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Jalsa
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got it, thanks.
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Feelgud:

these are only companies in top 100 i can think of which can protect ur money and if things well can give 10-15% returns ..


Thanks boss! Enough Q/A :-)
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~chirutha~:

And abt 20% returns (20/2% tax savings, expecting 10% growth), no I am not sure. I am asking you for suggestion



itc
hdfc bank
sun phrama
hul
nestle india
dabur india
induind
these are only companies in top 100 i can think of which can protect ur money and if things well can give 10-15% returns ..
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Feelgud:

but are you first time investor into stocks ?. this scheme works for only time..


Yes, first time investor.
And abt 20% returns (20/2% tax savings, expecting 10% growth), no I am not sure. I am asking you for suggestion :-)
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~chirutha~:

Right
What abt a normal guy who is happy to get 20% returns in one year. 10% from tax benifits and 10% (as you said low growth?). Could that average guy take this scheme?




if you are sure about about 20% returns in the above stocks ..yes pls go ahead ( i can only think of hdfc bank).. but are you first time investor into stocks ?. this scheme works for only time..
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Feelgud:

if i am in your in situation just for the sake of tax savings i don't invest these stocks.. rather i choose high growth stocks which can beat both tax savings+ returns of the above low growth stocks


Right :-)
What abt a normal guy who is happy to get 20% returns in one year. 10% from tax benifits and 10% (as you said low growth?). Could that average guy take this scheme?
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~chirutha~:

Ok. Thats the reason I have requested to have a look into those listed stocks at hindsight in that link and give me a suggestion



BSE 100 Index Scrips
PSU Maharatnas
PSU Navratnas
PSU Miniratnas
if i am in your in situation just for the sake of tax savings i don't invest these stocks.. rather i choose high growth stocks which can beat both tax savings+ returns of the above low growth stocks
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Feelgud:

when it was introduced there is a restriction that u need to choose some selected stocks only..


Yes, there is a restriction still. But it spans many stocks. Complete list here @ http://www.bseindia.com/rgess/eligible_securities.htm

Feelgud:

if that restriction is still there that is not good


Ok. Thats the reason I have requested to have a look into those listed stocks at hindsight in that link and give me a suggestion :-)
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~chirutha~:

Hi, Thanks for the info
I have a request. Could you pls suggest if Rajiv Gandhi Equity Saving Scheme is a good entry point as it saves some tax. If Yes, could you pls throw some light on what are better investment options in that scheme.

Here's short help abt that scheme abt it if you are not aware - http://www.bseindia.com/rgess/rgessbenefits.htm




good for the first time investors only.. when it was introduced there is a restriction that u need to choose some selected stocks only.. if that restriction is still there that is not good
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Feelgud:


Hi, Thanks for the info
I have a request. Could you pls suggest if Rajiv Gandhi Equity Saving Scheme is a good entry point as it saves some tax. If Yes, could you pls throw some light on what are better investment options in that scheme.

Here's short help abt that scheme abt it if you are not aware - http://www.bseindia.com/rgess/rgessbenefits.htm
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Dada:

Great info..Thanks.
Equitymaster is also good plus the articles by Ajit Dayal (if you are a conservative investor)




he is good ..that is why he is able to maintain that site for so longs.. but i dont like his stock recommendations that does not fit my criteria
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Feelgud:


Hi, Thanks for the info
I have a request. Could you pls suggest if Rajiv Gandhi Equity Saving Scheme is a good entry point as it saves some tax. If Yes, could you pls throw some light on what are better investment options in that scheme.

Here's short help abt that scheme abt it if you are not aware - http://www.bseindia.com/rgess/rgessbenefits.htm
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Feelgud:




Great info..Thanks.
Equitymaster is also good plus the articles by Ajit Dayal (if you are a conservative investor)
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Really good info
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nice
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Jalsa
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Excellent, thanks.
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I gave long reply to one of the DB member just now .. This might help others as well just sharing for information ..
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let me give brief introduction about my stocks journey . I have started this some where around 2004 with NTPC IPO by taking icici personal loan of 2 lakhs , with very limited knowledge on stocks. I used to read moneycontrol , capital market , and some other sites i think i even tried equitymaster tips . started believing the tips they give . soon i made that 2 lakhs to 4 lakhs .. and within no time that 4 lakhs became 4,000 rs ( yes four thousand rs) .. The big and costly lesson i have learned is "stop believing on the tips and don't invest with borrowed conviction on stocks" and i have moved away from the stocks market and during that time i got usa onsite opportunity ..

I have been keep on thinking about how to identify the stocks and how to develop my own conviction on stocks and all .. i have searched for rakesh junjunwala PF in google that pointed to me to the site http://theequitydesk.com/ during 2007 .. That site helped me to gain knowledge on how to identify the stocks of high grow opportunities ..i highly recommend you to start reading content http://theequitydesk.com/forum/ .. dont join basant corner at this point of time that is paid service like equitymaster ..you can join that if you want once you develope you own conviction on stocks ..

1) read the books one up on wall street by peter lynch and annual letters of warren buffet .. no financial knowledge required to understand those .. these books and lot of other books helped me ..

2) basant written great book on indian stock market . I highly respect him .. read that book also http://www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in/

3) I also look at http://www.valuepickr.com/ http://www.safalniveshak.com/

last but not least , though i read lot of stuff i dont invest unless r until i understand the company business completely .. This is how i personal analyze the stock..

1) look at the management integrity and their track record of business scalability ... i dont mind even if the business is mediocre .. look at page , gruh just one underwear company and small token house finance company .. just because of the management strategies they made me( investors) big ..

2) look at the their balance sheet .. look at the top line and bottom line .for me topline ( total revenues/sales ) growth is more important than bottom line ( total profit ) ..if that is not able increase their top line consequently for couple of quarters that is sell signals for me .. i don't mind about bottom line ( profit) that much .. that will catch soon with the growth of of top line

there are lot of other stuff.. but i mainly see the above things .. hope that helps ..
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