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Avasarma ledandi - Depends on the state of the mind and strength of the will and what works for the individual- it is never a one size fits all


I accept.... but was amazed by the way they accepted the theory in face of such a life threatening situations...infact I was in doubt whether to talk about this theory or not, the general reaction we expect (atleast that I expected) is that they rip these apart without any consideration (have seen such instances too), .... but these two were amazing....

anyway, I dint, as I said in that post, go into details, just a one liner and left it there....
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Lichtenberg:

this hiding of primary motives is the key to success ani anukuntunnaa




yes, its easier le, but hindus route lo money ledhu ante object sesthunnaan.. there is money and more power too.. :-) ofcourse larger sacrifice.
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Bushu:

assuming you are aware of the expected value concept in stats. given the risk of death and the material benefits when not fighting, the expected value is higher in the army - for those who crave for the same EV but do not have the *smarts* to get to it outside. whoever sees this, makes the choice.




somehow it does not still answer my question. are you saying that people who join army, did not have options outside? if there is evidence against it, statistically what would be the % that would make your theory false? endhukante, i have not so far known anybody who joined army for the sake of finances!
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Mental_sachinodu:

you will get chance to make more than just money



u mean buchuku buchuku?

no sir.....hindu baba(if that is waht u meant) ante kashtam saar....namminchadaaniki

evangelicals erry clever in hiding their motives....too much hide chesthaaru language tho.....this hiding of primary motives is the key to success ani anukuntunnaa
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Mental_sachinodu:

why would anyone willingly chose a position with danger, while he can do better outside, financially? and you are saying all in the army because they did not have options outside?




assuming you are aware of the expected value concept in stats. given the risk of death and the material benefits when not fighting, the expected value is higher in the army - for those who crave for the same EV but do not have the *smarts* to get to it outside. whoever sees this, makes the choice.
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Lichtenberg:

hindu naayaallatho paisa upayogam ledu




big mishtake rao garu... the route is different. try sadhu route.. you will get chance to make more than just money
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this 'being smarter' is the more simplistic and a rather enticing view fueled by all those spy movies - ani naa feeling. there's a diff between getting smarter on the job, once you are in; versus actually picking a job because you are smarter to get in. and in any case, spy or police story is different from the army story. risk is not the same.

and yes, financial benefits are considerably better than any other service. and the entry barrier not as high. the smartest in any society would *never* pick an army spot.




nenu dheenine simplistic antunaanu rao garu. you cant fit all in one mould. and when i say smarter, more capable. and yes, why would anyone willingly chose a position with danger, while he can do better outside, financially? and you are saying all in the army because they did not have options outside?
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Mental_sachinodu:


mee yenkamma



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ya konnitini cut chesesad new MB lo.. but naku nachindi endhante Amba episodes lo.. Amba ni just marry cheskonu ane oka nepam tho shikandi la ga ochi bheeshma death lo major role play chesthundi ani telsu. Ee point ni - new MB lo konchem dramatise chesi baane chuyinchad and you get to see who really Amba is - how proud she is and how strong woman she is.. ila konni angles cover chesadu with Krishna commentary.


no whatever is shown where she goes to parasurama and parasurama fighting with bhishma and siva giving her boon everything is in vyasa mahabharatham
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Thikka_sankara:

recently my friend's friend who is a CA got into some NGO with a paycheque of approx 3lak/month in INR




nenu oka evangelist NGO start cheddaam anukuntunnaa.....too much money to ignore....very small NGOs in small towns getting crores of rupees each year......hindu naayaallatho paisa upayogam ledu
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Mental_sachinodu:

people who get into spy agencies or even charity institutions are usually much smarter than the average folks who make way more money and fame outside. we can call them misguided if that makes us feel better




this 'being smarter' is the more simplistic and a rather enticing view fueled by all those spy movies - ani naa feeling. there's a diff between getting smarter on the job, once you are in; versus actually picking a job because you are smarter to get in. and in any case, spy or police story is different from the army story. risk is not the same.

and yes, financial benefits are considerably better than any other service. and the entry barrier not as high. the smartest in any society would *never* pick an army spot.
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Sonyvaio:

antha chupinchadam kastam annai,




sony,

ya konnitini cut chesesad new MB lo.. but naku nachindi endhante Amba episodes lo.. Amba ni just marry cheskonu ane oka nepam tho shikandi la ga ochi bheeshma death lo major role play chesthundi ani telsu. Ee point ni - new MB lo konchem dramatise chesi baane chuyinchad and you get to see who really Amba is - how proud she is and how strong woman she is.. ila konni angles cover chesadu with Krishna commentary.
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Thikka_sankara:

recently my friend's friend who is a CA got into some NGO with a paycheque of approx 3lak/month in INR.... not everyone in charity dont make money...




mee yenkamma.. job veru.. charity veru.. maa neighborhood lo oka american kid for indian parents.. eye doctor, has been in africa for 2 years now.. pay seck eti ledhu.. just living on donations.. alanti valla gurinchi chepthunaan nen
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Mental_sachinodu:



the whole view is too simplistic ani na opinion


and I accept this... diff people take diff routes for various reasons... we cant try to fit everyone into same category
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Mental_sachinodu:

even charity institutions are usually much smarter than the average folks who make way more money and fame outside


recently my friend's friend who is a CA got into some NGO with a paycheque of approx 3lak/month in INR.... not everyone in charity dont make money...
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Bushu:

regarding evolution, we were once a hunter gatherer society. are we now, in the same sense?




gene ani topic thecharu kabatti aa post vesaanu.. unnecessary genes would be shed eventually, conscious ga try cheyakarledhu ani naa feeling. yes, we are still hunter gatherers, in not the same scale.


Bushu:



so in that case, would the pool of applicants remain the same if the extraordinary financial benefits of enrolment were taken away?



extra-ordinary financial benefits? what do you think the percentage of applicants when compared to the applications to other government agencies and private agencies. it can be a motivation to alot of folks, but not necessarily everyone, especially the ones applying for non-combat positions.

the whole view is too simplistic ani na opinion. people who get into spy agencies or even charity institutions are usually much smarter than the average folks who make way more money and fame outside. we can call them misguided if that makes us feel better :-)
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Getafix:

i watched Amba vs Bheeshma episodes.. excellent anipinchai. Old Mahabharath did not clearly showed Amba's point of view.


antha chupinchadam kastam annai, alage Pandavas Kauravas play dice second time adi chupinchaledu kotha mahabharatham lo
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Tombrady:


anipinchidi...aa range lo revenge evaru tesukoleru


idi later added masaala ani vinaa :D
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Anand_n:

Actually kotta mahabharatam




i watched Amba vs Bheeshma episodes.. excellent anipinchai. Old Mahabharath did not clearly showed Amba's point of view.
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Bushu:

ainaa, when e.th is predetermined, itlanti kochens enduku?




ante naa thapathrayam anthaa.. Arjun accepted that his role is so and so... BG lo something edo undhi that made him to accept wholeheartedly his role and his son Abhimanyu's role..thats really amazing, right. aa something ento telsukundam ani..

few times opika jeskuni Bg pravachanams vinna..the more i listen the more i get perplexed on BG.
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Anand_n:

so can we get back to Gita ?




this IS GITAAA ... ( 300 movie ref annatlu) :D
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so in that case, would the pool of applicants remain the same if the extraordinary financial benefits of enrolment were taken away?

regarding evolution, we were once a hunter gatherer society. are we now, in the same sense?
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yadava kulam loo evaro lady ki rokali banda pudithe danani mukkal chesi samundar loo vesthe oka mukka evariko dorikithe danni arrow ki etti chepa anukuni kisnudi kalu ki aim chesi kodithe avataram end avuddi ani sadiva.. is this real?


yes, aa boya vaadiki jinka eye la kanipistundi krishnudi kaalu botani vellu laga
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LOL, that's alright. does the desire to die sound 'rational' to you?




yes, and if you are saying only concern should be about personal life, then i think humans would not have evolved so far in time. as much as i dont subscribe to it today, that is one the reasons, humans could protect their societies, the willingness of few folks to give up their lives to save their societies. and there is a difference between willingness to do something, and desire.

most people who are in the front lines, do not like to die, but dont mind dying. i hope you are seeing the difference.
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Anything that is counter to the survival instinct needs a perceived deferred benefit to sustain :-) Last time I expressed my opinion on this there was a miniature riot in the DB so can we get back to Gita ?

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yadava kulam loo evaro lady ki rokali banda pudithe danani mukkal chesi samundar loo vesthe oka mukka evariko dorikithe danni arrow ki etti chepa anukuni kisnudi kalu ki aim chesi kodithe avataram end avuddi ani sadiva.. is this real?
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Mental_sachinodu:

and to the notion that someone gets excited about dying is immature(sorry).




LOL, that's alright. does the desire to die sound 'rational' to you?
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Bushu:

idhooo pedha thuthumbr story anpisthadhi naaku. same with my relatives in the army. 90% of the time, it is a financial decision I think. if someone gets so excited with the prospect of dying, such a gene does not deserve replication. kadhaa?




im not talking about the perspective of folks going into army, im talking about the parents.

and to the notion that someone gets excited about dying is immature(sorry).
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Bushu:

none of his own kids in the war then?


none of his sons were part of Mahabharatham ayite, all the yadavas dynasty gets wiped out, because gandhari curses krishna after the war saying you knew the result of war and still made the war to happen you will have the same result and being supreme of the universe should experience the death

yadavas fight in themselves and every one dies, bala rama and krishna survives, bala rama is also avatara of vishnu, bala rama will head to heavens but

anduke out of all vishnu avtaras, krishna avataram has to go thru the pain of death
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Sonyvaio:

yes he had many sons pradyumna was his first sone, he is not participant of the war, but during yadavas fight he dies




none of his own kids in the war then?
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Mental_sachinodu:

the only consolation for the parents is that because for a higher purpose, for the common good.




idhooo pedha thuthumbr story anpisthadhi naaku. same with my relatives in the army. 90% of the time, it is a financial decision I think. if someone gets so excited with the prospect of dying, such a gene does not deserve replication. kadhaa?
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Bushu:


does krishna have children? to know this? ;)


yes he had many sons pradyumna was his first sone, he is not participant of the war, but during yadavas fight he dies
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Getafix:

How would any parent feel that their child was tricked into a situation and made as sacrifice ..adi kuda telsinvadu - sontha bava(to arjun) and menamama ( to abhimanyu) chesthe pain inka ekkuva undadantara.




does krishna have children? to know this? ;)

ainaa, when e.th is predetermined, itlanti kochens enduku? abhimanyu was born to play that role. anthey.
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Hence the Gita before the war - to detach all connections - nobody is yours, no act is yours, there is no death to the soul etc..

Read it as a story - without trying to justify every act of Pandavas and Krishna as fair or right - the theory of bharatam is that the ends justifies the means :-)

Actually kotta mahabharatam regular ga chudataledu but there are some excellent philosophical questions and nuggets in the dialogues..kudos to the writer and director for zooming in on those grey areas.

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Getafix:

but Krishna tricked him to go into war..




tricked .. wrong word. persuaded ani chadukondi.Thanks
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ide naku confusion. Kurukshetram jarigedi rajyam kosam..but in the end there are no winners.

Arjun was right that there was no point in fighting relatives but Krishna tricked him to go into war.. for what? Lose his own family.


war result valana there will be only one ruler, one system, one governance......people were confused between kauravas and pandavas and other kings and their governance

so war ayyaka almost all kings will die except for yadavas becacuse they dont participate, krishna also knew that his own family will be wiped out because of this war
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Anand_n:

Its true of every parent sending their offspring to war ...the only thing keeping them from caving is the belief that it is for a higher purpose




yep.

last time india trip, my cousin was very sad that her son has decided to join the army, ofcourse engineering corps. she asked me to see if i can dissuade him. ofcourse i knew i was going to be able to. Her hope was that i gave up on my ambition of being in IAF, because my parents did not want me to.

i could not do it. ee generation lo bagane join ayaaru army lo with in the family. the only consolation for the parents is that because for a higher purpose, for the common good.
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the only thing keeping them from caving is the belief that it is for a higher purpose




Agree.. but in this case - you dont know your enemy right.

How would any parent feel that their child was tricked into a situation and made as sacrifice ..adi kuda telsinvadu - sontha bava(to arjun) and menamama ( to abhimanyu) chesthe pain inka ekkuva undadantara.
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exactly, we always think Pandavas wone, ultimately they are also the losers from the battle.




ide naku confusion. Kurukshetram jarigedi rajyam kosam..but in the end there are no winners.

Arjun was right that there was no point in fighting relatives but Krishna tricked him to go into war.. for what? Lose his own family.
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Sonyvaio:

war lo chanipoyina prati vaadu heaven ki veltadu, so when dharma raju went to heaven, all pandavas and kauravas were waiting for him

Inka good and evil antav, all characters had both good and evil side to them

greatest evil character anukune Sakuni was follower of krishna




sakuni character keka...chinnappudu hated him but his angle telisaka super

anipinchidi...aa range lo revenge evaru tesukoleru
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good won vs evil kada concept...not pandavas except dharma raju heaven ki elthad


war lo chanipoyina prati vaadu heaven ki veltadu, so when dharma raju went to heaven, all pandavas and kauravas were waiting for him

Inka good and evil antav, all characters had both good and evil side to them

greatest evil character anukune Sakuni was follower of krishna
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Arjunudi varaku enduku - look around you ...Its true of every parent sending their offspring to war ...the only thing keeping them from caving is the belief that it is for a higher purpose

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exactly, we always think Pandavas wone, ultimately they are also the losers from the battle.





good won vs evil kada concept...not pandavas except dharma raju heaven ki elthad
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ante enthayina fathereiis kada.. prepancham lo most saddest thing is - parent seeing child death ani fersonal feeling.


exactly, we always think Pandavas wone, ultimately they are also the losers from the battle.
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Anand_n:

Dharmayudham lo sacrifice




ante enthayina fathereiis kada.. prepancham lo most saddest thing is - parent seeing child death ani fersonal feeling.
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Dharmayudham lo sacrifice - both Abhimanyu and Ghatotkacha...


all the upa pandavas die
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Abhimanyu death lo Krishna involvment untadi kada indirect ga.. Arjun ki ee vishayam telusthunda or telidha?

Arjun ki okavela telisthe - ela kshaminchagaligado krishnudini?


indirect kaadu, direct gaa telisi, Arjun ni teesukuni veltadu,

Krishna believes war is going in stalemate direction and abhimanyu needs to die and after abhimanyu's death Pandavas go on rampage also pandavalu sainyam kuda count takkuva untadi during that time


Also krishna and sahadeva on pandavas side know that none of the kuru vamsa will be alive if war take place and who will be remains of the war.....also dritarastra knows it from vedavyas
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ela kshaminchagaligado krishnudini?




Dharmayudham lo sacrifice - both Abhimanyu and Ghatotkacha...

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today's question

Abhimanyu death lo Krishna involvment untadi kada indirect ga.. Arjun ki ee vishayam telusthunda or telidha?

Arjun ki okavela telisthe - ela kshaminchagaligado krishnudini?
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inka nenu nerchukoledhu adhi




Memorise chestunnara ? I have a book on my desk :-)

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Thanks Sheriff :-) Much appreciated

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Jambalahaart_raja:

There is nothing basically. There is no Dharma, there is no Karma


Bad karma doesn't mean questioning authority. There is no concept of blasphemy in hinduism. what authority are you talking about?

and .. who told you budhists dont believe in karma?

agnostism veru budhism veru.

Sankara was a revolutionary in his time. he defied auhotirity. So were madhvacharya, vallabhacharya and Ramanujacharya

they were all revolted against authority in their times

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Thikka_sankara:

I have seen cases like this where they accepted the theory....will post details later




Avasarma ledandi - Depends on the state of the mind and strength of the will and what works for the individual- it is never a one size fits all :-)

I think, just like a body knows what it needs and craves the specific foods , the mind instinctively gravitates towards what will work for it :-) Different theories and philosophies are just options available :-)

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Jambalahaart_raja:

mana chuttu choosthuntaam.. abhaagyulu... duradrushtavanthulu...
puduthune tallino, tandrino, leka iddarino pogottukunnollu...
born handicapped.. blind, deaf, mute etc...
puduthune em paapam chesaaru?


or may be the parents sinned badly to not enjoy company of their offspring? (even if you discard the possibility of Karma accrued from a different life?) when there are several actors in a scene, why judge the scene from one subject's perspective? why not look at other actors? I am not here for endorsing Karma Siddantam or its fallacies, but if you wish to analyze, it needs to be complete! Just saying.
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the person in the water struggling to stay afloat cannot.


beleve me.... I have seen cases like this where they accepted the theory....will post details later
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All these theories appeal to people when it gives them a sliver of hope for life :-) someone sitting safely in the boat can believe God/purva janma sukrutam/karma will protect - the person in the water struggling to stay afloat cannot...they will and have to make their own efforts to keep their head over the water.. Na karmaphalam unte I will live or it is my karma to die now ani accept cheste they are foolish :-)

Point is, theory could be true , could be a fantastic psychotherapy for the mild - somewhat severe seekers-sufferers of existential crisis spectrum but not so much for the outliers
So acceptability of karma siddhantam depends on the psychological and circumstantial state of the person .. There is no need to take umbrage:-)

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I think you will find more resonance with the Ashtavakra Gita if you choose to read it :-) not that you have to or that it will resolve anything - timepass avvakapote chadavandi :-)

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Anand_n:

Continued on your behalf since you did not


Thanks Sis...inka nenu nerchukoledhu adhi
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Jambalahaart_raja:

Please Don't say Last Birth and all that crap!!!
Poorva janma sukruthaalu.. punyam moota kattukoledu etc etc!!!!


that is the premise of karma theory....but looks like you are in no mood to lend a listening ear....so wont delve into it much....but will juzt say one thing...once someone asked this question abt karma theory "why is the punishment or encouragement is not instantaneous....why it spans across lifetimes....if they are instantaneous no body would err, right??'

And the answer came "it is not out of fear that one decides not to err...it should be out of free will...."
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and why is it demeaning if his students do a great job



Drustadyumna's birth itself is to take revenge (kill) drona....and inspite of knowing this drona accepts drustadyumna as his disciple and teaches him well....in words of duryodhana "so well that drustadyumna is commander of pandava's army"....duryodhana's inner meaning is to say " see this is your making"
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Cocanada:

nee bonda raa
nee bonda




Thikka_sankara:

assalu Gita lo unnave questions and answerss




Mukunda kurrod baane egesflain sesthannaadu kaani...

The Order - Dharma. Rules Text book.
The Authority - some Higher Power. Krishna keeps repeating it is I, Who is the Kartha, Karma and Kriya.
Oppression - Any slightest question about the above two aspects, straight-forward single-word answer - Karma. You reap what you sow.

Asalu karma sidhhantham nijamenaa??
Basically ee DB loney yevari life lo ayinaa.. when you look back...
tinna tindiki... chadivina chaduvuki,..
chadivina chaduvuki.. chesthunna vudyogaaniki...
chesthunna vudyogaaniki... teeskune jeethaaniki...
teeskune jeethaaniki.. tiney tindiki...
yekkadaina balance kanipisthundaa??
Time-to-time maaripovatam ledaa???

mana chuttu choosthuntaam.. abhaagyulu... duradrushtavanthulu...
puduthune tallino, tandrino, leka iddarino pogottukunnollu...
born handicapped.. blind, deaf, mute etc...
puduthune em paapam chesaaru?
Please Don't say Last Birth and all that crap!!!
Poorva janma sukruthaalu.. punyam moota kattukoledu etc etc!!!!

There is practically so much out of our control about our own life.
I will be like this anedi Desire vonly.. fulfill avuthundi... avvadu.. who is deciding what is out of our hands?

oka set of Rules vunte andariki samaanangaa vundaali. kolamaanam antu vunte, there should be a 0 where it should all start. TOGETHER FOR EVERYBODY.

This is where Agnosticism and Budhhism worked. There is no measure, there is no past, present, future. whatever has happened before will happen again. There is nothing basically. There is no Dharma, there is no Karma. There may be a Higher Authority, and need not be bothered about. Just stay aloof.

Que sera.. sera!!! Whatever will be.. will be!!!

Peace Out Ombres!!!!
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so he can narrate the happenings on the battlefield to Dhritarashtra




we also invented chinese torture annatlu. kekaaa.
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seriously no idea at all on bg




Veda Vyasa grants Sanjaya the boon of divyadrishti so he can narrate the happenings on the battlefield to Dhritarashtra:-)

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Okahyderabadi:

commander in chief




Thanks - I was not thinking of the C-i-C aspect :-)

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Anand_n:

Drishtadyumna and Arjuna are both Drona's students so that phrase "tava shishyena" could apply to both and to all pandavas - and why is it demeaning if his students do a great job


Actual ga in this text he is referring to Drushtadyumna as he is the commander in chief of Pandava Army. Most of Suyodhan's comments are in the same tone throughout the Mahabharat
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Thikka_sankara:

this is more like a demeaning remark to drona from duryodhana




Drishtadyumna and Arjuna are both Drona's students so that phrase "tava shishyena" could apply to both and to all pandavas - and why is it demeaning if his students do a great job :-)

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Lord krishna in bhagvat gita..
Tusam taha taha .. vedam paramatma ..krodam kata kataa ..bunk lo chikina vadiki bunk lo ne jevitam adavi lo perigina vadiki nethi nerpina valayama neku ela sandeham valaya sandruguthiiii
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Anand_n:

Dhrupada's son and your student...


this is more like a demeaning remark to drona from duryodhana
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Anand_n:

lanti questions vestunnaru emiti





seriously no idea at all on bg. Edo akkada ikkada vinna pitta kathalu on Kurukshetram valla konchem war meeda idea undhi anthe.
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sanjaya knows BG?




Sanjaya has bdoordarshan and wiretaps into all communications happening on Kurukshetra - Ilanti questions vestunnaru emiti :-)

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nado doubt.. bhagavadgita krishnudu only arjun ke kada cheppedi.. mari how come sanjaya knows BG?
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# 3:
Pashyaitam Panduputranamacharya mahatim chamoom
vyudham Dhrupadaputrena tava shishyena dhimata

Meaning :

Acharya , behold this great army formation put together by Pandu's sons, Dhrupada's son and your student...



Gandhiguevara:


Continued on your behalf since you did not :-)

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Aristotle:

vishnu sahasranamam lo oka stanza anukunta



Aristotle:

Bhagavad Gita



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Lax:

Gandhiguevara:
Sanjaya Uvaacha:
Drishtwaa tu paandavaaneekam vyudham duryodhanastadaa;
Aachaaryam upasamgamya raajaa vachanam abraveet.




vishnu sahasranamam lo oka stanza anukunta
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Gandhiguevara:

Sanjaya Uvaacha:
Drishtwaa tu paandavaaneekam vyudham duryodhanastadaa;
Aachaaryam upasamgamya raajaa vachanam abraveet.




Sanjaya said :
Seeing the army formation of the Pandavas and their allies, Duryodhana approached his Acharya and and said the following words...


Slokam to patu meaning kuda apost cheyyandi in telugu or English - it will be more useful foe people :-)

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Bushu:

either comes from with in or not. unfortunately during the amateurish debates, all such with-in philo is termed as too anecdotal and brushed aside.




:-) Meedi tenali, maadi Tenali ...na category anamata ..

My mom said some guru on tV eulogised Ashtavakra Geeta and should read it - so I read it out of curiosity - mostly deja vu and validation of the within derivations /deductions :-) Its not a prescriptive manual - and it was an easy read

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nope. my learning co-eff for philosophy is jeero. either comes from with in or not. unfortunately during the amateurish debates, all such with-in philo is termed as too anecdotal and brushed aside. only a baba avatar can remediate this. a haayi baba is a great idea.
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good info. thanks annai
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ashtam etlago vakrangaane untadhi gaa? atla geetha geeyeneeke book dheniki?




Chadivara ? :-) If not, there is an online copy in devanagiri with hindi and english translations somewhere on the web - If you are interested I can look for it:-)

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There is another meaning for KURU that "to do ".

If we rearrange the words it will be "Khesthara Khesthara Dharmam Kuru" .

"Let every one does one's Dharma". This is the whole essence of BG.

Then next question is What is Dharma ? Who explains it ?
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Dhirta Rastra = Who thinks others kingdom as his own
Sanjaya = Who wins over Indriyas

Dhirta Rastra : In one sense ,we all are Dhirta Rastra who thinks this is our own body and wealth. In other words,it is our story. That is one reason why BG is started with his name. We make every attempt not to loose this at any time. we turn a blind eye to the fact that we need leave everything at some point of time.

Dharma - Synonym of Absolute Truth. BG is started with this auspicious word.

Khesthra - Field . In other words it is body which we all are awarded. It is our own field and we can seed good , bad or inturn writes our own destiny.

If we seed Good(Punya) - Happiness ( Sukha ) will come
If we seed Bad(Papa ) - Unhappiness ( Dukha) will come
( Most of the other theroies stop here). But there is one more to add..
If we seed Knowledge(Jnana) - Salvation ( Moksha) will come

Kuru - Hair
Khesthra - Field

There are three types of bodies that exist in this Universe.
i) Dharma Khesthara - Gods , With their good deeds they have got happiness
ii)Dharma Khesthara Kuru Khesthra - Humans , With their mix of deeds they derive both happiness and unhappiness
iii) Kuru Khesthra - Other than these such as animals , insects etc ....

If we rearrange the words it will be "Khesthara Khesthara Dharmam Kuru" . "Let every one does one's Dharma". This is the whole essence of BG.


There is lot more discuss on this verse, Hope you will listen to the full at the given link.}
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The Order, The Authority, and the oppression against raising any questions!!!
Induku kaadu Budhhism was a serious threat!!!
Agnosticism Zindabad!!!


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Prcisely it is ....

Dhirta Rastra = Who thinks others kingdom as his own
Sanjaya = Who wins over Indriyas

Dhirta Rastra Spritual View : In one sense ,we all are Dhirta Rastra who thinks this is our own body and wealth. In other words,it is our story. That is one reason why BG is started with his name. We make every attempt not to loose this at any time. we turn a blind eye to the fact that we need leave everything at some point of time.

Dharma - Synonym of Absolute Truth. BG is started with this auspicious word.

Khesthra - Field . In other words it is body which we all are awarded. It is our own field and we can seed either good (Punya) or bad(Papa) which inturn writes our own destiny.

will continue ....
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Jambalahaart_raja:


The Order, The Authority, and the oppression against raising any questions!!!


what the heckkk.... oppression aaa?? too much anipinchaledaa?? assalu Gita lo unnave questions and answerss and then... Krishna only suggests, doesnt ask you to forcefully practice..... dont know what you are talkin about???
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Please listen to this discourse on first sloka.

http://youtu.be/e0CAqEE6aYA

A profound explanation of first sloka.

If you know Bharatham, listen it form 7th minute.
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Jalsa:

Gita



The Order, The Authority, and the oppression against raising any questions!!!
Induku kaadu Budhhism was a serious threat!!!
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Emi chadavakkarlekundaney choopinchestunnadu Gita naaku, LOL!
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Naku Manushulu enduku kottukuchastunnaro Reason kavali....




reason ledu.. kottuku chaavatam nature, the naizam!!!
just excuse saripothundi!!!
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Sanjaya Uvaacha:
Drishtwaa tu paandavaaneekam vyudham duryodhanastadaa;
Aachaaryam upasamgamya raajaa vachanam abraveet.
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Good idea - scriptures konchem lighthearted ga chadivitene manchidi anedi na opinion




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Gita quran kaadu......Bible(both old testament and new testament)chaduvu tharvaatha koran chaduvu....u might get answers




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Gita quran kaadu......Bible


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Quran n Gita Pakka Pakkan petti chaduvutunna Rendu pakka pakkana petti chaduvutunna Time dorikinappudu Naku Manushulu enduku kottukuchastunnaro Reason kavali




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Rendu bore kottinaooudu elief ksam maa SRK bomma




Good idea - scriptures konchem lighthearted ga chadivitene manchidi anedi na opinion :-)

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Rendu bore kottinaooudu elief ksam maa SRK bomma :D
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Cocanada:

I recommend you to read "ashta vakra gita"




ashtam etlago vakrangaane untadhi gaa? atla geetha geeyeneeke book dheniki?
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Cocanada:

I recommend you to read "ashta vakra gita"




Chadivite ekkedi kadu ee text, it has to be realized - and once you do understand, you don't need to read the text :-)

Okahyderabadi:

How was your Alaska trip?




Very good - I owe a few peopkle a detailed review and will post once I get some time :-)

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How was your Alaska trip?
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Quran n Gita Pakka Pakkan petti chaduvutunna




inka nayam, sharuk movie kooda add cheyaledu combo lo :D
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Manushulu enduku kottukuchastunnaro Reason kavali






Religion has 2 aspects. spiritual, cultural. islam lo kuran undi, sharia undi. what we are seeing is clash of civilizations - arabic vs indian civilizations due to cultural differences.

muslims believe in formless god. so do hindus. hindus believe god is everywhere. even in idols. muslims also believe in sacred lands (jerusalem/macca), buildings. no disputes there.

spirituality gurinchi evvaru kottkoru. god is formless, and all pervading. there is no dispute about it anywhere

but each civilization has culture and habits - when they try to ascertain their superiority over others, there will be problems.

btw..who told you bhagavadgita is equivalent of kuran and bible? Its not. Its one of the scriptures. Its important but no need to believe in it. I recommend you to read "ashta vakra gita"
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Rendu pakka pakkana petti chaduvutunna


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Ninna Idi kuda download chesa Simplified English lo Quran....

Quran n Gita Pakka Pakkan petti chaduvutunna Rendu pakka pakkana petti chaduvutunna Time dorikinappudu Naku Manushulu enduku kottukuchastunnaro Reason kavali.... :D

Download chesukune vallu Chesukondi....

http://www.clearquran.com/index.html
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Ninna Download chesa Simplified Bhagavadgita....

Childrengita anta Chala simple ga Baaga Arthamavutundi.... Proper Gita chadavataniki try chesa kaani aa Sloka's n Vaati means without pictures Naa valla kaala idi baaga Ekkutundi....

Kavalante Download chesukondi....

http://www.gita-society.com/childrengita.pdf
Religious wars are basically people killing each other over who has the better imaginary friend -- Napoleon Bonaparte"
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Anand_n:

Sloka of the day series start chestunnara?


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Or are you asking what's happening in the DB kurukshetram ? :-)

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Sloka of the day series start chestunnara? :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Ante enti annai,oka sari chadavali ani wish kaani
Ee age lo bagodemo ani
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Dhritaraashtra Uvaacha:
Dharmakshetre kurukshetre samavetaa yuyutsavah;
Maamakaah paandavaashchaiva kim akurvata sanjaya.

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