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Anand_n:

The stakes for both parties with this election are very high - because of its timing being before the LS election- otherwise BJP would have formed the govt in a jiffy AAP has more to lose by taking support as they chip away at the identity they have created



spot on....both don't want to risk it away so close to national elections
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Anand_n:

Ok the gauntlet's in - AAP will be contesting LS - Kejriwal made the statement - not all the 543 seats but they would like start in states they have a good presence



awesome, after Delhi, I think Bangalore is a safe bet, they should target metros and cities. LS lanti common core principles vunna local parties ni merge chesukovali. AP rathi yugam kabatti, ligth teesukovachu.

Ipc302:

a lot of parties have come to power promising clean rule , corruption free rule...after a couple of terms in power things have go back to the old ways...have to see if AAP can avoid such situation....



the only diff is the people they are recruting

Ipc302:

.is dragging delhi into another election part of AAP idealogy...suddenly BJP is acting like outside support from other people is a horribl thing



BJP should offer unconditional support to AAP ani ante, friend was saying just because I know the other person is an idealistic doc doesn't mean I will offer up my clinic for the next 5 yrs ani....I think BJP/AAP are recognizing the value of letting the other one lead, it is not easy for either of them to implement everything they promised :-)
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Anand_n:

because of its timing being before the LS election-




this whole thing is probably deciding the outcome in Delhi ..post elections..

in 4 months the country is going to spend on elections anyways..why not spend on Delhi one more time ...is the call ..looks like..this time the verdict might be clear
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Ipc302:

is dragging delhi into another election part of AAP idealogy...suddenly BJP is acting like outside support from other people is a horribl thing




The stakes for both parties with this election are very high - because of its timing being before the LS election- otherwise BJP would have formed the govt in a jiffy :-) AAP has more to lose by taking support as they chip away at the identity they have created :-)

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Anand_n:

We were discussing this at work yesterday - the value of a company is the quality of the people running it , and same with a govt. , making a start with better quality people is nothing to be scoffed at Can they cohere to make better policies that result in lower 'subsidy costs' remains to be seen




a lot of parties have come to power promising clean rule , corruption free rule...after a couple of terms in power things have go back to the old ways...have to see if AAP can avoid such situation....
BTW kicking cans down the road will result in the country kicking the bucket...already right to food bill pass chesi baaga debba vesaru next govt ki sonia and Co
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Ipc302:

cant they say the same thing about subsidies....same thing with mamata in WB...




Votes ela padatayi anukuntunnaru ? For people struggling to make ends meet , they have to see a direct benefit to their bottomline ...either a promise of a better life or a threat of losing their current luxuries ...that is reality

Desam lo tax payers enta mandi ? They are the only ones worried about the subsidies - and half of them do not make the connection of subsidies to deferred costs ..

So the easiest route for all parties is to offer sops in the short term and kick the debt can down the road ...the difference will be in how they effect policy changes after they are in power..

We were discussing this at work yesterday - the value of a company is the quality of the people running it , and same with a govt. , making a start with better quality people is nothing to be scoffed at :-) Can they cohere to make better policies that result in lower 'subsidy costs' remains to be seen :-)

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Anand_n:

The voters have been fattened on this sop junk diet, overnight ippudu salad tinandi for future benefits ante how many people will move the vote ?

Some of it has to be smart politics , not just idealism




they why idealism in only candidate selection...cant they say the same thing about subsidies....same thing with mamata in WB... she is no diff from Communists in her ruling..same subsidies, sops,free free free...dabbulu ekkada nundi vasthayi anukuntunnaru....
ippudu govt form cheyyandi ante congi support vaddu antaru...is dragging delhi into another election part of AAP idealogy...suddenly BJP is acting like outside support from other people is a horribl thing
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simple delhi lo kulagajji ledu....aap kadu bap party pettiana Southern stats lo work out avadu..
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who deserves ante eti cheptaam

congi deserves the credit.. vallu alaa rule chesiundaka pothe AAP ledu TUM ledu..

jai congi..
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Ipc302:

we have had kalam/mms/abv type of honest candidates did that bring any change in our system...no




Yeah - but they did not make a campaign out of that cleanliness. AAP will drag the records of the opponents over coals - so other parties will have to clean up their act.

Ipc302:

any subsidy/pds system has to go through the same corrupt bureaucracy...how can they bring about change without over hauling the system....



True - so cleaning out the systems may reap benefits - can they make it happen quickly enough to show results in 5 years is the problem.

Ipc302:

every party wants to give everything free for people..who will foot the bill anedi alochincharu...



The voters have been fattened on this sop junk diet, overnight ippudu salad tinandi for future benefits ante how many people will move the vote ? :-)

Some of it has to be smart politics , not just idealism :-)

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Anand_n:

Where I see the biggest benefit of AAP joining the fray is in the cleaning out of the political stables and candidates .. Jhadoo election se pehle chalega




we have had kalam/mms/abv type of honest candidates did that bring any change in our system...no
but kinda cheppinattu doling out sops/subsidies will not take us anywhere...any subsidy/pds system has to go through the same corrupt bureaucracy...how can they bring about change without over hauling the system....

every party wants to give everything free for people..who will foot the bill anedi alochincharu...
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Krishnasekhar:

they are not at all different from regular parties as far as sops are concerned.




I have read the manifestos - of AAP and BJP for Delhi, did not read Congress one :-)

And yeah you are right on that - AAP 50% power cost and water ante BJP 30% reduction in power costs and Rs.6 medical insurance annadi :-)

And actually , that is what makes me think AAP stands a chance in th eLok Sabha polls...

While the common man may not understand corruption/transparency , they will understand inflation and prices :-)

Can the poll promises be delivered, and at what cost remains to be seen :-)

Where I see the biggest benefit of AAP joining the fray is in the cleaning out of the political stables and candidates .. Jhadoo election se pehle chalega :-)

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Ok. Aap manifesto is full of sops like 50% reduction in electricity bills and 30% in water plus subsidized food etc. they are not at all different from regular parties as far as sops are concerned. Just FYI.
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I am not expecting anything - just waiting and watching :-) and hoping people in metros vote for the best candidate for their constituencies

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You are expecting 2 much. They won't get deposits outside Delhi
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Ok the gauntlet's in - AAP will be contesting LS - Kejriwal made the statement - not all the 543 seats but they would like start in states they have a good presence :-) let the fun begin :-)

He also stated Loksatta should come under the AAP banner :-)

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LOKSATTA ki banglore lo work chesamu .. last elections lo deposit kooda raledu



loksatta lite..it cudnt penetrate even in Hyderabad.....AAP set the bar so high...now ppl realise, parties like AAP can win...

LS shud be merged with AAP
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next bangalore lo try cheyyochu....delhi tarvatha antha educated/cosmopolitan city...




LOKSATTA ki banglore lo work chesamu .. last elections lo deposit kooda raledu
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next bangalore lo try cheyyochu....delhi tarvatha antha educated/cosmopolitan city...
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AP lo matuku Pavan Kalyan ni recruit sesukuntee baaguntundhii

But why will he work free sacrificing his career where he gets Rs 9cr per movie
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Ipc302:

.Cities lo AAP lanti party succeed avvali local leader undali...u cannot have AK show up in Vizag and start giving hindi bhashans.....




Very true - they have to recruit locally ...atleast now AK is a recognised face - so they have a 'brand' to work with , if Anna endorses it will embellish that brand value some more..

I am wondering if SDF ( Govindacharya's Save Democracy Front) is willing to become more active in endorsement and in bringing more people into the fold...

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Rajusk:




New Delhi is different from other urban areas...there the issue is rich vs poor rest of the cities not so easy to pentrate....Coming to Mumbai their idealism will conflict with marati manoos and if they can overcome the regionalism then they will do well...if they are seen to favor non-maharashtrians then MMS will rake up this issue....there is this mumbaikar logic....
may be banglore try seyocchu ...saaftwear kurrollu ekkuva unna city....Cities lo AAP lanti party succeed avvali local leader undali...u cannot have AK show up in Vizag and start giving hindi bhashans.....
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Anand_n:

Yes - this whole AAP story made me think of what is called "disruptive innovation " ..start small , start at the lower end , the big players are unconcerned thinking the lower market is inconsequential , till slowly the smaller players find better ways of delivering to the market at the higher end and push them over:-)




they already said..their target next is Maharashtra elections


Among the major States, Tamil Nadu is the most urbanized state with 43.9 percent of the population living in urban areas followed by Maharashtra (42.4 percent) and Gujarat (37.4 percent).In terms of absolute number of persons living in urban areas, Maharashtra leads with 41 million persons which is 14 percent of the total population of the country


so they are right on target ..although the impact might be less...because in Maharashtra ..they have to fight the two Shiv Senas, BJP, Congress, NCP..
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Rajusk:

so slowly it will pick up..




Yes - this whole AAP story made me think of what is called "disruptive innovation " ..start small , start at the lower end , the big players are unconcerned thinking the lower market is inconsequential , till slowly the smaller players find better ways of delivering to the market at the higher end and push them over:-)

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Bunty717:


metros varuku may be yes.. mixed voters, educated voters mem topulam ane tokkalo feeling vellaki



Anand_n:

Kani atleast metros lo succeed ayina manchide kada - it will change the equations for the better




almost 35% of Indias population live in Urban areas..

so slowly it will pick up..
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metros varuku may be yes.. mixed voters, educated voters mem topulam ane tokkalo feeling vellaki.. AP,UP,bihar,TN illaanti states
bongu kuda AAP ki dekkavu..




Delhi lo campaign chesinattu cheyagaligite - they may succeed - they had customised manifestos for each seat, area specific issues address chesaru ..yes it is harder to do that on a larger scale and desam lo votes are for sale -ninna ma bihari colleague cheptunnadu , family lo politicians - election gelavataniki inta amount karchu pettali ; easy ga gelavachu ani :-)

Kani atleast metros lo succeed ayina manchide kada - it will change the equations for the better:-)

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Rajusk:

ade oopulo Mumbai Municipal polls kottar ante..andarki..music ishtart avuthundi




metros varuku may be yes.. mixed voters, educated voters mem topulam ane tokkalo feeling vellaki.. AP,UP,bihar,TN illaanti states
bongu kuda AAP ki dekkavu..
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delhi lo kottadam diff vere states lo chudaam..




ade oopulo Mumbai Municipal polls kottar ante..andarki..music ishtart avuthundi
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Abhysg:

I still believe Anna Hazare is the one started rolling dice.. and finally Kejriwal took it to new level..


delhi lo kottadam diff vere states lo chudaam..

they performed well anta varuku bagundi.. AAP ki inta lepatam anavasaram

ani naa yokka adi idi..
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delhi lo mass anedi undadu only class which worked too good




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delhi lo mass anedi undadu only class which worked too good


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idantha nijame leka? just opposite wind ki evadu ani sudakunda eshara?

of course delhi lo mass anedi undadu only class which worked too good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AekjFFsznNM&feature=youtu.be

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how will it be if Sonia Gandhi proposes Aravind Kejrival as UPA canidate for PM against NDA's Narendra Modi??




Why would Kejriwal want that ? His whole platform is a clean alternative to COng and BJP .. It would be harakiri to join hands with Cong.

But if Kejriwal gets into national politics, just like BJP brough Harshavardhan in delhi, Cong may be forced to switch to Nilekani - instead of Rahulbaba:-) Not that it would make a difference - we alread saw one moun intellectual as their PM :-)

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Andhrawala:


how will it be if Sonia Gandhi proposes Aravind Kejrival as UPA canidate for PM against NDA's Narendra Modi??




He wudnt take it...ganjayi vanam lo thulasi mokka vunte emavuddi?
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Looks like Anna is now coming round to Kejriwal's side again - he has congratulated AAP and said Kejriwal should now get into national politics




how will it be if Sonia Gandhi proposes Aravind Kejrival as UPA canidate for PM against NDA's Narendra Modi??
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Looks like Anna is now coming round to Kejriwal's side again - he has congratulated AAP and said Kejriwal should now get into national politics :-)

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kejriwal .. find opportune moment and carefully used the leverage arose due to anna's anti corruption moment




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kejriwal .. find opportune moment and carefully used the leverage arose due to anna's anti corruption moment
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i still canot belive this.. nejam ga leader cinema chosi nattundi
60 years udayamam antaru kani 1972 lo SA wallu Jai Andhra ! antey vellu Nei Andhra ani SILENT GA SAMIKYANDHRA KI Jai kotaru .

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Abhysg:

I still believe Anna Hazare is the one started rolling dice.. and finally Kejriwal took it to new level..

Happy that they were able to made it.. and stood for insipiration...




Organizing Political Party is an entirely new game. We have seen this with JP.

I would give 44% credit to Kejriwal. 5% to Anna and 51% to people themselves.
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Abhysg:

I still believe Anna Hazare is the one started rolling dice.. and finally Kejriwal took it to new level..


Same opinion
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I still believe Anna Hazare is the one started rolling dice.. and finally Kejriwal took it to new level..

Happy that they were able to made it.. and stood for insipiration...
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