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Eye accuracy not based on hand dexterity, both the eye and hand dexterity are related to the mind....




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Raman:

Why women look beautiful ante eti septam they look different kada ante same with lefth anders





Are you sure


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david gower for me is the most stylish
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
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Raman:

Why women look beautiful ante eti septam they look different kada ante same with lefth anders




Beauty, looks, handsomeness meedha kooda sava laksha research studies unnayi, largely done by evolutionary biologists....how women's hormones reach to different types of facial and body types (also depends on which stage of their monthly cycle they are in etc.), one very common finding is that facial symmetry is considered to be an important feature of overall handsomeness as it indicates underlying health etc etc. ila chala interesting studies untayi..
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Why women look beautiful ante eti septam they look different kada ante same with lefth anders
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Azhar for me is the most elegant player there was ...





Rolls Royce in elegance all time is Mark Waugh. No one even comes close.
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Reddit:

Buffy elegance ante Bottom hand tho em link?



Reddit:

Warner kurrodu is a natural rightie but is he elegant?



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Elegance ki bottom hand lo link ledhu, upper hand tho link undhi. Raina too is ugly as a package, but in areas like his cover drives because he is a natural rightie, he is able to make up for his natural lack of flair.

The point is not that all left handers are elegant (a la Warner or Raina) or that right handers are not. Azhar for me is the most elegant player there was ...the simple point is that the %age of lefthanders who are more pleasing to the eye is more than the %age of right handers who are so.

Probably elegant is not the most accurate word to use, probably it should be ability to time better, appear to use less force etc etc. Because of their ability to see the ball more clearly (because of the lesser parallax error), they have a lot more time to play their shots and their seeming casuality.

Again i am not saying that wrist position, quick reflexes are less important but only that they are more important to a right hander than a leftie. The leftie does not have to work that hard, in a nutshell.
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Warner kurrodu is a natural rightie but is he elegant?
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Buffy elegance ante Bottom hand tho em link? It has do more with head and wrist position and how aesthetically pleasing it is on the eye. Raina is ugly but his back foot cover drives are a sight to behold.
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Bottom handed shots are less elegant and is just an application of brute force.




this seems to be the bottomline. kaani, square cut, pull, hook can all be very elegant shots with the bottom hand coming in heavy.
I think this so-called elegance has more to do with the symmetry of body position and balance than anything else. an azzu glance or his square cut is any day more elegant to me than a ganguly cover drive.
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Friday night question....correct ga cheppina vallaki next time Delhi lo free drinks...




Elegance and attacking style are diffrent. Left handers are worst elegance but very attacking. Very few have elegance like Lara. Most disgusting left of all time is Allan Border.


Elegance ante only righties have it.
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left ledu right ledu......left handers koncham science/maths etc lo knowledge unna vallu but lokagyanam etc lo erribagulollu.......

nen observe chesindi nenu right hand naa age unde maa cousins left handers iit/mbbs kani yeti labam bola manusulu i am farrrrr better than them.....
i am leading a pious life so far so good
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Mental_sachinodu:

Coming to the eye, never until today did i think that one eye could be better than the other based on hand dexterity.




Eye accuracy not based on hand dexterity, both the eye and hand dexterity are related to the mind....
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idhi myth anukuntnna!! lfet or right doesnt matter...style matters!! adhi kontha mandike vundi!
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Nen ambi dexterous - aithey ippudu nenu semi elegant aa



Lucky fellow vi.. guitar baaga vaayistava? :D
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nenu eeyana batting soodaledhi vunkll.. vinatame ..




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zaheeru abbasu meedha nalugu mukkal seppu




nenu eeyana batting soodaledhi vunkll.. vinatame ..
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zaheeru abbasu meedha nalugu mukkal seppu
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Guru:

Carl hooper ni marichar..on par with Mark Waugh if not better




sunny thatha oka paali commentary box ninchi vadhilina aanimuthyam..

if mark waugh is Mr Cricket in style, Carl hooper is Ms Cricket, much more elegant and graceful ani :D
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Guru:

Carl hooper ni marichar..on par with Mark Waugh if not better




gurujiii.. yess.. missed him
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Carl hooper ni marichar..on par with Mark Waugh if not better
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ugliest leftie ante nen chusindhi Micheal bevan.

Ugliest Rightie is ijaz Ahmed - kurrod throws with lefthand.
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Ante shots anni cricket lo kotti, actual time lo kottaleka poyadu






vook.. second kauphy helped decode this line ..
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FUDBOLL lo majority goals are scored by RightLeg. gamanincharo ledho.
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excellent insight. i guess i missed exploring the part why right hand would be stronger for a left hand batsmen and vice versa.

Coming to the eye, never until today did i think that one eye could be better than the other based on hand dexterity.
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Humpty_dumpty:

tendu writes with left




Yes, he was ambi dextrous though not fully, same is the case with Mark Waugh...

Even as a kid when i used to play left handed once in a while, i used to play as well, i used to wonder why...
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applying natural dexterity theory to mark waugh makes complete sense
he was ambidextrous in many ways

and tendu writes with left
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Border - he was a natural lefty, that was one reason he was so in elegant...




Left hand elegent are gower and , ganguly
In a way we can call them lazy also, as the quick deliveries always troubled them

Border and Lara are not elegenat and play blut shots mosts
excepting few elecgent shots. They are very fast and not lazy, so react fast to qucik deliveries
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Okay. The answer goes like this. Not my theory but from the famous Aussie writer Jack Fingleton who wrote a long article about it. I read it in Ram Guha's Picador Book on Cricket Anthology.

Firstly - most of the elegant left-hand batsman that we can name of Lara, Ganguly, Gower, etc are all natural right handers. They bowl, field with their right hand. So their main arm is their right arm. When a left hander faces the bowler, the top hand now is their right arm, which is their main arm and hence they are able to generate an excessive amount of force without a lot of exertion. So their off drives, cover drives, are all casually and lazily elegant. In the same vein, a natural left hander who also bats left handed will not show the same elegance as his strong hand viz his left hand is the bottom hand. Bottom handed shots are less elegant and is just an application of brute force. So in these cases, the left hander is no different from a right hander.
A couple of you have come close here but did not mention the natural right-handed nature of many left handers which is key to the issue here.

Second - none of you have covered eyesight. Same as above, the natural right hander who is playing left handed see the ball with his right eye which is the stronger eye (less parallax error). So he is able to catch the ball earlier and also gauge the line of the ball earlier, hence they are able to time their hits very sweetly. If you want to check which eye is more accurate, close your right eye and point your finger at something on the wall, open both the eyes and note how far your finger is from the correct position on the wall of the object. Now do the same with your left eye. You will find that the left eye (for right handers) is inaccurate by a fair margin.

So because of better eye sight and the power of the top hand, most left handers are quite elegant. Border - he was a natural lefty, that was one reason he was so in elegant...
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Becuase there are many right hand bowlers + who does more of inswing
very few are outswing

The inswing from righties goes away to lefties, making them effortless to reach to ball without much foot work, as force is working away from them

For righites inswing comes into them, making them to use foot work anf force to keep it away

How all lefties feel awkeard when they face a good outswing deliveries is that become inswing for them is an example
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One thing I have noticed over the years is..

Lefties cover drive kottinappudu..they don't lean into the shot as much as right handers do, makes it look effortless..most of them hit the drives from a semi-standing position, even the front foot ones..Ganguly,Lara and others you have seen. (only exception among righties is Mark Waugh)

Righties lean into the shot with the head coming down..Tendulkar, Dravid
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Mental_sachinodu:

lefti jayasuriya ... aboo vadhule




One day format lo Keka. Kaani right bowler padite quick ga lestadu
Test format lo waek

Awsome wrist power, elegeance ki hard hitting ki middle path lo untadu
Paap Sri lanka Air hostess chesukunnadu
Aa gayyali tanam bharichaleka divorse teesukunnadu

Ante shots anni cricket lo kotti, actual time lo kottaleka poyadu
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one more player i missed of our times.. Mahela.. he cant seem to play an awkward shot :D ..

lefti jayasuriya ... aboo vadhule :D
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Right Handers - Square cut : Elegent
Lefties cannot paly this freely

Lefies cover drive : Elegent
Righties : Few like Veng Sarkar play elegent

Lefties Sixers : Elegent
Righites : appreas hard hitting

Righites Flick & Hook : Awsome to watch and elegent
Lefties : Awkward

Righties straigt Drive : Elegent
Lefties : OK

Righties Pull shot : Elegenat
Lefties : Mostly feel unfomrtable to play
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Filmbuff:

I stand corrected, apparently Sobers was quite graceful too.



nenu adhe anukunna.. supposedly he was very beautiful to watch.

inka ekkado chadivinattu gurthu.. Greame pollock was another one.

but lefties lo most awkard players kooda chala mandhi unaaru .. one of my fave is klusener.. mutton kathi masthaan type batting.. but errrry effective
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Siloan:

ninna yaadho thed lo desham lo mandu veyaledu annav ....
affud pakkana olanna vunnera




appatlo ... side lo undi.. observation mathrame .. no drinking .. aallu thaagesaaka.. dropping.. picking lantivi anna maata :D


Siloan:



say hai to bella



will sure do
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Mental_sachinodu:

beers attukoni stands lo time pass sese vallam...




ninna yaadho thed lo desham lo mandu veyaledu annav ....
affud pakkana olanna vunnera

say hai to bella
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Even Sobers was not very attractive, it is said.




I stand corrected, apparently Sobers was quite graceful too.
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1. Brian Charles Lara
2. David Gower
3. Dada
4. Yuvraj
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bcoz their main base is with Right hand
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Mental_sachinodu:

struggled a bit to find the word to type here.. the word i wanted to use was unreal , for nammable


lol...you are done!
DB slang lo licked...kiki
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nammable ga undevi kaadhu




struggled a bit to find the word to type here.. the word i wanted to use was unreal , for nammable :D
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Humpty_dumpty:

.gangu is the most aesthetic off side player ani septhay saalu...janaal ardham chesukuntaar




yes.. konni shots ayithe.. nammable ga undevi kaadhu ... effortless and grace go hand in hand ..

VVS kurrod hyd lo ranji games aade appudu elle vallamu.. beers attukoni stands lo time pass sese vallam... abbo, he was a league above,below and everything else compared to the rest of the players. aa shots, aa ease choosi jaali vesedhi bowlers meedha...

i think he never needed to run in domestic cricket... mood vachinappudalla oka four padedhi... where is the need to run :D


Humpty_dumpty:


btw...congrats...DB post count, word count ...t20 run rate lo parigettisthunaav



:-( chala ekva ayipoyindhi db lo spend chese time


Filmbuff:


You are coming close...just a couple of small details away...



:-) inka emi thattatledhu naaku.. essay answer rasaanu kadha .. 8/10 marks eyyandi guruji :D
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Mental_sachinodu:

Third is the angle at which a ball is met. From a viewer perspective, the angle between the contact of the bat and ball, and the relative position of the batsmen makes for the image. Left handers might be at advantage here, because of the angles they can create, which seem completely different from a right hander to which we are more used to.




This is accurate.
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Mental_sachinodu:


.gangu is the most aesthetic off side player ani septhay saalu...janaal ardham chesukuntaar

btw...congrats...DB post count, word count ...t20 run rate lo parigettisthunaav
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Mental_sachinodu:




You are coming close...just a couple of small details away...
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oka laraa.... oka gillieee.... oka gangs of kolkata

leftiess.... they_are_no_1 icon
keka link:

fikileaks,
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For me individual shots are the one's that are beautiful, any player who can play with enough grace will appeal.

For Left handers, the right hand is the one doing most work, and for the right handers, left is the one doing more work. which ever is the stronger hand of the player dominates the style of the play.

I think there are three things that can make a shot look beautiful .


The most beautiful shot is probably the cover drive, lefties with powerful right hand, can play this aerial shot better, and looks more appealing, and most right handers hook or pull is more beautiful for the same reason.

The next closest thing is timing.. players who are better timers, make the shorts look effortless, and it follows a very natural rythm. seems like a dance movement.

Third is the angle at which a ball is met. From a viewer perspective, the angle between the contact of the bat and ball, and the relative position of the batsmen makes for the image. Left handers might be at advantage here, because of the angles they can create, which seem completely different from a right hander to which we are more used to.

Ofcourse, there are some batsmen who are the brad pitts and mahesh bobs of warald cricket in terms of style, who produce pure magic

I would gladly watch a Lara innings when is in song, than a sridevi song :D

nenu choodani generation lo or antha ga gurthu lenidhi gower, sobers etcetera ni theesthe

Lara, tharvaatha in no particular order Azzu bhai, VVS, saeed anwar, mark waugh, .. inka gurthu vasthe list edathaaan.
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Pipeline:




Even Sobers was not very attractive, it is said. As i wrote, Sobers, Border andari ugliness ki logic undhi...final answer lo cheptha....
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Filmbuff:

there are some left handers who are not elegant too,


Alan Border & Suresh Raina are the ugliest left handers I have seen so far.
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Not even one is close....there are some left handers who are not elegant too, daniki kooda reason undhi...

Am not talking about random players like Raina etc who don't have an ounce of elegance in their body...am talking about the greats...
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Whyme:

Nen ambi dexterous - aithey ippudu nenu semi elegant aa




zero elegance
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Look the the flick shot lefties play looks awkward comared to rigties elegance




agree, lefties offside drives elegant untai same is the case with righty flicks
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off spinners takkuva kabatti

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Nen ambi dexterous - aithey ippudu nenu semi elegant aa
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lefties thakkuva undatam valla ala anipisthundi.
minority licking ani BJP vallu cheppamannaru
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Why are left handers more elegant? - for cricket experts


south paw batesman under hand will be right hand while holding the bat which will actually generally generate more power ani science chebutundi.....right handers under hand will be left hand they actually can generate more power than lefties kaani brain lo chemical locha valana use cheyaru ani talk

dhoni is exception, dhoni fans common rechipondi inka
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Right handers chusi chusi ala anipistundi

Why left hand bolwers look awakward in most cases

Many be the angle at which they bowl

As most rigties bown to left at a comfortable aggle it looks elegant when they play

Look the the flick shot lefties play looks awkward comared to rigties elegance

So nothing special in left and right. it is in bowling angle and batsmen style of playing a shot
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Friday night question....correct ga cheppina vallaki next time Delhi lo free drinks...

Answer later in the day

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