bumper:
Just testing kaadu, aaru mangalavaralu, yedu sukravaralu upavasam cheyyali, chesava ? then only casino money |
   
Rowdy
Legend Username: Rowdy
Post Number: 31448 Registered: 01-2010 Posted From: 12.2.115.11
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 03:12 pm: |
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Nisarga: When can you accept that there is no God.
when some one can calculate value of infinity  |
   
Mental_sachinodu
Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu
Post Number: 15258 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 02:10 pm: |
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acceptance is not related to rationality. it is based on ego, and does not require a particular rational reasoning to change a stand. I for some reason have a feeling that it is part of genetic makeup! dont get me wrong, im not trying to shy away from the responsibility of the stands we take, but i believe some personality traits play an important role in the way decisions are made. and Acceptance is one such decision. Mathematical ga cheppali ante, its an expression with multitude of variables, including genes. I am agnostic, and the reason i believe im an agnostic is for there to be a concrete proof one way or the other. the lack of proof in one direction does not necessarily sway me in the other direction. If i were to take a guess today, there is no god, but that is just a guess for me today, even though i overwhelmingly feel that is true. think of it this way, if osama were an athiest he would still be the same extreme person, albiet with a different idelogy. the acceptance for him of a believer would be as outrageous as the acceptance of a kafir today. |
   
Kalikaalam
Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 10944 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:57 pm: |
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Nisarga:When/How are you convinced
vere valla argument ki yeppudu convince avvaledu. |
   
Kalikaalam
Hero Username: Kalikaalam
Post Number: 10943 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:53 pm: |
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yeavro con Bumper:I used to test gods from my childhood like casino lo ee gsame lo money raka pote god ledu aniii,,, ila chala test lu petta god gurunchii ani tests lo god fail ayaduu.. so nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna
for your honest openion. naaku yeppudu yi 'belief swing' vuntundi. Yi roju vunna belief/openion malli vundadu. |
   
Sweetveerudu
Junior Artist Username: Sweetveerudu
Post Number: 508 Registered: 05-2014 Posted From: 50.56.228.100
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:53 pm: |
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Bumper:I used to test gods from my childhood like casino lo ee gsame lo money raka pote god ledu aniii,,, ila chala test lu petta god gurunchii ani tests lo god fail ayaduu.. so nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna
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Rajin
Side Hero Username: Rajin
Post Number: 2497 Registered: 05-2012 Posted From: 63.250.254.2
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:40 pm: |
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Bumper:I used to test gods from my childhood like casino lo ee gsame lo money raka pote god ledu aniii,,, ila chala test lu petta god gurunchii ani tests lo god fail ayaduu.. so nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna
most of them are like you, kaani bayata padaru anthee... |
   
Bumper
Junior Artist Username: Bumper
Post Number: 248 Registered: 07-2014 Posted From: 204.80.61.133
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:37 pm: |
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I used to test gods from my childhood like casino lo ee gsame lo money raka pote god ledu aniii,,, ila chala test lu petta god gurunchii ani tests lo god fail ayaduu.. so nenu devudni namanu ani chepukoni bathukuta but ekkado unademo endukonchina godava ani oka dandam padesta epudannna |
   
Thokkalohdi
Side Hero Username: Thokkalohdi
Post Number: 3418 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.130.117.120
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:37 pm: |
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Nisarga:What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for you to accept the opposite view?
no ego. Ranbir Kapoor is god of acting |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 537 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 116.75.112.28
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:35 pm: |
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May not be able to participate in it much today. interested guys can discuss. |
   
Nisarga
Junior Artist Username: Nisarga
Post Number: 536 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 116.75.112.28
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 - 12:33 pm: |
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A small thought experiment... when/how can you be convinced with the opposite view? What are the necessary and sufficient conditions for you to accept the opposite view? Believers: When can you accept that there is no God. Non Believers: When can you accept that there is God Agnostics: When can you take a position. Can be extended to any other topic... may be politics. Can our biases be uncovered!!? |