| Author | Message | ||
     Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 15277 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 72.177.241.31 Rating: N/A |
This only happens in waterfall projects - Agile does not need extensive documentation of requirements - only document at a story level - but offshoring needs the requirements documentation to be firm  Agile to be successful has to minimize hand-offs , offshoring works on hand-offs - so while we can say projects based on agile work , but to get the true benefit of agile you have to have co-located teams - or outsource whole features to offshore -that requires business presence offshore - which is not feasible for most customers - everything else is just a compromise(wannabe agile)The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Thikka_sankara Side Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 9732 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.223.87 Rating: N/A |
my teamsize has never crossed 15, and was as low as 3. And in past one to one and half year, delivered two major projects based on agile methodology (based on)..... ofcourse I'm not the managing manager  , but crucial part of it! In general, my perception is, if the requirements of a project are pretty clearly drawn out (not necessarily finalized, just they need to be clear as they emerge), then offshore does pretty good job.... so, blame the onsite requirements analysts and managers who manage them keka link: fikileaks, inko keka link kanta tadi, | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3511 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
Some tendencies like the following have serious effects on the productivity of offshore. Unless there is a offshore leadership monitoring, these tendencies cut into productivity . Late Mornings Long Lunch breaks Afternoon post lunch relax mode until 4 PM Long Multiple Tea Breaks 1-2 Hrs of Games in the Middle Participation in multiple HR activities In offshore, people come late to Office, and start pinging onsite when it is bedtime. And then when you sleep, offshore is eagerly waiting for you to wake up. While I understand this comes with the territory. Hours later in the night and Hours early in the morning + You also have hrs in the office working on your own deliverables plus managing an onsite team and sitting in client meetings makes takes your life hostage. Having an offshore PM who is in the role of Daddy/Mummy really helps. And these devs are resentful of offshore leadership that doesnt code, that is a whole different issue. The issue is offshore conditioning, they must be given conditioning on their roles and responsibilities . So many times I see onsite people feeling guilty of troubling offshore teams to stretch but vice versa is not to the same extent. Prevailing feeling among offshore is that being onsite is a great privilege and they must be squeezed to the max without sensitivity. I must disclose that I work onsite and offshore equally. There are talented offshore guys for sure, but in general, the teams dont have a work culture that makes for a smooth onsite-offshore dev system. It is also true that there are onsite managers who cause trouble because they cant manage client expectations and offshore capabilities effectively. Main reason being that they have a client in their face all the time. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 15270 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.182.148.249 Rating: N/A |
This is true - but the need to work those hours also comes from technical constraints , speed of systems, lack of proper training/knowledge transition, lack of exposure to the business discussions - half of business insight is lost in transmission from onsite to offshore - so they end up performing listed tasks instead of getting the chance to brainstorm and propose solutions - takes the fun out of software development work atlease people who are in it for the problem-solving aspect like me I mentor another PM and she was here in a panic yesterday because her offshore was yo-yoing on timelines - a little digging brought to light a different problem - they placed a guy who is good at communicating onsite - but the guy does not have enough technical expertise to relay work effectively to offshore - but the perception is offshore is not performing Long running waterfall projects ki offshoring is extremely successful- have had offshore teams with 75+ people on a project- - quick turnarounds/small teams ki definitely not what I recommend - atleast not when all the domain expertise and business is onsite The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9579 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
yeah.Prathi daaniki 'self defence' type lo yeddo cheppevallu modatlo.Kaani, ippudu aa issue kudaa ledu."Adigina daaniki answer cheyyandi chaalu.naaku questions vunte malli aduguthaa" ani cheppe vaadini.'naa manager miku call chesina point to point cheppandi.viparithamaina info vadhu" ani.Now, they are good on that part. | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8792 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.160.83 Rating: N/A |
 | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8791 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.160.83 Rating: N/A |
same on the other side kooda untundemo kada.. atleast US lo unde vallaki konni material comforts aina untayi like transportation etc.. manchi internet connection to work from home.. ade india lo undi US valla tho communicate cheyyalante many prefer to stay late in office | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9578 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
Actualgaa, written skills are at par with any american employee.Spooken skills ye bad.Documentation baagaa chesthunnaaru.Ye technology ayina chaalaa quick gaa nerchukontunnaaru. | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 19504 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2 Rating: N/A |
argentina kurrollu language problem kani kummestaru coding | ||
| Rebel Hero Username: Rebel Post Number: 11247 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 159.45.71.13 Rating: N/A |
perfecto...adigina simple Q answer cheyyakunda chaata bharatam antha cheptaru...i noticed this in desis working in US as well..basically mana genes lo undemo | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9577 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
MBAs ni thisukontaaru ani vinnaanu kaai, IT lo inthavaraku maa company lo yilaa yeppudu thsiukoledu. Mi recruiters baaga fileter chesi thsiukosthunnaremo?? | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9575 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.194.10 Rating: N/A |
Naadi kudaa same openion.. | ||
| Lichtenberg Junior Artist Username: Lichtenberg Post Number: 592 Registered: 08-2013 Posted From: 162.115.108.103 Rating: |
meeru iche bokkalo rates ki russian hackers kaavaalaa....ellandehe | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 15268 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.182.148.249 Rating: N/A |
Maaku regular stream college hires - have never been disappointed with the quality of people that come in - but maybe our recruiters do a good job of selecting the guys 4- 5 weeks hand holding to get them familiar with the processes/domain and then they are independent The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Diviseema Hero Username: Diviseema Post Number: 18707 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 103.16.14.76 Rating: N/A |
enni thippalu aa $ kosamega mav. daanni ela vadilesthadu. ardham chesukoovoooo. jacket meeda mahesh, chokka meeda balayya Gundello NTR Naranarallo Paritala | ||
| Nanigadu Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 12003 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 32.97.110.59 Rating: N/A |
@HD,Mav,Jawemtri: agreed, manamantha DB alagey chesthamani generalize cheyyaledu gaa nenu, work vunnappudu 2 weeks ki kuda DB ki rani vallam vunnamm, but what i mean is india lo vunna vallu daily crunch time laa work chestaru, manam appudappudu chestham may be once in every 2 months before product release etc.. | ||
| Biriyani Hero Username: Biriyani Post Number: 11353 Registered: 03-2012 Posted From: 171.159.192.10 Rating: N/A |
ikkada fresh graduates nu interview chesaa long back..oka 10 mandini..andulo 7-8 memebrs desi ye... no basic knowledge...surprisingly even communication skills were very bad.. final ga maa mgr offshore vallanu iddarni theesukunnadu...valla communication bad ayina...effort and output lo they excelled... ps: interiew chesi candidates nu select chesentha bit naaku ledu..mgr lazy..so attantivi naaku chepthadu | ||
| Thikka_sankara Side Hero Username: Thikka_sankara Post Number: 9731 Registered: 02-2012 Posted From: 122.164.235.45 Rating: N/A |
lol keka link: fikileaks, inko keka link kanta tadi, | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48996 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.183 Rating: N/A |
db is just a window on computer where u look and post in case of u r waiting in between tasks..emanna builds avi chese time lo dorike konchem time post chestam..ade pani ga db window open chesi work anta evvaru aapeyyaru | ||
| Cool_indian Comedian Username: Cool_indian Post Number: 1559 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 157.93.242.50 Rating: N/A |
Just so I know what is the career progression for developers in India ? Janalni promote cheyyadaniki they create unnnecessary hierarchies. Confusion between PM and tech lead. | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 25275 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
exactly ikkada dikki comumute kee inka vaasipothundhee during crunch deadlines i am up from 5 am working on my stuff as well as co-ord with them enduku antay appice kee vachaaka kooda till 12pm or so i m stuck with them | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 25274 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
it depends annai naaku durada kaani what is observed is responsibilities perigay kodhi or change ayyay kodhi..we tend to be away from DBing i am going to ask for one of those desks where i can change table ht to stand and work just to spend couple of hrs doing appice work and not dbing/personal stuff | ||
| Nordic Junior Artist Username: Nordic Post Number: 119 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 66.90.101.228 Rating: N/A |
India lo job creation lenantha varak ee offshore torture thappadu | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3508 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
I know many who work day and night if they have to work with offshore team. The life of Onsite in USA that has to work with an offshore in India is worst. Especially if there is not management layer in india. | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3507 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
 Uncle Sam is Anna Daatha to all. | ||
| Sukumarudu Junior Artist Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 615 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
Career lo gap vasthundane bhayam baga ventaduthuntadi manalloki.. edina new try cheddamante akkada bhayapadi potharu.. HRs kuda anthe ikkada year gap enti em chesavu.. startup try chesa ante nammaru..  sad state yaa.. | ||
| Sukumarudu Junior Artist Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 614 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
ma relative case lo.. ayana US returned kaadu. unna job odulukoni excellent product undani start chesadu.. 2 years lo lageddam anukunnadu basic version ni.. marketting kuda prallel ga start chesi customers ni kondarini line lo kuda pettadu using contacts. antha sariga authondanna time lo .. ee goram.. papam levakuda debba tinnadu. savings anni ush kaaki. ya 1st idea lo laga stock options ichi undalsindi. he is new to these things technicals tappa ee skills lacking anukunta. | ||
| Nanigadu Hero Username: Nanigadu Post Number: 12001 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 32.97.110.59 Rating: N/A |
@Rajusk: plus meeru dollaran dollaran..memu rupailu..so memu mee laaga enduku kashta padali etc ani ane vallanu kooda choosan to be frank, generalize cheyyatledu, but mana DB ne teeesukondi, entha mandi manam day and night kasthapadutunnam compare to offshore, valla timings manakuntey chacchey vallam emo, iddarilo work hard evarantey mathrahm hands down offshore valle | ||
| Heineken Comedian Username: Heineken Post Number: 1313 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.108.117.250 Rating: N/A |
india lo bondlu gatra rayinchukuntaru kada specially for freshers. 27 EROS TFI Pride Sharabha Sharabha | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8784 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.160.83 Rating: N/A |
India lo startups lo +ves -ves rendu untayi. kontha mandi US returns manchi tech background unnollu petti professional ga run ayye vatini choosanu.. veetillo freshers ni antha ekkuva teesukoru except from top colleges.. kani stocks istaru. + employee benefits baguntayi.. mostly product based ivi. 2nd category vachi edo chinna service based ga start chestaru with only profit motive. akkado ikkado rendu projects ni techi freshers ni pettukoni laagistaru. stocks sangati devudu erugu.. jeetale time ki raavu. indulo join aina vallu eppudeppudu dobbeddama konchem high sal ki annatlu untaru. I am not drawing any parallels about ur relative's case. kani nenu choosinavi ee two types | ||
| Heineken Comedian Username: Heineken Post Number: 1312 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.108.117.250 Rating: N/A |
never do this unless instructed by your manager. specially na case lo a big no coz im contractor mentoring a FTE and tellodu. 27 EROS TFI Pride Sharabha Sharabha | ||
| Sarvabhouma_rao Side Hero Username: Sarvabhouma_rao Post Number: 7242 Registered: 04-2011 Posted From: 199.248.185.22 Rating: N/A |
India loo call HOLD loki velithee idi automatic gaa vasthundi. Ikkada emi sound raadhu. Conference ki login ayinaa phone ki inkodu call chesthee, ee call hold loo petti aa call ki login ayithee automatic gaa ee message vasthundi. Ikkda laa kadhu. So athanu mute cheyadaniki emi vundadhu. conference call disconnect chesthe tappa adi podhu. Sadaru vyakthi Sarvabhouma_rao Appatlo Paga_Babai_Paga | ||
| Whyme Side Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 6847 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 107.214.64.27 Rating: N/A |
Ask him to code something with you sitting and watching.. Ilanti candidates pedda orgs lo vuntaaru they are called architects | ||
| Sukumarudu Junior Artist Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 612 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
ma relative okaru startup petti..budget lo vasthrani 3 freshers tesukoni ni baaga train chesaka... info, cts lo job vachindani denkesaru.. 1.5 yr lone company musukonnodu. india lo commitment, dedication and opika undadu pillalaki.. andariki pedda buildings lo unde copmanies ae kavali. potta cheelisthe mukka raadu.. class ante cheppeleni CS grads ni chusam.. | ||
| Heineken Comedian Username: Heineken Post Number: 1311 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.108.117.250 Rating: N/A |
last 2 weeks ga oka medhavi to deal chestunna. 3+ xperience. tellodu. pedda racist nakoduku anipinchindi.emina ante .net , java rendu ochu antadu matalu kotalu datistadu pani chai ra ante okka mukka radhu. machuki konni animutyalu 1) websphere ante teliyadu, EAR ante teliyadu, join ina 2nd day ochi what ever you are doing is not efficient way of doing things annadu. 2) dora ki object instantiate ki method call ki difference teliyadu. 3) starting lo javascript meeda pani chestunte nenu 2012 lo ne JS meeda panicheyyadam apesa Jquery lo topu annadu, 2 days back Jquery related cheyyalsi osthe naku jquery radhu nenu JS lo topu annadu. 4) ochi basics adugutadu, mottam xplain chesaka , ya i know this , i forgot i did it a while back antadu. 5) Eclipse use chesa RAD use cheyyadam radhu antadu. 6) adina working example pampinchi, deeni replicate chesuko ra pani chestadi ante chusi copy kottadam radhu ochi nee code panicheyyatledhu na danlo antadu. 27 EROS TFI Pride Sharabha Sharabha | ||
| Mental_sachinodu Hero Username: Mental_sachinodu Post Number: 12964 Registered: 10-2008 Posted From: 208.85.131.68 Rating: N/A |
working russian offshore team.. saana sharp untaaru.. it takes sometime for them to grasp the business logic due to language... work ethic among most of them is awesome.. kontha mandhi ayithe, vaalu padukoru,nannu padukonivvaru, even if the issue is minor. are ayya... nenu ere dhaani lo bz ga unna, its a minor thing, ani septhe, when can i get back to you ani, karesht ga time ki message vasthaahi, so how to proceed ani... nenu worked with a hyd team for testing purposes... awesome experience. perfect documentation, profession approach. theliyani vishayam clear ga cheppi, time theesukoni, thelsukoni malli discussion. it was wonderful. but it was limited time thing, mundhu ninche predefined contract period. the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada | ||
| Andhrawala Megastar Username: Andhrawala Post Number: 29416 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 152.51.56.1 Rating: N/A |
OK. see Jeevi. He was an IT Professional liek many of us. studied from BITS Pilani Then worked in Wipro for couple of years But movies passion kabatti he established IB.com and today he is going great guns No Signature | ||
| Whyme Side Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 6846 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 107.214.64.27 Rating: N/A |
LOL.. this is also true.. | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9574 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10 Rating: N/A |
| ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29726 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
you nailed it.. vallaki old age lo pension plus manalanti vollatho tension undedi.. manaki pension undadu..pillal mana mata etu tirigi vinaru kabatti aa tension kooda undadu so we are screwed generation..from both sides. | ||
| Sukumarudu Junior Artist Username: Sukumarudu Post Number: 611 Registered: 12-2013 Posted From: 128.177.42.2 Rating: N/A |
Common passion unna unkles andaru kalisi edina cheyandayya. mee millions ni RE ki kakunda mee passisonloki pumping seyandi.. VC, entrepreneurs kandi.. | ||
| Whyme Side Hero Username: Whyme Post Number: 6845 Registered: 09-2009 Posted From: 107.214.64.27 Rating: N/A |
lol.. true | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 14285 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.24 Rating: N/A |
mana farents laage manamunu... survival kosam dead end govt jobs sesi allu life gadipesaru most of us same system US ki export sesukunnam.. older generations - office kelli sign ettesi tea bandies kada disco esthe manam dbs lo jeri sollu esthunnam.. | ||
| Simhapuri_kurrodu Side Hero Username: Simhapuri_kurrodu Post Number: 5286 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 205.157.110.11 Rating: N/A |
all of those thurums are in US only, no? on a side note, naa friends lo ekkuva achieve chesina vallu almost andaru India lo vunnaru | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8782 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.160.83 Rating: N/A |
passion is different to hobby. cinemalu ekkuva choodatam ishtam aithe cinema field lo career plan chesukovalani em ledu. | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9572 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
Idi wrong comparison.Razesh ki adoka career.Manaku mana jobs vunnaayi.Kaabtti, manam cinemalu thiyyalani ledu.kaani Razesh andulone brathuku theruvu chusukovaali.manam cricket chusthunnamu ante andaram players avvaali ani kaadu.Adoka interest .anthe. | ||
| Telugu_times Moderator Username: Telugu_times Post Number: 42689 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
McDonalds lo, 1 dollar burger untadhi. 3.99 burger untadhi. Paisal ivvanappudu, same quality endhukosthadhi? India lo kooda, thopu thurums bocchedu untaaru. vaallu High paying jobs ki pothaar adhannamaata ignore spam and ignore Indian politics for a while. | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29725 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
antha ledu....goda gully lo...kooda 6 ki velthe..variety gaane soosthar | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29724 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
idi matram correct | ||
| Reentry Side Hero Username: Reentry Post Number: 2586 Registered: 06-2009 Posted From: 65.198.163.148 Rating: N/A |
Offshore is like anna daatha to Onsite The amount of hours they work.. especially the odd hours they have to work to support US/UK clients is commendable maaku bangalore lo offshore team undhi.. they attend conference calls at 11 AM CST which is 10:30 PM .. Bangalore lo aa traffic ki commute chesi mallee VPN lo conference all ante choodandi... | ||
| Simhapuri_kurrodu Side Hero Username: Simhapuri_kurrodu Post Number: 5285 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 205.157.110.11 Rating: N/A |
yep, akkada evening 6 ki off nunchi velte its like a crime. ikkada 6-7 tarvata stay cheste its like stupidity | ||
| Humpty_dumpty Moderator Username: Humpty_dumpty Post Number: 25272 Registered: 02-2009 Rating: N/A |
we have a huge office in mumbai but general hiring process lo HR has this directive to hire from top colleges only ...so that leaves out some aspirants (kulfli kaleej humpty interviewing NIT...very much possible ) roles will be for jnr devs so manaki kavaalsindhee basics saringaa ravatam, and wallaki wachu anna tech meedhay Qs adagatam hire ayyaka nersukuntaar...sanse ledh anna samasya ledh till date but diff personalities laid back guy who can do it all when given the directions youthest joshest uth...who are trigger happy...have to be constantly put in speed check mode exp guy who takes a lead and has bigger career aspirations waadu naa taruvaatha join ayyadu waadiki promo ichi idhariki same tag ani set yetta ani adigay gerals mundhu manalnee baaga pindi, ippudu babu nee module effect awudhee emo test seyyi chinna help antay maa mgr nee adagaali ani seppay kurrol ilaaa boled | ||
| Andhrawala Megastar Username: Andhrawala Post Number: 29412 Registered: 03-2008 Posted From: 152.51.56.1 Rating: N/A |
nijam seppalante passion koodaa vundakapovacchu manaki cinema picchi vundhi alaa ani oka Razesh laaga cinema theeyalemu. oka AP laaga whole USA bomma distribute seyalemu ilaa endharo vuntaaru No Signature | ||
| Getafix Hero Username: Getafix Post Number: 14284 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 151.151.109.24 Rating: N/A |
bad apples are everywhere..but one thing i have to give to offshore ppl - kaaya kastam chesthar for the money they get paid.. Onsite lo recruit avthunna new desi grads athi telivi.. atu pani jeyyaru itu paisal ki comprimise kaaru.. | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9571 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.192.10 Rating: N/A |
idi kudaa lead/manager ni batti vuntundi yemo.Naaku viparithamaina exposure ledu 'offshore tema' mida. Kaaani, naakunna limited expeirence ni batti chusthe, vallu chaalaa confident gaa vuntaaru.communication issues vuntaayi.Kaani, work cheyinchuvadame naa traget. telugu, Tamil, english kalipesi aduguthaanu..writeen skills baaguntaayi.spoken skills are not up to mark. Kaani work performance ki ademi ibbandi gaa anipinchadam ledu. | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 45424 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
1. their resumes look much cleaner. manollu resume ni keywords tho nimpestaaru 2. they explain their career journey in a better way. our guys jump into the technical details quickly fundamentally, we are more money-oriented (including me). we want to make quick money. The only reason we look for FT is either for H1 or if we are stuck in a place due to school going kids. | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8781 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 103.245.47.20 Rating: N/A |
General ga offshore lo same project lo 3-4 yrs unde vallu takkuva. unnaru ante vaallu managerial roles ki shift aipoyina vallu.. coders takkuva. so obvious ga avatali side ninchi emaina qns adigite answers antha confidnet ga cheppaleru even though they have good experience in overall career. ee bhayam/hesitation general desi tendency anukunta.. | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9570 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
ledu.Actual gaa 4 years back nenu yi team loki vachanau.Migilina vallu andaru(out 12 members) 8 to 15 years experience vallu. | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 15267 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.182.148.249 Rating: N/A |
Meeku college hire program leda - maaku every year interns and college hires vastaru - keeps the team energy, enthusiasm and quality levels up I feelAnd it pushes the older guys to keep their skills sharp too..The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9569 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
avunu. Idi kudaa antunnaaru  .kaani India lo kudaa jobs antha thondaraga raavdam ledu anta intha thakkuva experience valalki.Adokkate relief.. | ||
| Cool_indian Comedian Username: Cool_indian Post Number: 1557 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 157.93.242.50 Rating: N/A |
Most of the issues are due to middle management. These team leads or middle managers dont groom the developers to get them a business sense of things they support. I tried to have a BA onsite so that he can explain the business side of the requirements. Veedu kooda code loki velli, idi change cheyyu ani offsite ki chepthadu. Offsite batch will never understand the real benefits other than Action A + Action B leads to Result C Previously and now it is Action A + Action B leads to Result D Nothing more and nothing less | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9568 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
I agree. Maa team (including me) kante kudaa India lo chese team chaalaa thondaragaa grasp chesthunnaaru."Yi rakam gaa ikkadi vallu cheshte yi team lo sagam mandi chaalu" anukontaanu nenu.Sagam mandi ikkada yedo alaa laagincheyyadame.churukudanam thakkuva.. Oka vela adi technology ni batti vuntundi yemo.I am very happy with the team I work with.. | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29722 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
inko 6 months lo andaru jump kodtharu..ready gaa undandi | ||
| Ustad Hero Username: Ustad Post Number: 16135 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 98.148.138.174 Rating: N/A |
Contractor ayi undi kuda interviews, candidate selection  The only disability in life is a bad attitude - Scott Hamilton | ||
| Kalikaalam Side Hero Username: Kalikaalam Post Number: 9567 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 171.159.64.10 Rating: N/A |
Yemo. India lo oka testing team chesthundi maaku. SAS reports vallaku pampisthe, vaallu test chesi results ni back pampishtaaru.Kurrollu kathi, kataaru ayyaru just 1 year lo. First lo "villa tho yelaa cheyinchukovaali ?/" anipinchedi.Kaani, one year lopulo andaru atu tersting lonu, itu SAS lonu kudaa'highly dependable' gaa transform ayyaaru. | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8780 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 106.51.160.83 Rating: N/A |
offshore work environment is different to onsite so is the expectations. talent anedi generalize cheyyalem. nenu 1st onsite vachinappudu akkada samvatsarala ninchi patukunna candidates chusi noru ellabettalsi vachindi. asalu veellu ela survive avutunnara ani.. desam lo undi memu onsite junta antha topu turumu.. finger tips meeda coding chesestaru anukune vallam. alantidi function declaration ki definition ki difference kooda teda teleeni uddanDa panditulni choosanu. | ||
| Heineken Comedian Username: Heineken Post Number: 1310 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.108.117.250 Rating: N/A |
how did you come to this conclusion. koncham detailed ga analyze chesi cheppochu kada. 27 EROS TFI Pride Sharabha Sharabha | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 45422 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 168.244.164.254 Rating: N/A |
i have been interviewing candidates for FT. 80% resumes manollave ochaayi. Tamilians oka 20% what i observed is, manollu contractors ki baa set avutaaru. aravollu FT ki baga set avutaaru | ||
| Anand_n Hero Username: Anand_n Post Number: 15266 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.182.148.249 Rating: N/A |
I have some wonderful onsite developers from these companies, I have had wonderful test leads onsite too - we are somewhat insulated from offshore by the onsite leads but I have heard my fulltimers complain about the quality, the lack of standards in coding and the bandaids that offshore tends to put in .. And watching my son go thru first year in Computer science here , I see the difference.. the amount of coding and design he had under is belt in the first semester was a surprise- so obviously Comp sci geads here come out with a much higher level of technical expertise and have little patience for bad coding. For offshore - the learning happen''s ont he client project - and while offshore tells us they supplement with extra hours - its still takes a toll ont he project..in addition offshore is handicapped by extremely slow response times ...yeah you get 1/4 productivity t the 1/3 price but its duu to a lot os factors 100 percent onsite teams are actually more cost efficient,especially of you are running agile The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3506 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
There are also cases where Offshores once settled in the US, tank in performance. | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48994 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 141.0.11.29 Rating: N/A |
oka better candidate dorikadu finally..picked | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3505 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
I understand where u are coming from and I have seen many cases. But this totally depends. | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3504 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
Bro, you might be one of the productive offshores. Dont give a get out of jail free card to the rest of the gang. US lo wastes might be there but in general, they are more skillful in multitasking and taking ownership of tasks until resolution. It is just a difference in work culture and expectations between being onsite and offshore. | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 19491 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2 Rating: N/A |
but i woudl prefer a fresh grad from US.. woudl be much better than 10 years offsore ani na uddesam | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 19490 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2 Rating: N/A |
telent programming skills too good no doubt about it... basic things def nerchukunte andariki manchidhi ani na uddesam | ||
| Vjawarrior Junior Artist Username: Vjawarrior Post Number: 971 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 71.228.237.119 Rating: N/A |
off shore people lo oka range talented people untaaru......maree teesi pareyaku... | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3503 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
thanks. so simply put but tells the truth. It is just like our exams, no studying until exam time. To a large extent , agile approachs have improved offshore productivity.Offshores absolutely loathe Agile. | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 19488 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2 Rating: N/A |
I'm allways proud..db admins seniors leads mottam desi untaru i feel very happy...but elati time lo chala embarrassing ga untadhi when they do silly mistakes ... | ||
| Ravino786 Hero Username: Ravino786 Post Number: 19487 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 199.4.21.2 Rating: N/A |
Few times TCS wallatho we are in conference... manaki ekakda sat sun around 6-10 am ante wallaki 4 - 10 pm...few are in office and couple at home.., eakdka client manager, creative managers online lo untaru ... simple question...how much time it will take to wrap this up small issue which tcs guy need to be fixed...TCS mostly venkat/sri can say 2 hours or by EOD or 3 hours and can call back...instead they confuse explaining what they are doing to fix.., query, database, network, app ani wadiki telisna information antha cheptaru..which is not needed all they want is time to call back..., and conference lo untam wadiki edanna call wasthe wadu hold lo pedatadu telling his collegue is callign which is fine ...hold lo pettinapudu maku ekakda aap jis vakthi se sampark karre wo dusri line me hai ani messages ..severa times managers babu mute lo pettu ani cheppina manollu vinaru.. work quality pakkana pedithe basic communication is def lacking ee area lo tainign ivvali even seniors ki | ||
| Saint Megastar Username: Saint Post Number: 28892 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 68.13.100.193 Rating: N/A |
But alanti Cts lo kontha mandi kiraak candidates vuntaru.. Valku within no time onsite kochestharu like banam annattu.. Few of my CTS frens super | ||
| Saint Megastar Username: Saint Post Number: 28891 Registered: 01-2011 Posted From: 68.13.100.193 Rating: N/A |
Naadi bhi same opinion.. Nenu IBM lo work cheseppudu direct austin team tho dealing..onsite coordinator vunna just co-ordination anthe.. Reqs techkovatam. Design cheyyatam .. Coding n testing ... Naa team lo okkollu okko dynamite Cut chesthe US kochaka same to same.. Tarvatha time bad CTS lo fte n offshore lead for 8 months Team lo 5 members.. Each from different back ground with 4-5 years exp Adendu ra ante C/C++ ki resources dorakaru.. Ina adhi emundi evariki ina netpisthe nerchukuntaru anetollu Single finger tho key board operate chesetollu Chala pagili poye episodes tarvatha.. I cannot ante.. U must annaru 4-5L package lo 3-5years exp vunde vallu neeku nachina vallu vunte hire jesukoo annaru Nenu fresher ga cheribappude 5L..with 1 jump they expect 8-10L .. Inka lite anukuni Work lo 60-70% nenu chesetodini.. Oka 15-20% fresher kathi lantodu dorikithe aadiki training itcha.. Aadu super Tarvatha onsite ragane vere job choosukuni jump.. No offshore.. No junk dealing | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29720 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
true..one of the common complaints I have heard too... plus meeru dollaran dollaran..memu rupailu..so memu mee laaga enduku kashta padali etc ani ane vallanu kooda choosan | ||
| Bunty717 Moderator Username: Bunty717 Post Number: 37932 Registered: 02-2008 Rating: N/A |
nen already ade aneskunnan.. | ||
| Simhapuri_kurrodu Side Hero Username: Simhapuri_kurrodu Post Number: 5266 Registered: 07-2008 Posted From: 205.157.110.11 Rating: |
why generalize? chala pedda projs offshore ppl exceed onsite performance. most common thing ante onsite/promotion scope edi leka ala vuntaru. client nuchi pressure vundadu sametime onsite lo vachina appreciation bhi raadu | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29719 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
BTW..typo ki eggs meeda feathers peekuthunnanu anukontunnar emo.. this guy is a repeated offender..inspite of telling him to have a spell check..kontha mandi northie kurrol cannot change them | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48993 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.183 Rating: N/A |
 | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29718 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
Basically offshore lo lenidi enti ante..most of the candidates lo sense of ownership.. but that is probably because there are so many people and so little to share as responsibility anukonta..compared to onsite | ||
| Rajusk Megastar Username: Rajusk Post Number: 29717 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 170.74.55.82 Rating: N/A |
idigo ippude e-mail open sesthe dorkindi..just copy paste sesthunna oka e-mail lo nunchi....candidate ki 3.5 years experience.. "When sarching with counterparty " | ||
| Jalsa Megastar Username: Jalsa Post Number: 21197 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 69.112.152.149 Rating: N/A |
Maaku Mumbai offshore super candidates dhorikaru | ||
| Nordic Junior Artist Username: Nordic Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 66.90.101.228 Rating: N/A |
60% Gultis offshore or onsite ki vache offshore vallu itle utaru......People who worked in US for more than 5 years ki different mindset & approach untadi..... | ||
| Cool_indian Comedian Username: Cool_indian Post Number: 1555 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 157.93.242.50 Rating: N/A |
Guys in US though some of them start like that, they evolve Ee offshore batch...2-3 years nunchi work chestunna...same work ethic. Dont evolve and think differently. I work with Accenture, Wipro and Infy Buying time, doing things in the last minute, saying YES to everything, i dont care what the users what - tell me what code to change and I will change, | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48992 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.183 Rating: N/A |
babu, i too worked in offshore at the start of my career. american accent lekapoina, adigina daniki relevant answer/communication andaru icchevallu intaka mundu engineering passouts. | ||
| Buduguuu Hero Username: Buduguuu Post Number: 17841 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 47.16.90.50 Rating: |
yes yes... onshore vallu pani ela cheyyalo chepte batikestunnai offshores anta. if not for onshore, offshore is gone to dwaaags.. vishala hrudayam onshore Pride of TFI, Nenokkadine - New_User,70 years TFI history lo ee cinema ki Sukumar padda kastam, inka ye director padi undadu. Commercial success ayyunte bavundedi | ||
| Xxx Side Hero Username: Xxx Post Number: 4808 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 149.168.132.16 Rating: N/A |
they don't have the real experience that is all . - | ||
| Buduguuu Hero Username: Buduguuu Post Number: 17840 Registered: 01-2012 Posted From: 47.16.90.50 Rating: |
ikkada us lo pani chese janalaki superiors anna feeling emaina ekkuve.. deva lokam nunchi digina feeling.. laksha mandini chusanu nen ikkada onshore lo edavalani.. ento le.. ego satisfy chesukondi offshore vallu waste mana kante ani  Pride of TFI, Nenokkadine - New_User,70 years TFI history lo ee cinema ki Sukumar padda kastam, inka ye director padi undadu. Commercial success ayyunte bavundedi | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48991 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.183 Rating: N/A |
simple unix command to remve file entra ante, command mundu $ petti mari cheptunnaru..$rm is the command anta.. | ||
| Jawmetri Side Hero Username: Jawmetri Post Number: 3502 Registered: 12-2009 Posted From: 183.82.148.5 Rating: N/A |
If candidate is upto western level, he or she is offshore no more. If still offshore then it is only because of some big leadership position. You get what you pay for. (1/3rd billing rate) | ||
| Bongaram Side Hero Username: Bongaram Post Number: 8772 Registered: 04-2013 Posted From: 103.245.47.20 Rating: N/A |
US vachina Indian junta kooda chesedi adele.. basic ga 90% Indians lo passion ki career ki sambandham undadu. gorrela manda lekka andaru etu pote andulo dookutaru. so obvious ga manasoka cheta manishi oka chota la untundi | ||
| Idle_yzag Legend Username: Idle_yzag Post Number: 37722 Registered: 02-2008 Posted From: 12.130.4.244 Rating: N/A |
chinna Java position ki offshore resume adigithe 12 yrs Lead, architect resume spamputhunaru, sare ani interview chesthe thataaaaaaaaaaaa, I think whatooooo what antunaru dhenamma Mumbai offshore maku, NOrth gallu mareee chetttha JP/Chiru | ||
| Nordic Junior Artist Username: Nordic Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2014 Posted From: 66.90.101.228 Rating: N/A |
American Employers boothul dobbuthunar offshore ni..assal work ate interest ledu...They just work to survive. | ||
| Cocanada Legend Username: Cocanada Post Number: 45411 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 24.224.77.83 Rating: N/A |
those who come from Infy seem to be pretty good | ||
| Heineken Comedian Username: Heineken Post Number: 1309 Registered: 04-2009 Posted From: 12.108.117.250 Rating: |
idi go Mav annai Java, Portal lo remote working untee seppu resume mail sestha 27 EROS TFI Pride Sharabha Sharabha | ||
| Maverick Legend Username: Maverick Post Number: 48990 Registered: 01-2008 Posted From: 70.39.231.181 Rating: N/A |
I think, who have around 4-6 years experience..2008+ passouts, quality is arachakam. No communication skills, No comprehension skills. Interview lo adigedi okati vallu cheppedi okati..madhyalo ok ok anatam..More engineering colleges killed the resource pool. there may be exceptions, but intavaraku choosindi ilaage undi..interviewed 5 resources so far..all bebe |
