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Raman
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too much fire n no coherence... desam vacchessa kada ani overindulgence aa ? okka mukka ponthana ledu ?


naa bondale guru ..Emi content expect chesavu? Indian leaders collectively failed ante ippatidaka congress party ne kada? ade naa bottom-line..
asla Nehru pm kadam mana desaniki pattina beep beep beep ani naayokka opinion
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Raman:

anyways the truth is nehru failed and in fact all of Indian politicians failed collectively...
Indian public failed to elect right people.. no one had a clear vision .. except indira gandhi to an extent ..
no one cared about infra structure .. every one want to become messiahs of masses, hence popular schemes and socialist themes .. India is licked forever ..


too much fire n no coherence... desam vacchessa kada ani overindulgence aa ? okka mukka ponthana ledu ?
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I have read hundreds of Ram Guha's articles and have also read his books on cricket and also India After Gandhi...i like his writings...but have enough knowledge of his body of work to judge that he is an apologist for the Nehru family...he lots of Nehru and Indira rather easily...
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ok, sodara ! aa interview lo konni points... manamiddaram agree cheyochhu ! konni debatable ! edi edi... tarwatha chuddam... kaani mundu, ala anukoni mundukeldama ?
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anyways the truth is nehru failed and in fact all of Indian politicians failed collectively...
Indian public failed to elect right people.. no one had a clear vision .. except indira gandhi to an extent ..
no one cared about infra structure .. every one want to become messiahs of masses, hence popular schemes and socialist themes .. India is licked forever ..
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Ippudu NTR sangathi enduku, matter adhi kadhu kadha...topic divert enduku


arre... neeku yee thread n topic gurinchi bale idea undi guru... nuvve kada guru, edo chillara logic chupinchi... junk lo padesan annav... malli topic divert enti ? divert yevaru chesaaru ? asala junk lo neeku panenti saami ?
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pure pearl and nectar..




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pada prayogam catchy ga vundi..meaning ento..


pure pearl and nectar...
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kaneesam poga kuda ledu kada




Poga kuda ledu..mallee punch, punch meedha punch...Robert Vadra maloom...poora Gurgaon ni dochukunnaru over the last 10 years...

Ippudu NTR sangathi enduku, matter adhi kadhu kadha...topic divert enduku


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telangana announcement tarvata she stands before mother teresa ani na yokka peeling..




Italy connection undhi ga, thvaralo canonisation aipoddhi..
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puluperagani mutyam puvvu meeda puppodi




pada prayogam catchy ga vundi..meaning ento.. :D
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Nuvvu flow lo vellipo...mother Teresa tharavatha Sonia Gandhi ne...


ala ani yevadu annadehe ? cheppalemu... edaina possible... kaneesam poga kuda ledu kada ?

neeku thelusa? ntr corruption meeda court case lu nadichaayi ! yee rojuna daivam... puluperagani mutyam puvvu meeda puppodi ! edanna matter unte cheppu !
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mother Teresa tharavatha Sonia Gandhi ne...




telangana announcement tarvata she stands before mother teresa ani na yokka peeling..
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Nuvvu flow lo vellipo...mother Teresa tharavatha Sonia Gandhi ne...
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Ee okka line chalu, interview moththam junk cheyataniki...Sonia Gandhi corrupt kadu anta...vori veedi yaasaloi...janalu maree antha yedavalla kanapadthonnara


lol... yenno vishyalu discuss chesaadu... avanni vodilesi ikkado chillara natakam ! ntr chillaraki egabaddau ante kinda meeda ayyavollu kurrollu ikkada ! yevadu nammala... edaina possible... kaani kaneesam poga kuda ledu kada ? edo blind gaa believe chesi, junk lo padesi... thrupti chendatamena ?
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Even if Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh are not corrupt,




Ee okka line chalu, interview moththam junk cheyataniki...Sonia Gandhi corrupt kadu anta...vori veedi yaasaloi...janalu maree antha yedavalla kanapadthonnara
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There are two major charges against the Congress. One, corruption. Another is sometimes the party adopts soft-Hindutva, sometimes Muslim-appeasement. Do you think these charges stick?

Of course! These are the serious charges. The top leadership of Congress has turned a blind eye to corruption. Even if Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh are not corrupt, how much corruption goes on through their ministers and through their allies?

It is well known that most ministers in the central government are corrupt. The charge of corruption against the Congress is valid. Corruption is one of the reasons holding back our economic growth.

Due to corruption access to the social services to the poorer sections is denied or hampered. Talking about the second charge (of soft-Hindutva and Muslim appeasement) particularly, Rajiv Gandhi was guilty of it. In the 1980s, he was found of pandering to fanatics of both religions.

First he overturned the Shah Bano judgment and then, he opened the locks in Ayodhya. We are still paying for it.

Now, fortunately, it seems that communal polarisation is on the decline. People are realising that Hindu-Muslim violence is in nobody's interest. But for 20 years the country had to pay for those two costly mistakes of Rajiv Gandhi.

A BJP leader once told me that Indians endure the corruption of Congressmen because it is the tax you pay for buying the Congress view of secularism. The minorities have no other alternative because they think the Congress is secular.

I disagree. Corruption is a human weakness.
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a few excerpts...


How would you assess Jawaharlal Nehru's legacy as prime minister?

In Nehru's case his balance-sheet as prime minister is certainly very positive. He nurtured a democratic India. He promoted a plural ethos and the reform of Hindu personal laws giving equal rights to women. These are great things.

He had two weaknesses, I would say. Not the China war... That was inevitable. India and China were two countries emerging out of colonialism. They were both trying to find their core character and conflict was inevitable.

One of his major weaknesses was institutional. Nehru neglected primary education. He had great fascination for higher education, IITs, IIMs, nuclear physics, etc. If he had focused on primary education, then I think many of the problems that we see today such as unemployment, violence in young men, caste conflicts would have been much less intense.

That was his major institutional failure. Then there was a personal failure. In retrospect, I think, he should have retired in 1958. He thought about it. He went to Kashmir for three weeks. The process of transition of power would have been complete in his lifetime.

Mahatma Gandhi nurtured younger leaders such as Sardar (Vallabhbhai) Patel, Nehru, Rajaji (C Rajagopalachari), and others. Nehru could have likewise mentored younger leaders.

We don't know why he didn't retire in 1958. People may have told him that he was indispensable.


In the course of debate, some Congress leaders ridicule lots of characteristics of India.

That's not true. The danger in your comment -- that idea that there was greatness in Indian or Hindu civilisation is like that the Ganga it is immortal, pure and beautiful. Like the Ganga that is polluted from source to sea, Hindu civilisation was polluted. Hindu civilisation practised the most degrading form of social behaviour called untouchability.

Hindu civilisation oppressed its women. In Hindu civilisation there was division of manual labour and mental labour.

The greatness of Gandhi, Nehru and Rabindranath Tagore was that they became critics of their culture. I would rephrase your question and say that as Hindus we were fortunate to have reformers like Gandhi, Ambedkar, Nehru and so on. They pointed to the weaknesses and fault-lines within Hindu culture and civilisation.

By the way, more Hindus vote for the Congress than the BJP so, obviously, they find something attractive in the Congress.


Do you think in the coming decades the BJP will form a national challenge to the Congress?

I don't think so. It has fallen back to the RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh). I think it's possible that in 20 or 30 years time we may see a new political formation. It is possible a middle-class formation which is not captive of one family or one religion or one caste may emerge.

The BJP had a great chance to become a national party, but it has lost it. During Atal Bihari Vajpayee's time, even at the time of the last election they had a chance to grow, but they always go back to the RSS.

When the Jaswant Singh crisis happened, (former deputy prime minister and then Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha) L K Advani went to see (RSS chief) Mohan Bhagwat who is head of a social-cultural organisation.

Who will trust the BJP as a young and modern party?


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2010 interview, but still relevant !

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-rahul-gan dhi-is-not-particularly-intelligent/20100511.htm#5

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