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Anand_n
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Jatayu:

meeku cheppe antha vadini kadu kani.




Firstly, please don't say this - unnecessary reference to perceived stature -whether positive or negative - diminishes logical reasoning!

Now coming to the rest of the post -

Yes I understand causal systems...

But I am going back to the first instantiation of the soul - before it has had time to accumulate any karma ..assuming 2 souls were born pure on earth , with no defects - should their brains have been equal and circumstances equal ?
If so , their responses should have been equal..don't you think - assuming there is a reasonable predictability to behavior.

So, I am thinking - what caused the first divergence from the path of moral/good in this theory to cause subsequent discrepancies in karma and the travails of humankind ?:-)

Unless we go with the Christian that sinfulness started with Adam giving into temptation and all humans were born sinful... I am looking for that initial variant that set the karmic cycle in motion- I am not convinced it can be the fickleness of the first brains :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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oka annai from pakka DB


You may notice below, I have deliberately used the term “Almighty God” instead of the word God.
That’s because there are many gods and I want to identify to you the only and correct one Almighty God whose accepted name in English is Jehovah (Ps 83:18) & (Ex 6:3).
His adversary is Satan the Devil who just happens to be the god and ruler of this current world. (1 John 5:19).

If you say everything is happening according to God's will ...then how can you give exceptions and say whatever bad is happening is not happening as per his will??

There are only a few specific things that are happening in accord with Almighty God’s will.
That said, He only has certain requirements to be carried out by his worshippers, and the fulfillment of his prophetic word in scripture.
In scripture its stated that Almighty God does not cause bad things or injustice to man, this is caused by his adversary and the desires of man.


If you say whatever bad is happening through our will and good by his will....then how can you say everything is happening through his will??

See above. You’re mixing the desires of men with the will of Almighty God, this is incorrect.


If you say not everything is happening through his will then it contradicts with the very definition of God

Please provide your definition of God. Does it align with scripture ?
This misconception of God is often used against Him (slanderous) for all sorts of reasons, and persades people with little knowledge of Him, to be convinced it is correct.


If you say all good and bad are happening only through his will then why should we receive a punishment for something bad that has happened through his will??

Now you are speaking of Fate or Destiny, which is not scriptural and in practise does not exist because we know this not to be true.
This is often used by man to shed any responsibility for their actions and again blame Almighty God.
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Anand_n:

Mari andariki okalanti brain ivvaledu kada God - brain ki brain ki difference, alochanalu different - good and bad ki definition different
Then how can everything be attributed to man's karma - giving the men different brains was whose decision ?



Sister.. meeku cheppe antha vadini kadu kani.. Casual systems, non casual systems gurinchi telusa??

A causal system is where the output depends on past and current inputs but not future inputs. Humans fall into this category.. where their present form depends on their karma on previous births. When I am referring to the concept of previous birth.. I took the stand of Sanatana Dharma.. if you dont believe in this concept then I cant explain.. as my basis is from Sanatana Dharma..

Now keeping Causal nature aside.. do you think that humans are machines where, if you keep two identical machines in a similar environment will yield similar results?? Human Brain is more complex and even if you keep two children born to the same mother in a similar scenarios, they will never become same.. there is nothing to do with the concept of GOD there.. he has given us the power to think and act.. our future will depend up on the way we act in a particular scenario.. I hope I made my self clear..
If you are good at something.. never do it for free..
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Diviseema:

devudankul devidankul ani saava dobbuthunte em chesthadu devudu matram. sare mee saavu meeru saavandi ani vadilesthadu.



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http://www.theunrealtimes.com/category/fikileaks/
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Jatayu:

brain ichi.. so.. it all depends on what karma you do.. if you do good karma.. you will have good results.. simple.. you get the fruits based on the seeds you sow..




Mari andariki okalanti brain ivvaledu kada God - brain ki brain ki difference, alochanalu different - good and bad ki definition different :-)
Then how can everything be attributed to man's karma - giving the men different brains was whose decision ? :-)

The foolish man seeks happiness in the distance; the wise grows it under his feet : James Oppenheim
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Kalikaalam:

Konni prrimitive tribals mida research chesthe, akkada okka rape kudaa ledu.sexual perversions assalu levu.So called civilized society lo manam chushtunnaamu kadaa??



Anduke kada bhaiyya annadi Ignorance is bliss ani.. when every thing is open for you to see and understand, it depends on individuals.. Ignorance ki GOD ki relation ledu.. hope you understood the difference..
If you are good at something.. never do it for free..
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Telugu_times:

dheeniki god endhuku? alabama endhuku? modi endhuku? jagan endhuku? cbn endhuku?



daniki kuda paina answer icha kada annai.. mind is very fragile object.. you will flourish if you know how to control it.. so ala control lo pettukoleni vallani control lo pettadaniki control unna vallu kavali.. ala ani paina cheppina vallandaru control unnavalu ani ananu kani.. in general thats the idea behind GOD/Ruler.
If you are good at something.. never do it for free..
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Gatti_gunde:

Naaku devudu unnadu ani nammuthunna vaala daggarnundi ee clarity kaavali




OK. got it. I am out now..
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ninne ee link veddaam anukunnaa...
work lo busy vundi veelu padaledu...

Must watch, in fact sefarate thed veyaali...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqc9zX04DXs

Mana Vedas cheppe nagna sathyam kooda idey...
Om Kaara naadham toh modalaina viswam anthataa sivudu-sakthi vyaapinchi vunnaaru.
"Best lesson for life - Keep Calm and deal with it, one day at a time!!!" - Charles Peckham Charlie Day, It's always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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Gatti_gunde:

so meeru anedhi devudu ledu ani kada.....




God ane vaadu(person gaa) ledu. Kaani'godliness'(yedo oka word use cheyyaali kabatti idi use chedhaamu) ane quality vuntundi.Daanini 'existance',etc yelaa piluchukonnaa parvaaledu.
Theism:'Devudu vunnaadu" ani nammuthaadu.Anthe gaani vaadi ki theliyadu.
Atheism;"Devudu ledu" ani nammuthaadu.anthe gaani vaadi ki kuda ahtliyadu.
okati positve belief .inkokati negative belief.anthe theda. nenu cheppindi yi rendu kudaa kaadu.
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Kalikaalam:

Bottomline:Everything happens all by its own.devudu ane vaadu okadu govt laaga naduputhu, mi andari accounts yemi manage cheyyadu.


so meeru anedhi devudu ledu ani kada.....Naaku devudu unnadu ani nammuthunna vaala daggarnundi ee clarity kaavali
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Cocanada:

Not in my religion


meeru cheppandi mee religion lo emi untadho
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Gatti_gunde:

If you say everything is hapening according to God's will ...then how can you give exceptions and say whatever bad is happening is not happening as per his will??

If you say whatever bad is happening through our will and good by his will....then how can you say everything is happening through his will??

If you say not everything is happening through his will then it contradicts with the very definition of God

If you say allgood and bad are happening only through his will thn why should we receive a punishment for something bad that has happened through his will??


Idhi FB lo evado pedithe ikkada peduthunnada baane adigaadu anipisthundhi




My personal openion:
God is the greatest lie invented by man.Existance got it's own balance and will take care of everything.No need for any morals.Priests, politicians bathikede religon mida. Andukani religion yeppudu live lo vunchadaaniki try chesthaaru.Example:Konni prrimitive tribals mida research chesthe, akkada okka rape kudaa ledu.sexual perversions assalu levu.So called civilized society lo manam chushtunnaamu kadaa??correct gaa ye web site anedi gurthu ledu.

Devudu, deyaym, thappu, right, swargam, narakam..antha religon create chesina vyavastha.yi rules lekapothe preits(any religon preitst ayinaa)ki bathuku theruvu vundadu.Andukani manalo 'thappu chesaamu' oka guilt creat chesi, malli daani ki solution gaa religous rituals cheyyamani instruct chesthaaru.Beautiful business..

Bottomline:Everything happens all by its own.devudu ane vaadu okadu govt laaga naduputhu, mi andari accounts yemi manage cheyyadu.
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Cocanada:

Not in my religion



what is a religion?
Do we need one?
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Gatti_gunde:


If you say not everything is happening through his will then it contradicts with the very definition of God


Not in my religion
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gisuvanti tokkalo prasnalu chala sarlu vastayi ignore chayyali ..

God anede god creation kaadu human creation picha li8 anu gagu seppadu
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Diviseema:


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devudankul devidankul ani saava dobbuthunte em chesthadu devudu matram. sare mee saavu meeru saavandi ani vadilesthadu.
Inka Maatallev, Matladukodallev. T dbers pls leave us alone
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Jatayu:

it all depends on what karma you do.. if you do good karma.. you will have good results.. simple.. you get the fruits based on the seeds you sow



dheeniki god endhuku? alabama endhuku? modi endhuku? jagan endhuku? cbn endhuku?
:-)
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first 4 lines choosi what happenned to GG anukunnaa..

5th line ki all set :D
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God is transparent...Every good and bad reflects based upon your Karma...If you pray for him, he can remove some of your karma...If you meditate, he can remove all of your kharma completely...IMO
తెలుగుదేశం పిలుస్తోంది, రా...కదలి రా..
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Asalu god powerful avuthey....inni religions ni (his competetors) prajalatho endhuku create cheyinchindu?

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enti baane adigedi.. manushulaki jantuvulaki teda pettadu devudu.. brain ichi.. so.. it all depends on what karma you do.. if you do good karma.. you will have good results.. simple.. you get the fruits based on the seeds you sow..
If you are good at something.. never do it for free..
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If you say everything is hapening according to God's will ...then how can you give exceptions and say whatever bad is happening is not happening as per his will??

If you say whatever bad is happening through our will and good by his will....then how can you say everything is happening through his will??

If you say not everything is happening through his will then it contradicts with the very definition of God

If you say allgood and bad are happening only through his will thn why should we receive a punishment for something bad that has happened through his will??


Idhi FB lo evado pedithe ikkada peduthunnada baane adigaadu anipisthundhi :D
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