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     Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12927 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.234.29 Rating: N/A |
this is even before the thought occurs kadaa... this is only part of the solution, once the acknowledgement happens atleast at individual level kadaa not just action... I think even the evil thoughts go punished/addressed... for example... the most powerful and recurring thoughts impact the next birth??? this is tough... may be next to impossible... but I'm talking more from a person simmering with such thoughts..... not sporadic ones.... if only german society had a means of identifying what evil one person turn out into.... they had almost 30 odd yrs to figure out but there was no mechanism to figure it out!! keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Bushu Side Hero Username: Bushu Post Number: 8984 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 18.111.107.243 Rating: N/A |
tech solution: minority report old school solutions: confessions box in xtianity, cold water dip in hinduism, 72 virgins in islam | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16063 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
My statement was assuming Thikka-sankara has a proposal on how to identify  The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16062 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Way too many cons Ideologically : it negates free will and human ability to process thoughts and impulses ... Feasibility wise : There will not be a single human who did not ever have a violent thought - how well will you be able to sift thru the population hitting every single person at close enough time intervals to mitigate all risk ? Even God cant handle the data overload and performance constraints and so decided to limit retribution to karma(action)  Ok have to go Have fun theorisingThe foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Jatayu Side Hero Username: Jatayu Post Number: 3412 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 110.225.1.65 Rating: N/A |
 etta septaru whether some one has evil thoughts??Hard core Mahesh Bob fan | ||
| Jatayu Side Hero Username: Jatayu Post Number: 3411 Registered: 04-2012 Posted From: 110.225.1.65 Rating: N/A |
evadiki aadu feel avvali kani.. idi bayata vallaki etta telustadi.. neneti alochistunnano seppa.. evadiki oodu guilt peel ayyi mansi vollu aithe problem ee illiyo.. peel avvakunda thought ni action rupam lo pedithe.. it will be a crime & it can be punished... naku nenu confess chesukunte kani naa thoughts ni evvadu endorse seyyaledu.. and cant be punished.. even psychiatrist kuda 100% cheppaledu about others thoughts.. Hard core Mahesh Bob fan | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12923 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
may be yes atleast need to consider the business case (pro/cons)? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16061 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Profiling antaru anukunta deenine Can't support The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Raman Legend Username: Raman Post Number: 30607 Registered: 01-2009 Posted From: 59.92.58.26 Rating: N/A |
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| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12922 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
may not be punishing... but is it wrong in trying to identify potential mass murderers? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23730 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 61.12.4.90 Rating: N/A |
vitler gaadu real frankenstein .. vaadi amoghamaina telivi ni vinashanam vaipu use chesi gabbu lepadu prapanchanni edhava .. if only he channeled those energies positively!! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16060 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
All evil actions are preceded by an evil thought but all evil thoughts are not succeeded by evil action... Humans have the ability to think and choose what to act on, and stem their own thoughts - punishing everyone who has evil thoughts does not make sense The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12921 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
hmm.... reminds me of the so many researches german scientists used to do on human brains during wwII !!! keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12920 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
if it is a risk... shouldn't we be having a mitigating plan for them??
my thoughts do impact me, dont they? And once translated into action, they impact others and the scale only depends on the force of these thoughts within? there is a famous quote attributed to stalin: one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic and he apparently ended up killing 35 million people! pretty much for a statistics!!! keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23729 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 61.12.4.90 Rating: N/A |
the life of the evil thought expired in the mind scenario lo kaadu le .. kaani .. when the thought results in anything tangible/materialist without any harm to anyone .. even then kadi-se-kadi saza set kiya .. may be psychiatrist la ni rangam lo ki dimpi investigate/judge chestaremo future lo ..  Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16059 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
You can't punish those - cos punishment is for causing harm or damage - if there is no impact to anyone, it is not a crime You can think of it as a risk or threat of impending crime - but it is not a crime yet .. The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12919 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
it is action.... action of spreading hatred... that can be established and punished... but what about the thoughts of hatred that simmer inside without leading (yet) to conclusive actions? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12918 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
hmm... how was that accomplished... without the actual act of crime, and just pure guilty thoughts ni elaa establish chesaaru/chestaaru? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23727 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 61.12.4.90 Rating: N/A |
its a big big failure in the anglo-saxon jurisprudence model .. idi evaro pedda accomplished lawyer who after practicing law for decades raayaga chadiva .. long time ago .. but .. in a departure from that model .. post tommidi-padakondu .. tellalism related cases lo evil thoughts ki kuda punishments set chesaru via patriot act .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12917 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
exactly.... and the onus lies on each individual on their own? when the repurcussions can have wider impacts? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16058 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
Example - hatred is a thought , spreading hatred is also only propagating that thought... there is no direct action yet ... but how many actions does it color at a subtle level ? The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12916 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
and isnt that the level of failure of the existing systems that they cant establish the guilt of thoughts??? can the precursor to the actions (criminal) go unpunished/unaddressed just because they cant be established??? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 16057 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 167.24.104.150 Rating: N/A |
A random thought, No - if you are able to kill that line of thought and conclusively it will normally not recur.. But if you let it come again and again , you have actually given acceptance to that thought in your mind at some level ..that needs to be watched The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12915 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
are you sure??? thoughts do have the impact on our actions.... the decisions that we take where we dont apply our thinking process, how do we take them?? our thoughts define our morality, what is acceptable and what is not.... keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Hillsboro Junior Artist Username: Hillsboro Post Number: 28 Registered: 06-2014 Posted From: 134.134.137.75 Rating: N/A |
"Social conformity" are the 2 key words which keeps a lot of thoughts in check. Everything else is Ayan Rand; | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12914 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
reading a bit about gengis khan, stalin, hitler and such others with the emphasis on their killings.... and wondering why aren't we (as in everyone of us) not like that.... what is stopping us and why it dint stop them? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23726 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 61.12.4.90 Rating: N/A |
cant be established (if you are talking in legal parlance), unless some one else knows the person just too well and can re-dig/investigate every of his/her every action/thought .. but guilt of thoughts establish cheyyadam is next to impossible .. if this disco is about legal parlance .. i am in a wrong thed .. i thought this has something to do with philosophy .. Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Jambalahaart_raja Side Hero Username: Jambalahaart_raja Post Number: 4940 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 171.161.160.10 Rating: N/A |
so long as you know what you thinking, and can distinguish between good and bad, right and wrong, you are already being honest. Here comes the Free-will part. You alone have the power to decide whether to take an action, what kind of an action, and actually take the action. Thoughts do not have an impact, therefore, they don't count. Actions always have an impact, therefore, they always count. ekkuva aalochinchatam maanesi, prasaantangaa vundandi... naa laagaa!!! | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12912 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
so, is it ok to think bad and restrain ourselves from acting bad?? what would happen when we pile up these bad thoughts and then one sudden day, lose control of our restraint of not to act?? what would stop us from turning into a stalin or a hitler? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15246 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
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| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12911 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
how can that be established?? just the guilt of thought, without the actual crime being followed up? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12910 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
can we ever be so remorseful of our past thoughts/actions and how to get rid of those stains.... what is left of us if we dont even acknowledge our criminal thoughts and feel remorseful of? not talking about a confession box... but atleast, we need to be honest with one self? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Tilak Megastar Username: Tilak Post Number: 23725 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 61.12.4.90 Rating: N/A |
ofcourse! it is! Narendra Modi, Pradhan Mantri, Bharata Ganarajya - www.pmindia.nic.in - www.narendramodi.in | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 15245 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
nope. imagination is key for the growth of humans. Thinking bad is not acting bad. Ability to imagine, think bad stuff might be necessary to us in many scenarios. thoughts are not part of a singular process in our brain, there are always competing thoughts based on experiences and imaginations. | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12909 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
arent our actions result of what we practice over and over again and if so, thoughts of crime over and over again, cant they lead us to the path of crime? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12908 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
can the crime of thought of a criminal act ever be comparable to the crime of the act itself?? if not on same level, atleast on a couple of notches lesser level?? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12907 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
arent we what our thoughts are? if so, arent we crimina if our thoughts are??? keka link: fikileaks, | ||
| Thikka_sankara Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 12906 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.213.52 Rating: N/A |
is that even possible??? keka link: fikileaks, |
