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Thikka_sankara:

tedaa koduthondi... konchem maarchi wish cheyy


nenu beshuggane cheppane .. naa side nunchi ok kada .. :D
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Tilak:

haha .. enjoy while it lasts ..


tedaa koduthondi... konchem maarchi wish cheyy

1) 2004 lo bob samaikya andhra stand valla odipoyaadu not because of his performance in 2nd term

2) 2004 lo samaikya anna seemandhra lo dekha ledu.... 2009 lo separate andhra anna seemandhra lo dekha ledu... sooo seemandhra lo bob school katteyochhu
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doing great...better than i deserve


haha .. enjoy while it lasts .. :D
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Tilak:

doing good bro .. how abt u?




doing great...better than i deserve :D
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Mental_sachinodu:


doing good bro .. how abt u?
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unkl.. howwwaarrruuu
the world of appearances may or may not be real, or both may and may not be real - or may be indescribable; or may be real and indescribable, or unreal and indescribable; or in the end may be read and unreal and indescribable - its all Syadvada
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copy of the summons ..

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/54696 6_302064379933217_1653060307_n.jpg
A community that can break the country is no minority - Sardar Patel
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ok ok ok .. Soniamma court ki eltunda? lekapothe em action untundi?
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Bushu:

you can consider yourself supersmart but please dont consider others here as rahuls. everyone knows where you were coming from in all those Hitler threads. we are now in the quantity > quality territory. so, not a lot to discuss.



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I have not called anyone any names in this thread...or in any other thread - name like
baby crow, Mother Teresa follower, sickularist etc etc ani nenu evvarni pilavaledhu.....

Even earlier evvari medha ilaa personal gaa emi analedhu.....
my dear OT Maaaayya and even dearest Razesh ni thappa ;-)
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BOTTOM LINE as far I am concerned:

I did not post any Modi - Hitler comparison threads (I only created 2 threads on Hitler and others in the DB brought in Modi into that topic - maybe they wanted to create a comparison and I got out of those threads as I was least bothered about Modi)

I did not say 1984 Delhi riots are justified (I said the riots are bad, the politicians behind the riots like HKL Bhagat should be punished, they got away)

I did not say Punjabis are terrorists (I said majority of the SIKHS in Punjab in the early 80s supported Khalistan and once the movement was killed, they got back to living as Indians and those who believed in Khalistan went away to other countries - Of course it does not mean that all Sikhs who left India are believers of Khalistan)
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Bushu:




This was my reply in the thread on Hitler after some time

////Brother - Is there any relation between my posts on Hitler in this thread and your and other's posts on Indian politics, politicians etc etc????

At least I do not see any - and do not understand why people are bringing in Indian politicians and talking about hatred etc etc....and hence I am ignoring all the posts and hoping that some one who is as interested in psychology as I am comes along and starts discussing the crux of this thread
HOW CAN ONE MAN BRAINWASH A RACE AND MAKE THEM BELIEVE IN HIS EVIL?????////
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Bushu:




Even today, Vanzara thread lo respond avuthaavu - Khemka thrd aithe avvavu...
Show a single post of mine in the Vanzara thread in the first place....
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I said very clearly.....it was not about the number of terrorists...inka verbs...adjectives...prepositions loki velithe.... I cannot say anything...
I am saying again...majority of the Sikhs in Punjab at that time were supporters of the Khalistan movement.....

ante vallantha guns pattukoni thiregevaaru ani kaadhu - even though the militants were sizable....to warrant a large Army presence...

Where was Modi coming in the Hitler thread?
Who brought it...Please search this DB - use the key word Hitler.

The moment people started talking about Narendra Modi, sickularism - I got out of that thread.....I started the thread about hitler as a personality...initially there was some discussion on the topic...and when it went off it a completely tangential path...so I stopped....
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Dada:

I never said that





Dada:

I am NOT saying that everyone was a Khalistani militant / terrorist....
I said during that time - in the early 80s, majority of the SIKHS in PUNJAB were..




look at your flip flop.

your cover drives on hitler and modi are hilarious. you can consider yourself supersmart but please dont consider others here as rahuls. everyone knows where you were coming from in all those Hitler threads. we are now in the quantity > quality territory. so, not a lot to discuss.
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evariana rape chesthe - vaadini champeyaali.....
Old city lo terrorists unnaru - vallani publi lo battalu ooda dheesi kotti ,uri theeyali

These are common man reactions.....

If the common man follows up and really does these, if he gets a chance to do so - it leads to lawlessness and Anti Social elements(supported by Politicians) take control anadaaniki 1984 Delhi riots are a classic case where a lot of innocent Sikhs who had nothing to do with Khalistan were murdered later on by the Anti Social elements supported by the cong politicians like HKL Bhagat etc
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Reddit:




That is why i said - she created Bhrindanwale and she died because of her creation
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Zulu:




What is wrong in my post?

Some people in India are so angry with the Muslims...that they are bombing public places....that they people may at the slightest opportunity will attack and kill the muslims.They feel they deserve it.
That is mob mentality....

The initial attacks (before they became full fledged riots) were also due to that.

And I repeat - even those initial attacks are wrong....
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Dada:

If the place is spiritual, then why was it used as their rebellion HQ.

Is it not wrong to revolt against the country and that too use a LARGE religious place as the center of your revolt?


You should ask that question to people like Amarendra singh & Indira Gandhi who funded and encouraged them. These two were the actual traitors so why don't you call then so instead of going after pawns in this political game.
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Rioting is wrong rioting is wrong..wrong..wrong..wrong..thappu..galath but
but..kani..per

The provocation from the Sikhs was 3-4 years old....
1. Wanting to declare themselves a separate country
2. Minor incidents by celebrating the assassination of a PM...


pilli kallu moosukuni...


ashwadhamah..hathahah..kunjarahah..ante evadu vinadu anukovatam lo thappu ledhu..kani ippudu janalu vintunnaru
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Bushu:

anyone who condones or supports the targeted genocide of sikhs after IG's death is but a terrorist sympathizer.




Where DID it condone or support the genocide in the first week of November?
can you please show that to me?
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Reddit:

You attack their highest spiritual place and expect them to be rational




That is a different issue...

If the place is spiritual, then why was it used as their rebellion HQ.

Is it not wrong to revolt against the country and that too use a LARGE religious place as the center of your revolt?
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Bushu:

majority were terrorists




I never said that - and how majority of the population be terrorists....
Literal gaa word by word ki meaning choosthe ilaane untundhi....

One or two words ki meaning...whether I said majority were terrorists or majority were supporting the movement...laanti vi pattukoni - you want to provve me wrong - You are wlcome to do so...But that does not change history....

Again I am saying....if you do not want to believe about Khalistan and Operation Bluestar - you are welcome to do so....

But if some one is deliberately attributing intentions...and misinterpreting my posts - I am bound to treply some day or the other and that day happens to be today

Hitler - Modi annaru - SEARCH the ARCHIVES to prove that I even posted about modi in that thread which i created as a psychoanalysis of Hitler....

MOnna PSU banks thread kooda - raavadam - attribute some intentions...talk something loosely.....
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Dada:

Ok...even if it is in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar...doesit exonerate these people - is it not a crime to revolt against the army?


You attack their highest spiritual place and expect them to be rational? Most of them were arrested/killed/applied for asylum and they paid for letting their emotions get the better of them. Batla house encounter i jujubi compared to Opertion bluestar ayina mana entha pisukuntunnamo chusam kadha...kalla lo nillu vachayyi anta bodi munda ki
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Zulu:





Dada:

India lo nijam gaa suffer aina sikhs file chesthe meaning undhi...chesaaru - and I think a few people were punished and big ticket culprits got away.....




Where have I written that I find the rioting as FUNNY?
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Dada:

majority of the SIKHS in Punjab were supporting Khalsitan at that time




first you said, a majority were terrorists - now you say a majority were supporting khalistan.

any case, we all know that khalistan was a terrorist front. whether they ended up there rightfully or wrongfully, they did challenge the indian union. no one debates that. but the congi heavy hand both before bluestar and after indira's death are well documented. anyone who condones or supports the targeted genocide of sikhs after IG's death is but a terrorist sympathizer.
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Ok...even if it is in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar...doesit exonerate these people - is it not a crime to revolt against the army?
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Dada:


http://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/12/world/574-sikh-deserters-r eportedly-held-by-indian-forces.html

quote:

The mutineers at Ramgarh, 525 miles southeast of here, killed Brig. R. S. Puri of the Sikh Regiment Center there and fled with their arms in army trucks, private buses and cars, promising to travel to Amritsar.


AIR & BBC was running these bulletins so I wonder how you missed them
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Dada:


Dada:
rioting was wrong

Dada:
All said and done - rioting was wrong....


Dada:
I said Rioting was wrong...


inni saarlu vesina sare - rioting ni edho reason tho justify chesthunnam ani anipisthundhi ante...I CANNOT HELP IT.....


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Dada:

I just did some searching..... Commander Brig. R.S Puri was the person killed by the Sikh regiment during the revolt before Operation Bluestar....


That was after operation bluestar please do that research properly http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-11-29/ranch i/35434848_1_huge-cache-rocket-launchers-ammunition
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Zulu:




I have not said anywhere that rioting is OK..or funny....

Repeatedly atleast 5-6 times in this very thread I have said rioting was bad.....the big ticket people behind the riots have not been punished......

Please read my posts
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Dada:

all I said It is FUNNY that a group of ex-terrorists / those who supported terrorists, created havoc in a prosperous state and then fled the country are now filing a case against the riots when in fact they were the reason for the initial riots and gave a chance to the Anti Social elements to indulge in rioting....




//between Nov 1 and 4, 1984 about 30,000 members of the Sikh community "were intentionally tortured, raped and murdered by groups that were incited, organized, controlled and armed" by the ruling Congress party.//

many people in these 30,000 were innocent people on the street killed by mobs..do you find that FUNNY too Mr. Mother Theresa?


wait...they supported people who printed their own passports..that does it..thats makes it right..doesn't it?
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Dada:


If you want to deliberately misread my posts and have fun - you are welcome...




you are welcome to live in your world and assume that no one gets the intention of posts.
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I just did some searching..... Commander Brig. R.S Puri was the person killed by the Sikh regiment during the revolt before Operation Bluestar....

Please laugh for his sake....and please continue supporting the revolters because they belong to religion X and not religion Y because you are not sickular like I am
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Sonia G court ki attend avvakapothe .. what will the court do to the summons?
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Yes - I am sickular...because whether it is a Hindu or Muslim or Sikh - anyone who revolts against the Indian army, anyone who uses a place of worship to store arms and ammunition and use it as thier HQ for revolt is a criminal....whichever religion they belong to - does not matter
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If you want to deliberately misread my posts and have fun - you are welcome...

Sikh rioting was due to provocation ani nenu ekkada annanu... all I said It is FUNNY that a group of ex-terrorists / those who supported terrorists, created havoc in a prosperous state and then fled the country are now filing a case against the riots when in fact they were the reason for the initial riots and gave a chance to the Anti Social elements to indulge in rioting....
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thammudu go through my posts again...
Pls prove that I posted threads comparing Modi and Hitler.

I posted a thread on Hitler's Psychology.....and did not speak of Narendra Modi at all....in that thread.

Sikhs rioting is OK, paravelaedhu ani nenu ekkada anledhu....I have written umpteen times in this thread and the rioting was a crime....

I did not say a majority of the PEOPLE of Punjab were supporting Khalistan...
All along I said majority of the SIKHS in Punjab were supporting Khalsitan at that time
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FYI...An Indian army commander was killed by the Indian Army soldiers i.e. the Sikh regiment center revolted against the Indian Army, killed their commander and took away a huge quantity of Arms and Ammunition in early June 1984 just before the start of Operation Blue Star.

Whether you believe this or not - this is still a truth and will not change based on people's beliefs.

And if this happens in a Muslim or a Gorkha or some XYZ regiment, it is still the same crime and needs to be condemned equally.
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muslims in gujarats didnt print passports..so, thats a completely different scenario compared to sikhs who printed their passports..

yes..passports..thats the key word
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haha....Modi and Hitler ani sudhapoosa posts..cut chesthey rioting is wrong but provocation came from...kikiki..

siggu kooda siggu paduthundi..

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Please they are SICKULAR.
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haha....Modi and Hitler ani sudhapoosa posts..cut chesthey rioting is wrong but provocation came from...kikiki..

siggu kooda siggu paduthundi..
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Asalu comedy enti ante .. only ~60% of Punjabis are "Sikhs" .. so .. dont go near stats .. :D
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Visa cancel cheyyandi first


appudu court kee yelaa vasthaadhi?
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ante 51%? so around 1 cr sikh terrorists those days?




WORD by WORD meaning choose valla kosam....
majority of the Sikhs believed and supported the cause of Khalistan...... That does not mean that everyone of them was a terrorist with a gun in hand.

The exact number of terrorists i.e. "khalistan army" - was significant enough to have the Army in the state for a a quarter of an year.
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Visa cancel cheyyandi first
Modi ki oka nyayam, Sonia ki oka nyayam

between...is she travelling with italian or indian passport ?
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majority of the SIKHS in PUNJAB were...




ante 51%? so around 1 cr sikh terrorists those days? :D would India have survived that onslaught?

ainaa, ee case edho italy lo eyalsindhi.
balupu s/o gelupu
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And please do not mis quote me later - I am NOT saying that everyone was a Khalistani militant / terrorist....
I said during that time - in the early 80s, majority of the SIKHS in PUNJAB were....and once they lost badly in Operation Bluestar and the subsequent clean up - the number came down drastically..... and by 1995 it was negligible....
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3 border districts of Punjab lo matrame .. dangerous terrorism jarigindi .. rest of the Punjab was more or less very much with India .. idi nenu Gen Brar interview lo chusa .. he told .. Punjabis helped them a lot in containing the violence .. he even gave the example of a Punjabi farmer who killed his own son who turned out to be a militant .. to accuse them as being anti-nationals is to be most disrespectful to their sacrifices for the country!!!
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akkada realty less tha 10%




OK...If you want to believe that - you are free to do so - I do not want to change your beliefs....
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bomb blasts etc increased after operation blue star compared to before blue star operation




Yes..of course.....till then they were under the impression that they were getting their country...
and after June 1984 - aaripoye deepanaki veluthuru ekkuva - so bomb blasts etc etc when they realized that they are NOT getting a country of their own...
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inka cheppalante bomb blasts etc increased after operation blue star compared to before blue star operation
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meeru cheppina scene lo akkada realty less tha 10%

monna evado wasste na T leader gaadu memu UN lo case undi memu indians kaadu anna type lo certain section of people chesina and grow chesina issue with complete backing of indira gandhi just to disintegrate akalis and increase the congress presence
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I am not trying to convince you...but all I know is there was a movement for Khalistan - they even printed their own currency and passports - they were about to declare Independence and were ready to wage a war against India with the help of Pakistan....and the Golden temple was their HQ and hence the Indian Army went in started Operation Blue star

excesses may have been committed by the Indian army in the operation....

Indira Gandhi may have committed 10000000000000000000000 mistakes....

But What I am saying is - Punjab was on the verge of becoming a separate country in 1984 - breaking up from India....and till the mid/late 80s there were bombings etc in Punjab and Chandigarh which were the work of Khalistan terrorists.

And today's punjab is very very very very diffeerent with the Khalistan movement alsmost dead - excedpt for some radicals in europe and canada
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhpw5BiSfhw

time unte chuduandi meeru cheppevi ani debunk chestadu he is a local reporter and the program was aired in punjab
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Miltants or not I don't know but they are Pro_Khalistan group.


Oh .. naaku aa vishayam telidu .. but in US/Canada .. there are many victims of the riots too .. oka 3-4 years back oka few victims vachi India court lo witness testimony kuda icharu ..
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nenu meeru chesin hindu archives kaadu oka 10 episode documentary undi adi kuda chusanu from a local reporter and meeru mention chesina bbc documentary kuda chusanu

meeru iche munbers pedda tutumbers, aa 10 episode documentary lo clear ga cheptaru oopika unte chukondi

i will try to get the link and post it here, operation blue star avutunte hindus mida attacks jarugutayemo ani bayapaddaru kaani ekkada jaragaledu

ika indira gandhi chesina tappulu anni andulo untai, valla festival roju attack cheyyadam valle anta pedda human loss jaraigindi anedi kuda vaastavam
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Khalistan passports kooda print chesukunnaru....

India today special edition okati undhi 1984 lo - all these photos came int hat

http://www.google.co.in/search?q=khalistan+currency+notes&tb m=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PS8nUtzPHcnRrQeC14D4DQ&sqi= 2&ved=0CCkQsAQ&biw=1301&bih=625#q=khalistan+passport&tbm=isc h&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=cNlwqlF1rhX-EM%3A%3BqdQmP4REyXTD2M% 3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.neverforget84.com%252Fgallery%252Fa lbums%252FUnknown-Jathebandis%252FSingh-With-Khalistan-Passp ort.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.neverforget84.com%252Fgalle ry%252FUnknown-Jathebandis%252FSingh-With-Khalistan-Passport .jpg.html%3B234%3B360
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51-75 laga




I said a majority - and hence they can be 51 or 75 or some other number but more than 51....
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pakistan pakkane undi enta pani vallaki adi independent declare chesukovada




Please read my post from the Hindu -about Gen. Zia Ul haq.....and his support to these people

please also see this

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Kamal Nath's Involvement In "November 1984 Sikh Genocide"


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Kamal Nath - Senior member of Indian National Congress party.
Currently: Union Minister of Road, Transport & Highways, India
In 1984, Kamal Nath was Member Parliament (Lok Sabha) Constitutency 'Chhindwara', Madhya Pradesh.
During the "November 1984 Sikh Genocide", Kamal Nath led mob that came to the Gurdwara Rakabganj, Delhi on November 1, 1984 and instructed the police to open fire on the Gurdwara Sahib,
where a large number of Sikhs were killed.
Under instructions of Kamal Nath, Police men present at the scene instead of preventing the attack, joined the attackers and fired several rounds at the Gurudwara Sahib
Sikhs burnt alive laid in critical condition in Kamal Nath's presence and died due to lack of Medical Assistance
Police Commissioner Gautam Kaul verified Kamal Nath's presence while the Gurudwara was attacked and Sikhs were burnt alive
"I had noticed that Mr.Kamal Nath was controlling the crowd and the crowd was looking to him for directions", Senior Journalist Sanjay Suri in his statement before Nanavati Commission
"Outside the Gurdwara I saw a crowd of about 4,000 men led by Congress-I leader Kamal Nath... I saw the bodies of two men, both Sikhs, still burning on the roadside", Senior Journalist Sanjay Suri in his affidavit before Mishra Commission
"The unanswered questions about his role in the Rakabganj Gurdwara episode might well hold the key to uncovering the high-level conspiracy behind the 1984 carnage", Senior Advocate, Delhi HC, HS Phoolka & Senior Editor, Manoj Mitta
Kamal Nath's statement before the Nanavati Commission, "As a senior and responsible leader, he went to the Gurdwara after receiving information about violence there. When he arrived, he asked people why they were agitated, and also noted the presence of paramilitary personnel. He was told the mob was agitated on account of some Hindu men and women being forcibly kept inside the Gurdwara. By that time, the commissioner of police arrived. Satisfied that the police would be able to control the situation, he left after trying to persuade the crowd to disperse. He denied giving instructions to anyone to resort to firing. He also denied leading the mob or having any control over it."
Justice Nanavati â "The reply filed by Kamal Nath is vague. He has not clearly stated at what time he went there and how long he stayed. The situation at the Gurdwara become very grave at 11.30 am and continued to be grave till 3.30 pm. Evidence shows Kamal Nath was seen there at 2 pm. The Police Commissioner arrived at 3.30 pm, which means he was there for quite a long time. He has not stated whether he went to the Gurdwara alone or with other persons, or how he went there. He has not stated if he looked for the police or tried to contact policemen who were posted there to ensure the situation remained under control. He left that place after the Commissioner arrived. He has not stated that he met him. He was a senior political leader who went to the Gurdwara feeling concerned about the law and order situation, therefore it appears strange that he left abruptly without even contacting the police officers who had come there.'"



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ippudu case file chesina valla tatha appatlo gun tho tirigevadu
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51-75 laga exact numbers pls
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Enti .. ee case file chesina Sikhs for Justice gaallu .. pro-Khalistan militants aa?


Miltants or not I don't know but they are Pro_Khalistan group.
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Tehelka vallu dabbulu ichi file cheypinchina case lu kanna funny cases emaina untaya

court lo okkati kuda prove kaani allegations ni sting operations kinda esukovadam kante ghorama
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Numbers have come down significantly with the exception of Kashmir..Infact J&K lo extremimsm and terrorism have gone up from 1990 onwards.
In 1980s, One day International cricket matches were held in Sri nagar....

Punjab lo - now it is almost absent....
assam lo ULFA is nowhere near what it was in the 1980s....
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http://www.sikhsforjustice.org/

Enti .. ee case file chesina Sikhs for Justice gaallu .. pro-Khalistan militants aa?
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India lo Muslims medha riots jarigithe - and if an ex Islamic terrorist group of Kashmir, presently living in UK or some other country files a case against these riots, then I FIND it FUNNY
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a majority (can be 51% or 75%) of the Sikhs living in Punjab wanted an independent country




what are the numbers for kashmir ? where can we find numbers for bodo,naga,ulfa as well
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party ni support sesukodaniki arguement correct ani prove chesukodaniki most loyal people aina sikhs ni enni maatalu antunnara babu

nijanga 75% support unte army lo majority valle untaru, pakistan pakkane undi enta pani vallaki adi independent declare chesukovadaniki

chiranjeevi better ga argue chestadu anukunta deeni kanna telisina teliyakapoina
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Sikh terrorists are negligible.




Not in 1984....I am referring to 1984.
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I am again repating - Delhi riots medha victims etc, case file cheyyatam ni "FUNNY" ani nenu anatam ledhu...

What I said was terrorists who ran away from the country, case file cheyyatam is funny....
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Dada:




so ippudu kashmir vallani sampithe tappu ledantav ante kada?
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Dada:

rentiki chaala differnce undhi....
Muslims lo terrorists are very few...a small percentage...and scattered..So catch those terrorists and punish them....

Whereas when it comes to Sikhs, 1984 time ki - a majority (can be 51% or 75%) of the Sikhs living in Punjab wanted an independent country and every day there was bombing, shooting etc in Punjab...worse than what we see in Kashmir today.




Muslim terrorists are wide spread from Kashmir, Delhi, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Coimbatore, Ahmedabad, Mumbai allover india to USA

Sikh terrorists are negligible. so is Tamil
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Whereas when it comes to Sikhs, 1984 time ki - a majority (can be 51% or 75%) of the Sikhs living in Punjab wanted an independent country and every day there was bombing, shooting etc in Punjab...worse than what we see in Kashmir today.




anna ivi mana own numbers aa lepothe hindu archives or tehalka archives?
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exported


imported ani saduvukondi
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Hitler gaadu saana nayam ippudu unna sonia g & co ante

direct ga and open ga chesadu e donga na dashalu india ni venaku nunchi podisi samputunnaru
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//Sikhs should have taken it to UN court..rather than US. Idi correct kaadu. Vallaku justice jaragali ani naaku kooda undi.
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edi mana chacha nehru Kashmir issue ni 1948 lo teesuku kelladu
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alage veellani kooda maadi pommantava?
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Whereas when it comes to Sikhs, 1984 time ki - a majority (can be 51% or 75%) of the Sikhs living in Punjab wanted an independent country and every day there was bombing, shooting etc in Punjab...worse than what we see in Kashmir today.


akkada a percentages after 84 riot before that they wanted more water and Chandigarh back and maybe 4-5% wanted a separate country. BTW most of the Khalistan fighters/terrorists were always exported no indigenous production.
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sikhs khalistan ki support chesaru kabatti valla killing was a reaction and vallu case file cheste comedy

muslims lo kuda chala mandi terrorists unnaru kabatti godra killing was also a reaction and vallu case file cheste kuda comedy ani nenu antunnanu




rentiki chaala differnce undhi....
Muslims lo terrorists are very few...a small percentage...and scattered..So catch those terrorists and punish them....

Whereas when it comes to Sikhs, 1984 time ki - a majority (can be 51% or 75%) of the Sikhs living in Punjab wanted an independent country and every day there was bombing, shooting etc in Punjab...worse than what we see in Kashmir today.
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sikhs khalistan ki support chesaru kabatti valla killing was a reaction and vallu case file cheste comedy




evaru case file chethunnaaru...India lo nijam gaa suffer aina sikhs file chesthe meaning undhi...chesaaru - and I think a few people were punished and big ticket culprits got away.....

aaa rojullo terrorists gaa untoo, country vadhili emigrate aipoi...ippudu case file chesthunnaru....and daaniki - my reaction was to show post from a prominent Newspaper who these people are.

Operation Bluestar and the crackdown happenned in June 1984 and continued in Punjab for about 3-4 years.And a lot of those people who identified themselves with Khalistan had gone out of the country.
Riots in Delhi happenned in November 1984 for 3-4 days and most the victims continue to live to Delhi - and they suffered due to the misdeeds of some one else.
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by compulsion has to become on




Not necessary Your honour.....

BJP ante ishtam lenantha maathraana - Congress or some other party ante ishtam ani anukunte - I cannot do anything
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Dhoni century kotti India ni gelipinchina roju .. eppudo Javed Miandad kottina last ball sixer/pak win gurinchi discussion cheyyadam lo ardam unda? idi anthe ..

Bottomline - Dont lose focus. Javed Miandad gadu nache vaallu always aa route lo ne discussion ni drive chestaru .. you should understand that ..
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Dada:




mee arguements same alaane untai

sikhs khalistan ki support chesaru kabatti valla killing was a reaction and vallu case file cheste comedy

muslims lo kuda chala mandi terrorists unnaru kabatti godra killing was also a reaction and vallu case file cheste kuda comedy ani nenu antunnanu
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If the people who had burned that compartment are Terrorists and have created thier own army with thier own passports, currency, declared themselves as an Indepandant country and have tied up with Pakistan to wage a war against India and then later are filing cases against the riots...then I will find it FUNNY.




adi jarigindi punjab lo Delhi lo chanipoyina mandilo enta mandiki andulo involvement undi

same religion vallu like bhaktal and so many terrotist people did all the things you have mentioned above from bomb blasts supporting pakistan etc

so mee logic tho compare chesukuni we can say Godra cases also funny and what has happened is just a reaction
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khemka letter ki value undadu who is serving and who made allegations against their son in law

ade vanzara letter ki vacheariki full value vachestundi it will become an authenticated one




Did I even discuss about these in the first place....asalu aa relevant threads lo nenu OKKA post aina vesaana - infact FYI - I did not even read the one on that guy Vanzara or whoever and am not bothered either.
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dada is a chiru fan so by compulsion has to become one :d
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I thought some of them are killed in the crossfire .. Indian media then showed only what people wanted to see specially when in issues whcih could have triggered passions ..
They turned blind eye to killings of innocent sikhs though
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Dada anna posting same congi style n valla supportive media style untundi

khemka letter ki value undadu who is serving and who made allegations against their son in law

ade vanzara letter ki vacheariki full value vachestundi it will become an authenticated one
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Raman:

how do you know?




Because I believe the content in "The Hindu"

Whatever I have given here is from "The Hindu" archives.

And most importantly - I know the owner of Maharani restaurant in Munich who was an ex-Khalistan operative and fled India in 1984.
ofcourse - he is one of those few who regret what they did during that time.
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Tehelka archives story kuda same kaada, 58 people ni live ga burn chesina valla mida rioting jarigithe cases pettadam kuda funny ne anukunta





If the people who had burned that compartment are Terrorists and have created thier own army with thier own passports, currency, declared themselves as an Indepandant country and have tied up with Pakistan to wage a war against India and then later are filing cases against the riots...then I will find it FUNNY.
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Yes...I stand by this..... The Khalistan terrorists killed pilgrims trapped in the Golden temple and put the blame on Indian Army.


how do you know?
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Reg. the rioting , it is funny that these very same people are filing a case for "war crimes", when they killed Innocent pilgrims and put the blame on Indian Army//




Yes...I stand by this..... The Khalistan terrorists killed pilgrims trapped in the Golden temple and put the blame on Indian Army.
And these radical groups ki inkaa support undhi in Europe and Canada.

Infact in Germany - most of the Sikhs you find are the ones who left India during the early / mid Eighties.

When they themselves have resorted to such kind of crime - do they have a right to ask why so many people were killed in the riots?
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Dada:

Bhrindanwale was created by Indira Gandhi herself.....and she got killed due that movement
LTTE was also created by Indira gandhi herself...and Rajiv Gandhi got killed because of that....
one reaps what one sows




and nenu Cong supporter - HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Delhi lo chanipoyina janalu daniki support chesarani oka proof chupinchagalava






Dada:
rioting was wrong

Dada:
All said and done - rioting was wrong....


Dada:
I said Rioting was wrong...
inni saarlu vesina sare - rioting ni edho reason tho justify chesthunnam ani anipisthundhi ante...I CANNOT HELP IT.....
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it was indira who made bindranwala a hero ..
out of power she resorted to all nonsense.. first she supported bindran raked up the issue then when she came back to power used force to keep it shut ..
punjab suffered years of instability because of this..
Now congress @ work in AP
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Reg. the rioting , it is funny that these very same people are filing a case for "war crimes", when they killed Innocent pilgrims and put the blame on Indian Army//

Tehelka archives story kuda same kaada, 58 people ni live ga burn chesina valla mida rioting jarigithe cases pettadam kuda funny ne anukunta
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Dada:




Confusiom emi ledu

meeru baaga chaduvukunna vallu and telivaina vallu so you know how to present it

Godhra topic vaste Modi ela control cheyyaledu leda right wing chendina konta mandi ela champaru kind of stories from Tehelka techi vesaru

kaani Godhra train burning kosam vallu ela plan chesaru aa slum area enta notorious ani raasina articles maatram okatti kuda veyyaledu

ivala topic maare sariki direction reverse aindi

sikhs khalistan declare cheyyaboyaru adi idi ani articles vesaru, kaani shettar lanti lk gallu chesina marana homam mida meeku okka article kuda dorakaledu

I know that....people who wanted to separate from the country - medha riots jarigaayi//

Delhi lo chanipoyina janalu daniki support chesarani oka proof chupinchagalava
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Sikh lu chala affect ayina victims mana independence time lo. Appati varak vallakantoo oka political entity ga princely state undedi..vindu tulak la godavalaku veellani bali teeskonnar..gorrelni panchukonnatlu panchukonnar..partition time lo ayina godavalaku chalamandi chanipoyar..bayati deshalaku ellipoyar..appativallaku india ante kopam..kapadalekapoyindi ani..india n pak lo kalsipoyina tama rajyanni tirigi revive cheskovali ani kondaru ativadulu pedadari pattar.. ade time lo own benefit ki kondaru support chesar. Pamu ku palu poste epudo okapudu katu ki bali avvalsinde..
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mee congress family




This stereo typing is clouding your judgement...Sorry to say this...but it is true.

Tehelka / Down to earth etc chadivithe Cong supporter aaa?
Religion medha nammakam leka pothe Cong supporter aaa?

Food bill ni "Pure Bullshit" ani post chesthe Cong supporter aaa?

I can give you many instances....
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rioting is wrong, but janalu godhra train burning marchipotunnaru, modi tried his best anna vinakunda argue chesaru




I think you are getting confused between me and some one else....

Godhra incident medha in a separate thread LONG BACK I posted Tehalka content on the investigation proceedings.....and did NOT post any analysis - I just did a copy paste on the Investigation.....and people started fighting over politicians, religion instead of reading the actual content....so I stopped.

Please check all the archives with my user name or some other key word
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modi ni hitler tho compare chesi,




Please see the archive....I never compared the two.....

nenu Hitler gurinchi - from a Psychological perspective evo posts vesaanu - The thread went off in a tangential direction...and I stopped following that...


Please open the archive and check for yourself.....asalu aa thread lo Narandra modi ni endhuku theesuku vaccharu - avrau theesukuvaccharu....
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Sikhs should have taken it to UN court..rather than US. Idi correct kaadu. Vallaku justice jaragali ani naaku kooda undi.
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pagal congi gallu facebook twitter lo comments chesthe ne arrests cheyitharu, ippudu chudali em feektharo.


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ala argue chesinde meere intaku mundu modi ni hitler tho compare chesi, marchipoyinattu unnaru

appudu kuda memu rioting is wrong, but janalu godhra train burning marchipotunnaru, modi tried his best anna vinakunda argue chesaru

ivala mee congress family gurinchi vache sariki arguement konchem change chesaru
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Sikh areas roits avuthunte Police and Army Sikhs were not allowed access to weapons to do their duty forced holidays loki pampinchesaru..whole of delhi lo
Varshamaaa Agumu ninnu agnapinchedanu..Author???
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evariana rape chesthe - vaadini champeyaali.....
Old city lo terrorists unnaru - vallani publi lo battalu ooda dheesi kotti ,uri theeyali

These are common man reactions.....

If the common man follows up and really does these, if he gets a chance to do so - it leads to lawlessness and Anti Social elements(supported by Politicians) take control anadaaniki 1984 Delhi riots are a classic case where a lot of Sikhs who had nothing to do with Khalistan were murdered.
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Dada:

rioting was wrong





Dada:

All said and done - rioting was wrong....





Dada:

I said Rioting was wrong...




inni saarlu vesina sare - rioting ni edho reason tho justify chesthunnam ani anipisthundhi ante...I CANNOT HELP IT.....
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Did the Jews want a separate country from Germany at any time?
Did the Jews print their own passports , print their own currency and built an army of their own?
Did the Jews want to wage a war against Germany and stockpile arms and ammunition?

Even if the answer is YES - the annihilation of the Jews is not justified.

The Khalistanis did all of these.


1. AND YET I am NOT justifying the Delhi riots - all I am saying is - these people in Canada were once officially terrorists / militants in India (Khalistanis) and even today do not consider themselves Indians

2. I am not passing any comments on they putting a case against Sonia or any one else. I do not care a shit for that. But who are these people- in the early 1980s. What did they do? adhi choopinchaadiniki - I gave some extracts from the Hindu archive.

Rest I leave to your understanding.....
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aa range lo incidents jarigina kuda up,bihar,tn lo laga kanamarugu avvakunda inka congress akkada strong ga ela undoemo
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dada same kind of logic gujarat riots ki kuda vaadi post cheyyu

same Hitler kuda anduke ala chesadu anukoni kuda post chesi last lo yes killing jews was wrong but still jews supressed germans ani conclude cheyyu chudataniki baaguntundi
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aina .. whats past is past .. Indira G .. Rajiv G .. sangati sare .. why isnt Sonia G allowing Sajjan Kumar, HKL Bhagat, Kamalnath etc to be prosecuted?

Ghoram saami .. meda lo tyres vesi .. petrol posi .. kaalchesaru Sikhs ni Delhi lo .. in 1984 .. just bcoz .. two sikh soldiers killed Indira G ..
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mundu kelikindhi mana Indramma





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Bhrindanwale was created by Indira Gandhi herself.....and she got killed due that movement


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Bhrindanwale was created by Indira Gandhi herself.....and she got killed due that movement

LTTE was also created by Indira gandhi herself...and Rajiv Gandhi got killed because of that....


one reaps what one sows


Ejjactly, traitors to the country vella family motham and I pity the leaders who and their supporters who are dasoham to this family.
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idhi nenu antundhi kaadhu.... I copied the matter from TheHindu Archives - This was told by a Sikh leader - to a few youth to calm them down....when they wanted the Khalistan announcement to be made public and a war waged against India.

Whether he was 100% right or completely wrong - I do not care.

But it is a fact that there was a movement for Khalistan, Pakistan had supported that movement and because there was a massive build arms etc in the Golden temple, Indira Gandhi ordered the Indian Army to flush out the terrorists.
And hence she became an enemy of the Sikhs.


Pakistan etc. entered into the scene way later mundu kelikindhi mana Indramma ne to capture power in Punjab.
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And now I am understanding your posts...
If you think I am a Congress supporter - I can only pity you.....
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Bhrindanwale was created by Indira Gandhi herself.....and she got killed due that movement

LTTE was also created by Indira gandhi herself...and Rajiv Gandhi got killed because of that....


one reaps what one sows
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Asalu to counter the Akalis who were gaining political strength in Punjab .. who groomed Bhindranwale and these separatists first? history .. manaki comfortable point nunchi start avutunda?


adhe kadha convenient matter posting migathavi ignoring
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Dada:

This is a battle between Sant Bhinderanwale and Mrs. Indira Gandhi




idhi nenu antundhi kaadhu.... I copied the matter from TheHindu Archives - This was told by a Sikh leader - to a few youth to calm them down....when they wanted the Khalistan announcement to be made public and a war waged against India.

Whether he was 100% right or completely wrong - I do not care.

But it is a fact that there was a movement for Khalistan, Pakistan had supported that movement and because there was a massive build arms etc in the Golden temple, Indira Gandhi ordered the Indian Army to flush out the terrorists.
And hence she became an enemy of the Sikhs.

Reg. the rioting , it is funny that these very same people are filing a case for "war crimes", when they killed Innocent pilgrims and put the blame on Indian Army.
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The provocation from the Sikhs was 3-4 years old....
1. Wanting to declare themselves a separate country
2. Minor incidents by celebrating the assassination of a PM...

And my point of bringing up Operation Bluestar was that some people should know history and understand the consequences of certain other forgettable events in the modern history of India


History lo o page Operation Bluestar but it starts from the time when Congress wanted power in Punjab and weaken Akali Dal
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I think you do know that Dharam Yudh Morcha was the starting point for all this and this movement was launched in the hopes of acquiring a larger share of irrigation water and the return of Chandigarh to Punjab and see where it finally ended up with the deft handling of Smt. Indira Gandhi. chusthunte AP paristhithi kuda same to same chese la vunnar
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Asalu to counter the Akalis who were gaining political strength in Punjab .. who groomed Bhindranwale and these separatists first? history .. manaki comfortable point nunchi start avutunda?
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Sikh living in Moti nagar, Rajouri Garden, Punjabhi Bhag & surrounding areas are out and out traders and they never had any time for Khalistan because these people were mostly from Pakistan who lost everything. Their main concern was to make a living unlike people in Punjab so bursting of crackers might have been an isolated incident and can't really comment more because I was too small a kid to understand what was going around.


Lite teesuko .. no point arguing .. Sikhs crackers kaalcharu .. anduke riots jarigayi ani cheppadam "too humanist" anukunta .. we wont get that ..
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I said Rioting was wrong...and I even said that everyone might NOT have been a Khalistan supporter among those killed in the rioting - which I even said were for economic gain.

The provocation from the Sikhs was 3-4 years old....
1. Wanting to declare themselves a separate country
2. Minor incidents by celebrating the assassination of a PM...

And my point of bringing up Operation Bluestar was that some people should know history and understand the consequences of certain other forgettable events in the modern history of India
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Akali Dal didn't stand by them and became cohorts with Indian state and dani taruvathe KP Gill chetha chala mandhini staged killings chesaar and that was partially true too


they had to .. bcoz .. paristhithi alantidi .. and by 1983 .. admin antha GoI chetiloki vellipoyindi .. and Akali cant stand on "Human rights" of sikhs .. and aa GoI action lo .. many innocent sikhs too lost lives .. :-(

ippatike few people like that insane Arnab guy call Akalis .. "borderline separatists" .. whenever these idiots have to condemn Kashmiri Ghadi separatists ..


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some Sikhs in Delhi celebrated by bursting firecrackers...and that started the trouble ..which later became rioting looting the rich sikh families for economic gain.





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and pray - what is THAT balanced view :-)



Dada:

This is a battle between Sant Bhinderanwale and Mrs. Indira Gandhi


Ego clash as is the norm with Nehru & his dynasty
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When Rajiv Gandhi was killed you know what happened in our state. Thuggish Congressmen whom Sanjay Gandhi got into the party and later given a free rein by Indira Gandhi don't really need a reason to riot or try and intimidate people who don't fall in line with their thinking, probably these days they are a bit nuanced but they have that animalistic trait ingrained in their DNA.

Sikh living in Moti nagar, Rajouri Garden, Punjabhi Bhag & surrounding areas are out and out traders and they never had any time for Khalistan because these people were mostly from Pakistan who lost everything. Their main concern was to make a living unlike people in Punjab so bursting of crackers might have been an isolated incident and can't really comment more because I was too small a kid to understand what was going around.
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and pray - what is THAT balanced view :-)
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Yes- the rioting happenned in Delhi - It was initially targetted agaisnt the group of Sikhs who supported Khalistan..Sikhs all over the worls at that time supported Khalistan - including a few families in Vizag. One of them was my classmate in School at that time.

Today there is a big group of Sikhs in Frankfurt and Munich who still support Khalistan.

Among those dead in the rioting, obviously not everyone might have supported Khalistan
And both on 4th June when Army entered the Golden temple and on Oct 31st When Mrs. Gandhi was assinated and the rioting in delhi started, I listened to the AIR and BBC news and I also accept that you are knowledgeable.

When the news was made public of Indira gandhi's assasination on Oct 31st (first by BBC news), some Sikhs in Delhi celebrated by bursting firecrackers...and that started the trouble ..which later became rioting looting the rich sikh families for economic gain.

All said and done - rioting was wrong....
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Spamming to you - can be educational to some one else if they wish to read History.....


Convenience ni batti posting instead why don't you give a balanced view and let others decide for themselves
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I know that....people who wanted to separate from the country - medha riots jarigaayi (granted - rioting was wrong) but then the instigation came from the the radical Sikhs themselves...who for almost 2-3 years in the early eighties were boasting that they would get their own country and they along with Pakistan will defeat India.


Delhi lo vundi business chesukune sikhs medha akkada rioting jarigindhi not in Punjab and instigation was gunning down of Indira and not out of some patriotic fervour.
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allu case esindhi 84 riots medha




I know that....people who wanted to separate from the country - medha riots jarigaayi (granted - rioting was wrong) but then the instigation came from the the radical Sikhs themselves...who for almost 2-3 years in the early eighties were boasting that they would get their own country and they along with Pakistan will defeat India.

Spamming to you - can be educational to some one else if they wish to read History.....
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Spamming apu thread lo, allu case esindhi 84 riots medha but this same group also supports Khalistan movement so I'm averse to them. Aaa riots penta valle Punjab had to burn for a decade.
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Since the afternoon, the army kept asking the militants to surrender, using the public address system.

The militants were asked to send the pilgrims out of the temple premises to safety, before they started fighting the army. However, nothing happened till 7 PM.

General Brar then asked the police, if they could send emissaries inside to help get the civilians out, but the police said that anyone sent inside would be killed by the militants. They believed that the militants were keeping the pilgrims inside to stop the army from entering the temple.

Finally, around a hundred sick and old people were let out. These people informed the army that the others were not being allowed to come out.

When asked about why the army entered the temple premises just after Guru Arjan Dev's martyrdom day (when the number of devotees is much higher), General Brar said that it was just a coincidence.

The operation had to be completed in a short time, before dawn. Otherwise, exaggerated messages of army besieging the temple would have attracted mobs to the temple premises.
The army could not have fired upon these civilians.

More importantly, Pakistan would have come in the picture, declaring its support for Khalistan.
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Khalistan ani currency, passports anni thayaru chesukunnaaru....they even declared Independence from India..

Are these people martyrs?

Should the Govt. of India be tried for "War Crimes"?
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Much has been written and said about the pilgrims trapped inside the complex many of who died in the crossfire. This series documents that they were actually discouraged from responding to the announcements being made by the district administration outside asking the pilgrims to come out.

Apparently when five or six of them tried to come out with their hands in the air, they were shot down by militants from inside the temple complex. Their bodies lay near the ghanta ghar âwhere pilgrims wash their feet â on the morning of 5th June.
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In 2010 the BBC had done a one-hour documentary â1984- A Sikh storyâ, which was never shown in India.

Speaking to The Hindu, Mandeep Bajwa a consultant for the BBC documentary said,

âThis is the most authentic and credible account yet and I can see that the passage of time has emboldened many eyewitnesses to speak the truth. It exposes many fallacies like the one about arms and ammunition being planted in the temple complex by the Army.

Mr. Sandhu has not only provided a rough inventory of the military hardware stockpiled inside but also detailed some instances of how they were smuggled in.â
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Mr. Ramoowalia also sheds light on an alleged execution of some 30 Sikh youth by the army â the certainty of which has always been speculated.

Talking about events in the wee hours of 6th June, when the army was combing through the complex, the narrative states that a Major of the 9 Kumaon regiment lined up some 20 Sikh youth and mowed them down with a machine gun.

Recalling the incident, Mr. Ramoowalia says, -The captured Sikhs appeared to be from Kashmir and didn't look like Punjabi Sikhs.

An officer waved a handkerchief and they were shot dead by the Army men with bullets which were sprayed on them from left to right and then right to left.
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denemma comedy .. Bluestar ki evaru responsible? Congress ee ga .. Sukhbir gadi meeda case enti?


Akali Dal didn't stand by them and became cohorts with Indian state and dani taruvathe KP Gill chetha chala mandhini staged killings chesaar and that was partially true too
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ABOUT OPERATIOn BLUESTAR:

Perhaps the most significant disclosures are by Balwant Singh Ramoowalia, a former Union Minister for Social Welfare, then with the Shiromani Akali Dal, who was present in the Guru Ram Das Sarai along with then Akali Dal president Harchand Singh Longowal and SGPC president Gurcharan Singh Tohra.

He relates how at around 6 p.m. on 5th June, Mr. Longowal and Mr. Tohra were coerced almost at gunpoint to declare the formation of Khalistan and how they wriggled out of it.

Five Sikh youth with self-loading rifles (SLRs) and a metallic box that was possibly a transmitter came to us and placed their SLRs with their barrels pointing towards all of us.
They told us that the âboxâ is connected with Gen Zia-Ul-Haq in Pakistan.

They told Jathedar Tohra and Sant Longowal to declare the formation of Khalistan, so that the Pakistani Army can launch an attack on India.

Both Tohra and Longowal are not alive today, so I am saying this under a solemn oath of allegiance to the tenth Sikh Guru, Guru Gobind Singh, because I want to speak the truth.

Sant Longowal kept completely quiet. Then Jathedar Tohra said, âDekho naujawano, eh jedi jang hai eh Hind-Punjab di jang hai. This is a battle between Sant Bhinderanwale and Mrs. Indira Gandhi and that since the former is leading the battle, it will be fair to ask him to issue the statement about the creation of Khalistan.â

He did not say that he will make the announcement for Khalistan. I donât know how history will judge the Akali leadership but this is the truth. The youth then left the place and never came back.â
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Bluestar affudu terrorists ni ossa kottudu is war crime for them so please don't encourage Khalistan supporting groups.


denemma comedy .. Bluestar ki evaru responsible? Congress ee ga .. Sukhbir gadi meeda case enti?
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yeah .. case file chesinodu item laage kanipistunnadu naaku kaani .. which "war crimes" are those ppl referring to? naaku ardam kaaledu ..


Bluestar affudu terrorists ni ossa kottudu is war crime for them so please don't encourage Khalistan supporting groups. Delusional bunch antha Canada lo settled so let them be.
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Holding Sukhbir Badal and the Punjab police chief Sumedh Singh Saini responsible for "war crimes and crimes against humanity", American Sikh groups through an NGO Canadian Sikh Coalition had tried to file a case against Sukhbir Badal in a Canadian court.


yeah .. case file chesinodu item laage kanipistunnadu naaku kaani .. which "war crimes" are those ppl referring to? naaku ardam kaaledu ..
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intaki .. Soniamma meeda comment seyyaledu ga ee thed lo nuvvu ..


http://www.sikhsiyasat.net/2013/08/23/fearing-litigation-pun jab-dy-cm-sukhbir-badal-cancels-visit-to-canada/ item saale gallu and please these are not your patriotic Sikhs so
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BJP-Akali Dal are no better le


how sir?
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Ayina UPA chesthe Amit Shah & NaMo medha padaddu enti


bail ki helping cheyyatledani ..

intaki .. Soniamma meeda comment seyyaledu ga ee thed lo nuvvu .. :-(
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Madam garu .. patriot sikhs ni oochakotha kosina vallani save chesindi .. horrible traitor I tell you ..


BJP-Akali Dal are no better le
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Vanzara ni desa seva chesinanduku papam 6 years jail lo uncharu .. adi mana UPA witch hunt bahumaanam for people serving the country .. frustrate ayyi letter rasadu .. tappu ledu ..


Allu guruji ni arrest chesaar ani kadha letter rasindhi? Ayina UPA chesthe Amit Shah & NaMo medha padaddu enti
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DG Vanzara letter medha thread kuda eyyi mari


Vanzara ni desa seva chesinanduku papam 6 years jail lo uncharu .. adi mana UPA witch hunt bahumaanam for people serving the country .. frustrate ayyi letter rasadu .. tappu ledu ..

Madam garu .. patriot sikhs ni oochakotha kosina vallani save chesindi .. horrible traitor I tell you ..
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What a shame to call her "secular" ..


DG Vanzara letter medha thread kuda eyyi mari
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On a side note .. US courts lo mana national matters/cases settle chesukovadam nasty .. kaani Sonia/Congress were the first to play the game .. now this is only fair ..
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Sonia will soon become 'Mother of the Nation' for India
Hardcore Prabhas raju fan
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On a complaint by a Sikh group, a US federal court has issued summons against Congress party president Sonia Gandhi for shielding party officials allegedly involved in inciting attacks on Sikhs in November 1984, an attorney said.

In a class action suit filed Tuesday before the district court of Eastern District of New York, "Sikhs For Justice" (SFJ), a US-based human rights group, and other victims of the November 1984 anti-Sikh violence have sought compensatory and punitive damages against Gandhi.

According to SFJ attorney Gurpatwant S. Pannun, under federal rules, it has 120 days to serve the summons and complaint on Gandhi who is currently visiting the US for medical check-up.

The suit under Alien Tort Claims Act (ATCA) and Torture Victim Protection Act (TVPA) accuses Gandhi of shielding and protecting Kamal Nath, Sajjan Kumar, Jagdish Tytler and other Congress party leaders from being prosecuted for their alleged role in the 1984 violence.

The 27-page complaint against Gandhi alleges that between Nov 1 and 4, 1984 about 30,000 members of the Sikh community "were intentionally tortured, raped and murdered by groups that were incited, organized, controlled and armed" by the ruling Congress party.




http://newindianexpress.com/nation/US-court-summons-Sonia-Ga ndhi/2013/09/04/article1767534.ece

What a shame to call her "secular" ..
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