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Thikka_sankara
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Lolli:

why would NYT be hinduphobic...whats in it for NYT..



Lolli:

ok agreed NYT is afraid of hinduism.
and agreed that hinduism did not tell us to go outside.



Lolli:

wtf


ejjattlyy...lol
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fikileaks,
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ground reality

was walking up the 7 hills and noticed toilet facilities every 500 steps. Noticed a couple that were being cleaned as I was walking by even but waited till I reached the guest house to relieve myself. Dont know how many are like me but it just didnt occur to me to use those toilets.
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Lolli:


ee so called economists and proffessors ide energy and focus ee problem solve chesudu meeda pedte baguntadi ani kavi bhavam




naa kavi bhavam kooda adhe vunkl ... instead of focusing on the issue, these authors are wasting their energy and others emotions in the wrong places.


Anand_n:

inka energy waste chesukovatam waste




ee vishayam first post vesinappati ninchi thelusthundhi.. kaani endhuku posts vesthunaano thelvatam ledhu :D
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Lolli
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ok agreed NYT is afraid of hinduism.
and agreed that hinduism did not tell us to go outside.

so does that take away from the fact that we have a major problem in our country??

ee so called economists and proffessors ide energy and focus ee problem solve chesudu meeda pedte baguntadi ani kavi bhavam
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Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2014 - 02:56 pm:   Insert Quote Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aa Harris edo chetta article raasadu - daniki Shukla already gave a good enough rebuttal -inka energy waste chesukovatam waste :-)

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ok, coming to the hypocrisy here. Most of these articles immediatly identify India as a Hindu country for all its ailments, and never seem to get that it is possibly the largest secular country today.

It doesnt consider the fact that muslims who never eat pork, also defacate outside in india, and there is not a hint of "hindu" in them, based on what they see hinduism as.

also, nenu inni posts endhuku vesthunaano naake thelvadhi chass... too much coffee anukunta
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Sweetveerudu:


ee matter ee DB ki matram relevant kaadu. pakkane inko thread nadustundi deeni gurinchi




vunkl religuous ani andhuke tag add chesaanu... ante by rule follow ayye vaalu gurinchi... naa laanti rule benders gurinchi kaadhu.

when it comes to religion, the most conservative lead their life more in accordance with their belief systems.. in that case conservative hindus should defecate in public any where in the world, if their belief system dictates it anedhi naa point.

ofcourse, one other argument would be the lack of rules about in the religion is the cause. ee argument ayithe dhenikaina vaadesukovachu.
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Mental_sachinodu:

a religious hindu wont eat beef





Mental_sachinodu:

irrespective of the place they are in.






ee matter ee DB ki matram relevant kaadu. pakkane inko thread nadustundi deeni gurinchi.
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Lichtenberg:

hindus anthaa manu smriti ni follow ayyi chemu attukoni elthunnaaru




you see the same kind of social scientist, kancha illayiah kooda ilanti reasons ye chepthaadu... the reason im not a hindu is because christians built toilets :d . evari thuthi valladhi ...

kalikalam vunkl kooda vachi two animuthyams vadhalaali ani korukuntunnaan, how upper castes are the reason for it.
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Mental_sachinodu:

the author should be asked, if its religion why arent hindu's doing living in western countries, while a religious hindu wont eat beef and a religious muslim/jew wont eat pork, irrespective of the place they are in.




if u read the second link i gave....u can clearly see the questioning is based solely on the same data used by NYT...

hindus anthaa manu smriti ni follow ayyi chemu attukoni elthunnaaru
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definite bias untadhi ee articles lo. ofcourse under the sun can be claimed as a valid question when you can brush with enough ignorance about the topic at hand.

the author should be asked, if its religion why arent hindu's doing living in western countries, while a religious hindu wont eat beef and a religious muslim/jew wont eat pork, irrespective of the place they are in.

clearly logic fails.
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Lolli:

why would NYT be hinduphobic


because they are not our well wishers??? simpulu
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questioning and showing the flaws in crazy theories is denying the problem anukunte em jeyyalem

NYT and gardiner harris past articles on india choosinaa u can clearly see their bias
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inkanayam cut ayyindi kabatti cut drawers estaru hindus eyyaru analedu J/K :d
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Lolli:

wtf...why would NYT be hinduphobic...whats in it for NYT..




well, someone compiled a list of NYT's hindu religion references , often unwarranted, in many articles. link dorikithey pedathaa. when there's a pattern, there will be a deduction.
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wtf...why would NYT be hinduphobic...whats in it for NYT..

instead of trying disprove and discredit the writers of the NYT article, manollu ide time and energy issue at hand meeda pedte emanna phaida undedemo.
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Lichtenberg:


mana db lone edchaaru konthamandi... ready to cry on hinduism at the blink of an eye lid..... lol


The "ancient Hindu text" that Harris helpfully cites, the Manu Smriti, was written in 500 BCE--latrines were not exactly outfitted with cultured marble or bidets! That text gives exacting guidelines as to the distance to be maintained from a water source such as a river while urinating or defecating. There are several rules regarding the direction to look, and how to clean oneself after defecation. The essence of the rules are the same: defecate in the open, well away from home and water sources.

Hindu texts classified as Smritis, such as the Manu Smriti referred to here, are not considered among the eternal, realized (revealed) texts classified as Sruti. So Smritis are interpretable to time and space, and to make an incredible claim that this text is guiding Hindus in how to defecate today, without any surveys or interviews given as evidence, seems wildly irresponsible.

Defecating far away from home likely was quite sensible up to the point when one's far away became someone else's backyard. And in the modern era, as Harris himself points out, toilets are no panacea; effluent pipes get blocked and overflow during the monsoon season; water is not always flowing such that they could be flushed; and so on. Heck, camping guides kind of echo what the Manu Smriti said of clean defecation in a time when people lived in a bit more basic environs.

Moreover, why even invoke religion in this piece? Getting to 40 percent open defecation (the Muslim rate in the study) from 66 percent (the Hindu rate) would be a major improvement, and getting infant mortality from 75 births per 1000 to 65 per 1000 would also be a major improvement (if misleadingly presented on a graph with truncated axes). But getting to 3 percent as in Bangladesh will require making significant strides in all religious groups.
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Is it religion which makes Hindus defecate in the open more than Muslims?

An analysis of the paper used by NYT, Economist to peddle bullshit


http://rupasubramanya.blogspot.in/2014/07/is-it-religion-whi ch-makes-hindus.html
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suhag-a-shukla-esq/how-the-nyt -masks-hinduph_b_5608266.html

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