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Mental_sachinodu
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classic movie.. best of even Kubricks ani cheppochu...


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attention seeking syndrome



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guys, Im travelling today so malli malli thread visit chese chances thakva.

Jawmetri,

My post was not about whether death penalty MUST be the punishment for rapists. The level of punishment for a particular crime is linked to the social and cultural view and its effects on the individual and society at large. Simple ga cheppaali ante, based on economic situations the amount of gold you can take along with you from foreign nations changes, and punishments for crossing the legal limit either in form of either fines or jail time vary. In this situation, the law and also the punishment changes based on perceived economical impacts or social impacts.

Same goes for other forms of crimes, and the way a society at large, and cultural value attached to a victim, the punishment changes. May be as we evolve into a society where we understand more about human nature, the punishments change.

Like I have posted in my earlier thread, I am against Death Penalty as it can be misused either intentionally or otherwise. There is no chance of backtracking on a done punishment, atleast with today's human capabilities. I feel that Rape should receive the harshest of punishments because of the psychotic nature of the act, and If death penalty is the one we as a society think is the harshest of all, so be it.

Now, I also said the punishments imposed are not just for the sake of rehabilitation of the perpetrator, but also to act as a deterrent to other weak minded individuals. Who knows how many Rapes are being prevented because of a harsher punishments? If penalty for crossing a red signal was 10$, would we be as careful as we are today? If penalty for crossing a red signal was few months jail time, wouldnt be more careful?

Its a choice between rehabilitating a perpetrator, giving a humane choice to the individual and societies inability to stop such crimes from happening so often,and its inability to help the victims rather than ostracize them, which one would we choose?

I agree the second one is a better choice, but a difficult one considering the amount of respect for the victim in today's world, and the insane number of such crimes happening.

Coming to the other dimension, when Rape was being compared to Murder, and saying murder is a crime that demands harsher punishment, i disagreed. I feel Rape is much more animalistic, brutal and Un-natural act. An act that not every human is capable of performing.

The mental ability to ignore the suffering and pain the victim is showing while in the act, and to overcome any sort of mental response and actually get pleasure of out of it, is something that requires a very psychotic nature. Granted some murders could technically be as brutal, and psychotic. In those cases I do not distinguish between the two acts.
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Jawmetri:


In that case, rather than having death penalty, society must be reformed. A society that ostracizes a rape victim is the one that is empowering the rapist.

The stigma of Rape must be addressed to help victims recover. Rape is worse that murder is an opinion




It is currently opinion of the society which the victim lives in and makes it very difficult for the victim to move on and lead a normal life after that...it is not just the trauma of the event , it is the ongoing trauma inflicted but society after the event...no other crime victim has to go thru that...

Society does not change overnight - and for the transition time you need strong deterrents...

And yes - I do agree there on the risk of miscarriage of justice and I am not a proponent of capital punishment in general..but I am saying is that the crime is on par with murder...till society undergoes a sea change in its perception of rape.

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Anandgaru,

In that case, rather than having death penalty, society must be reformed. A society that ostracizes a rape victim is the one that is empowering the rapist.

The stigma of Rape must be addressed to help victims recover. Rape is worse that murder is an opinion. But it is a fact that people don't survive murders. But people do survive rapes.Different people recover differently from the trauma of shame, humiliation, exploitation etc. Some are fine soon after ordeal, some commit suicide. Crimes that cause such trauma cannot have a blanket death penalty . Hence Rape cannot have death penalty.

If Rape can have death penalty, then we can build a case for death penalty to an unfaithful spouse too.
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Jawmetri:



So here's my take - as long as society in desam sees rape as a fate worse than death, somehow the fault of the victim ,the victim and the family faces social ostracism sometimes driving them to suicide rape needs to be punished on par with murder ....

When society is able to accept that rape is only another physical attack and there is no other stigma attached to the victim, then the punishment can be downgraded as well ..

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Anand_n:

Do you support death sentence for murder




There was a time I did for certain types of murder, now I'm ambivalent, solitary confinement is death sentence. Ambivalent only because there can be wrongful convictions.
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Kingaa_bongaa:

appativaraku death penalty continue cheddaaam



amri tax kattanollaki? and tax dabbulu sonta dabbulla vadukunetollaki?
murder chesinollaki jaillu sari potayi kaani pina janalaki saripovvu....

Veellani mass murder cheddam electricute Hilter laga annattu
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Triggerblaster:

Andaru sarigga katti sarigga use cheste saripotayi mama!! Inka yekkuva itayi!!


sare andharuu kattinappudu life sentence veyochule, appativaraku death penalty continue cheddaaam
Manaki Manam Kingu, Choosevallaki Bongu.
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Kingaa_bongaa:

tax payers money bokka



Andaru sarigga katti sarigga use cheste saripotayi mama!! Inka yekkuva itayi!!
"Chedda vallani support chese vallu chedda valla kante mundu M gudustaaru", Idi sapam kaadu brahma vakku
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Triggerblaster:

There is difference between this thought and a thought of a murdering a person



I mean there is no difference
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Kingaa_bongaa:

encounter cheyandi



There is difference between this thought and a thought of a murdering a person
"Chedda vallani support chese vallu chedda valla kante mundu M gudustaaru", Idi sapam kaadu brahma vakku
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theen emmaa prison endhi saaame tax payers money bokka, encounter cheyandi, courts time kooda save avthundhi.
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Jawmetri:



Do you support death sentence for murder ?

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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{Jawmetri,Death Penalty - Rape}
I think Death Penalty even for murder is not right !!
I'm sure there are more smarter people than me in that area, all I want is what ever may be the punishment do not spare anyone( rich or poor, strong or weak)
"Chedda vallani support chese vallu chedda valla kante mundu M gudustaaru", Idi sapam kaadu brahma vakku
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Giving a prison sentence is enough to scare. Like this many other things are there for which to give maximum scare we can give death sentence.
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Are u a girl or are u speaking for the girls? Why will girls get angry, girls will be upset if death penalty is not given?
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2 days back thread kadaa, enduku radham muggu vestunnaaru. season kooda kaade.

old thread link iste easy ga vundedi.

idigo ee pavithra bandham post chooste ee ammayi ki anna kopam vastadi. ee post ki aa na comment.

>>>>It will have a horrible impact but if girls can be given a strong support system, like a government job or counseling for recovering, they will recover better from the crime. While the rapist will be languishing in jail without freedom getting frustrated at what he did in a moment of mindlessness.

We have a girls shortage in our country, their status in this women empowerment age is definitely better. There are many white knight rescuer type boys who will marry them. >>>>


death penalty ok na kaada ane daani meeda nenu comment cheyyaledu/alochinchaledu kooda. but, evadanna ammayi meeda cheyyi veyyaalante bhayapadaali. adi death penalty to possible ante, naaku ok.


ika radham muggu veyyatam aapesi, race gurram choosi randi. kaasepu timepass
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Will get back on this later today. Urumi was blasting the people who are not supporting death for rape.
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endulooo..... assale confusion gaa undi... endulo tappuledo detailed gaa ettu... naa translation lo tappu ledaa.... m_S post lo tappuleda leka urumi comment lo tappu leda or aaa post ni eee context lo jawmetri eyyadam lo tapppu ledaa... naaku teliyali teliyali teliyali


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choosava? cooollll gaa vuntadi kada movie


Kubricks' best work andharu 2001 or shinning antaaru gain for me this was his best movie along with full metal jacket
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endulooo..... assale confusion gaa undi... endulo tappuledo detailed gaa ettu... naa translation lo tappu ledaa.... m_S post lo tappuleda leka urumi comment lo tappu leda or aaa post ni eee context lo jawmetri eyyadam lo tapppu ledaa... naaku teliyali teliyali teliyali
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Thikka_sankara:

bushu post is relatively easy.... M_S thatha goru cheppindi enti ante... hatya anedi after effect while rape is a process.... hatya chesthe neram... just bullet kidneylo digithe case ledu....



Jawmetri:

attention seeking syndrome ekkuvavutunnattundi kontamandi janaalaki....disgusting posts


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A clockwork orange


choosava? cooollll gaa vuntadi kada movie
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rendu posts lo artham emi?


bushu post is relatively easy.... M_S thatha goru cheppindi enti ante... hatya anedi after effect while rape is a process.... hatya chesthe neram... just bullet kidneylo digithe case ledu....
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M_S kurradi post A clockwork orange in text la vundi
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rendu posts lo artham emi?
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ante Bushu and M_S ki attention seeking syndrome undi anaa mee meaning of mangalagiri :D
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Bushu:

a life is not physical existence - it's a sense of living with a dignity and a purpose. rape, slavery, untouchability - all of them abuse a human soul's existence and reduce it to its mere physicality. I am sure we are all better than that.





Mental_sachinodu:

this warranted another post by itself. andhuke indhaaka post lo add seyyaledhu.

Rape and Murder are not the same as in, Rape is an act, while Murder is an effect.

The act of shoving a knife, who lead to the death of a person or it might not, and the punishment changes based on the effect, but the act, and the emotion or psychological state between them is indistinguishable.

While Rape is the act itself, and the act is as much more violent and psychotic in nature. Just comapring the acts, the person who performs it, and our interest here, is committing an act which is against societal rules.

Punishments often are based on effect of an action, but when considering a punishment, the perpetrators need that is being satisfied needs to play an important role in the punishment, and it also indicates whether the perpetrator can be rehabilitated, as we think the punishment apart from being a deterrent is not a Revenge.





Urumi:

attention seeking syndrome ekkuvavutunnattundi kontamandi janaalaki....disgusting posts




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